Mark Steyn Slams AP as Semi-Treasonous Disgraceful Agents of the Enemy

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Outspoken author Mark Steyn was Bill O’Reilly’s guest on Fox News’ “O’Reilly Factor” Thursday, and he slammed the Associated Press as being “semi-treasonous,” a “disgraceful organization” that is “colluding with the enemy and demoralizing America on the home front.” After some introductory pleasantries, Steyn let loose (video available here):

I believe that the majority of American newspapers which is full of Associated Press content on the central issue of our time they are either dupes at best or actually semi-treasonous and colluding with the enemy and demoralizing America on the home front, including having agents of the enemy on their payroll. This is a disgraceful organization.

Make yourselves comfortable, for Steyn was just getting warmed up:

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There is a photographer who was captured who is in U.S. custody. He is a Pulitzer Prize winning photographer for the Associated Press and he was captured with insurgents, with traces of explosives on his clothing. The fact of the matter is that these guys who all say that if you want to be a reporter on the Burlington Free Press in Vermont you have got to go to Columbia journalism school, they are happy to hook up with any kind of local stringers in Iraq and a lot of them are actually also working for the insurgency in one faction or another.

Steyn then went after NBC’s David Gregory:

Well, I think David Gregory is not typical because he is interested in the David Gregory vaudeville show and if I was in some second-rate vaudeville house in 1873, I might think it was very entertaining. It's lame entertainment for the 21st century because that's not what it's about. This is not about landing a question on Bush. This is about strategic interest of the super power and, in fact, the question for the rest of the world is whether this country still is a super power. It's not the David Gregory show.

Steyn continued:

But what's interesting is when you look at the people who showered praise on this Iraq Study Group report, which I think is mostly the lamest kind of platitude in its generalities that anybody could produce. Any semi well informed person could produce. Plus several really bad ideas. It's not cut and run it's basically chat and run. We will do a bit of talking as we retreat. I would like to see some discussion from people like David Gregory on what's actually in that report. But there is very little of that.

Steyn then made it clear what the real media desire is: “They want Bush to lose and I think they don't understand that around the world it will be seen not as a defeat for Bush and Cheney and Rummy and the gang but a defeat for America.”

Steyn finished with his perception of what is and what isn’t being reported from Iraq:

Well, I think you don't report it from being hunkered down in the green zone in Baghdad. There are all kinds of stories going on in Iraq. You know, it's interesting to me that if so many people are getting killed and life is so terrible and there are so many explosions, actually, most of the schools in Iraq are open. Most of the hospitals in Iraq are open. Most of Iraq functions and they are simply not telling that story. And more to the point because they have been revealed to be such patsies for every obvious cockamamie insurgency media set up, the insurgents of various stripes have now factored the U.S. media into their calculations they are in fact bouncing their view of Iraq into Americans homes via the mainstream media.

What follows is a full transcript of this segment corrected from closed captioning.

O’Reilly: Now for the top story tonight, another view of this, joining us from Washington Mark Steyn, "America Alone: The End of the World as we Know It" a big bestseller. Let's get into the press first, and then we’ll backhoe into what is real and what is fictional about this terrible situation in Iraq. You said on the radio we were talking on the radio the other day, the Associated Press, you don't even want to be associated with the Associated Press. Why?

Steyn: No. Because I believe that the majority of American newspapers which is full of Associated Press content on the central issue of our time they are either dupes at best or actually semi-treasonous and colluding with the enemy and demoralizing America on the home front, including having agents of the enemy on their payroll. This is a disgraceful organization.

O’Reilly: You will have to explain that because it's a pretty explosive charge. Agents of the enemy?

Steyn: Yeah. There is a photographer who was captured who is in U.S. custody. He is a Pulitzer Prize winning photographer for the Associated Press and he was captured with insurgents, with traces of explosives on his clothing. The fact of the matter is that these guys who all say that if you want to be a reporter on the Burlington Free Press in Vermont you have got to go to Columbia journalism school, they are happy to hook up with any kind of local stringers in Iraq and a lot of them are actually also working for the insurgency in one faction or another.

O’Reilly: Do you believe the Associated Press and other -- I'm not going to call the Associated Press liberal but certainly as I said NBC has taken a move to the left and Gregory, we don't want to pick on him but that's the best example. I will play more of that with Tony Snow in a while to give you a better flavor of it.

Steyn: Right.

O’Reilly: Do you think they want the United States to lose in Iraq or they just believe that it's -- the incompetence level is something they have to report?

Steyn: Well, I think David Gregory is not typical because he is interested in the David Gregory vaudeville show and if I was in some second-rate vaudeville house in 1873, I might think it was very entertaining. It's lame entertainment for the 21st century because that's not what it's about. This is not about landing a question on Bush. This is about strategic interest of the super power and, in fact, the question for the rest of the world is whether this country still is a super power. It's not the David Gregory show.

O’Reilly: But if Gregory feels he has an obligation to inform America that things are not going well in Iraq, if he has that obligation, and obviously that's his point of view, is he doing anything wrong?

Steyn: No. He is not. But what's interesting is when you look at the people who showered praise on this Iraq Study Group report, which I think is mostly the lamest kind of platitude in its generalities that anybody could produce. Any semi well informed person could produce. Plus several really bad ideas. It's not cut and run it's basically chat and run. We will do a bit of talking as we retreat. I would like to see some discussion from people like David Gregory on what's actually in that report. But there is very little of that.

O’Reilly: Because they want the U.S.A. to lose or they don't understand the ramifications of us withdrawing? Which is it? Do they hate Bush so much that they want us to lose or they don't understand?

Steyn: They want Bush to lose and I think they don't understand that around the world it will be seen not as a defeat for Bush and Cheney and Rummy and the gang but a defeat for America.

O’Reilly: Now, it is true that the Iraqi government is not functioning well and there is massive corruption and the security has broken down. All of those things are true. So, how do we report that and not demoralize the public?

Steyn: Well, I think you don't report it from being hunkered down in the green zone in Baghdad. There are all kinds of stories going on in Iraq. You know, it's interesting to me that if so many people are getting killed and life is so terrible and there are so many explosions, actually, most of the schools in Iraq are open. Most of the hospitals in Iraq are open. Most of Iraq functions and they are simply not telling that story. And more to the point because they have been revealed to be such patsies for every obvious cockamamie insurgency media set up, the insurgents of various stripes have now factored the U.S. media into their calculations they are in fact bouncing their view of Iraq into Americans homes via the mainstream media.

Bill: No question they use the media as the Vietnamese did. They target the media for their violence for chaos. I think it is true to say that the Maliki government can't control what's going on there. And it doesn't look like things are improving. In fact, I do believe that conclusions of the study group that things are getting worse in Iraq.

Steyn: Well, the study group is right to this extent that just sort of drifting on with the present policy is not getting us anywhere. Where they are wrong is not coming up with anything meaningful to improve the situation.

Steyn: All right. Mr. Steyn thanks very much, we appreciate it.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.


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AP

This is why the rest of the press hates Fox and BOR. They have guests who tell it like it is. I love Fox for it.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

isia: FNC's slogan "we rep

isia:

FNC's slogan "we report, you decide" sounds so cheesy, but it's the slogan of journalism-or at least it should be.

I abhor having to sift through the smoke and fog to get to the real story of news items. FNC at least presents a story, not an editorial.

To say that FNC is biased to the right merely points out how liberally biased MSM is.

I agree with Steyn on AP's appalling attempts at journalistic integrity. The first thing I do if I'm interested in an AP story is to verify it from independent sources.

Steyn

Saw the interview as it was happening and actually sat up in my chair.  The O'Man can be pretty insufferable sometimes, but guests like Steyn make his show one of the best.

Mark Steyn is one of the be

Mark Steyn is one of the best...


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

Agreed, he's one of the best

Agreed, he's one of the best writers in National Review. Always love his stuff, turn to him first almost every issue he's in.... which seems to be nearly ALL of them, thank God!

I saw this, and was delighted

I saw this, and was delighted in the way he discribed the AP, the media, David Gregory, and that ridiculous report. He was dead on. I wish he would have gone on to discribe the reporters asking questions of the commitee when it was released. The ditzy one that asked it the President had to empliment all the recomendations, or if he could pick and choose. Dont these reporters have to go to school? Or do they just have to profess to be liberal to get the job?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

AP

I posted this post awhile back in regards to the AP. 

I sometimes purchase a magazine called "Armchair General" which deals with military history as well as leadership strategies among other topics.  In their current edition they have a summary of a book by Richard Bateman entitled "No Gun Ri:  A Military History of the Korean War Incident."  For those who may remember, AP ran a story back in 1999 in regards to South Korean civilians being killed during the Korean War by American soldiers.  Their first assumptions were that 100 civilians were killed, but quickly they claimed that the number was as high as 400.  One of their main sources was an ex army soldier named Edward Daily who claimed he in fact was gunning down the civilians.  Ed Daily also claimed to be a Korean War decorated hero.  He appeared on "Dateline" and met face to face with South Korean civilian claimants and apologized to them.  Turns out this guy was a total fraud, and wasn't a war hero.  In fact he was a jeep mechanic and didn't man a machine gun.  He created a phony combat record and collected $400,000+ from the government.  He also then acknowledged that he made everything up that he told the MSM.  Now the AP writers for the story won Pulitzers.  Bateman decided to do his own investigation, and he believes that nervous poorly trained soldiers became confused and somewhere around 35 civilians were killed.  Now to try to piece together something from 50+ years ago is rather difficult, and in my opinion it would be very hard to rely on 50+ year old memories to know everything, but Bateman clearly showed that the MSM used a false eyewitness.  Check out the link to see how the AP reporter responed when he found out a book was coming out that was negative towards their report.  They sure like it when they make other people look bad with false eyewitnesses, but if someone wants to write a book about them, then they start pouting. If you are interested in learning more about this, checkout the current edition of "Armchair General" at your local bookstore. Here is a quote from Bateman "The AP was no longer investigating but rather trying to 'prove' something that it already believed.  This [assessment] is supported by the manner in which the reporters terminated an interview if the veteran did not agree with their thesis"  Armchair General January 2007 edition page 12.

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies95.htm

"Well I got nothing against the press, they wouldn't print it if it wasn't true"  'Sunday Papers'

Wish I had seen Mark.  He te

Wish I had seen Mark.  He tells it like it is.

noel great reading's!!

sadly this will be not taken serious,and only passed off as another book pusher , mr steyn turly has a lot to say, I do enjoy every bit of his wisdom and forsight: thank you, to both of you, God bless!!

Styne

"......... the insurgents of various stripes have now factored the U.S. media into their calculations they are in fact bouncing their view of Iraq into Americans homes via the mainstream media. "

It's deja vu of Viet Nam. Ho Chi Min made no bones about how he  used the US media to demorilize Americans into thinking they were loosing, when, in fact, we were winning.

The Democrats, using these media accounts, then began defunding the war. It was a coup for Ho Chi Min.

ABOUT TIME!!!!!! That is the

ABOUT TIME!!!!!!
That is the way you do it. Go right to the heart of the matter. The AP has been getting away with fabrication of news for to damn long now. I want to see the people of this pitiful excuse of a press agency be held accountible for the atrosities and lies they have printed . What be interesting would be able to look and see how people have been hurt or killed because of their stupidity.
You Keep up the good work Mr. Steyn.

The new world order is in power. God help us all.  Airforce_5_O, 2330, November 7, 2006

MSM should be fighting to talk to Steyn

If the MSM had any interest in serving the public in an unbiased manner - in providing to the viewer and reader an open airing of views from both sides, they would be fighting to get Mark Steyn on the air for debate on these issues.

Russert, Steph, Williams, Matthews, Mitchell, Couric - you folks feel like acting like journalists for a few minutes?

Now THAT'S entertainment

Steyn: "No. Because I believe that the majority of American newspapers which is full of Associated Press content on the central issue of our time they are either dupes at best or actually semi-treasonous and colluding with the enemy and demoralizing America on the home front, including having agents of the enemy on their payroll. This is a disgraceful organization."

Now THAT'S entertainment.......

"We even had some leftist politicos from Berkeley ranting, the only bring-down of the day.'  Phil Lesh, Grateful Dead - Searching for the Sound

I wonder if the AP will carry

I wonder if the AP will carry this story?

http://sacredscoop.com

Steyn hit the nail on the head...

Steyn hit the nail on the head when he said, "They want Bush to lose and I think they don't understand that around the world it will be seen not as a defeat for Bush and Cheney and Rummy and the gang but a defeat for America."

I love his writing btw. Everyone should read his latest book (if you haven't already).

The Liberals have repeatedly

The Liberals have repeatedly made it absolutely clear that they see this war as another "Vietnam" and President Bush as another "Nixon".  Now its just a matter of them finding their "Tet" to demoralize America, their "Watergate" to bring down the President.  In the meantime, they get their jollies by doing the only things that they know how to do, namely argue and agitate, criticize and complain, bitch and moan.  They are genetically unable to simply be Americans and report the news.  These self-indulgent adolescent adults do not care, cannot imagine that a defeat for America could have profoundly catastrophic Economic and National Security consequences.

Semi-Treasonous?Actually, I b

Semi-treasonous?I believe cer

Semi-treasonous?

I believe certain elements of the MSM passed this point several years ago.

Steyn then made it clear what the real media desire is: “They want Bush to lose and I think they don't understand that around the world it will be seen not as a defeat for Bush and Cheney and Rummy and the gang but a defeat for America.”

This is what I have been screaming for the last several years.  In the MSM's zeal to "bag" yet another republican president, they appear more than willing to sacrifce this country (and all of us along with it) in the process. Are all of the members of the MSM so obtuse as to not see the danger their actions are putting this country in?

Do they even care?

The sad truth is, that it is

The sad truth is, that it is correct to say the MSM is so blinded by democratic and socialist partisans, and the majority of the MSM is now socialist or out right communist, that they would gladly sacrifice this country to ruin a conservative President. Or to ruin a conservative. Any conservative. They know perfectly well what they are trying to do. And, I belive, they know they are guilty of treason, and they also know that noone has the gumption to hold them accountable for it. If they are called and ham strung for it, it will be the population that will do it. The courts and the politicians havent the courage.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Semi-treasonous? Either you

Semi-treasonous? Either you are or you are not.

Conservatives have been spewing this treasonous bile for over 3 years now. With conservatives in charge of the Department of Justice, why haven't any charges been filed against all these 'people who hate America'?

Could it just be a way for conservatives to hide their inept handling of the reigns of power? It is either that or they are afraid to take this stuff to court because they would have to PROVE it.

Three things. First you ar

Three things. First you are right, President Bush should have taken action against traitors and let these traitors be tried in a fair trial, that is how it is done. Second, you are wrong, it is free speech and we have hold the right to label people as we see fit...you can disagree, you can plug your ears, but we can still say it. Third, it is possible to be not found guilty, but still be a dirt bag, as in the case of the AP being "semi-treasonous" (OJ Simpson comes to mind)

"With conservatives in c

"With conservatives in charge of the Department of Justice,..."

Say what? Aren't you aware that the DOJ is staffed mainly by "lifers," many of whom are hold-overs from the Clinton years?

Why else would this "conservative-controlled" DOJ have spent 3 years trying to find out who "outed" desk-jockey Valerie Plame (no "field agent" she), going after Cheney hopefully, working hard on the "perp walk" for Karl Rove,  then "Scooter" Libby, only to completely drop the whole thing when it was finally admitted that they KNEW it was Richard Armitage practically from day one? And he was another Clinton hold-over in the State Department! Where's Armitage's "perp walk," hmm??? Why is this suddenly not a "big deal," now that it WASN'T a Bush official? Yeah, that's sure some head-hunting "conservative" DOJ, isn't it?

A better question is, why is there absolutely NO CONCERN in this "conservative" DOJ about all the leaks of classified material that have appeared in the MSM over the past couple years, huh? A bit more important than the supposed "outing" of a chair-warmer at the CIA, IMO. Especially since said "outing" has suddenly dropped completely off the radar...or hadn't you noticed THAT?

Joe, while that's true, I t

Joe, while that's true, I think it's also instructive to consider the type of person who, upon graduating law school, seeks a job in the DOJ under either Republicans or Democrats. It's not the same kind of lawyer who goes off into private practice trying to save the world in his own lawyer-way -- those usually tend to distrust the government instinctively, regardless of political party label. The kind of lawyer who goes into DOJ/prosecution work is more like a Rudy Giulianni type, and is often interested in eventually getting into politics & political power. Generally these lawyers tend to be more of a control-freak-biased kind of individual who tends, because he/she wants to work for it, to trust the state implicitly, regardless of political party label.
JMR

Well, sarc, as to the type of

Well, sarc, as to the type of lawyer in DOJ, I can't argue with your reasoning. Policy-wonk wannabes, I'm sure. But I still think they carry their affiliation with them to some extent. And, like most lawyers, that slant seems to be leftward.

How  else explain the desire for a high-level Republican head, yet no interest in someone like Armitage, to the point where the difference is so blatant? I mean, they may as well have held a press conference announcing "Well, since it was Armitage, we're just dropping it."

I think the same "slant" accounts for the complete lack of interest in finding the source of the leaks. These "lifers" are fully expecting to be working with a Democrat administration in a couple of years, IMHO, and don't see having a Democrat scalp on their belts as an asset.

To expect them to go after anyone but a Republican, at this point in time, and with this type of recent history, is nearly laughable. Some targets are more "in-season" than others. That's all I was replying to in that post above about the "conservative-controlled" DOJ. The assumption that a Republican administration automatically means a Republican-controlled DOJ.

(P.S.  damned insomnia!!!)