After a prolonged absence for health reasons Chris Matthews returned to the airwaves last night and as if making up for lost time quickly returned to bashing Bush over Iraq. As part of Hardball's College Tour, Matthews brought former Senator and Vice Presidential candidate John Edwards to the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill to join in the bashing and within the first few minutes of the show asked Edwards if Bush going to Iraq "was a daddy thing," and if he thought it was "scary" that "a President of the United States of limited ability," was able to create a "firestorm of almost messianic nuttiness."
Then a little later on Matthews asked Edwards "why do you think we're still hated around the world?" and worried that 9/11 had "screwed up our value system about humility in the world."
The following exchanges occured on the December 12 Hardball, as Matthews, as part of an ongoing college tour, brought Edwards to the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill.
Chris Matthews: "What's the lesson over there? Did we, did we, I know you've been very direct about this saying it, you, among, among a lot of senators in both parties supported this war, it was a mistake..."
John Edwards: "I said I was wrong. I said I was wrong."
Matthews: "You said something very interesting in that article. In the lead, you said there was a political agenda here. It wasn't just WMD. What was that? What was the President up to here with going to war in Iraq?"
Edwards: "It's impossible for me to know. I think he had an agenda against Saddam Hussein from the moment he stepped into office."
Matthews: "Was it a daddy thing?"
Edwards: "Could be. I think, I can`t get inside his mind, but it`s possible."
Matthews: "He never told us that."
Edwards: "No, of course he didn't tell us. No, he said this was all about the war on terrorism, central to the war on terrorism. He took a place that was not central to the war on terrorism and turned it, made it central to the war on terrorism."
Matthews: "You're a student of American life. You`re very in active in politics, very successful. Do you think that it`s scary that a president of the United States of limited ability was able to take this country and create a firestorm of almost messianic nuttiness about the fact of the French are no good, we`re going to have freedom fries. The Dixie Chicks are no good. He created a national attitude of you have to be for me, or you`re bad. Did that scare you a little?"
Edwards: "I think, I think the lesson is there`s a depth, a maturity, an experience, the ability to exercise good judgment that`s required of the President of the United States that ought to be on the forefront of any decision that a voter makes in 2008."
In the next segment Matthews continued to pitch his hardly, hardballs to Edwards:
Matthews: "And why do you think we're still hated around the world?"
Edwards: "Why do I think America's still hated?"
Matthews: "Yeah. We are."
Edwards: "Because I think that over the last six years, the Bush administration has shown a fundamental misunderstanding of what it takes to lead. I think to lead you have to have more than power. You need power."
Matthews: "Right."
Edwards: "You need to be strong militarily, economically, et cetera. But I think you also have to show that you have the moral authority to lead. Countries have to naturally want to come to you. In order for that to be true, you have to sometimes act in things that are outside your own strategic self-interest, things like the genocide in Sudan."
Matthews: "When President Bush ran for office, he said something that grabbed me. He said, 'I think we need to be a little more humble in our foreign policy. Do you think 9/11, as horrible as it was, screwed up our value system about humility in the world, whether we're the boss of the world?"
Edwards, to a round of applause from the UNC students: "No I think George Bush screwed up our value system."
—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.
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First, Matthews makes the jud
December 13, 2006 - 16:15 ET by GalvanicFirst, Matthews makes the judgment that Bush has "limited ability" --- compared to whom, Chris?
But then he blames "freedom fries" (the act of a few Republican Congressmen) and the rebuke of the Dixie Chicks (by contry music station DJs), on Bush. Bush never told the American people to get down on the French or the Dixie Chicks.
Limited ability means Not Liberal
December 13, 2006 - 16:20 ET by dagdaChris Matthews is a shill for the Democratic Party. We should check to see if he is being bought by them or is just a "fellow traveler."
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Absolutely right, Galvanic. V
December 13, 2006 - 16:57 ET by chinesearithmeticAbsolutely right, Galvanic. Vermin and mewling filth Chris Matthews, don't you dare manipulate the American people with your "everybody hates us" snare. I consider it a badge of honor to be hated by English snakes and French snails!
At least Matthews isn't PISSI
December 14, 2006 - 10:54 ET by TruthMongerAt least Matthews isn't PISSING ON THE KORAN, however please feel free to insult us as Messianic Nuts, there Chris!
No riots scheduled as of yet...
Terrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christians, etc, etc...
Our Value System
December 13, 2006 - 16:30 ET by exLib1 - We were and have been "hated" by the world for quite awhile now, Bush did NOTHING to change that.
2 - Clinton may have been "like" by a few of the liberal Euro leaders, I say maybe.
3 - Going into the Balkans did NOT make Muslims in the Middle East like us anymore.
4 - When I read that our then envoy to the UN was BOOED becuase when Bush took office he cut off funding for abortions to foreign countries that was all I needed to know about having the "world" love us.
5 - The Bible is very clear what Love of the World means...
I saw this nutcase yesterday.
December 13, 2006 - 16:31 ET by bigtimerI saw this nutcase yesterday...the whole show was absolutely off the wall more so than usual.....
I think he was hospitalized alright...in the mental ward...and released too soon, or prescribed the wrong med's or he took too many or not enough...he is certifiable...completely a goner....he was disgraceful alright, but more so to himself as a human being.
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland
Flavor of the day??
December 13, 2006 - 17:00 ET by misterbillToday John Edwards, last week Balack Obummer???
When will the butt kissing stop. I say we should close the Fourth Estate. The current owners have allowed it to deteriorate to an irreparable state.
The MSM was only emboldened
December 13, 2006 - 20:13 ET by JerryThe MSM was only emboldened by the mid term elections, where they were instrumental in convincing conservatives to stay home. I'm afraid we will be facing a never-ending onslaught of liberal info-mercials under the guise of "unbiased" reporting until the MSM corronates the next Dem president.
They think they still "got it" when it comes to influencing public opinion, and I'm sad to say that it appears they may be right. There are far too many willfully ignorant MTV raised, public school indoctrinated, MSM brain-washed "liberated" group thinkers that lap up their painfully obvious, patently devious, democrat talking points as the gospel.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
"... I can't get inside
December 13, 2006 - 17:14 ET by BuffNBone"... I can't get inside his mind..." Should we take this as an admission that he really can't do the channelling thing?
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
"Should we take this as
December 14, 2006 - 07:21 ET by Indiana Joe"Should we take this as an admission that he really can't do the channelling thing?"
Buff, you DO realize this was John Edwards, the politician, NOT John Edward, the "psychic," don't you?
I HAVE seen that confusion on these boards before.
IMO, THIS guy can't even get inside his OWN mind... probably because it scares him to death....
[btw, like the tag-line.... ;^) ]
Joe,Wasn't there a story abou
December 14, 2006 - 07:38 ET by saw the lightJoe,
Wasn't there a story about how Edwards, when representing medical malpractice, would say he could channel the dead or brain-damaged child? Something like that, designed to gain more sympathy and a bigger damage award.
"People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." - A.J. Liebling
No offense to Joe this was th
December 14, 2006 - 07:51 ET by BuffNBoneNo offense to Joe this was the reference I was making. I DO realize there is a difference between Edwards and Edward. Glad you liked the tagline.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Buff,No offense meant, and no
December 14, 2006 - 08:13 ET by Indiana JoeBuff,
No offense meant, and none taken. Like I said, I have seen that confusion before. Not the first jest to go past me, LOL.
Re: the tag-line, I have more a "fighter" mentality, but just civilian enthusiasm. Airshow junkie, and the B-2 is just AWESOME to watch! I like the concept of your tag, very true and succint. Just very well-put, I guess I'm trying to say. Kudos.
Regards,
IJ
The B-2 post dates my time in
December 14, 2006 - 15:41 ET by BuffNBoneThe B-2 post dates my time in the service. The B-52 was/is an amazing bit of engineering. Hard to image the technology is over 45 years old. How many 45 year old vehicles are still on the road? The B-1 (aka Bone) was just flat fun to fly.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Actually, I've never seen Edw
December 14, 2006 - 08:18 ET by Indiana Joesaw the light,
Actually, I've never seen Edward. My knowledge of him comes completely from a "South Park" send-up, where they exposed the concept of "cold reading." It ended with Edward winning "The Biggest Douche in the Universe" competition. Funny stuff....
From the story you tell here, sounds like he deserves it. But wait, I'm confused again.... which "Edwards" (or "Edward") do you mean? I know ONE claims to channel the dead, and ONE is this politician/lawyer. I guess the "representing medical malpractice" line is what's throwing me.... or are you just funnin' me too? Somedays, I'm SO easy, LOL!
Maybe it's just me....it's been a rough year.... ;^)
Sorry to confuse, Joe. I wa
December 14, 2006 - 11:11 ET by saw the lightSorry to confuse, Joe. I was referring to the politician/lawyer/vice-presidential candidate. It seemed to me to be quite a sensationalistic technique to use, and it sounds exactly like a personal injury attorney. Thank the Lord that Kerry and Edwards were not elected in 2004. But, I guess, if they were, people like Chris Reeve would be walking right now.
Also, I haven't seen the other Edward, either. Only slight name recognition when you mention him.
"People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." - A.J. Liebling
I bet this puss pimple wouldn
December 13, 2006 - 18:18 ET by mattmI bet this puss pimple wouldn't have the guts to say those things to anything but a Lefty college audience and a Lefty loser politician.
C'mon Chrissy, get a radio show so we can call in and prove that the average Joe Schmuck can kick your sorry ass in any fair debate on ANY subject... At least Al The Buck Toothed Moron Franken did that much...although he couldn't generate an audience....
Health Reasons
December 13, 2006 - 18:39 ET by allanfWas the absence due to (mental health reasons?
"...you have to sometime
December 13, 2006 - 18:43 ET by saw the light"...you have to sometimes act in things that are outside your own strategic self-interest, things like the genocide in Sudan."
So intervention with genocide in the Sudan is a good foreign policy, but intervention with genocide occurring in Iraq (see: Kurds) is not OK. What about intervention with genocide in Rwanda? Oh, that's right. Democrats talk a good game but FAIL miserably when action is needed.
"Do you think 9/11...screwed up our value system about humility in the world..."
I think 9/11 told us that we couldn't be humble in the world. We were hit hard, and the only way to respond is with overwhelming force. Talking to these people, trying to "understand" them WILL NOT WORK. The only way a terrorist will stop trying to kill Americans is if he (or she) is DEAD! The more dead terrorists, the safer we are.
Matthews and Edwards do not deserve our attention.
"People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news." - A.J. Liebling
I wonder if he spent twenty m
December 13, 2006 - 20:15 ET by VT Con ManI wonder if he spent twenty minutes primpin' his hair. The Breck Girl is baaaaack ! Just askin.
We have kids coming out of
December 13, 2006 - 21:40 ET by Right2thePointWe have kids coming out of high school and now entering colleges at historically high numbers.
At first blush this would sound positive, but in fact the first two years of college are spent getting them up to speed of the same level of knowledge as high school graduates 30 years ago.
Then they have a decidely liberal college staff and an overwhellming liberal media as their source of information.
Since they have only known the conventional easiest and sleasyist way to get thru life, it is not very likely they would develope the curiosity or ambition to look for alternatives. Add peer pressure and the go along to get along meme and you end up where we are.
Simple sad and to the point.
So looking at the article a
December 13, 2006 - 21:49 ET by Right2thePointSo looking at the article above that tries to pass of as some kind of news reporting. Actually it fits more approproate with the cheerleaders in the lower picture because there were no factual subjective measureable points expressed just preaching to the choir meme.
I also note the Breck girl even carefully coordinated his tie color with the cheerleader outfits. How cute.
hee's back
December 14, 2006 - 00:21 ET by foolnomoreyes he was a visitor: the odor'ly oder'ly said he cryed all night, I'am so glad,i'll get some sleep now,this reject from, boston/bath-rooms learnt all his tripe from uncle ted an tip o'neil an hung around with"lurch" so i don't have to say any more. couldn't or wouldn't tell the truth even if he was sitting on a priest's lap.
Reading this garbage brings a
December 14, 2006 - 07:27 ET by Indiana JoeReading this garbage brings an image to mind:
Two supperating rectums, facing each other, spewing out and catching the same gob of fecal matter, back and forth, over and over....
Playing "catch" with it, IOW. Not pretty, but apt, I think.
'Nuff said...
Chris Nuttyhews
December 14, 2006 - 09:36 ET by Senior Chief"And why do you think we're still hated around the world?" That line of questioning is moronic and deserves rebattle...I came from a third world country, and I would say 90% or more of the world's popluation don't hate America. They'd love to come to America. As a matter of fact, these people will do ANYTHING and EVRYTHING just to get to America. Check each country's Immigration department and find out who's got the most visa applications, immigration petitions, immigration lotteries, quotas, etc. Also check which country has the most illegal aliens. The 10% or maybe less of the world's population are the dictators, the real communists, terrorists and propagandists- the leftist media, the elites who control their societies and their economies. They will also support demonstrations and rallies as long as the target of their hatred is America and not them. They will allow such chaos to deviate attention to corruption and ineptness to govern their own country. These elites are weak but will use brute force to intimidate and weaken any opposition. To the rest my fellow Americans, they will never fathom all of these for they are living comfortably. We all need to wake up and thank the Lord God we are in America. There are lots of Americans in this country who hates this country. I'll say to you, leave the country, migrate and join the 10% population of America haters. I just so happened to know of country/ies that you symphatize, and to be fair, I'll cash-in my retirement, my stocks and other investment to sponsor you with a free one-way ticket. I'll bet my life and my children's lives you won't stand there a day. Your family will see your head cut-off on TV, you'll find out what torture means and probably you'll understand what freedom of (blank, _____whatever) means. Any takers out there, please reply. I'm waiting...