Multi-billionaire Donald Trump has announced that he is suing comedian Rosie O’Donnell. As reported by Access Hollywood (video about their ongoing feud available here, as well as here courtesy of our friend at Ms Underestimated, emphasis mine throughout):
Earlier this afternoon Trump announced he is filing suit against the TV talk show host. "She says things that come to her mouth, she's not smart, she's crude, she's ignorant and to be honest I look forward to suing Rosie," he told our cameras. "I'm gonna sue her and I look forward to it. She's really very dangerous for the show."
Trump declined to elaborate on the details of his proposed legal filings, but added O'Donnell will understand his reasoning. "Rosie will find out what we're suing her for. She knows what we're suing her for," he said adding the lawsuit is already in the works. "It's something I look very forward to," he added.
The article continued with some marvelous mudslinging that makes one wonder whether or not Rosie threw chewing gum at Donald during gym class:
Earlier today, Rosie attacked Trump, branding him a "snake-oil salesman" and calling his staging of a press conference, in which he decided to allow Miss USA, Tara Conner to keep her crown a publicity stunt. Trump allowed Conner to keep her title Tuesday following a wave of reports and criticism over her engagement in underage drinking.
"Because his show ‘The Apprentice' is starting again in January, he held a big press conference to see if he was going to allow Miss USA, such a prestigious title," Rosie said on "The View" while rolling her eyes. "It's basically a model competition . . . They have one question in Miss USA, yeah and they're like ‘I'd like to cure cancer and end world hunger – and then I'd like to go to Studio 54 and do some crack.'"
Rosie continued her rant lashing out at Donald Trump's decision to give Tara Conner a second chance. "There he is, hair looping, going everyone, everyone deserves a second chance," she began. "He's the moral authority? Left the first wife, had an affair, left the second wife, had an affair, had kids both times, but he's the moral compass for twenty year olds in America. Donald, sit and spin, my friend."
She also said she expected him to sue her but added "he'll probably be bankrupt by that time so I won't have to worry."
Isn’t this great? Trump fired back:
In turn, Trump, who became aware of the Rosie comments earlier this morning, branded her "a loser." "Rosie's been a loser for a long time," he told Access. Her magazine failed, she got sued. She folded up like a tent."
He also sent a stern warning over O'Donnell's outburst and suggested she watch her partner.
"Rosie is somebody out of control who really just doesn't have it and she ought to be careful because I'll send one of my friends to pick up her girlfriend and I think it would be very easy," he said.
You gotta love it.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
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YIKES...of course Trump's pre
December 21, 2006 - 00:05 ET by balboaYIKES...of course Trump's press conference was a P.R. stunt, but then...why not? He gets exposure for Trump, The Apprentice, and the floundering Miss USA pageant. And he is kind of the moral authority for Miss USA because...it's his pageant.
Rosie's high horse is KILLING me.
Rosie's lack of tact
December 21, 2006 - 09:19 ET by Amanda JusticeI thought it was EXTREMELY low class to bring in the death of the Donald's father as a benefit to him. And the Donald was right - that garbage came out of a very unattractive mouth.
No!
December 21, 2006 - 12:40 ET by cvgbuckeyeLet me get this straight Amanda; to say that was low class would imply that Rawsie has, at some time in her life, done something that was high class, medium class or even neutral. Further, for her to conduct herself any other way would be like putting a formal dress on a pig or whipped cream on a turd or cologne on a billy goat or a cherry on top of a pile of vomit or;;;;;;;;;;;well, where do you stop??????
Awesome...alls I can say is Y
December 21, 2006 - 11:21 ET by TruthMongerAwesome...alls I can say is Y-U-M-M-Y! I could listen to the Donald talk like this all year long...!!!
Just like Air America...I will miss Rosie...she makes the left look oh so unbelievably and incredibly awefully bad : ) !
Here is the flaw in Rosie
December 23, 2006 - 03:29 ET by Conservative VoiceHere is the flaw in Rosie's argument, you do not need to have a "moral authority" to forgive someone who has wronged you. You can be the biggest goof on the planet, and not be a hypocrite for forgiving someone.
The fact is his issues do not matter, Miss USA broke the rules, it is in his authority to fire or risk keeping her. Even if it is all a PR Stunt. Rosie is just jealous and has no class.
Trump
December 21, 2006 - 00:22 ET by Sugar LandThis is an early Christmas present. I've always thought "The Donald" was a bit of an airbag. But I've always LOATHED Rosie. Oh my God, his high-school-like smack down is the funniest thing I've seen in years. The rotund Rosie has apparently struck a nerve with Trumpeepoo (his skin is sooooo thin) and this is gonna be fun.
Noel, I have been laughing so
December 21, 2006 - 00:28 ET by bigtimerNoel,
I have been laughing so hard I have had to literally wait to post this! This is too delicious let alone going to be fun to watch...two egomaniacs going at it, and my money is on Trump!
Although, dang I hate to admit it, because I detest Rosie, she made some really good points in her spiel.....
When it comes right down to it.... this is just....well...... Priceless!
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland
Ta Ta Loud Mouth
December 21, 2006 - 00:30 ET by BlondeWell, I knew Rosie was obnoxious.
Now I know she's delusional.
She also said she expected him to sue her but added "he'll probably be bankrupt by that time so I won't have to worry."
As if.
I can't stand Donald (Sucking on a Lemon Faced) Trump, but I may have to rethink that, if he's planning on taking down the loud mouthed O'Donnell.
Blonde..You are much too nice
December 21, 2006 - 01:01 ET by ww thumperBlonde..You are much too nice to her :-) I read the story and watched the Trump vidio and about fell off my chair laughing :-) This is going to be sooo much funnn! :-) I am just grinning eye to eye ... (Imagine That!) I am shuch a bratt , I should be ashamed ...but I'm not :^} ww ...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS :-) WW
The last time Rosie was sued,
December 21, 2006 - 00:40 ET by GothampcThe last time Rosie was sued, she said "Liars get cancer". I wonder what new pearls of wisdom will drop from her lips this time?
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Wasn't he actually bankrupt i
December 21, 2006 - 00:47 ET by balboaWasn't he actually bankrupt in the '90s? I seem to recall that. Not that it meant anything. He's still a kabillionaire.
Bal,I think he may have FILED
December 22, 2006 - 08:02 ET by Indiana JoeBal,
I think he may have FILED for bankruptcy, or was at least talking about it. How it turned out, I have no idea. I think it may have been more a "corporate thing" than a PERSONAL filing.
But you're right, he's definitely NOT bankrupt NOW.
Gotham....She will make a maj
December 21, 2006 - 00:47 ET by bigtimerGotham....
She will make a major news annoucement that she has cancer!
Btw....love your tagline there! LMAO!
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland
if only
December 21, 2006 - 14:06 ET by RackieROD will announce that she IS a cancer.
Rosie said "liars get ca
December 21, 2006 - 13:01 ET by MikeBRosie said "liars get cancer?" Rosie has cancer? And she didn't inform the "news"media? Where is the outrage on the part of Katie and Dan and Brian, et al?
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
You know, I never liked Don
December 21, 2006 - 00:47 ET by Jinx McHueYou know, I never liked Donald Trump.
Until now.
Give her hell, Donny!!!
Publicity Stunt
December 21, 2006 - 01:05 ET by misterbillIt is a publicity stunt. Before they go to trial they are going to elope.
Doesn't Trump know that the f
December 21, 2006 - 01:05 ET by TEDoesn't Trump know that the fools of the U.S. press corps call the vile O'Donnell: "the queen of nice"?
Jeeze Rosie - l
December 21, 2006 - 01:22 ET by Dee BunkJeeze Rosie - lay off The Donald - I don’t care for him
either - but he’s someone’s father and he didn’t blow anyone up.
I say, let 'em knock each oth
December 21, 2006 - 01:24 ET byI say, let 'em knock each other out. Oh my gosh, I am laughing over here. Honestly, I am no fan of Rosie--but at least she does not pretend to be smart and then turn around and behave like a child, pitching a fit. Oh dear.
Fact is Trump has no right to say a thing about the way a 21 year old girl behaves, all things considered. But, then again, Rosie does not have any room to say anything against Trump, all things considered. Oh dear.
And both could use a new hairdo!
Well, clearly, one is more foolish than the other. But, I won't say which one that is, 'cause he may sue me.
Debra... -of: www.InformingChristians.com
Actually, he has a say becaus
December 21, 2006 - 02:27 ET by balboaActually, he has a say because it's his pageant, and the rules of being Miss USA stipulate certain things.
balboa...Mr Trump does ha
December 21, 2006 - 02:41 ET by ww thumperbalboa...Mr Trump does have a say about her conduct according to the rules of the contest. She was not 21 yrs old when she started drinking and drugging . That violated the rules of the Miss USA contract. ...MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL, GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS :-) WW
Such reasoning sounds like th
December 21, 2006 - 02:56 ET byRe: "Actually, he has a say because it's his pageant, and the rules of being Miss USA stipulate certain things."---------------------------------Such reasoning sounds like the child who brought the base-ball. Because he brought the ball, he did not have to play fair.---So one can buy the rights to be a hypocrite? If he were sorry for what he did, that would be different--we all make mistakes in life. But I don't see where he has corrected his publicly displayed wrongs.
I'm agreeing with balboa?!?!?!?! What next?
December 21, 2006 - 13:24 ET by Timothy HI'm agreeing with balboa?!?!?!?! What next?
Debra, I gotta say that your argument misses the point. The Donald has some say in how this woman acts, (and she just turned 21, and was not 21 at the time of the allegations) and that is not because he brought the ball, but because he OWNS the TEAM!!!! He is the boss, and just as with any other employee/employer relationship, the employer makes the calls, not the employee.
As for Donald's wrongs, he has not propped himself up to be a moral role model, but not only does Miss USA present herself as such, but signs a contract, a legally binding contract I might add, to uphold a level of morallity until her reign is over. This is why this is "The Donald" has every right and responsibility to oversee this. It is business. This whole incident is going to cost the Miss USA/Miss Teen USA pageants, and already has MADD speaking out against the Miss Teen USA. Trump has a responsibility both to the public and to his stockholders to run damage control. To say that he shouldn't based on his own past is silly.
Simply put, Trump presents himself as a businessman and nothing more, Miss USA and Miss Teen USA present themselves as virtuous role models for young girls everywhere, and signed contracts to uphold that (Trump has never signed any such contract). This is not hypocracy, this is business To say different is to say that the owner of a doctor's office, who is not a doctor himself, and who has on occation not helped those that he could have, has no say when one of the doctors at his office breaks the hypocratic oath.
I still can't believe I sided with Bal [jk buddy ;-)]
- Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints -
He doesn't just own the team.
December 21, 2006 - 15:31 ET by Hero SquadHe doesn't just own the team. HE OWNS THE WHOLE DANG LEAGUE!
Here's what doesn't make sense about Rosie's argument: Had Trump summarily dismissed Miss USA for actions unbecoming of the crown she bears, Rosie would've been OK with Trump passing such judgement upon her?
I have a sneaking suspicion that had Trump dismissed her, Rosie would've slammed him for being a hypocrite for not giving her a second chance when he has not been a moral compass himself.
She just waited for him to make a decision, and twisted it to whichever way she could to express her hatred toward Trump.
This is fun.
*****
I can't believe Time named O.J. Simpson one of its People of the Year.
Donald Trump is pitching a fi
December 22, 2006 - 03:02 ET byDonald Trump is pitching a fit because someone spoke bad about him. Please don't get me wrong, I cannot stand what Rosie does either. But that does not right Donald Trump's behavior. There is no fear of the pageant going down the drain because some kid, messes up. The pageant went down the drain when Trump took it over--in my book. He thinks he can buy respect? He is a prisoner of his own pride. Many things that are not against the law, are still wrong and are still hurting our nation. A man flaunting his indiscretions, hurts those who see it.
Well, I was going to defend T
December 22, 2006 - 08:14 ET by Indiana JoeWell, I was going to defend Trump's right to manage his business, and make contestants adhere to the contract they signed. But you seem to have changed gears, and just seem to not like Trump. Personal likes and dislikes are not something that can really be argued, so I won't bother.
My original thought was, though, remember Vanessa Williams? She LOST the Miss America crown for violations of their rules. So, in this case, DT was a bit more magnanimous and understanding than the MA people, was he not?
And Trump was attacked publicly on national TV. If he thinks he has the basis for a lawsuit for slander (or libel, I always confuse those two) let him go for it. I agree with others here that it will be great fun to watch these two chuckle-heads have at each other....
Hey Moral equivalence crowd
December 21, 2006 - 01:52 ET by liberal_bug_zapperHey Moral equivalence crowd, I have news for you. Donald Trump has every right to say whether or not Miss USA deserves a second chance or whether or not she failed. She signed a contract which states that she may not partake in the things she was partaking in.
Anyone who says, "So-and-so has no moral standing to criticize based on....<name your vice>" sounds like a Liberal to me.
You should be careful how you throw about such claims. I've never had a loved one of mine killed, nor have I had a loved one of mine commit murder, but I can still stand up and say I support or I don't support the death penalty. I don't by the way... I support something way worse. But that's another story.
However, my point is that you lose any argument you try and disqualify your opponent on because of what they've done in the past. This is making use of the logical fallacy 'Genetic Fallacy'. Look it up, it may help you to not make fallacious arguments in the future.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
If his behavior was truly in
December 21, 2006 - 02:23 ET byIf his behavior was truly in the past, I would agree with you. However, just a matter of a few years ago, he was living with a woman outside of marriage--the last one he married. He was a father of three grown children and behaving that way. And he did so publicly for all to see. Because he did so publicly for all to see, he should at the very least admit that his own indiscretions were wrong. I am not saying that one should make public acknowledgements of remorse for indiscretions on the norm. However, when one flaunts his indiscretions in public in a way that says it was okay to do so--then one should publicly show remorse for such, if he is truly sorry. If he does not, then he looks the huge hypocrite, if he seeks to correct someone else.
__ "Error is a stranger to no man. Courage to correct errors, visits only a few." DJMS 2006 Debra...
"However, just a matte
December 21, 2006 - 02:41 ET by ckc1227"However, just a matter of a few years ago, he was living with a woman outside of marriage--the last one he married. He was a father of three grown children and behaving that way.And he did so publicly for all to see. Because he did so publicly for all to see, he should at the very least admit that his own indiscretions were wrong."
Admit he was wrong for what, not living his life according to your rules? Last I checked, none of those are against the law; underage drinking and cocaine abuse are.
Well, clearly, one is more foolish than the other. But, I won't say which one that is, 'cause he may sue me.
Naaaa, Rosie wouldn't sue you, she'd just eat you.
Okay, that's not fair. Just w
December 21, 2006 - 03:02 ET byOkay, that's not fair. Just when I thought you were a real stinker, you make me laugh. .... DJMS
Deb darlin', just one probl
December 21, 2006 - 03:36 ET by liberal_bug_zapperDeb darlin', just one problem with that logic. The last time I checked. Getting married and divorced is not against the law. Underage Drinking is. Even cheating on one's spouse is not against the law.
I've been divorced and re-married.... I don't see it as a transgression.... I grew to really hate my ex... and needed to have a break from her.... a forever break.
However, I'll never apologize for divorcing my wife.... and even if I had an affair... which I didn't, but even if I did.... I wouldn't apologize. I'm not that snarky.
Apologies are for people who are not honest. Apologies are for the weak. You either mean what you say and do or you don't. I always mean it... and I never apologize. Oh, and never apologize for a mistake. Because if it was really a mistake, you didn't mean to do it anyway, so an apology send the wrong message.
I'm sorry if that bothers you.... AH HA....gottcha
All of that aside, Miss USA is a public representative for the company who is expected to uphold certain standards of ethical and moral behavior. Trump is the owner and is under no such obligation. While he represents the company, he also makes the rules and he also makes himself above those rules. Companies are not democratic, they are dictatorial. Public companies are more democratic, but still, those who own the most shares, own the vote. Trump's votes are more than anyone else’s and therefore, he gets to make the rules any way he wants.
It's not hypocritical...he's the King and can do anything he wants.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
Apologies
December 21, 2006 - 04:29 ET by BlondeLBZ,
I'm with you all the way here.
Say what you mean, and mean what you say.
However, there is an instance in which an apology is warranted.....when one unintentionally hurts an innocent party.
Other than that, tho....too bad, so sad, if you can't handle what I have to say...well you get it.
Which is why John Kerry is the idiot of the world. He didn't understand he'd offended innocent parties. But his apology was insincere. Which makes him doubly, or maybe even triply stupid, in my book.
Blonde, you make a compelli
December 21, 2006 - 04:41 ET by liberal_bug_zapperBlonde, you make a compelling argument for apologies, however, I feel that this is a product of an incorrect assumption started far too long ago and is something that collectively, we need to stop doing.
Asking for someone's forgiveness is something entirely different. Don't apologize as it is insincere and it demeans whoever you have injured. Instead, give the power to them and ask for their forgiveness. It is a far greater act to ask for forgiveness than it is to apologize. The whole "Apologize" mantra has now become a "gotcha" tactic they use on the Left.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
LBZ,You don't say what the &q
December 21, 2006 - 04:52 ET by BlondeLBZ,
You don't say what the "incorrect assumption" is....
However, framing it as you have, I must agree. For if you have truly injured someone unjustly, forgiveness is what you are really seeking by the act of an apology.
And if you've injured them on purpose, well, you've done it on purpose.
As to the left....attack, attack, attack. Never relent.
My thoughts were much more on a personal level, though.
The 'incorrect assumption'
December 21, 2006 - 06:46 ET by liberal_bug_zapperThe 'incorrect assumption' is that by apologizing, we are asking for forgiveness.
But that is not what we are doing.
When you say, "I'm sorry" to someone, you're forcing the forgiveness factor. The assumption of an apology is that it means you are automatically forgiven. This is ultimately not for the victim, but for the guilty. It is a way of making them selves feel better, but it really takes the power of forgiveness away from those who deserve it most.
To apologize isn't truly a humbling experience because it does not require the other person take part. This also means it is not really sincere.
On the other hand, to ask for one's forgiveness is truly an act of humility as you are asking permission to be forgiven. If anyone ever says "I'm Sorry" to me, I always answer.... "Of course you are!" and walk away. Because what they really mean is that "I'm sorry I got caught."
I believe that much of our societal problems today are there because people think they can do anything, as long as they apologize. What a crock. Look, if you hurt someone, and it was not intentional, then the most valiant thing you can do is humble yourself to them and ask for their forgiveness. If they're an ass, sure they'll use that to try and tweak you... but you know inside that you've done the right thing.
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"These are the times that try men's souls." ~ Thomas Paine
I see that in my 5-year-old d
December 21, 2006 - 15:44 ET by Hero SquadI see that in my 5-year-old daughter when she says, "sahr-ree" vs. "do you forgive me?" The first one is definitely her attempt to wipe clean the slate so that she can go back to doing whatever she wanted to do unpunished. In her world, any wrong can be righted with that word. Well, she usually discovers that's not the case.
When she goes to the "Do you forgive me?" well, it definitely has more of an impact on us, and we know that she's realizing that her transgression was unacceptable. It usually happens when punishment has been mitigated and she hopes that her "sentence" will resolve the conflict.
HS, the "sahr-ree"
December 23, 2006 - 14:38 ET by MikeBHS, the "sahr-ree" is not an apology. It is an attempt to fool you into believing that she is apologizing when all she is doing is telling you what she thinks you want to hear so she'll get out of trouble. A real apology may, or may not include the phrase, "please forfive me." Whether it does or not, it is always up to the one being apologized to whether or not to forgive. John F'ing Kerry's "apology" was the same type of apology as your daughter's "sahr-ree", and it went over just as well.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
I see that in my 5-year-old d
December 21, 2006 - 15:44 ET by Hero Squaddouble post ... sorry! ;-)
We forgive you! Gun Safety
December 21, 2006 - 17:47 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveWe forgive you!
Gun Safety Tip #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. (www.imao.us)
But he didn't ASK for "f
December 22, 2006 - 08:20 ET by Indiana JoeBut he didn't ASK for "forgiveness!" ... ;^)
Many things that are not agai
December 22, 2006 - 03:08 ET byMany things that are not against the law, are still wrong and are still hurting our nation. A man flaunting his indiscretions, hurts those who see it.
Your point is well taken, sho
December 21, 2006 - 12:43 ET by Right Wing Attack DogYour point is well taken, should we also include, if we are going to make a list, Barney Frank, Ted Kennedy, and Bill Clinton?
How unfortunate that Joy 'R
December 21, 2006 - 02:59 ET by Republic1How unfortunate that Joy 'Rumsfeld is like Hitler' Behar didn't chime in with Rosie. But apparently, she's smart enough to only take colossal cheap shots at public figures who can't or won't sue. Many eagerly await the day that she infuriates a litigious billionaire.
"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." -Muhammad
Zzzpttthhh... they're both ri
December 21, 2006 - 05:42 ET by Andrew H.Zzzpttthhh... they're both right. Bad entertainment taken to the courtroom. It makes my head explode. Zzppthhzzt.
Liberalism is a convenient lie.
Like him or loath him, at l
December 21, 2006 - 05:57 ET by Jack BauerLike him or loath him, at least Trump has done things, other than host a TV show. Built huge buildings, created jobs, made others a living, contributed to the fabric of society (literally.)
What's O'Donnell ever done except open her huge empty gob on a regular basis to give us the wisdom of a sub-par high school education.
Proud member of the all-powerful and vast
militarist/industrialist/capitalist/zionist-bagelist complex
Rosie's problem is a demonic
December 22, 2006 - 03:11 ET byRosie's problem is a demonic presence, telling her it is okay to be a lesbian--such rules her life. Donald's problem is his own presence, telling him it is okay to be a jerk--such rules his life.
This will revive Katie's even
December 21, 2006 - 06:52 ET by ThisnThatThis will revive Katie's evening news show, if she plays it right. Every night, night after night, with all sorts of angles. She can pretend she's back on the morning gossip shows.
Maybe she'll even interview a Newsbuster regular. We have feelings too.
Barbara Walters must be a
December 21, 2006 - 07:31 ET by spiderdanBarbara Walters must be a complete basket case by now. If she thinks having a pair of dungballs like Behar and O'Donnell "improve" that tepid gossip-fest by bringing all the attention those two bring, Walters is a media shill of the worst order.
Fortunately, I don't watch that crap -- except for the blurbs shown here and on other notable web sites frequented by legitimate Americans. Even with the minimal exposure offered by those blurbs, I feel compelled to shower immediately after any clip showing that exhibition of horsedung spewed from the lips of idiots.
Spidy
December 21, 2006 - 10:36 ET by Noel SheppardSpidy,
I don't agree. The moment Barbara signed on to a midday ladies' coffee klatsch, she knew what she was getting. With Rosie on, ratings have exploded, and this looks like a great decision.
We may hate Rosie, and so might the Donald, but America is voting, and the votes are favorable regardless of what we think. Remember, the same demographic that watches soap operas and Oprah are watching The View. What does that tell you? ns
It tells me democracy is vast
December 21, 2006 - 11:28 ET by sarcasmoIt tells me democracy is vastly-overrated, but I'm interested in another aspect of all this -- the underlying humor-aspect. It's a burning question for me: Just how much can hotassed blondes get away with these days?? I've seen repeated cases of pedophilia-teacher wrist slaps (none of my highschool teachers were that hot, and none expressed the slightest sexual interest in me anyway) and now I've heard of this one apparently snorting some blow, but I want more, bigtime -- forget these small-time crimes...Let's see a hot blonde get away (literally) with murder!!!
JMR
Sarc
December 21, 2006 - 11:42 ET by Noel SheppardJ,
Democracy is overrated? Well, Merry Christmas to you, too. :-) ns
I'll come clean. I'm not a
December 21, 2006 - 12:04 ET by sarcasmoI'll come clean. I'm not a libertarian, I'm actually a monarchist -- I just happen to believe sarcasmo would make by-far the best monarch...And I'll repeat what I said last year: Happy Holidays or Merry Christmas to everyone -- depending on which one upsets you most. ;)
JMR
Sarc
December 21, 2006 - 12:06 ET by Noel SheppardJ,
So you're an equal opportunity offender. :-) ns
OK, that was pretty good.
December 21, 2006 - 12:23 ET by PeskyDaneOK, that was pretty good.
I guess that means the future
December 21, 2006 - 11:36 ET by Dave RI guess that means the future of this country is essentially in the hands of a bunch of bon-bon popping Peggy Bundy couch-potato types that this country, for some unknown reason, actually allows to enter a voting booth every couple of years.
Geez, my optimism for the future of my country is diminishing daily.
Dave
December 21, 2006 - 11:43 ET by Noel SheppardDave,
Well, that'll teach me not to ask open-ended questions. :-) ns
That's okay, Noel, as I am no
December 21, 2006 - 12:39 ET by Dave RThat's okay, Noel, as I am now in full Christmas mode my only concerns are what to get my 10 yo niece for Christmas and the optimal combination of charcoal and hickory chips I will need to maintain the proper cooking temp when I drop those two white wine-injected birds on my Webers this weekend.
Life is good.
Dave
December 21, 2006 - 13:25 ET by Noel SheppardDave,
White wine-injected birds. NICE. Could you elaborate on the type of bird, and how you're going to cook them? ns
No problem.You will need:1 ch
December 21, 2006 - 14:33 ET by Dave RNo problem.
You will need:
1 charcoal 18” dia. or larger grill with lid (Kettles are perfect) set up for indirect cooking (that means splitting the charcoal pile in half and placing each pile on the sides of the charcoal grate. You will want to place a drip pan between the piles to catch the drippings so they don't collect at the bottom of the grill, unless you enjoy un-controlled grease fires. Disposable cake pans are great for this.
-For 18" diameter grill, you will need 40 coals (20 each side) to start, adding 10-12 each hour to maintain approx. 350 degrees. For a 22" diameter grill you will need 50 coals (25 each side) to start and 14-16 added each hour for the same result. Make sure all vents are fully opened.
-I strongly recommend Kingsford, as it burns very evenly. Hardwood charcoal is a pain in this application because it burns to hot and the cheap stuff rarely burns at all.
1 10-12 lb turkey (Anything larger will not cook well).
1 cup decent white wine.
1 slightly rounded tbsp kosher salt.
1 injector.
1 quick-read meat thermometer.
Wood chips of your choice (I like hickory, but cherry and pecan are good, too).
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Place 1 cup of wood chips in water or wine to soak.
Dissolve salt in wine. Coat bird with olive oil, inject wine into all areas of the bird and season outside with salt and pepper. You can put any aromatics in the cavity you wish, such as onions, garlic, herbs and halved lemons, etc., but do not stuff the bird.
Set bird aside and start the charcoal. The bird will marinate while the coals are getting ready-when they are ashed over nearly completely-in about 20-25 minutes they should be ready.
Place lid on grill and wait five minutes to allow the grill temp to even out. Place bird on center of cooking grate and make sure there are no coals directly under it. Add desired amount of wood chips (1/2 cup or so) to the charcoal and replace lid.
I normally allow mine to smoke only for about 45 minutes, so one application of chips usually does it for me.
The bird will need to cook at 350 degrees for approximately 18 minutes per pound. Don’t forget to add charcoal each hour.
You may want to start checking the temp about fifteen minutes before you think it is ready-just remember, each time you lift the lid it adds 5 minutes to the cooking time, so no peeking.
When the internal temp hits 176-178 degrees (thigh temp but not at the bone) remove from grill and allow to rest for at least 30 minutes. It should reach 180 degrees after removal, as the heat from the bones will continue to cook the inside of the bird after it is off the grill.
Pour up a glass of your favorite win and enjoy.
If you have access to a hic
December 21, 2006 - 14:40 ET by sarcasmoIf you have access to a hickory tree, try using the nuts. They have more oil than other parts of the tree, so they'll develop an especially-thick smoke, and if you smash them with a hammer or vice grips first you get to eat the (tiny, not as good as a pecan) edible portion. Orange wood is also excellent, and I've heard but not tried that casurina (Australian pine, an annoying tree around here anyway) needles also work.
JMR
Trash
December 21, 2006 - 12:46 ET by cvgbuckeyeI don't know Noel. I guess I'd have to ask if you know what high percentage of our population visit pornography sites on the web. Citing the increased ratings of The View is a greater indictment on our society than it is a compliment to the trash that host it.
But this is rhetorical because I think you agree. At least I hope that you do.
CVG
December 21, 2006 - 13:30 ET by Noel SheppardCVG,
Actually, I don't know those percentages, but imagine them to be very high. As for the increasing percentage of folks watching The View, and what it says about society, the numbers are still so low as to be somewhat irrelevant. Let's assume they're getting 2 million or 3 million viewers. That's only 1 percent of the population, right? Even at 6 million, they're at 2 percent. This is still a fringe to a certain extent, right? ns
thanks Donald
December 21, 2006 - 08:17 ET by foolnomorewell this is going to be great press for both side's, the Donald has enough lawyers to fill the the Yankee statium, thanks for the X-mas present Mr Trump. Hopefully this will expose this side/show freak.Using the air wave's for "her" brand of hate speech may come to an end, if Barabra was ?smart? she'd,"YOUR FIRED" Dodo'@ss and bring back some moral communication!! yes a second chance for Miss'ie is good but If she couldn't pass a DRUG test/ You get laid-off/fired in my "REAL" world or until you clean up your,problem's.. (p.s. "being with persons of known immoral-perpetrations"; are in a lot of contract's
Go for it, The Donald. I'd
December 21, 2006 - 08:31 ET by NoMoreClintonsGo for it, The Donald. I'd say sue the pants off her . . . but that's a disgusting thought.
Why are their states Blue and ours Red? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
italics offGun Safety Tip #
December 21, 2006 - 19:35 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Loveitalics off
Gun Safety Tip #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. (www.imao.us)
ending the italics LNTHO
December 21, 2006 - 19:35 ET by lnthompending the italics
LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)
I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.
Great minds think alike! G
December 21, 2006 - 19:36 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveGreat minds think alike!
Gun Safety Tip #8: No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey. (www.imao.us)
Yeah, I guess you got yours
December 21, 2006 - 19:39 ET by lnthompYeah, I guess you got yours posted as I was writing mine :-)
LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)
I have enough money to last me the rest of my life. Unless I buy something.
Rosie continued her rant la
December 21, 2006 - 08:50 ET by Jack BauerRosie continued her rant lashing out at Donald Trump's decision to give Tara Conner a second chance. "
Wow. I'm thinking there's more to this story than meets the eye from (to steal from Patton) The Magnificent Dyke.
D'ya think O'Donnell had read the reports of Ms Conner's alleged lipstick lesbian fondlings, hit on and was rebuffed by laughter?
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Hey Jackson,Here's an off-top
December 21, 2006 - 12:02 ET by Roger the ShrubberHey Jackson,
Here's an off-topic oddity: today is the birthday of Jack Bauer, and the anniversary of the death of George Patton.
How's that for tying together your last comment?
Excellent Shrubbster -- als
December 21, 2006 - 12:17 ET by Jack BauerExcellent Shrubbster -- also Jack (oh, all right, Keifer!!) was born in "swinging" London, England in 1966.
Not many people know that.
And boy, do we need a Patton today.
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Happy birthday Jack! I thi
December 21, 2006 - 14:13 ET by Dee BunkHappy birthday Jack! I think - or is it a joke that I don't get. What's with the Keifer reference? Is this the big 40 for you?
Just a gag Dee... no, I'm
December 21, 2006 - 14:25 ET by Jack BauerJust a gag Dee... no, I'm not refering to myself in the third person, Keifer being 40 today!
And being that Day Six, Jack Bauer MUST die! Gulp!
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Jack - I can't believe it -
December 21, 2006 - 14:37 ET by Dee BunkJack - I can't believe it - I'm such a ditz - I just now get the 24 reference. I had never watched that show until recently on DVD but I always thought it was your real name so it just didn't click.
jack's dad
December 21, 2006 - 14:45 ET by tumbler_2007Jack's father is a Canadian. Yeah; I recall from Documentary Channel now;
Donald Sutherland played second banana in Hamlet to Christopher Plummer on the London stage and TV, about 40 years ago. So Li'l Kiefer was brought up on bangers & steak/kidney pies for a long time.
I just had a brainstorm: Bo
December 21, 2006 - 15:47 ET by balboaI just had a brainstorm: Bobby Knight should get back into the military!
And do what, throw chairs? ..
December 22, 2006 - 08:29 ET by Indiana JoeAnd do what, throw chairs? ... ;^D
Hmm, second thought: Drill Instructor???
This wonderful turn of events
December 21, 2006 - 09:04 ET by Dave RThis wonderful turn of events should prove to all the doubters out there that God does exist and is in firm control of things.
That pic of Rosie is the best one placed on this site yet. She looks as though she were passing a cow.
Trump Sues Rosie - Elephant Steps on Snail.
December 21, 2006 - 09:05 ET by acaiguanaTrump Sues Rosie - Elephant Steps on Snail.
I'm reminded of the joke about:
What does a snail say on a turtle's back?
"WHEEEEEEEEEE"
If an elephant steps on a snail does the Elephant notice? Ummm....
"Gee I dunno."
ACA
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Acaiguana says: "Ya can't win if ya don't play."
Aca, But this is a huge, fa
December 21, 2006 - 23:04 ET by JerryAca,
But this is a huge, fat slug of a snail. The elephant could slip and bump a knee or something. And it would leave a nasty oil slick.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Oh this should be fun to watc
December 21, 2006 - 09:27 ET by msh1973Oh this should be fun to watch.
now is the time for us to put
December 21, 2006 - 10:13 ET by buddycnow is the time for us to put up or shut up. it is time to contact trump and contribute to his legal fees.
sue the bitch.
i loved his comments about her. loser loser loser. he even said he would have one of his girls steal rosie's girl away from her. great stuff.
It was reported on the news l
December 21, 2006 - 10:24 ET by 4arrowIt was reported on the news last night that Rosie applied for and was turned down to replace Bob Barker on the Price is Right. Timing?
Rosie
December 21, 2006 - 10:37 ET by iveseenitallI hope Rosie gets her "long over-due" due. But it'll be just " one obnoxius liberal down, hundreds to go ".
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
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