More Media Bait and Switch: Let’s Send Additional Troops to Iraq Instead of Withdrawal

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It’s almost becoming a daily occurrence now, isn’t it? Another major media outlet has confirmed that all the pre-election blather concerning a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq if Democrats took over Congress was just another part of that Party’s elaborate bait and switch scheme. This time on its knees in the confessional was Newsweek (hat tip to NB member “aero”), and none other than two of its crack investigative reporters, Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball (emphasis mine throughout):

In a surprise twist in the debate over Iraq, Rep. Silvestre Reyes, the soon-to-be chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said he wants to see an increase of 20,000 to 30,000 U.S. troops as part of a stepped up effort to “dismantle the militias.”

Excuse me? Wasn’t this man appointed by incoming Speaker Nancy Pelosi who went around the country promising voters that troops would be withdrawn from Iraq if Democrats won and she became Speaker? Are you kidding me? Shouldn’t this evoke tremendous anger from the writers at Newsweek? Au contraire:

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The soft-spoken Texas Democrat was an early opponent of the Iraq war and voted against the October 2002 resolution authorizing President Bush to invade that country. That dovish record got prominently cited last week when Speaker-designate Nancy Pelosi chose Reyes as the new head of the intelligence panel.

But in an interview with NEWSWEEK on Tuesday, Reyes pointedly distanced himself from many of his Democratic colleagues who have called for fixed timetables for the withdrawal of U.S. troops. Coming on the eve of tomorrow’s recommendations from the bipartisan Baker-Hamilton commission, Reyes’s comments were immediately cited by some Iraq war analysts as fresh evidence that the intense debate over U.S. policy may be more fluid than many have expected.

Amazing, huh? But it gets better:

We’re not going to have stability in Iraq until we eliminate those militias, those private armies,” Reyes said. “We have to consider the need for additional troops to be in Iraq, to take out the militias and stabilize Iraq … We certainly can’t leave Iraq and run the risk that it becomes [like] Afghanistan” was before the 2001 invasion by the United States.

Reyes also stressed that there needed to be greater “political accountability” demanded of the Iraqi government. But on the core issue of the U.S. commitment, Reyes—a Vietnam War veteran who partially lost his hearing in that conflict—even compared his position to that of another Vietnam vet, Sen. John McCain, a staunch supporter of the Iraq war. Like Reyes, McCain also has called for an increase in U.S. troop strength. When asked how many additional troops he envisioned sending to Iraq, Reyes replied: “I would say 20,000 to 30,000—for the specific purpose of making sure those militias are dismantled, working in concert with the Iraqi military.”

Unbelievable. But it gets even better:

When a reporter suggested that was not a position that was likely to be popular with many House Democrats, Reyes replied: “Well again, I differ in that I don’t want Iraq to become the next Afghanistan. We could not allow Iraq to become a safe haven for Al Qaeda, for Hamas, for Hizbullah, or anybody else. We cannot allow Iran or Syria to have a free hand in there to further destabilize the Middle East.”

Hmmm. He almost sounds like President Bush, doesn’t he? But there was more:

Reyes added that he was “very clear” about his position to Pelosi when she chose him over two rivals—Rep. Jane Harman of California and Rep. Alcee Hastings—to head the critical intelligence post. One widely cited reason that Harman, a moderate Democrat who supported the war, didn’t get the nod from Pelosi is that the Speaker-designate wanted somebody who would be more aggressive in standing up to the Bush White House—which Reyes promises to be on other issues like domestic wiretapping and CIA secret prisons.

But when asked what he told Pelosi about his thinking on Iraq, Reyes replied: “What I said was, we can’t afford to leave there. And anybody who says, we are going pull out our troops immediately, is being dishonest … We’re all interested in getting out of Iraq. That’s a common goal. How we do it, I think, is the tough part. There are those that say, they don’t care what Iraq looks like once we leave there. Let’s just leave there. And I argue against that. I don’t think that’s responsible. And I think it plays right into the hands of Syria and Iran.”

Absolutely extraordinary. Now, just imagine if Newsweek, or any other media outlet would have done some investigative reporting before the elections, and had informed the public that this would be the position of the incoming new chairman of the House Intelligence Committee picked by Nancy Pelosi. Might that have impacted the votes of folks whose primary motivation was to get the troops home? After all, 29 percent of voters on November 7 claimed that they wanted all troops withdrawn. Of these, 82 percent voted for Democrats. Might this have been different if the media would have told the truth rather than participated in this immoral bait and switch?

How disgraceful.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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"The gods look down and

"The gods look down and laugh" - Groucho Marx

Noel

A thought: perhaps voters were voting for a different direction in the war, not for cut-and-run as everyone on the right characterized the left? And that's not a rhetorical question, I'm asking.

bal,Sorry, but the new owners

bal,

Sorry, but the new owners of the democratic party paid for a policy of surrender and cut and run (or was it cut and run then surrender?-sorry, I get confused). They didn't get their money's worth and they are fit to be tied.

Have you seen what Michael Moore has been saying recently?

Yeah, I know there are thos

Yeah, I know there are those out there that believed they were voting for a complete pull out, but I never thought I was. I just wanted a new look, new perspective.

Balboa, either you live in a

Balboa, either you live in a very small, tiny box and have no contact with the outside world, or you a one pathetic liar! 

Car Levin, John Kerry, Pelosi, Murtha, etc, etc, all campaigned and said that they would redeploy American troops in Iraq to other places in the world within 4 to 6 months! 

You were either fooled, or a plain old liar when you claim that Democrats didn't campaign on complete pull out! 

Once again, you are the knight in shining armor for the media and the Democrats.  Defend them at all cost, who cares if they lied to the American people, right Balboa?

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

I'm a pathetic liar.

I'm a pathetic liar.

and balboa

and balboa, you have amnesia

Who's Balboa?

Who's Balboa?

An old and ancient boxing cha

An old and ancient boxing character?????

Balboa, I have never doubted

Balboa, I have never doubted that you are one dumb, pathetic liar. 

So did you cover your ears when Murtha, kerry, kennedy, pelosi, etc, etc went all over the USA before the elections calling for the troops to be withdrawn from Iraq within 4 to 6 months? 

I mean, how can you, worthless Liberlas live with your stupidity?  how can you justify the bait and switch from your Democrat buddies and your media darlings? 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

Probably the same way you g

Probably the same way you guys handled it when Bush said Rumsfeld would be here till the end and then...[poof].

Balboa, I have never doubted that you are one dumb, pathetic liar.

Aw...Merry Christmas, snookems.

Unlike you worthless Liberals

Unlike you worthless Liberals, I hold the people I vote into office to high standards, and Bush lied, yes LIED when he promised that Rumsfeld would stay in office.  I can admit that much. 

You are such a dumb, pathetic liar and such a knight in shining armor for the Democrats and the media that you can't ever admit when they lie. 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

They lie all the time. I ha

They lie all the time. I have no problem admitting that.

Happy Hannukah?

Also the difference is that I

Also the difference is that I have yet to hear ONE conservative or Republican defend Bush for lying to us about Rumsfeld.  In fact what I have heard is....why didn't Bush do this sooner and why did he tell the American people one thing and then do another? 

We on the right hold our elected politicians to much higher standards and we expect a lot from our elected politicians.  You dumb liars on the left know that your party is full of pathetic fools and you guys expect nothing from the Democrats you put in office. 

It is also nice to see that you are finally admiting that the Democrats lied. 

do you see how you just contradicted yourself?  i doubt it, you are too dumb and too Democrat to notice.

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

Balboa

B,

<buzzer sound> No. 29 percent wanted an immediate withdrawal. Of that, 82 percent voted for Democrats. This was the issue the Dems pushed, and it turns out -- as many of us felt -- it was all a lie. I hope you weren't part of those scammed.  ns

All we heard from the Dems si

All we heard from the Dems since 2004 was "pull out" "re-deploy to Taiwan" "bring the troops home"  yada yada yada...

Now they suggest we INCREASE the number of troops and you're saying this is what they meant all along?  Or at least what they could have meant by "new direction", or, even more inexplicably, that the voters thought the Dems would be even more hawkish?????? 

You're either joking or you're insane. 

LOL! The Dems originally bait

LOL! The Dems originally baited voters with what seemed to be an immediate or very quick withdrawal, and then switched it immediately after the election to what sounded like a longer, more drawn-out and cautious retreat. Now, just a couple of weeks later, it sounds like the switch is from immediate withdrawal to more troops. Based on this trend, by January they'll have switched from immediate withdrawal to nuke-em-til-they-glow!

I'd definitely say that this is not what many of those who voted for the Dems thought they were voting for! My liberal acquaintances are more than a little flummoxed, and they're not uneducated rubes.

I think that sensible voter

I think that sensible voters shouldn't have ever thought the Dems would pull out the troops immediately. Believing a campaign promise? Problem #1. I never thought that's what they'd do because it would have been insane.

So Balboa, you voted for Demo

So Balboa, you voted for Democrats even though you knew that they weren't going to keep any of their campaign promised? 

wow, you are a real "winner".  No wonder Democrats hadn't won any major elections from 1994 until this last election.  With voters like you, I truly pity the future of the Democrat party.

I mean think about what you just said, that you voted for individuals that YOU KNEW WERE NOT GOING TO KEEP THEIR CAMPAING PROMISE!  Is this how low you think of your Democrat Party? 

I expect and demand that the people I voted into a government office keep their campaign promised, otherwise, i vote them out of office next time around. 

But I understand, we can't hold too high of a standard for the corrput and amoral Democrat Party. 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

&quot;No. New. Taxes.&quot;

"No. New. Taxes."

Yes Balboa, Bush 41 promised

Yes Balboa, Bush 41 promised no new taxes and did we re-elect him to the Presidency? 

Of course not! 

You have pedophiles in your party and they get re-elected and put in positions of power in your party. 

see the difference dumb liar?

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

I can't see the difference

I can't see the difference because I'm a dumb liar. Your brilliance is blinding my brain.

Balboa, thanks for admitting

Balboa, thanks for admitting that my intellect is superior to yours.  It is a step closer to admitting you are one uneducated fool.  It has taken you a long time to come to this moment, but you have finally made it. 

now, explain to all of us here why individuals like you vote for Democrats who are pedophiles into office over and over again and your party keeps on putting them in positions of power. 

I take it you'll answer that your brain is too small to be able to answer this question, correct? 

Your problem Balboa is that you pretend to be a Democrat centrist, but I don't think you even know what a Democrat centrist stands for.  You are also incapable of being honest with yourself and with others.  You need to lie to yourself to justify your amoral behavior and your vote for a corrupt, amoral, anti-american, anti-miliarty party. 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

LOL! Since when are Democrati

LOL! You amuse me, balboa. You've made me literally laugh out loud twice in this thread! Since when are Democratic party policies and insanity mutually exclusive? Lots and lots of voters obviously believed what the Dems said and implied about a quick withrawal from Iraq, insane or not. As for "sensible voters," as you called them, they did not vote for Democrats. ;-)

Bal, You Seem Somewhat Intelligent

I have read your posts for past couple of months and I knew you were more towards the center than left. I still think you are intelligent, so I can only think that you are either naive or uninformed about your party.

I pay close attention to what leadership says they will do when they take power. They may use buzz words and phrases, but if you pay attention, you can see through the lies. The Democrats leadership, as usuall, was speaking out of both sides of its mouth. "We are doing to redeploy the Troops home as soon as possible" was coming out of one side while "Victory in Iraq must be secured." was coming out of the other. Either way, they were playing to all of their constituents with these statements and did it on purpose.

They have told us very pointedly that they plan on raising taxes, "Bush's tax cuts are hurting the poor and letting the rich get away with making even more money." Yet they will never tell you what their definition of rich is: guess what, they consider a cop and a nurse husband and wife team to be rich (yes, $120,000 dollars per year is rich).

A man once said that it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you are a fool than opening it and confirming that you are.

I know that is what the dem

I know that is what the democrats said before the election. But I don't think they really planned on pulling the troops out immediately.

Lying to Get Votes Balboa not conducive to cooperation

How can you create trust when you blatantly lie to get votes? How can you ask for cooperation across the aisle when no one can trust you? All this will do is cause more cannabalistic frenzies like the one the Dems pulled on Leiberman. Left-tard zealots will not accept this. The only good thing that might come out of this is if all of the conservative Dems came over after having been chewed on the extreme left of your party.

Who knows. But I'm sure the

Who knows. But I'm sure the congressmen know who they can trust and who they can't across the aisle. The left-tard zealots might not like it, but maybe it will present an opportunity for the more sane voices to tell them to pipe down.

Balboa, your political ignora

Balboa, your political ignorance is so expected from you. 

The Democrat party as it i exists right now is in control of the left wing zealots and retards.  The sane voices in the Democrat party are being pushed out....heard of Liberman my ignorant buddy?  heard of Zel Miller? 

This is the problem that the Democrats have, especially in the Senate.  Liberman has said that if he feels that he is being completly ignored and marginalized by the Dems and if he feels that the Dems are taking radical steps against the war against terrorism, which includes the war in Iraq, he would become a Republican.  If Liberman switches party, guess what, Republicans will control the Senate and step all over the House. 

So, i believe Dems will try to appease Liberman, but the party is still controlled by left wing nutjobs like Pelosi, Murtha, Kennedy, Kerry, Edwards, etc, etc.  The centrist in the Dem party are considered a decease by the left wing base. 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

Brilliance...too...bright..

Brilliance...too...bright...can't....think...

you amuse me little Balboa...

you amuse me little Balboa....I know that my superior intellect and my brilliance is too much for a dumb Democrat like you to handle. 

Just stop posting and let me keep on schooling and educating you like I have since the first time I corrected your stupity and ignorance. 

you know what your true problem is Balboa?  that you are Balboa.  It must suck for you to wake up each morning and find out that you are still you.  I pity ignorant Democrats like you, and yes, I look down upon Democrats like you because you are worst than the left wing zealots.  If Democrats like you spoke out very loud against the left wing zealots in your party instead of excusing them and being their knight in shining armor, your party would be more like the Democrat Party that elected JFK, FDR, Harry Truman, etc.  Your party is as of right controlled by anti-american and anti-military forces and misinformed, uneducated Democrats like you, could careless.  All you care about is yourself and how YOU live, you could care less about anyone else around you. 

Selfish yuppies like you, who vote Democrat is the problem that your party and America has. 

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

So when do you join the thi

So when do you join the thinktank? Before or after you become Pope?

The Problem with the Big Tent

The Democrat big tent is about to fall apart due to the increasing tension of having so many competing ideologies under one roof. The problem is that the Dems wish to appeal to everyone and in the process stand for nothing. That is why the zealots have taken charge. The only possible good that can come out of this is that the conservatives will come together and rule as we should.

It's ok, balboa knew they were lying the whole time

It's ok, balboa knew they were lying the whole time(but never said so here). So did Kossomakookoos(but never said so there), and the other assorted airhead merikkka crowd of wailing infants(never said so either)(and neither did the libnews). They'ell get their open borders and amnesty in place, and so the big fat lies repeated ten thousand times shriekd and screamed in our faces for years are all to the good.

When the big bombs go off, the kosococoamakookoos can say Bush wanted all the inner city dems destroyed and thoughtpolice and freedymeeks can shriek with the truthers ' there they go again'.

In the end the lying gasbag demonrats can collude again with the 95% lib news agencies and tell us several more years of gigantic lies, then pull another kerry flipflop and pretend nothing of the sort ever happened. balbumbler will back them up 100%, and make some smart remarks to deflect appropriate criticism for his lies, slander, and changing of the diapers. In the meant time, and for the next two years, they can all scream endlessly Bush lied us into Iraq, and present absolutely zero evidence to the effect, but when the sin of omission coupled with BDS is ruling the emotional wacko party, nothing stands in the way.

Thanks to balboa we know his prediction after the fact. I guess reverso nostradamii ex post libbo lie reality hits a little too late for a Cleo call or the daily horoscope, but the 20/20 dems always come thru in the end. Gosh, why is it I still don't believe them. LOL

Sportspolitics, well said!&qu

Sportspolitics,

well said!

"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers.  Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton

 

Noel

Noel,

As you know, I'm following this aspect of the election's aftermath with great interest. One thing I'm noticing is, as you pointed out, the MSM is not acting particularly outraged about the Iraq withdrawal bait-and-switch. They're not really pointing it out as a campaign lie and not whipping up public outrage about it like Michael Moore is trying to do. But on the other hand, the MSM is not really covering for the Dems' switch, either. Instead of saying that "new developments" show that it wouldn't be a good idea to leave Iraq too soon, they're labeling it a civil war, wondering if Bush will "listen," and having orgasms over the ISG's defeatism--all evidence that the MSM still thinks withdrawing sooner rather than later is the way to go, even if the Dem leadership is backpedaling like mad.

As I wrote in another comment somewhere, I think the MSM will eventually come around and start really covering for the Dems and following the Dem talking points again. But in the meantime, it sorta seems like the MSM is going to spank them for awhile first. Just not too badly, I guess, since they're not quite going as far as to call them on the carpet. Just not covering their retreat as much as I'm sure the Dems would like.

There is no way the MSM is go

There is no way the MSM is going to ride the dims too hard over this.  While they managed to gain control of the congress come January, it really doesn't allow them to go too far overboard until they get one of their own in the oval office. The one who truly runs the dim show, HRC, has enough vision to realize that she, or any other dim, will need their party to control congress after the '08 election.

The Kos crowd is way too short-sighted to really see this, as the Joe Lieberman debacle proved.  It's amazing to me that the so-called enlightened beings over there didn't see that one coming from ten miles away.  Most everyone else did.

I'm sure Hillary has let it be known that she will tolerate no foolishness in the meantime.

&quot;More Media Bait and Swi

"More Media Bait and Switch: Let’s Send Additional Troops to Iraq Instead of Withdrawal"

The MSM and Democrats (one in the same) are now looking like used car salesmen.

Best Used Car Salesman ever

are now looking like used car salesmen.

In my opinion Roy L Fuchs arguably the greatest used car salesman of all time sums it up pretty good.

"I'll tell you something. This country is going to the dogs. You know, it used to be when you bought a politician, that s.o.b. stayed bought"  Roy L Fuchs

What happened to the control

What happened to the control Pelosi had.  It seems to me that this is making her appear inadequate before she even takes the oath.  They said they would push for pulling out of Iraq and now their calling for more troops.  They said they would try to get a tax cut for the middle class and two days after the election  they were talking about increasing the taxes on the middle class.  They are doing a great job setting up for 08'.

Ohhhh...this just keeps on ge

Ohhhh...this just keeps on getting better and better...he he he....Dems, the gift that keeps on giving....

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Bass, Where do I get my shot to cure the Dem STD?

Dude, where is the line to get my shot to stop the Dem STD? And is there something we can put into the water supply to cure everyone?

PSP...I have no idea. But, if

PSP...I have no idea. But, if we put Mercury into the Boston water supply, that will make a good start...:-)

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Somebody wake up Mr. Murtha,

Somebody wake up Mr. Murtha, please...

Look in the background -It's Mighty Murtha!

Just a side note... Check out Murtha in the background. He is either passing gas or asleep. He must be asleep. He's the one who said we can't win and must redeploy to Guam. So he's there while they announce a possible troop increase???

HR Jenks

Yes, abscam mouseman is bowing his head in shame, but it's not because he helped pimp the lie. He has to meet with Michael Moore, who already threatened to take down the dems, and bugeyed Mouli the k-nut. It's regression digression session egress time for the progressive poopy liars.