Editor & Publisher Hails Find of AP's 'Capt. Jamil' of '6 Burning Iraqis' Fame, Taunts Bloggers


Editor and Publisher seems hardly able to hold back their excitement over the possibility that someone has found proof of the existence of the mysterious "Captain Jamil Hussein" who the Associated Press claimed as a source for the supposed burning of 6 Sunni Iraqis in retaliation for the depredations of that sect on their Shi'ite neighbors.

In a Sunday posting on their site, E&P is crowing about "Conservative Bloggers in the U.S." eating crow.

Though far from definitive proof, it was strong enough to cause at least one conservative blogger to wonder if those who had mocked the AP might have to eat "a huge shinola sandwich."

The tag for the story on the Hot Air home page currently reads, "Anyone got any good recipes for crow?"

It was a story that had no proof whatsoever except this "captain of Iraqi police" the AP quoted. There is no confirmation by any second source, nor any proof by Iraqi government sources or US Army sources. No physical evidence, or photographs. In fact the US Army disputed the story openly.But the story made a great splash and was widely cited by news services all across the western media as if it was totally verified.

USA Today reported back on November 28th that "The Associated Press is standing by its report that six Sunni men were burned to death in Baghdad Friday by Shiites, even though U.S. military officials have accused the wire service of relying on a source who "is not who he claimed he was," an Iraqi police captain."

Now,Marc Danziger of Winds of Change Blog posted the following on the 17th:

With the help of some friends who have been doing a smidgen of looking, and it appears - appears, but is not certain - that there is in fact a Jamail Hussein in the Yarmouk police station in Baghdad. We'll know more tomorrow.

Editor & Publisher seems to be relishing that Michelle Malkin and others will have to "eat crow" if it is proven that this captain does, indeed, exist.

However, E&P seems to be missing the real story... as usual.

The fact is, whether this Captain Hussein exists or not, there is still no corroboration for the story of six burned Iraqis.

And, it has always been a staple of journalism that more than one source be required to publish a story reported as "fact". After all, if only ONE source is ever needed for a story, then anyone can publish anything as "fact" merely upon any single person's say so.

I slept with Marilyn Monroe, ya know? Print that as fact, AP... just because I say so. Even though I was but a child when she was found dead. But this one source says it's true, so the AP MUST assume it could be fact!

It is also interesting how E&P has jumped on a story that is reported as one being reported from "...some friends who have been doing a smidgen of looking, and it appears - appears, but is not certain..." How is this a story? With a may and a might and a could have been?

Isn't this just what they are chiding the "Conservative Bloggers" and Michelle Malkin for? Not having proof in hand of the truth of their claims that Captain Hussein didn't exist before writing their posts? Isn't that exactly what E&P just did with a report that "appears - appears, but is not certain"?

Further, did they not think that there could be more than a few Hussein's in Iraq, or any OTHER Muslim country for that matter, that could be a policeman?

If E&P wanted to stick a finger in Malkin's and those "Conservative Blogger's" eyes, they might have wanted to be sure themselves of the truth of the matter!

In the long run, E&P's "report" did nothing to clarify the situation and amounts to nothing but schoolyard finger pointing and an exercise of their own in mocking -- a thing they seem to be decrying in Malkin -- and they have opened themselves up to being slapped right back with claims of hypocrisy if this story of the found Captain Hussein turns out to be a false lead.

Looks like Editor & Publisher was in need of an editor for their report!

(See more at Michelle Malkin's HotAir blog)


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Think about if it's a true

Think about if it's a true lead, though. How did this guy existing escape the notice of the US Army and his own employer? Sounds odd, to say the least.
JMR

Dude, it's a war zone! Peop

Dude, it's a war zone! People come and go at will there.

And, how many Husseins do you think there are running around over there? Also, we have no idea if he is an Iraqi policeman now, or WAS one! If he isn't one now, it would make sense that the government (both Iraq's and ours) couldn't find him.

But one thing is sure. Even if he does exist and was the source that the AP used, he has NO proof for the 6 burning Iraqis claim and neither does the AP!

Oh, I totally agree, especi

Oh, I totally agree, especially with your last point. Until the six crispy-Sunnis turn up somewhere, the AP gets the plate of crow. I'm just finding it odd that an entire military/police infrastructure which is almost by definition good at making/keeping lists of names can't, or couldn't until now, find this one. I also agree that Hussein is probably like Smith or Jones for them, but list-keepers find ways around that issue planetwide.
JMR

Ah. Gottcha.

Ah. Gottcha.

I believe that six burning people would be easy to prove.

I believe that six burning people would be easy to prove.

Even in a so-called war zone like Iraq.  After all, wouldn't there be some reliable witness to this that wouldn't take a month to locate?

Now, after a month (I'm estimating here - don't have the exact date in hand) they dig up someone who may, might, could have been, probably, often, sometimes, never?

I'm amused by the incredible intensity of the response to this story and its apparent falseness.  Gee, the AP prints false stories all the time.  Why make such a deal over this one?

Maybe because their sandwich is finally being looked at for Ham and the consumer can read his/her newspaper through the slice the thing holds.

ACA

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Acaiguana says:  "Ya can't win if ya don't play."

What I believe should be easy

What I believe should be easy to prove is the existance of a source the AP says they have used and trusted for two years! There should be no need to "search" for a source they seem to confer with on a regular basis over that kind of time period.

I just don't understand why the AP couldn't have easly proved his existance within 48 hrs of the question arising -unless the relationship isn't quite what they suggest. It should be the responsibility of the AP to prove they have a source or pull the story.

Bottom line for me: If a "source" can't be checked or verified, it is not a reliable source.

Even if this guy does exist.

Even if this guy does exist. It does not mean the event even happened.  Without bodies or proof of the crime this guy could say he is the great Kazoo and his story would have the same credibility.

This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave. 

This reminds me of the tria

This reminds me of the trial in Miracle on 34th Street, proving or disproving whether Santa Claus exists. Apparently, AP is trying to prove the initial story is true by proving the existence of their SINGLE source. Personally, I find it very odd that no other evidence has been presented, which one would think should be easy in this case.

I'm surprised Mr. Green Helmet wasn't on the scene with his camera crew.

"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana

You slept with Marilyn Monroe

You slept with Marilyn Monroe too?

Logic has nothing to do with this story.  They hate Michelle (and who wouldn't, like all conservatives, she is way above them in looks, brains and ideology...especially looks).  The fact that the blogs called them on their story instantly started the building of the bulworks of defense, without regard to whether their story needed or deserved to be defended. 

The AP has failed the test as far as any inherent integrity.  As I have said before, I would sooner listen to a slick used car salesmen than a news report from those losers.  It's just sad that most of the world doesn't follow this story.

You slept with Marilyn Monroe

You slept with Marilyn Monroe too?

Well, I SAID so, didn't I?

That should have been enough for the AP.