CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, is well known for bashing those who bash Islam or those who associate it with terrorism. Now they are attacking conservative columnist and radio talker Dennis Prager. Reports the AP:
An Islamic civil rights group wants a columnist removed from the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council for criticizing Rep.-elect Keith Ellison's decision to use the Quran during his ceremonial swearing-in next month.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations said Monday that comments by Dennis Prager, a columnist and conservative talk radio host, displayed an intolerance toward Islam that makes him inappropriate to serve on the council, which oversees the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.
Prager's remark:
"Insofar as a member of Congress taking an oath to serve America and uphold its values is concerned, America is interested in only one book, the Bible. If you are incapable of taking an oath on that book, don't serve in Congress."
Says Nihad Awad, CAIR's executive director:
"No one who holds such bigoted, intolerant and divisive views should be in a policymaking position at a taxpayer-funded institution that seeks to educate Americans about the destructive impact hatred has had, and continues to have, on every society."
Prager said there was a way to fix the problem:
Ellison bringing a Bible with him along with his Quran.
"The issue has never been one of religious freedom or attitudes toward Islam," added Prager, who is Jewish. "The issue has been from the outset honoring the most important text of American history."
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I guess the 21 suicide bomber
December 5, 2006 - 13:35 ET by Airforce_5_OI guess the 21 suicide bomber salute is out too.
The new world order is in power. God help us all. Airforce_5_O, 2330, November 7, 2006
This is the funniest, lol pos
December 5, 2006 - 21:52 ET by kathleenirishThis is the funniest, lol post I have read in a long time.
Thanks for the laugh.
Too true, and too sad, unfortunately.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
Jeez, what would happen if Je
December 5, 2006 - 13:48 ET by fosstenJeez, what would happen if Jerry Falwell or Al Mohler called for the removal of everybody in Government who bashed Christians? Imagine the outrage!
Nobody criticizes Islam and gets away with it. Allahu Akbar!
..
December 5, 2006 - 18:01 ET by ww thumper.....Political correctness when dealing with Islam will kill america....ww .....
When will CAIR call for the e
December 5, 2006 - 13:51 ET by FastEdWhen will CAIR call for the end of corrupt Islam? When will they speak out against those who have mis-used the teachings they hold so dear? When will they call for the end of the religious war in Iraq? When should I stop holding my breath?
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I'm a American conservative e
December 5, 2006 - 13:58 ET by TruthMongerI'm a American conservative evangelical Christian and I have no problem with this. Is it really going to kill us to have the guy take his oath on the Holy Koran? Muslims are incredibly decent and God fearing people. We should be welcoming and celebrating their growing prominence here...
Again what is it with this American Islamophobia? Muslims probably have more in common with Christians than Jews do - they revere Jesus and the Virgin Mary for a start...
Is it really worth all the bad PR that will result versus the drastically needed postive PR we might be able to attain here? Very sad...
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As far as i am concerned he c
December 5, 2006 - 14:02 ET by Dan The Man 2As far as i am concerned he can swear his oath on a box of cracker jacks, what I am concerned with if he recognizes the USA soveriegnity and symbols. Does he take the oath seriously and love the USA to protect her from foriegn and domestic enemies?
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
...fine - and as far as we k
December 5, 2006 - 14:04 ET by TruthMonger...fine - and as far as we know that's still part of the oath...
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As he is a liberal Democrat,
December 5, 2006 - 21:48 ET by richflanjAs he is a liberal Democrat, I find that HIGHLY unlikely that he will recognize the USA's sovereignty and symbols, that he would take any oath seriously, or that he loves the USA and/or would protect her from any foreign or domestic enemy.
"The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously." --Hubert Humphrey
TM - it's not the PR, it's th
December 5, 2006 - 14:05 ET by FastEdTM - it's not the PR, it's the idea that one group want to oversee and push an agenda, maybe innocent, but by a group that doesn't condem people who have basterdized the religion for political means. Additioinally, Islam has no room for contrition, hence no need to be sorry. Finally, if Islam were so worldreaching as they want to become, why was there no islamic references by the founding fathers?
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I believe the founders referr
December 5, 2006 - 14:14 ET by TruthMongerI believe the founders referred to the God of Abraham - just like the Muslims do?
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TM,I highly suggest you read
December 5, 2006 - 14:19 ET by Dave RTM,
I highly suggest you read a book called The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam. It does a pretty fair job of doing a side-by-side comparison of Islam and Christianity. It also blows away much of the camel crap that the Muslims have been cramming down our throats.
It is a very enlightening book.
I prefer to meet face-to-face
December 5, 2006 - 14:21 ET by TruthMongerI prefer to meet face-to-face with Muslims and work with them directly for now - but I'll put it on the 2do list! You might want to try it yourself...
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like???
December 5, 2006 - 15:13 ET by misterbillYa mean meet 'em like Jimmah Cahtuh?? Behind the gov'ts back and against current administration objectives?????
Dave R ..That is an excelle
December 5, 2006 - 18:08 ET by ww thumperDave R ..That is an excellent book! Read it if you can get it people; it is good. It don't "slam" Islam , it does explain the real differences between them. .....Political correctness when dealing with Islam will kill america....ww .....
Why'd you forget the Jews?The
December 5, 2006 - 14:19 ET by FastEdWhy'd you forget the Jews?
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How did I forget the Jews...?
December 5, 2006 - 14:22 ET by TruthMongerHow did I forget the Jews...?
they revere Jesus and the V
December 5, 2006 - 14:06 ET by Jack Bauerthey revere Jesus and the Virgin Mary for a start...
TM -- you are, of course, entitled to treat other religions as your faith dictates. However, that line of yours simply ain't true.
That's one of those mis-statements that Muslims like to tell to bamboozle Christians.
As I understand it, the "Jesus" they recognize is not the Jesus, Christians recognize as the Son of God.
Indeed, Muslims consider the idea that Jesus is the son of God to be "blasphemy". You know what they do to blasphemers?
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...I can only go on what the
December 5, 2006 - 14:12 ET by TruthMonger...I can only go on what the Muslims tell me - and vice versa - by the way the Jews have a similar line of thinking that you describe about the sin of declaring Jesus the Messiah...and they're supposed to stone sinners to death...so what do the Muslims do again : )?
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. .and most of that stoning
December 5, 2006 - 14:16 ET by FastEd. .and most of that stoning by the Jews stopped some time ago, followers of Christ were stoned, some time ago, while Muslims still use the stone as verdict. So who is still in the 13th century?
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...it's still a part of the o
December 5, 2006 - 14:19 ET by TruthMonger...it's still a part of the official Jewish law - but like with the Jews the Muslims are also becoming much more moderate - and this nitpicking about the Koran isn't exactly helping them along much faster...
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Their moderation still hasn't
December 5, 2006 - 14:25 ET by FastEdTheir moderation still hasn't gotten them to speak out against those who have taken over their religion and use it as a tool of terror. When the rest of the world's religions have apologized for wrongs against others, why haven't the Muslims apologized for the behavior of the "few" who attack the innocent?
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...so let's welcome Muslims
December 5, 2006 - 14:35 ET by TruthMonger...so let's welcome Muslims here and get some dialogue going about that - and is this Koran oath incident encouraging that sort of thing?
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No problem or argument from m
December 5, 2006 - 14:40 ET by FastEdNo problem or argument from me - but if you remember it took about 2 days to round up thousands for the anti-immigration rallies - who long do we have to wait for the anti-terror rallies? Where's the outrage against terror from the group most affected?
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I agree that terrorists get a
December 5, 2006 - 14:48 ET by TruthMongerI agree that terrorists get a free pass these days - while decent and courageous individuals like President Bush are labeled as "Hitler" and it is absolutely infuriating and outrageous...
But these terrorist are not Muslims, just like the Nazi's weren't representative of Christianity - although they very much claimed to be...
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just like the Nazi's weren't
December 5, 2006 - 15:44 ET by Carl Kolchakjust like the Nazi's weren't representative of Christianity - although they very much claimed to be...
The whole concept of the blonde haired blue eyed Arryan super race I believe came from the Thule Society. The Nazis were heavily into the occult and had luanched campaigns trying to find occult items.
You make some good points about trying to learn more about others and trying to communicate. Some of my co-workers are from Morroco and are Muslim and they are really cool people. There is a young boy in my neighborhood from there as well, and he is one of the coolest kids in the neighborhood. Sometimes I watch all the kids play together, and realize that none of them seem to care about any differences, and then realize that once they get older their whole concept of thinking will probably change about how they view others in the world. I was fortunate to spend my first 18 years growing up on military bases. On military bases you have all different types of nationalities, races, and religions. You really have to learn to get along with other people, or else you'll find yourself very isolated.
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dear Carl:
December 5, 2006 - 16:03 ET by tumblerMy sister-in-law almost married an Iranian. He was very nice. A cordial, handsome, intelligent Muslim. She's Catholic, very devout, and now married to a naturalized Mexican.
She was very much in love with the Muslim, and he asked her to marry him. It was all set, until the question was raised. The children will be raised as Catholics. No-- they have to be Muslims. He would not HEAR of his sons ever being other than Muslims. This was in California, not Iran. Well; she damn near caved to him, and would've gone with him.
But I made my wife assert herself and warn the girl. You can't sell out your faith. My wife wasn't keen on interfering. But I prevailed on her. She convinced Sis-in-law. now she's happily married in the Catholic Church. They've raised FIVE lovely kids. One is at the best Catholic prep school in San Diego and appears to have a vocation to the priesthood. Another is a girl; who plays violin for the SD Youth Symphony;
On the violin me & my wife purchased for her. It's an imported violin, GORGEOUS; made in Romania. (I love to tell that part of the story! There's a lot more, but I'll spare you.)
tumbler...GOOD for your sis
December 5, 2006 - 18:17 ET by ww thumpertumbler...GOOD for your sister-in-law!! :-) She should Praise GOD every day for not marrying that Islamist! Not a good thing to do, as women are not any more valuable than a dog or a camel , over there. .....Political correctness when dealing with Islam will kill america....ww .....
muslims tell you
December 5, 2006 - 14:23 ET by tumblerEven Muslims you wouldn't call extremist have a different idea of Jesus than ours. First, Jesus isn't the only-begotten Son of God. Not in their religion. He's a prophet; and a holy man, because He's ISLAMIC.
Thus it follows, to them, He is no Messiah. Because that means He was promised to the Israelites, or Jews. (Not kosher, for a Muslim.) Also; Muhammad taught them --I guess; that Jesus didn't even DIE on the cross. He lived, and later on ascended to heaven, somewhat like Muhammad went up. So, He isn't a Redeemer. Yes, they believe Mary is a virgin. An Islamic Virgin Mary, you see. A few years ago, I disputed these things with a trio of practicing Muslims on the precursor of www.catholicbulletin... / When I had the temerity to say Muhammad was a false prophet as prophesied to come by Jesus; they lost it and began to revile me as a monkey, a pig; all the endearing terms they use against "infidels." These were Muslims who live in OUR country; young ones, it seemed.
...well it's great that you
December 5, 2006 - 14:44 ET by TruthMonger...well it's great that you tried some dialogue - we really need dialogue - but respectful dialogue is the key - this is very delicate, cross-cultural stuff - something with which we Americans aren't so adept at to be frank...
Terrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christians, etc, etc...
tumbler -- Normally, I refr
December 5, 2006 - 14:51 ET by Jack Bauertumbler -- Normally, I refrain from getting in the middle of religious arguments...
But surly all Christians MUST believe Mohammed is a false prophet.
How can there be genuine dialogue over religion when the very idea of Mohammed denies the fundamental faith of Christians.
That God's son, Jesus Christ died on the cross for our sins, then rose from the dead three days later, and that all who believe in him will have everlasting life at his side in Heaven.
That's pretty set in stone isn't it? It truly does offend me to see the western media constantly refer to the "prophet" Mohammed. Sure ain't no prophet to me.
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We can make some powerful ges
December 5, 2006 - 14:58 ET by TruthMongerWe can make some powerful gestures here, jack...just like Jesus did...
"If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (cf. 2 Corinthians 11:20).
In the eastern culture slapping someone is considered an insult of the highest order. But Jesus says that His disciples should gladly be willing to endure the insult again and again...
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True, but then Mark said,
December 5, 2006 - 15:08 ET by Jack BauerTrue, but then Mark said, "Go ye into ALL the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature."
I wouldn't recommend that in most countries under the sway of Islam. Unfortunately.
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...well it wasn't so rosy for
December 5, 2006 - 15:30 ET by TruthMonger...well it wasn't so rosy for Jesus that's for sure...comes with the job, I guess...
Matthew 10:38 "And he that taketh not his cross, and follow not after me, is not worthy of me."
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I hear ya, Jack
December 5, 2006 - 15:06 ET by tumblerYeah; and whenever the media guys embedded within our coalition soldiers made mention of the Iraqi cities, it was as "The Holy City of This or That." All the while their imams are calling me & you and America "The Great Satan".
Sure, dialogue is essential; to stop the bleeding. But as a religious understanding? Absurd.
I have the bare foundations of biblical scholarship, but-- When a fanatical horde denies the divine Sonship of Our Lord, they deny the Father & the Son. This is a huge negative, since that's one description of the Ant-christ prophesied in the end-time. Antichrist will deny the father and the Son. It would make Islam suspect; if applicable.
"Holy Cities" Oh
December 5, 2006 - 15:16 ET by Jack Bauer"Holy Cities"
Oh yeah, that's like a running joke. Is there dump in Iraq that isn't a "Holy City."
One of the holiest cities on earth is Rome. Ever hear the media say the Holy City of Rome? (The occassional Holy See, is mentioned in relation to the Pope)
But how about Jerusalem? Isn't this holiest city on the planet?
Maybe because it's the capital of Israel and is run by Jews that the media just can't bring themselves to say The Holy City of Jerusalem.
How about the Unholy City of San Francisco?
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Jack--unholy city
December 5, 2006 - 15:22 ET by misterbillCan we vote to have the city of Saint Francis renamed to either Sodom Or Gomorrah? Anti-christian, anti-american, anti-heterosexual,anti-military, and in my opinion anti everything decent. The sad part,IMO, is that most of its citizens are decent people. Like all other noises of society, it is a vociferous minority that is in the public eye and that is what is seen and heard via the good old MSM.
How's about, in the spirit of
December 5, 2006 - 15:41 ET by FastEdHow's about, in the spirit of diversity and multi-culturalism, we try San Clintonio? I'm sure there'd be some demo-libs who'd get on their knees . . and pray for that change?
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that's ironic, to me
December 5, 2006 - 15:26 ET by tumblerJacj,
I live near Napa, about 35 miles from San Fancisco. And just recently vivited Rome for the first time. I was in total AWE! My wife & I were upstairs in a great restaurant, looking across the steet at the Roman Colosseum. I says, "Just realize; there's one of the holiest places on the planet, (Something many fail to think about.)
Hundreds if not thousands of martyrs testified with their blood to Jesus Christ-- RIGHT THERE! Crucified, burned alive and fed to lions.
A few days later Tom Cruise and his girl were over there. She was asking a Catholic priest to preside at their wedding that week. CO-preside, with a Scientology minister!
...co-operation is a beautifu
December 5, 2006 - 15:32 ET by TruthMonger...co-operation is a beautiful thing!
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Crucified, burned alive and
December 5, 2006 - 15:44 ET by Jack BauerCrucified, burned alive and fed to lions.
Hey that sounds just like those movies: Ben Hur, Spartacus, Gladiator.
I'm Spartacus.
No. I'm Spartacus. No I AM Spartacus.
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I was in that flick
December 5, 2006 - 15:48 ET by tumblerYeah; me; in Spartacus. Third cross on the right from Kirk.
Muslims probably have more in
December 5, 2006 - 14:10 ET by Dave RMuslims probably have more in common with Christians than Jews do - they revere Jesus and the Virgin Mary for a start...
Actually, the view Jesus as a prophet, not the Son of God. Major difference there.
They revere Jesus - as a proh
December 5, 2006 - 14:17 ET by TruthMongerThey revere Jesus - as a prohet - I didn't say as the Messiah...
But they do revere Jesus, and if Jesus truly is the Messiah then how are we going to get Muslims to open up to this if we have no positive dialogue with them? We have an opportunity on this as they move west and we really have to get going on this before it's too late, my friends...
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Truthmonger
December 5, 2006 - 14:20 ET by Carl KolchakTerrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christians, etc, etc...
In my opinion the link below is one of the best in terms of describing atrocities of the 20th Century. There is a pattern in the list. See if you can find it. I would say that all of us have more in common with each other than we think, and if we would try to learn a little more about others and maybe we can prevent atrocities. Here are some on the list that you don't hear to much about in world history. Number 5 is the Russian Civil War and you can see the people killed during the Red Terror. That would be Lenin and Trotsky who we are all constantly told are the swellest people ever. Number 11 is forced German Expulsions after WW2. Stalin and Tito wanted all of the people who had fled to Germany to be returned to them. Many people perished in this. Also don't forget that Stalin was extremly anti-Semetic and we don't hear much about that in world history either. One of the main problems is that I don't see CAIR or any of these other groups trying to learn more about others. Maybe I don't know much about them, but I don't seem to hear much praised from them for Chrisitans and Jews to try to all get along. In my opinion the left only teaches about atrocities that make left wingers look swell. They don't teach much about Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, or any other left winger committing atrocites, because as Unsane likes to say the left never does anything wrong.
As a Christian you have an extreme amount in common with the Jewish people. The fact that Jesus was Jewish seems to get lost in the translation quite a bit and the Virgin Mary was Jewish as well.
Checkout the below link and try to figure out the pattern. The author gives the answer to the pattern at the bottom. The author also cites his sources and in my opinion this author is extremly non-biased.
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/atrox.htm
"There's blood in the streets, it's up to my ankles" 'Peace Frog'
...why just look at the 20th
December 5, 2006 - 14:27 ET by TruthMonger...why just look at the 20th century? Maybe avoiding the vicious and bloody Christian crusades might have eliminated so many of these contemporary Muslim problems...
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try mongering some truth
December 5, 2006 - 14:33 ET by tumblerYou need some courses of study about the Crusades and our reasons for and against them. Just find out the truth, then mong.
...I suggest we all start thi
December 5, 2006 - 14:53 ET by TruthMonger...I suggest we all start thinking more about forgiving and forgetting, and moving on, moving together - let's accentuate our commonalities more and build upon that...and how about starting with this relatively inexpensive gesture of the Koran oath? Although now it may be a bit too late - one more brick in the wall as pink floyd used to say...
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. . but you don't get yor pud
December 5, 2006 - 14:57 ET by FastEd. . but you don't get yor puddin if you don't eat your meat.
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..stand still laddie!
December 5, 2006 - 15:00 ET by TruthMonger..stand still laddie!
Had it not been for the Crusa
December 5, 2006 - 14:39 ET by Dave RHad it not been for the Crusades, Western civilization, as we know it, would not now exist.
The Muslims attacked Christendom as well
December 5, 2006 - 14:42 ET by Carl KolchakThe Crusades are much much bigger than the Pope sending Crusaders to the Holy Land. Keep in mind the Muslims invaded Christendom as well. The Muslims were in Spain, Italy, Portugal and attacked the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantines were the ones that came to the Pope for assistance once the Seljuk Turks started attacking their empire. Keep in mind the Arabs were in charge of Jerusalem before the Seljuk Turks attacked Jerusalem and took it from the Arabs. The Seljuk Turks then slaughtered Christians and Jews in Jerusalem and wouldn't allow pilgrams to visit. Now there were also atrocities committed by the Crusaders as well. Many times when they conquered a city they would have the "kill them all and let God sort them out" mentality, but to think that for some reason in the year 2006 the only bad people are the Christians in regards to this is a farce. I would suggest people learn about James the Conqueror, El Cid, Saladin, Richard the Lionhearted, the Arabs, the Seljuk Turks, the Moors, the Almoravids and the Byzantine Empire to see that it was a two way street with attacks and the Crusaders and that both sides were instigating attacks.
The Crusades were carried out
December 5, 2006 - 16:19 ET by futbolisgreatThe Crusades were carried out because the Muslims decided to invade Western Lands. The Crusades would have never happened if the Muslims wouldn't have been going around declaring Jihad on anyone that they saw as an infidel.
Furthermore, Islam has a very violent begining. People might want to look into how the sons and grandsons of Muhammad were murdered, not by Westerners, but by Muslims.
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i agree with you on the koran
December 5, 2006 - 16:06 ET by buddyci agree with you on the koran and that there are a lot of good religious muslims. actually islam is closer to my religion than judism as we share view on alcohol, tabacco, dress, etc. however for me it is not either judism or islam. both have good and bad people just like christians.
however, you totally lost me on the crusades. we don't live in the middle ages. we live now. i don't give a darn what happend 600 years ago. i am not one who believes christians were unnecessarily more cruel to non believers than other religions.
you have been watching to much holly propaganda if you think the muslims were innocent during the crusades.
Truthmonger, Your, "Te
December 5, 2006 - 16:14 ET by futbolisgreatTruthmonger,
Your, "Terrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christinas..." line is dumb!
1)Nazis never yelled, "God is Great, Jesus is our Savior" right before they blew themselves up and murdered countless people.
2)Nazis, in fact, used SCIENCE to justify their war and the killing of countless none Arian human beings. They used Darwinism, to justify their believe that the Arian race was superior to any other race. Unlike the Muslim terrorist who use Islam to justify the murdering of Jews, Christians, and anyone else who is not a Muslim.
can you see the difference? Furthermore, you make the assumption that us Americans and Westerns are not willing to peacefully speak with Muslims. it is the other way around, Muslim terrorists are NOT interested in talking to us the infidels. We either convert, or they will blow us to kingdom come. It is the Muslims terrorists, NOT the Americans who are not used to civil exchange of religious, moral and other types of ideas.
Individuals like you are very dangerous and your assumptions are quite ridiculous.
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Thank you, futbolisgreat!!!Th
December 6, 2006 - 09:39 ET by Indiana JoeThank you, futbolisgreat!!!
That tag-line of TM's has been bugging me since I first saw it. I just hadn't put together a good, succinct way of expressing it. Of course the Nazis didn't claim a mandate from God. They claimed "master race" status. Didn't even claim to be Christian, far as I know. Hitler was an atheist. And many, MANY non-Jews (Christians, that is) also died in the death-camps.
Thanks for putting that out there.
Ottoman
December 6, 2006 - 09:46 ET by BarberianCite the advance of the Ottoman Empire which was post Crusades.
I think they got their paybacks there.... about 10 fold!
Again what is it with this Am
December 6, 2006 - 14:05 ET by Darth DutchAgain what is it with this American Islamophobia?
Oh, I don't know, maybe the fact that Muslims have attacked America on 9/11, the USS Cole, the first World Trade Center bombing, the attack on American embassies overseas...take your pick.
This just in...CAIR demands
December 5, 2006 - 14:00 ET by Jack BauerThis just in...
CAIR demands First Lady shows respect for Islam by wearing Burka in White House...
Only kidding. Or am I?
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...perhaps not : ) !Terrorist
December 5, 2006 - 14:05 ET by TruthMonger...perhaps not : ) !
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Muslims must be willing to ad
December 5, 2006 - 16:29 ET by futbolisgreatMuslims must be willing to admit to their violent past, they must be willing to admit that Jihad is evil, they must be willing to admit that they have murdered more human beings than anyone at any time in history, they must be willing to admit that they have owned more black slaves than anyone at any time in history, they must be willing to admit that they treat women worst than worms. They must be willing to admit that they have killed more Muslims than any other race and religion in history.
When Muslims admit to this, then maybe, there will be a clean slate to start with, otherwise it is pointless.
It is amazing to me how Liberals and anti-Christians are always demanding that the Roman Catholic Church, and other Christians admit to the atrocities that have been committed by their members through out history, but they are not willing to ask the same of Muslims, who have committed infinitly more atrocities than any religions, or race before or after them.
It is amazing to me that Muslims treat women worst than they treat their rats and Liberals, who supposedly are for women rights, do not demand that Muslims nations and Muslims treat their women as equals.
It is amazing to me that you always hear a Liberal say that we must understand and co-exist with Muslim culture, but these same Liberals spit, attack, piss on Christian culture.
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futbol...You wrote: "It
December 5, 2006 - 18:30 ET by Clear thinkerfutbol...
You wrote: "It is amazing to me that you always hear a Liberal say that we must understand and co-exist with Muslim culture, but these same Liberals spit, attack, piss on Christian culture."
I think it's high time we confront liberals on this issue. One way to get them to understand what's going on is to ask two simple questions...
1. Do you want to be a Muslim?
2. Or do you want to die?
These are the two choices Islam will give them (and me) if radical islam continues to grow.
Follow-up - Citizens demand C
December 5, 2006 - 14:08 ET by FastEdFollow-up - Citizens demand CAIR show respect for the MAJORITY of Americans.
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.....seeks to educate America
December 5, 2006 - 14:02 ET by Dave R.....seeks to educate Americans about the destructive impact hatred has had, and continues to have, on every society."
I wonder if Mr. Nihad Awad is referring to Islamic Fascists strapping bombs on themselves and their children, then blowing up innocent people, including other Muslims?
Naa.
wrong
December 5, 2006 - 14:04 ET by daberkmanThere is no swearing in process where you put your hand on a bible. The swearing-in ceremony consists only of the Members raising their right hands
and swearing to uphold the Constitution. It has never
been used in an official capacity during the ceremony. (Occassionally,
Members pose for symbolic photo-ops with their hand on a Bible.)
That doesn't really have any impact on Prager not being on the board of the holocaust museum one way or the other but i do think it's important people are informed on that.
Finally, someone who actually
December 5, 2006 - 21:54 ET by crsheddFinally, someone who actually knows what goes on during the swearing in.
You can thank the Minneapolis
December 5, 2006 - 14:11 ET by mattmYou can thank the Minneapolis Star/Tribune for getting this Jihadist elected. They'd campaign for Satan if he was a Democrat.
I thought Satan was a democra
December 5, 2006 - 14:15 ET by Dave RI thought Satan was a democrat.
Horney guy? Yeah, is a democr
December 5, 2006 - 14:18 ET by FastEdHorney guy? Yeah, is a democrat.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Nah he is a Demon crat. Nuk
December 5, 2006 - 14:19 ET by Dan The Man 2Nah he is a Demon crat.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
jihadist
December 5, 2006 - 14:21 ET by misterbillmattm
I read some of the link. Aren't there any Americans left in Congress and the Senate? Why is the professor at DePaul dismissed and people like Ward Churchill, when finally disciplined, sit around collecting over $100K per year.
I am turning paranoid. I see a great horde of America haters taking over my country or at the least ahuge number of nutless dweebs in public office.
Hats off to the Mayoor of Hazelton Pa and others like him. I don't cair what cair has to say. I am not sure if we should blame the Star/Trib or all the fools in Minnesota(a hotbed of radical anti-American sentiment).
Bit of encouragement from Rus
December 5, 2006 - 14:43 ET by mattmBit of encouragement from Rush: Republican students outnumber Democrat students at..........Berkeley!
All is not lost.
I was SHOCKED...........SHOCK
December 5, 2006 - 22:00 ET by BufordI was SHOCKED...........SHOCKED, I say, at the news. Next thing "Pigs Will Fly".
There is hope in this land.
Prager responds to the critic
December 5, 2006 - 15:12 ET by Dave RPrager responds to the criticism.
An EXCELLENT response by Prag
December 6, 2006 - 09:51 ET by Indiana JoeAn EXCELLENT response by Prager. Everyone should read it.
i am pretty religious and I a
December 5, 2006 - 15:46 ET by buddyci am pretty religious and I am a conservative. but, i don't want someone telling me i can't be given an oath or sworn into office unless it is by using the bible. do jews use the bible or the old testament? which edition??? let the guy use the koran. we can't use the government to impose christian views on other religions and those that don't have a religion. we stand for religious freedom here. we stand for tolerance. we are not iran? watch out for what you wish for in this area. i like prager but i just don't agree with him on this one AT ALL.
Well, where are all the Liber
December 5, 2006 - 16:39 ET by futbolisgreatWell, where are all the Liberals that demand seperation of Church and State?
It looks like they only care about this seperation when it comes to Christianity, not when it comes to Islam.
I mean if Liberals are going to be consistant and honest, which we all know they are incapable of, they should be outraged that anyone would swear their Oath to Congress and the USA on any Holy Book, correct?
Yet Liberals have sides with CAIR on this one, one more way that we can all see that Liberals are NOT honest when they claim freedom of religion, what they want is to destroy Christianity.
"...disgusting, unAmerican draft-dodger..." Liberal Zapata/Tom talking about draft-dodgers. Thus asserting what we have always known about Slicky Willie Clinton
Dennis Prager's argument that
December 5, 2006 - 17:23 ET by waka wakaDennis Prager's argument that Representative-Elect Keith Ellison, the
first Muslim elected to Congress, should not be permitted to take his oath of office on a Koran is, intolerant, misinformed and downright un-American.
Prager is flat-out wrong when he asserts that Representative Ellison's use of a Koran would be "damaging to the fabric of American civilization."
To the contrary, the U.S. Constitution guarantees that, "no religious test
shall ever be required" to hold public office in America. Members of Congress, like all Americans, should be free to observe their own religious practices without government interference or coercion.
Prager's patriotic prattling is misinformed on the facts, too. No Member of Congress is officially sworn in with a Bible. Under House rules, the official swearing-in ceremony is done in the House chambers, with the
Speaker of the House administering the oath of office en masse. No Bibles
or other holy books are used at all. Members may, if they choose, also have
a private ceremony with family and friends. At these unofficial ceremonies,
Members frequently solemnize the event by taking an oath while holding a
personal family Bible.
Prager ridiculously asserts that permitting Rep. Ellison to take the
oath of office would "be doing more damage to the unity of America and to
the value system that has formed this country than the terrorists of 9-11."
What he fails to understand is that what truly unifies all Americans is a
value system built on religious freedom and pluralism, not dogmatism and
coercion.
Prager presents intolerant, ugly views. His comparison of Ellison's
desire to "choose his favorite book" to that of the right of a racist
elected to public office to use Hitler's Mein Kampf is outrageous. If
Prager were merely a blogger and radio talk-show host trying to be relevant
and provocative, these views might not merit a response. But as a
newly-appointed member of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council,
Prager and his views must be held to a higher standard.
---Statement from the Anti-Defamation League
Reality has a well known liberal bias.
Dogmatism and Coercion? Tha
December 5, 2006 - 19:00 ET by mattmDogmatism and Coercion? That's Islam for ya. (pssst: they behead infidels)
Reality is a stranger to Liberalism.
Got Peace?
December 5, 2006 - 20:17 ET by acumenI'm having a real hard time putting together this so-called "religion of peace" together with the constant problems generated by this cult. Just not getting much peace here. Seems everytime I turn around some Muslim has got another problem with something. A more apt motto might be 'the religion of whiners'........or maybe the 'mother-in-law of all religions'.
Wouldn't it be nice if a newly elected Christian, Jew, Buddist, Hindu, Mormon or a member of any other religion had even the slightest opportunity to question whether or not they would place their hand on a Koran in a predominantly Muslim country (without losing a body part in the process)? Whiners.
It is only difficult if you a
December 6, 2006 - 09:55 ET by Dave RIt is only difficult if you attempt to view Islam in the context of being a “religion.” If you view it as a political movement disguising itself as a religion, it becomes much easier. Islam was founded by a murderous pedophile, Mohammed, who was also a hypocrite of the first order. This behavior continued long after he founded the “religion” of Islam. If he was a prophet, he wasn’t sent by the God we know.
Dennis Prager is right....God
December 5, 2006 - 22:15 ET by bigtimerDennis Prager is right....
God help our country if something is not done about this...it is time to put a stop to this already.
We are at war with D.I.R.T. (Damned Islamic ReligiousTerrorists).... we get the Quran shoved down our throats through the elite leftists in this country or otherwise known as the enemy within and made to feel we are not PC enough....I say...go to hell and take CAIR and their ilk with ya, we are at war...
Ellison....Take the oath to serve America on the Bible or leave!
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland