National Security Agency Director Stephen Hadley was Tim Russert’s guest on Sunday’s “Meet the Press,” and with the grilling he got, he’s probably sorry he accepted the invitation. In an interview that seemed more like an interrogation by an angry police officer, one of the most telling moments was when Russert enunciated a list of mistakes he believes were made in Iraq, and asked if President Bush is going to acknowledge each and every one of them.
If you’re playing at home, make sure to have your pencil handy so that you can check off each demand as Russert works his way through his list (video available here)
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But in terms of trying to bring the country together, to bring Democrats—who now control Congress—to the table, could the president step forward and say, “I acknowledge we were wrong about WMD, we were wrong about troop levels, we were wrong about the length of the war, we were wrong about the cost of the war, we were wrong about the financing of the war, we were wrong about the level of sectarian violence, we were wrong about being greeted as liberators. We made some fundamental misjudgments, and they were wrong, but now we’re all in this together”? Could he do that?
Hmmm. So, in Russert’s view, to bring Democrats to the table -- even though they now control Congress -- the President must prostrate himself in front of them and the nation. Interesting perspective, dontcha think? Does this suggest that the Democrats should do absolutely nothing until the President complies?
What follows is a partial transcript of this encounter.
MR. RUSSERT: But in terms of trying to bring the country together, to bring Democrats—who now control Congress—to the table, could the president step forward and say, “I acknowledge we were wrong about WMD, we were wrong about troop levels, we were wrong about the length of the war, we were wrong about the cost of the war, we were wrong about the financing of the war, we were wrong about the level of sectarian violence, we were wrong about being greeted as liberators. We made some fundamental misjudgments, and they were wrong, but now we’re all in this together”? Could he do that?
MR. HADLEY: He’s done a lot of that. He’s acknowledged that...
MR. RUSSERT: All those mistakes?
MR. HADLEY: He has acknowledged that—for example, that there were not stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
MR. RUSSERT: How about troop levels?
MR. HADLEY: He’s, he’s acknowledged that, that in terms of troops we need to be building Iraqi forces to provide greater security. You know, Tim, people forget that, that we had hoped to have 150,000 to 200,000 Iraqi army forces to help in the security proposition, and those forces melted away at the close of the war. We have been trying to build Iraqi security forces, because when we go to the Iraqis and say “How about more forces?” the answer of the Iraqis has been “We do need more forces, but they need—we need Iraqi security forces.” And that’s why one of the major efforts of the administration has been to train and equip and increase the competence of Iraqi security forces, because Iraqis want Iraqis to be responsible for security and chart the way forward.
So the president has acknowledged that there are things that have not gone the way we had hoped, that we need to make some changes. We’ve been making some changes. He’s acknowledged we need to make a reassessment, given the new situation on the ground. That’s the process we’re engaged in now.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
Comments Policy
Ladies and Gentlemen, your
December 3, 2006 - 20:54 ET by Richard RomanoLadies and Gentlemen, your "objective" media.
I'm sick and tired of our own
December 3, 2006 - 21:01 ET by Clear thinkerI'm sick and tired of our own media blaming our president for what's happening in Iraq.
HOW COME THEY NEVER BLAME THE BAD GUYS FOR THEIR ACTIONS?
C'mon you media elitist bastards, answer my question!
Isn't it beside the point tha
December 3, 2006 - 21:19 ET by balboaIsn't it beside the point that there are bad guys? We know that. That's why we're in this mess. But how the mess is handled? I would think that's the president. He's our leader, our "decider."
I could be wrong (you'll point it out, I'm sure), but could Russert have been asking if it's _possible_ for the president to admit those things, not why doesn't he?
Very simple
December 3, 2006 - 21:21 ET by UnsaneIf It Weren't For The Bad Guys, We Wouldn't Be In Iraq Or Having This Discussion Right Now.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Balboa
December 3, 2006 - 21:26 ET by Noel SheppardB,
To what end? After all, Congress gives the President the authority to wage war, correct? This of course has been something lost in this discussion since so many Democrats were somehow allowed to change their votes post facto, and their supporters in the press and the electorate didn't seem to mind.
However, now that the Democrats control Congress, isn't the onus now upon them to craft a new direction that the minority Party and the President will go along with? Isn't this what you voted for almost four weeks ago now, B? Or, do you still feel the Democrats have no responsibility in this process even though they are now the majority Party? ns
Noel
December 3, 2006 - 21:36 ET by balboaOf course I think Democrats have to put up or shut up. I'm hoping they don't drop the ball.
BTW, what do you think of the revelation that Rumsfeld sought a new direction for the war, too?
Balboa
December 3, 2006 - 21:43 ET by Noel SheppardB,
Fascinating. Look, don't tell anybody, but I think Bush made a lot of political mistakes with this war months ago. The Republicans would have done much better in the midterms if he had fired Rummy over the summer, and brought in leaders from both parties to discuss options. By not doing so, he appeared to the electorate -- rightly or wrongly -- as not recognizing their concerns about the war's direction. ns
WHAT?! You think Bush made mi
December 3, 2006 - 21:48 ET by balboaWHAT?! You think Bush made mistakes with the war?! Hold on, I need to go outside and see if pigs are flying around. :-)
I don't think Bush would EVER have brought in leaders to discuss options. Never.
Nobody ever said Bush didn't
December 4, 2006 - 01:45 ET by mattmNobody ever said Bush didn't make any mistakes. Bush never said it would be a cake-walk. The point here is that the Democrats and their colleagues in the press want all the focus to be on 'mistakes' and anything negative. Why? For the purpose of making changes that would improve the chances for success, as defined by a stable and Democratic Iraq, or for the political benefit they can derive from the damage their negativism causes?
The November election was largely the result of six years of constant Bush-bashing and negativism from people like Russert. They have viet-namized Iraq and Nixonized Bush. Viet-nam was lost at home because of the Left. If we lose Iraq and the WOT it will be for the same reason, not because of any mistakes by the President or the generals or the soldiers. Anyone who can't see that is either ignorant or blind.
It's a sicko game mattm
December 4, 2006 - 07:22 ET by SportPoliticsIt's a sicko game mattm,
I can't fathom the infantile attitude it requires for democrats to whine like they have been that Bush won't admit any mistakes. It seems they have a patriarchal complex. I think their lives are ruled by the man, and the man is never wrong.
Hey Tim when you treasonous b
December 4, 2006 - 15:46 ET by TruthMongerHey Tim when you treasonous bastards in the scum MSM admit that you're ACTIVELY UNDERMINING THE US IN IRAQ then maybe Bush can admit some mistakes...
Until then go screw yerself, ya damn terrorist-supporting traitor...
http://www.goodnewsiraq.com/index2.htm
Terrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christians, etc, etc...
Truth Monger..Hey I aggree wi
December 4, 2006 - 15:59 ET by ww thumperTruth Monger..Hey I aggree with your "rant" to Tim R ! My feellings exxaaclyy! Thanks for the link to "goodnewsiraq I went there and added it to my favorites. Everyone should go there and read about the GOOD things our fine troops are doing over there. We all need to support our troops and pray for our troops.
.....Political correctness when dealing with Islam will kill america....ww .....
...thanks, felt damn good - a
December 4, 2006 - 16:35 ET by TruthMonger...thanks, felt damn good - and please spread the word - mattm posted it this morning on another thread...and jeeze, these MSM traitor sonsabitches are just plain infuriating...
Terrorists are not Muslims, Nazi's were not Christians, etc, etc...
We have to win and what we've
December 5, 2006 - 05:29 ET by Andrew H.We have to win and what we've been doing has been maybe too timid. I'm left with the question, what does Russert expect to get if the adminstraiton "admits mistakes?" The administration has done that. No, I believe Russert is trying for something esle--and that something else doesn't meet any objective toward that which is really important nor does it mean anything, accomplish anything or do anything. Why a mea culpa on top of mea culpa? I can think of only one reason, Russert--and that's why you're among those not on my viewing list.
Never relent.
bal...Your first sentence is
December 3, 2006 - 21:32 ET by Clear thinkerbal...
Your first sentence is the dumbest thing i've read this week, congratulations!
Happy to oblige. Congrats on
December 3, 2006 - 21:38 ET by balboaHappy to oblige. Congrats on missing the point.
You had no point to miss. Not
December 3, 2006 - 21:48 ET by Clear thinkerYou had no point to miss.
Not even the president of the United States of America has a crystal ball that tells him what will happen in a war.
I don't understand this need
December 4, 2006 - 10:19 ET by Chris NormanI don't understand this obsession by the Liberals that has popped up in the past few years - that the President must admit that he has "made mistakes". The War, the Katrina response, whatever. Is it some kind of path to forgiveness a la Oprah, or do his detactors want the President to provide the fodder for them to use to attack him some more? For some strange reason, I suspect it's the latter.
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
HOW COME THEY NEVER BLAME THE
December 3, 2006 - 21:33 ET by bigtimerHOW COME THEY NEVER BLAME THE BAD GUYS FOR THEIR ACTIONS?
How dare he ask that Ct...when he and his brethren are just as complicit in my opinion... Russert and his ilk are some of the bad guys....the enemy within are on double-time on Sundays....they never quit.
I couldn't watch this today as soon as Buzzard Face Russert started his rant with Hadley...Russert is on a roll, what he did to Elizabeth Dole before the elections made me tell myself I would not watch his show again...well, I tried again today, that didn't last long. Russert is not going to quit until '08 with his steam-rolling..
I still would love to be a fly on the wall, and know his GJ testimony in the Wilson/Plame debacle....
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland
Who is to blame?
December 4, 2006 - 02:05 ET by TelemarkTumaloSo, let me set the record straight for the not so clear thinker. On 9/11/2001, Osama Bin Laden and al-Qaeda fly hijacked jet liners into the World Trade Center. The US is stunned, but stand united behind President Bush who vows to avenge this injustice. The US invades Afganistan in an unsuccessful attempt to locate Bin Laden. Fast forward to March 2003. The US military, on orders of President George Bush, launches an air strike against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The US populace stands behind President Bush because he is convinced that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction, has ties to al-Qaeda, and like Bin Laden, is a terrorist and is an imminent threat to the US.
So, who would you blame for what's happening in Iraq? The media, the Democrats, Iraqi citizens? Remember, our president declared war on Saddam and his regime. The reason that we are still there, that Americans continue to die, that the rest of the civilized world despises us as war mongerers, is because of our President's decisions of 2003 through now. There is no one else to blame....PERIOD.
Your premise is wrong and als
December 4, 2006 - 02:08 ET by Dan The Man 2Your premise is wrong and also your end result.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
1993 Al Quaeda attempts to ta
December 4, 2006 - 02:30 ET by mattm1993 Al Quaeda attempts to take down the WTC. Clinton does nothing.
1996 Hussein kicks the weapons inspectors out of Iraq; one of dozens of violations, any one of which justified military action being taken against him. Again, nothing was done.
1998 Clinton expresses the severity of Hussein with WMD, he is joined in the denunciation of Iraq's WMD by Kennedy, Kerry and scores of other democrats. He also receives support from the Republicans, yet he never actually does anything - other than turn down several opportunities to put Bin Laden in jail.
2000 Clinton's too busy trying to salvage his legacy to do anything about the USS Cole bombing or any other attack on U.S. interests.
2001 President Bush begins, for the first time, to take the battle to the terrorists while rebuilding the military and the intelligence system which suffered from 8 years of Clinton's mismanagement and neglect.
2003 Hussein is done and Iraq is given to the people who elect their own government for the first time in history. (The Coalition also discovered 500 tons of nerve gas and many other WMD - even though WMD was never the only reason for invading Iraq.) Meanwhile, the media intensifies their Bush-Bashing and negativity campaign, thus falling into to the propaganda trap of the terrorist insurgents.
2005: Joe Wilson is found to be The Liar. Iraq actually was seeking to develop nuclear weapons.
Fast forward to today: Thanks to six years of Bush bashing and terrorist propagandizing by the media the Democrats win back congress, and terrorists around the world cheer and liberals have a field day trying to grind Bush into the ground, thus doing for the terrorists and tyrants of the world what they could never do without the help of those same kind of "useful idiots" the commies used to talk about.
Let's add the breath-taking a
December 4, 2006 - 15:53 ET by kathleenirishLet's add the breath-taking audacity and complicity of our 'allies' in Saddam's Evil, Murderous Regime= through the "OIL FOR FOOD" DEBACLE. Where was the outrage of the left in this case? Where was the MSM? Hypocritical pieces of shite. Spit on all of you to infinity, scum who helped themselves to millions while millions were tortured and killed. The MSM is silent, therefore complicit.
Sharia's coming, get ready infidels.
"He who has a thousand friends has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere" -Ali ibn-Abi-Talib, 4th Islamic Caliph
TT and his wanting foreign policy to be a popularity contest
December 4, 2006 - 03:42 ET by UnsaneTT - You, and the entire world, will fall madly, passionately in love with the United States.
When It Is Gone. (hat tip to Nightwish) But fortunately, there are those of us like me who love the United States while it it still here.
The Real World is not a high school popularity contest, and I really don't care if the rest of the world hates us or not. The way I see it, they are a bunch of spoiled whiny ingrates anyway, and they do not vote in our elections. Besides, if your goal is having every single human being love the United States, you are 230 years and five months too late. Your last day to ensure that the United States was to be universally loved was 3 July 1776.
As a realist, I will always accept that there will always be people who hate my country as long as my beloved Stars and Stripes flies. Which is fine by me...but the instant they raise their hands or their guns against the United States and threaten me and my fellow citizens, it is their time to die.
I know that what is really bothering you is the fact that the United States is not emulating the rotting EU by spoiling and pampering its citizens for the act of being born, and ensuring everyone's outcomes are the same, but it isn't turning out so well for Europe...unless you LIKE 9+% unemployment.
You may want to avoid the realm of foreign policy. Even Zbigniew Brzezinski called it "a game for grownups" and we know how successful HE was in that arena (sarcasm). But at least he put it best.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
is it too late then
December 4, 2006 - 04:00 ET by tumblerI hope it's not off topic, too late now--
To say "Go, Chargers! How sweet it IS !!!"
This team may yet bring ol tumbler back to the football fold. My wife went hopelessly searching for a channel on which we could watch San Diego and Buffalo, and only found a line in NFL.com to inform us of our victory! ---!!! We live next door to Napa, (moved in 2000 from San Diego) and only a 49er's tilt was available on this miserable TV menu. No big deal. Keep it alive, Chargers!
Silly tumbler and his Bolts
December 4, 2006 - 04:08 ET by Unsanetumbler - Your Chargers will do just fine. They might even run the table the rest of the year. Then...
...they will flip their calendars, and the calendar will read "JANUARY 2007".
At that point, all 52 players will notice a severe tightening around their throats. ESPECIALLY their head coach, who, as we ALL know, has a fistful of SB rings from his years at Cleveland and Kansas City (snickering).
And of course, the Bolts will get whacked in the very first game of the playoffs by some scrubby wild-card team that barely qualified. Why? It's what happens when the great Marty Chokenheimer is your coach!!!
Go BRONCOS!!!
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
TT, you may want to do a litt
December 4, 2006 - 07:32 ET by The Real TonyTT, you may want to do a little research as you are mistaken. There is NO one person to blame for the war on terror; there are a bunch of terrorists who are at fault.
Idiots like you who blame our President for the war on terror are the "problem children" that must be swatted and sent to bed without any dessert. You and your ilk will continue to whine, cry and demand that someone apologize. Now go to your room and keep quiet.
By the way, who gives a rat's right nut about what the rest of the world thinks of us?? The entire world is JEALOUS of the United States of America - that's why they don't like us.
Come back when you can show us how many people are fighting and dying to get a better life somewhere else (anywhere else) in the world, other than the USA. Good luck.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
Russert
December 3, 2006 - 21:06 ET by pocomocoOn the next three shows, Russert will question FDR about his WWII mistakes.
Next war, Russert will conduct it mistake-free.
The arrogance of the msm is u
December 3, 2006 - 21:08 ET by msh1973The arrogance of the msm is unbelievable. Laura Ingraham is always saying how much she likes Russert, but I just don't see it.
Russert
December 3, 2006 - 21:39 ET by pocomocoLimbaugh also likes Russert personally, but not politically.
You first Mr. Russert. If y
December 3, 2006 - 21:13 ET by GritsYou first Mr. Russert. If you are not just a sock puppet for the MSM and Liberal Democrats, you will name all the successes by the American Military and coalition forces in Afghanistan and Iraq that you and those like you have studiously ignored and I want you to personally apologize for all the false news reported by the media for the last 6 years. You have a week to make up that list and another week to grovel at the feet of the patriotic Americans you so callusly harmed with lies. Let me know if you need more time. Your public is waiting.
Don't make me post the list and make you look like a more pompous ass than you already do.
Grits
Grits
December 3, 2006 - 21:18 ET by Noel SheppardGrits,
Post away. I'll do my best to get it to Timmeh. Furthermore, it'll make you -- and a lot of other members -- feel much better. :-) ns
Noel, how long of a list do y
December 3, 2006 - 21:32 ET by GritsNoel, how long of a list do you want? CentCom has reams, but you have to promise not to send it to Russert. He needs to do his own research. :-)
Grits
Grits
December 3, 2006 - 21:35 ET by Noel SheppardG,
As long as you want, bud! This is your catharsis. I'm just goin' along for the ride. :-) ns
Noel, here's a start. Let
December 3, 2006 - 21:48 ET by GritsNoel, here's a start. Let me know when you are done. http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom1/Shared%20Documents/US%20Cental%20Command%20Newsletter/Newsletter%20Archive/Newsletter%20Archive.aspx
:-)
Grits
Post the list please and educ
December 3, 2006 - 21:35 ET by bluemeatPost the list please and educate us. GWB reminds me of OJ "If I did it". NeandraBush started the fight and obviously he, and you, are losing it. Spare us the cliches, we've heard them all. Come up with something original that explains how this mess will turn itself into a "win", which I doubt you can even define.
Bluemeat...Do you want us to
December 3, 2006 - 21:43 ET by Clear thinkerBluemeat...
Do you want us to win?
We already won. Saddam is gon
December 3, 2006 - 21:44 ET by bluemeatWe already won. Saddam is gone. The Iraqis have other plans pal.
For someone whose profile dec
December 3, 2006 - 21:46 ET by BlondeFor someone whose profile declares the debate to be "interesting", you are certainly getting off on the wrong foot, new guy.
How do you interpret the Iraqis other plans, there "pal"?
The Iraqis, you know, the peo
December 3, 2006 - 21:52 ET by bluemeatThe Iraqis, you know, the people who live "over there", they were born there. They have this new found freedom, which we gave them, to determine their own destiny. All of the factions want their side to take over and "win". If you know who is going to "win" you are an oracle. The Iraqis obviously have strong feeling, pent up needs, and a lot of determination to “win” at any cost.
So tell us, little bluecrabme
December 3, 2006 - 22:08 ET by BlondeSo tell us, little bluecrabmeat, what are their plans?
True--but now faced with kill
December 5, 2006 - 05:32 ET by Andrew H.True--but now faced with killers from al qaeda and fractious muslim groups, what chance do they have if not aided with more firepower?
Incidently, isn't it good to have al qaeda in an area where we can kill them?
Never relent.
Yes, and we prevented South K
December 3, 2006 - 21:47 ET by UnsaneYes, and we prevented South Korea from falling into the clutches of communism and we are still there. Would you have demanded we abandon the peninsula at the end of July 1953 after securing their freedom, rather than keep a force of troops around to ensure the North doesn't get any stupid ideas?
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
If we have already won, why h
December 3, 2006 - 21:49 ET by Clear thinkerIf we have already won, why hasn't the media told us?
I just noticed how you reacted. I am NOT your pal, pal!
Sorry, wrong blog.
December 3, 2006 - 21:54 ET by bluemeatSorry, wrong blog.
Sorry, wrong blog.
December 3, 2006 - 21:55 ET by bluemeatSorry, wrong blog.
Saddam aside, do you want us
December 3, 2006 - 21:55 ET by Clear thinkerSaddam aside, do you want us to win in Iraq?
Saddam aside, do you want us
December 3, 2006 - 21:55 ET by Clear thinkerSaddam aside, do you want us to win in Iraq?
I thought we won a long time
December 3, 2006 - 21:59 ET by bluemeatI thought we won a long time ago. I now believe we are doomed to another Vietnam like experience. We need new leadership to see us through.
We will only have a Vietnam l
December 3, 2006 - 22:03 ET by Clear thinkerWe will only have a Vietnam like experience if the liberal MSM and their followers keep up with their "we can't win" crap!
People like you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
What new leadership?? Oh I
December 4, 2006 - 07:38 ET by The Real TonyWhat new leadership?? Oh I know..some pinhead liberal Dem because they are so good at everything. God help the World if we ever put another Jimmuh or BJ Clinton. By the way, we are still in Bosnia..how come no liberal ever addresses that?? Thanks to BJ Clinton, we are still there, there is no "exit strategy" and it meets all the MSM indicators of "quagmire" so why no outrage?
Simple, liberals are all idiots. Their collective brainpower couldn't think its way out of paper bag.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
We need to use bigger bombs.N
December 5, 2006 - 05:33 ET by Andrew H.We need to use bigger bombs.
Never relent.
Our objective in Iraq was not
December 4, 2006 - 01:33 ET by NL207Our objective in Iraq was not merely to remove Saddam. It was also to defeat the Islamofascists therein. That has not occured yet. According to Abu Al Masri, the new leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, there are now 12,000 foreign Islamofascist fighters in Iraq under Al Qaeda control. These persons are not part of any intramural Iraqi dispute. These are the so-cqalled terrorists this War on terror is all about. Until they are either killed to the last man or the Iraqis drive them out, the war isn't over.
"According to Abu Al M
December 4, 2006 - 14:16 ET by ckc1227"According to Abu Al Masri, the new leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, there are now 12,000 foreign Islamofascist fighters in Iraq under Al Qaeda control. "
wait, how can that be? Ms. Pelosi says there are no Al Qaeda in Iraq. Are you saying Ms. Pelosi is wrong? Is that even possible? :)
Blue - You probably also beli
December 3, 2006 - 21:52 ET by Free StinkerBlue - You probably also believe there were no terror links to Saddam and that he never had WMD
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
The MSM supports the troops. The enemy's troops!
Ha ha you stink too.
December 3, 2006 - 21:54 ET by bluemeatHa ha you stink too.
So are you the one with the d
December 3, 2006 - 21:55 ET by Free StinkerSo are you the one with the dead-end job, or the one who goes to the second rate college?
PhD in biotech and sorry, mul
December 3, 2006 - 21:57 ET by bluemeatPhD in biotech and sorry, multi millionaire.
bluemeat....Now that's funny!
December 3, 2006 - 22:00 ET by Clear thinkerbluemeat....
Now that's funny!
And you're married to Morgan Fairchild
December 3, 2006 - 22:00 ET by Free StinkerOf course you are!
And you're married to Morgan Fairchild - whom you've slept with.
Ha Ha I wish, not. My wife wo
December 3, 2006 - 22:02 ET by bluemeatHa Ha I wish, not. My wife would kill me.
But we believe your Lib crede
December 3, 2006 - 22:04 ET by Free StinkerBut we believe your Lib credentials.
Only a Lib would apologize for having money.
give her time, Meat
December 4, 2006 - 03:23 ET by tumblerA wife needs time to get up the nerve. Is it time yet?
Just as Bush was needing time, when the entire Left had him as a Jesus freak, in a quagmire, too dumb to win anything.
He proved the boo-birds wrong. He walked the walk, kept his commitments, never had to burn his bridges. Now a strange thing has happened. The mid-term elections and a new House Speaker.
But NOT new leadership. He's still our Leader, Meat-head. You're still clueless. Your wife might still make you mince-meat. She has time.
A multi millionaire with mega
December 3, 2006 - 22:09 ET by UnsaneA multi millionaire with megatons of personal guilt?
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Congratulations! I hope you
December 5, 2006 - 05:34 ET by Andrew H.Congratulations! I hope you can avoid being forced to pay more taxes over the next few years.
Never relent.
Free
December 3, 2006 - 22:05 ET by BlondeHello Dolly!
You nailed it in one post!
Good one.
Who, po' lil' ole me? ;-)
December 3, 2006 - 22:07 ET by Free StinkerWho, po' lil' ole me? ;-)
Baaaahhh!Deja vu, Free!
December 3, 2006 - 22:09 ET by BlondeBaaaahhh!
Deja vu, Free!
Three bags full! :'-)
December 3, 2006 - 22:12 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full! :'-)
I like money. Don't you?
December 3, 2006 - 22:12 ET by bluemeatI like money. Don't you?
Too obvious in your response,
December 3, 2006 - 22:14 ET by BlondeToo obvious in your response, there, bluecrab.
How Leftists see money and success
December 3, 2006 - 23:58 ET by UnsaneI like money. Especially when I went out and earned it, as opposed to crying to government to steal from the successful to give to me; or, becoming successful and then getting overcome with guilt at having made the money; or becoming successful and deciding to prevent anyone from competing with me (and therefore dispense Socialist candy to keep Them away).
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
It's always convenient that s
December 4, 2006 - 07:41 ET by The Real TonyIt's always convenient that strident liberals all come here and they are always rich. Does anyone else find that amazingly coincidental??
There should be no rich liberals..they should be giving that money to the poor, illegal aliens and such. How do they sleep knowing they are rich.
We could solve all the world's problems if we taxed the rich liberals at 100%.
Fight Terrorism at home - defeat a liberal!
Liberals give?
December 4, 2006 - 07:54 ET by BarberianDid you not read the article on charity recently.
Liberals give much less to charity than concervatives. They prefer to let the federal government do it for them thru highley ineffeciant welfare programs via higher taxes.
They not going to give if their not certain their not the only ones. Socialist compassion I guess you would call it.
blue...whats a NeandraBush ?A
December 3, 2006 - 22:01 ET by bigtimerblue...whats a NeandraBush ?
Are you related to neoraze? Is SFN close to your heart....?
This inquiring mind is just inquiring?
"Once the coffers of the federal government are opened to the public, there will be no shutting them again." - Grover Cleveland
Huu?? What is a neoraze and S
December 3, 2006 - 22:10 ET by bluemeatHuu?? What is a neoraze and SFN? Look, I love this country as much as any one else. I have read the posts here and at Huffington. There is a lot of noise and I'm trying to figure out what the heck are we dying for in Iraq? I don't buy any of the crap coming out of both sides of the political spectrum. I'm new to this blog and trying to figure out what this group thinks. There are some independent thoughts that make sense here.
Well, hi there Hater.The conf
December 3, 2006 - 22:13 ET by BlondeWell, hi there Hater.
The confused thingy always gives you away.
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December 3, 2006 - 22:15 ET by Free StinkerBlonde: 1
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Your lack of soul is a bigger
December 3, 2006 - 22:17 ET by bluemeatYour lack of soul is a bigger give away, confused loser.
Oooooohhhhh, I'm crushed.
December 3, 2006 - 22:20 ET by BlondeOooooohhhhh, I'm crushed.
Blonde Stinker, you are a cou
December 3, 2006 - 22:24 ET by bluemeatBlonde Stinker, you are a couple of chromosomes short of humanity, and Lord knows what your kind will do to the rest of us. Good luck with the worm feast.
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December 3, 2006 - 22:25 ET by Free StinkerBlonde: 2
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Laughing!
December 3, 2006 - 22:26 ET by BlondeLaughing!
PhD and multi-millionaire,
December 3, 2006 - 23:01 ET by Uncle JohnPhD and multi-millionaire, my a$$. You write like you're either our "buddy", rhayes, or are living in your parents' basement (or both).
How bluemeat can be fair, like he wants the rest of us to be
December 4, 2006 - 01:21 ET by UnsaneI think bluemeat should tell us all, in the spirit of fairness and his Leftist compass, what government agencies he will turn over his millions to, how much money each American will get from him when he rediustributes his cash...and finally, how he will redistribute his Ph. D., since it isn't fair he has one of thoise, either.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Well, one reason that we are
December 3, 2006 - 22:23 ET by UnsaneWell, one reason that we are sending troops to Iraq is simple geopolitics. If a functioning democracy can work in Iraq, perhaps the Iranians will rise up and demand one of their own. (Iran is even more ready than the Iraqis are for democracy.) Another reason is that Iraq was a state sponsor for terrorism. Maybe not of 9/11/01, but Saddam was paying $25K to Palestinian families of suicide bombers. Not to mention Abu Nidal was found dead in Baghdad of March 2003 (you know, the OBL of the 1980s?).
The casus belli existed not because of WMDs...but the instant one of our jets were lit up with a SAM radar in the early going.
Oil is not THE factor like other Leftists like to claim, but it IS a factor, and a small one, at that. Oil is a fungible asset, true, but the United States gets plenty of oil from hemispheric sources like Canada and Mexico. Most of Iraq's oil will go to the rotting EU nations, Asia, and other Eastern Hemispheric locales. And here is betting that most of the drilling contracts will go to French and Russian companies...for the Iraqis have mostly done business with France and the USSR/Russia in the past.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Why do you bother with Huffin
December 5, 2006 - 05:39 ET by Andrew H.Why do you bother with Huffington? Aren't most blogs and posts over there predictable? Try Free Republic, Newsmax to start.
Never relent.
bluemeat, just for you: http:
December 3, 2006 - 22:22 ET by Gritsbluemeat, just for you: http://www.mnf-iraq.com/
Do you notice anyone in uniform on the ground looking worried? That is a big cluebat. See civilians smiling? That is a big cluebat. You would probably feel better to know just how much land area out of the total is a problem. The answer, not much. In fact, the area is so small a few sorties of B-52 or B-2 bombers could resolve the problem, but we just don't want to do it that way.
How can this be turned into a victory? Just hang in there. I believe we are killing more terrorists than we are making. I do think things would go much smoother if we would redeploy to Syria and Iran thus cutting off the flow of arms and idiots.
Grits
Delusional and psychotic you
December 3, 2006 - 22:31 ET by bluemeatDelusional and psychotic you are right not.
bluemeat ... Geeze, guy, I am
December 3, 2006 - 22:49 ET by Gritsbluemeat ... Geeze, guy, I am sorry. I thought you could read. Check the site anyway. There are a lot of pictures and maybe you can get someone to read the captions and stories to you. The pictures are already colored so you can put your crayons away.
Grits
In a debate of issues, liberals consider an even playing field to consist of just them.
In a debate of issues, neocon
December 3, 2006 - 22:55 ET by bluemeatIn a debate of issues, neocons just lie about the issue and puff up all self righteous. Clichés are cute but shallow. Got anything with substance?
Neocons?Hi Haysie!
December 3, 2006 - 22:58 ET by Blonde<