CBS Producer Says NBC's 'Civil War' Pronouncement a Political Statement


The other networks are not quite ready to jump on NBC's "civil war" bandwagon. "Secretary of State Matt Lauer" (according to Howard Kurtz) and other NBC reporters have decided to declare the situation in Iraq a civil war, a move that is praised by some in the MSM and denounced by others. Reports the New York Observer:

“It was their decision to make and their process,” said Jon Banner, the executive producer of ABC’s World News. “We constantly discuss editorial matters here—all the time, every day. How that decision got made there I have no idea, nor do I want to guess.”

“To be honest with you, I think it’s a political statement, not a news judgment,” said Rome Hartman, the executive producer of the CBS Evening News. “We deal with the events of the day, and we decide the best way to describe those events based on the news of the day, not by—never mind, I’m not gonna go there.”
Then he did.

“It should be noted that the day that this pronouncement—and who makes pronouncements anyway? But that’s what it sounded like—was a quiet day, relatively speaking, in Iraq,” he said.

CNN’s official statement on the matter is: “CNN will continue to report on what is happening in Iraq on a day-to-day basis. And we will also report on the ongoing debate in academic and political circles about what constitutes a civil war.”

It perhaps goes without saying that the Fox News Channel has not leaped onto the civil-war bandwagon. Fox anchors will join most of their colleagues in television news in anticipating their own Cronkite Moments.


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This morning, the lovely Lucianne used the phrase 'MSM echo chamber' to describe how they glom onto a phrase and use it repeatedly in their news stories.

Today, the 'MSM echo chamber' reverberates with the words 'Civil War' when describing Iraq, which is a main talking-point of the Democrat party.

As such, there can no longer any doubt that a symbiotic relationship exists between the MSM and the Democrats, which means that any semblance of MSM independence is dead.

Very true. 

Very true. 

What I see on the evening n

What I see on the evening news looks more like general lawlessness than a 'civil war'; more like Al Capone's Chicago than the burning of Atlanta. Should NBC declare inner city gang violence a civil war? At least the bloods and crips had uniforms of sorts.

“To be honest with you, I t

“To be honest with you, I think it’s a political statement, not a news judgment,”

If it is a politcal statement made on the public air waves then we have a right to equal time for rebuttal. 

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

The statement ie perspectiv

The statement ie perspective disregards D.C.

JDW

Kerry: "You know, education, if you make the most of it ... you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

Sadly it seems more and mor

Sadly it seems more and more that NBC landed a scoop by calling Iraq a civil war. Colin Powell today said that if he were still Sec of state he'd declare it a civil war as well. As much as we resent the msm, we must conceed that their declaration was accurate.

Because Powell said so?Surely

Because Powell said so?

Surely you jest.

You don't find Powell to be

You don't find Powell to be a credible authority on the subject? Are you suggesting he's now towing the lib/msm line?

I feel Powell has been workin

I feel Powell has been working against this administration for a very long time.

I disagree. I think he (as

I disagree. I think he (as I) has come to disagree more and more with this administration. Now that the elections have passed, I think many conservatives will be expressing their displeasure with the admin. I feel let down by them. I see Tony Snow taking pages out of Mike McCurry's playbook as he tries to diffuse the uncomfortable questions. Last night I saw a press conference where he literally defined "civil war" while explaining Iraq and denying it was in civil war. Can anyone remind me what the meaning of "Is" is again?

bt...

bt...

I'm not exactly sure of his motives, but it seems the same to me. I guess we will have to wait for his book to come out to find out where he really stands.

Hi Ct....Armitage is right in

Hi Ct....

Armitage is right in the thick of it with the Plame BS...I definately have always thought Powell was involved in that, Armitage was Powell's number one guy to go to, the media let it go and looked no further after it was discovered it was Armitage that was the one who made the leak, I think it is no coincidence whatsoever, I posted as such months and months ago...may have been a year now...lol!

By the way, the book may be interesting, but with time, I think their will be others that write tell all books too besides Powell...

Btw, I could be wrong, I just do not think this was all just coincidental.

I can't find the quote, but P

I can't find the quote, but Powell said something about his buddy Armitage a couple of years ago that leads me to beleive that Powell may have used Armitage in this whole leak thing. If I can find or remember it, I will post it in this thread.

  bigtimer.  I too , feel

  bigtimer.  I too , feel that Powell has been working against this administration for a long time.   Some people used to think he was a conservetive ;  I never thought that of him.   ww            .....Political correctness when dealing with  Islam will kill america....ww .....    

...me either thumper!The left

...me either thumper!

The left love Powell...that ought to give some people pause. It always did me.

BT Thumper Powell

Powell - I wondered why the admin did not use this man at anywhere near his talents and experience indicates he should be. But, if he is the dissenter on the team, he would need an air tight case to not cause hard feelings. I was quite disappointed when he left. I am beginning to find out why he left and that too, is disappointing.

The left love Powell?! Wha

The left love Powell?! What are you talking about? You and those thinknig Powell was a lib in sheeps clothing are starting to sound like conspiracy theory loonies. I wish people would stick by their convictions - a year ago you'd have been a powell defender. Now it seems, if you're not with the administration you must absolutely, unequivically be against it. I can't wait to see what you think of Rumsfeld in 6 months.

No blog I have never been a P

No blog I have never been a Powell defender, ever...other than I respect all that serve during a time of war, doesn't mean I like all of them, or agree with all of them....I wrote what I suspected about Powell here near a year ago.

Where have you been all these years, the msm leftists and others tried their best to get Powell to run, especially CNN, (Fox wasn't around then the first time they attempted this, how old are you just out of curiosity?

Old enough to remember that

Old enough to remember that Powell was Reagan's token - moreso and before he ever was the MSM's. How old are you? That's rhetorical, I don't care. (It's a childish question to ask.) If age is the only qualifier for you, I'll run to a retirement home, find someone talking to the wallpaper, get them to a computer and introduce you.

blog...Powell was Reagans tok

blog...

Powell was Reagans token, how so?

He was a post-Iran-Contra f

He was a post-Iran-Contra fix. A Mr. Clean for the administration's NSC (as I'm sure you remember ;)

Don`t you know how it goes? I

Don`t you know how it goes? If Repupublican Presidents don`t appoint minorities to powerful positions, they`re racists. If they do appoint minorities such as Powell, Rice, and Gonzalez to powerful positions, the appointees are nothing but "tokens."

Wow blog sorry I bothered to

Wow blog sorry I bothered to answer your BS...you're cute by half.

Your memory seems to omit the swooning by the leftists to get Powell to run. That is your problem, not mine.

Btw...all of you leftist trolls really need to get a new line besides thats childish...you all sound the same plus childish.

Big, that's so childish.

Big, that's so childish.

Correct to me I'm wrong, bu

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I'm old enough to remember that the media liked Powell because of his moderate military and social views. Given that we live in a moderately tolerate society, I'd imagine he'd be a likable guy at just about any dinner party or football party he attended.

That was true during the firs

That was true during the first Bush administration and then by Clintons, but he basically had no views before that. He was a soldier that did what he was told.

Response

so . . .

Response

If Powell was defending junior he would be the " Great White Hope " but alas he is not, so lets just beat the hell out of him.

If Daddy had not had his ass whipped by Clinton, this numbskull would have never been closer to the Presidency then Pamela Anderson. A disaster for America and the conservative
cause.

Not hard to understand all this nostalgia for Reagan.