From page one of today's Washington Post, an article by Steven Mufson and Juliet Eilperin that begins with a reference to "the scientific consensus about climate change" as if the "consensus" were an established fact:
While the political debate over global warming continues, top executives at many of the nation's largest energy companies have accepted the scientific consensus about climate change and see federal regulation to cut greenhouse gas emissions as inevitable.The Democratic takeover of Congress makes it more likely that the federal government will attempt to regulate emissions. The companies have been hiring new lobbyists who they hope can help fashion a national approach that would avert a patchwork of state plans now in the works. They are also working to change some company practices in anticipation of the regulation.
"We have to deal with greenhouse gases," John Hofmeister, president of Shell Oil Co., said in a recent speech at the National Press Club. "From Shell's point of view, the debate is over. When 98 percent of scientists agree, who is Shell to say, 'Let's debate the science'?"
Question: If "the consensus" truly is an established fact, why is it referred to as "a consensus"? Why not just state the facts about which there is a "consensus"? (After all, no one refers to the "consensus" that gravity is the reason an apple falls down after separation from a tree. Folks just call it "gravity.")
Answer: Because even among those who believe there is a consensus on global warming, there is no agreement about the consensus itself. To some believers it is a consensus that the planet has been warming (but with internal disagreement on since when and how much); to others it is a consensus that human-caused CO2 emissions are causing measurable warming (but how much it may cause and how quickly is disputed); to others it is a consensus that the expected warming will be catastrophic for the entire planet (while others believe it will benefit some areas while harming others, or believe warming would be negative but not necessarily catastrophic); to some it is a consensus that hurricanes, droughts, snowstorms, etc. have been altered by human behavior (while others say the jury is still out); to some it is a consensus in favor of one or more of the scientific theories combined with the advocacy of some specified political action, such as ratifying the Kyoto treaty (while others see the consensus as wholly scientific, with no political components). Etc.
Bottom line: The supposed consensus itself is a mass of contradictory opinions, a fact which says clearly to anyone with open ears that the science isn't settled on global warming.
So, even though the Washington Post apparently has decided to deny the existence of doubters to the global warming theory "consensus" (making Post reporters and editors "deniers" in the truest sense), the Post still can't do what it ought to have done in the lede: Define the consensus. Cross-posted at the National Center Blog.



















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And remember, it is CLIMATE C
November 25, 2006 - 23:05 ET by UnsaneAnd remember, it is CLIMATE CHANGE, not global warming...
Say! If the Washington Post cares SO MUCH about "climate change", then why are they printing still? Why haven't they 100% migrated online? They are killing trees here! Trees are supposed to prevent "climate change", right?
Oh, I forgot. Deforestation is not addressed anywhere in the Kyoto Protocol. Never mind.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Amy
November 25, 2006 - 23:14 ET by Clear thinkerI appreciate what you wrote and how you wrote it so don't take offense to my next sentence. I hate the GW subject. The very people that insist that we change our ways lack credibility, so I have learned not to listen to them. Below is my own example.
Ten years ago I had an hour long debate with a tree hugger about how we are screwing with our climate by cutting down trees. I mostly argued the 'renewable resource' side while he stuck to 'zero cutting'. The argument ended abruptly when he told me he made his living as a carpenter. Silly liberal!
ROFL!
November 25, 2006 - 23:20 ET by Amy RidenourROFL!
Some years ago, in Anchorage,
November 25, 2006 - 23:27 ET by UnsaneSome years ago, in Anchorage, a friend of mine was minding her own business downtown when some liberal yahoo decided to engage her in an argument over how evil the oil companies were, how they were destroying AK and the world via "global warming", etc. She listened patiently and intently and then asked if he accepted the Permanent Fund Dividend checks (which come from oil revenue as you may know). He said that he did. She told him to stop talking to her about it and to promptly take a hike. Which he did; I wonder if he understands WHY she said that, however.
Your story reminded me of that incident :-) .
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Maybe in the mind of the tr
November 26, 2006 - 07:59 ET by Red JeepMaybe in the mind of the tree hugger carpenter he is using wood that already has been cut. There is nothing he can do about that except make a thing of beauty out of something already destroyed. Save its memory for prosperity, its spirit. I am sure if it were left up to him he would only use trees that have gotten very old and fell over in the forest, or trees killed by lightning or drought…sarcasm/off.
"Ten years ago I had an
November 26, 2006 - 09:13 ET by Indiana Joe"Ten years ago I had an hour long debate with a tree hugger about how we are screwing with our climate by cutting down trees. I mostly argued the 'renewable resource' side while he stuck to 'zero cutting'. The argument ended abruptly when he told me he made his living as a carpenter. Silly liberal!"
That may be the purest, cleanest, most succinct and inarguable proof of liberal hypocrisy I have EVER heard of. A great story...
In a similar vein, I knew a very liberal guy when I was younger. Didn't own a car, talked environmental issues, biked everywhere. Folk musician. I mean, almost a parody of the type. BUT, when he NEEDED a car, he'd offer to buy the gas for me or someone to take him where he needed to go. I finally pointed out that, while my name was on the car's title, the emissions it was currently spewing were HIS emissions, for HIS benefit.
Next time I saw him, he had a car. I'll give him credit, though... he accepted and dealt with the hypocrisy I pointed out to him. Rare for a liberal today.... ;^D
established
November 26, 2006 - 11:35 ET by iveseenitall"established fact." The "journalists" at the Washington Post were absent for the classes concerning the difference between fact and opinion.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
The "journalists"
November 26, 2006 - 14:30 ET by lnthompThe "journalists" at the Washington Post were absent for the classes concerning the difference between fact and opinion.
More likely they attended a class on how best to obscure opinion as fact. No class would have been offered on the difference.
LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)
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shade's and hue's
November 27, 2006 - 04:43 ET by foolnomorewhat shade of black does this print come in and what hue of white will this paper be made with?? make"s a common man,get's ta wonder''ing about,sound's like shady ,shameful ,science ta me..
liberalism is a mental disorder<> bless and support the troops,job well done!