Over at the DNC's official blog, Tracy Russo thought he'd found another Macaca moment:
If a Democratic uttered something even close to this the media would be all over it like white on rice:
“White rednecks” who “didn’t show up to vote for us” partly cost GOPers their cong. majorities, Rep. Adam Putnam (R-FL) told fellow Republicans today. And Putnam, seeking the post of GOP conference chair, chided ex-Chair J.C. Watts (R-OK) for ruining the conference’s ability to serve its members.
Three Republicans in the room independently confirmed to the Hotline the substance and context of Putnam’s remarks.
Ezra discusses it over at TAPPED.
Ezra Klein wasn't quite as pro-Democrat as Russo, but he was still professing that Democrats would be crushed for such a remark:
Imagine if Nancy Pelosi uttered the same remark, then compare that imaginary firestorm with the one likely to result from Putnam's comments. It's all well and good to argue that Democrats carry seeds of elite condescension towards low-income whites. What's foolish is to think the GOP's powerbrokers aren't precisely as disconnected, though with a heapin' helpin' of opportunism and exploitation thrown in for good measure.
Putnam's full quote was “heck, even the white rednecks who go to church on Sunday didn't come out to vote for us.” But didn't these people see Jim Webb touting his white "redneck" credentials in the media during the campaign? How quickly they forget this beaut of a quote from Webb in the October 19 Washington Post, which trumps Mr. Putnam:
"Towel-heads and rednecks – of which I am one. If you write that word, please say that. I mean, I don’t use that pejoratively, I use it defensively. Towel-heads and rednecks became the easy villains in so many movies out there."
Does anyone recall the "firestorm" from the media? The media all over it like "white on rice"? Nope. "Redneck" is not a highly offensive word, although you'd think "towel-head" would be.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.
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Must be bigotry week...
Wed, 11/22/2006 - 22:34 ET by blogonatorMust be bigotry week...
Hahaha. How much news cop
Wed, 11/22/2006 - 23:15 ET by Ynot59Hahaha.
How much news copy was given to Byrd's "White Nigger" statement?
BRITANNICUS SUM
Yeah Ynot... I saw that int
Wed, 11/22/2006 - 23:57 ET by JerryYeah Ynot... I saw that interview..
Byrd (D): "I even know some white ni***rs..."
And how about... "New Orleans will be a chocolate city.." - N.O. mayor (D)
or... "We're not gonna let those white boys win.." - Gore's campaign manager (D).
or... all the references to Condi Rice & Colin Powell as "house slaves".
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Living in Gary, IN, an 85% bl
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 03:43 ET by Indiana JoeLiving in Gary, IN, an 85% black city, I've heard "We need someone who looks like us," as a reason NOT to elect a white politician.
The ghost of Bull O'Connor is black!
Egads.... there is no such
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 00:24 ET by liberal_bug_zapperEgads.... there is no such thing as racism. That's just another damn term they use to shut us up. This method of adding "-ism" to a word to indicate prejudices has gotten way out of control. We are all one species. Genetically speaking, we're so close to identical it's impossible to really tell us apart.
They label hate and ignorance with one word.... racism, and then they begin to label anyone who they hate as racists. The term racism is horrible English and should be abolished from any lexicon of any worth. Prejudice is also a term that gets a bad rap. Prejudices are a good thing when used for judging certain types of people. It's generalizations that turn a good trait into a bad thing. All blacks are this, all Asians are this, all whites are that.... total BS.
Bigotry is something else, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that this statement is bigotry. I know tons of rednecks. They even know themselves as rednecks. It isn't an insult.
However, Liberals always use it in the pejorative sense, making it sound insulting.
And all this BS about the N word;.... hell, it's just a word. Giving a word power over you is stupid. This word is no worse than the F word.
The friends I keep, of all colors, creeds and from multiple cultures all think in similar ways. My black friends are nice and conservative and would no more use the N word as they would use the F word. They agree that Blacks in the US think they have a free pass to use any disparaging remarks to other races, but are infuriated when someone other than black uses the N word.
For my final part of this rant, please can anyone tell me how do you tolerate intolerance? This is the Liberal paradox.
They agree that Blacks in the
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 00:32 ET byThey agree that Blacks in the US think they have a free pass to use any disparaging remarks to other races, but are infuriated when someone other than black uses the N word.
I actually agree with this and always wondered since high school why blacks could use the n word so freely to each other?
There is racism but we as a people can have twins that are of twins of two races, asian and caucasian, black and white. We are all far more alike than different.
I think we should even treat neocons as equals! It is not their fault that are genetically inclined to be ignorant!
tgdf! ;)
You could have stopped at &qu
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 00:48 ET by liberal_bug_zapperYou could have stopped at "I think we should even treat neocons as equals!"
But no, you had to go on and open your mouth and insert foot. It's almost like I didn't write anything other than what you quoted from me.... did you not read the part on " generalizations? "
I guess not...
Now if you try and retort with an attack on other's use of generalizations, I suppose you'll go even further to proving who and what you are.
hazey
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 00:53 ET by misterbillYou're a hoot. I have to go to bed soon as I am a geezer, but thanks for the laughs. Next to fumbler (or stumbler) you are the funniest! Some of these poor neocons take you serious, but I know you are joking and having fun!!
I hope you have a Happy Thansgiving today. Eat the bird!!
Ta mate, I'll enjoy the white
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 00:56 ET byTa mate, I'll enjoy the white bird at the Jesus House!
just kidding. It aint your fault you're a neocon!
Its nice to see there are nice neocons out there! tdf
Um, I'm not Jewish. Nor do
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 01:20 ET by liberal_bug_zapperUm, I'm not Jewish. Nor do I accept the term as a description of modern day conservatives… and I don’t mean the Pat Buchannan isolationists.
It would behoove you to find out what the definitions of these pejoratives you use are. It would better suit you to use proper language to describe those you speak of rather than incorrect labels.
First, many of the movement's founders were originally liberal Democrats of the Jewish persuasion who saw the error in the way that modern liberal democrats were going and decided to jump ship. This happened in the 1960s. And the term “neocon” was used in a pejorative fashion aimed at the defectors. What is a laugh to most of us conservatives is that many liberals use this as a blanket insult to try and define us. They want the term to be synonymous with “neo-nazi”. You know it’s true! All you need to do is go to one of many Liberal sites on the net and read what they think neocons are. Warmongers, racists, bigots, homophobes, sexist pigs and worst of all, white Christians and Jews who want to rule the world. Well, I may be white, but I’m not a Christian, and I certainly don’t want to rule the world…. Just hang around at the top.
So I reject your insult and will keep exposing you people for the inconsistent attack mongers you are.
Oh, and the only turkey I'll be eating is in a Subway sandwich.... I live in Asia.... little hard to find good turkey here.
It would better suit you to
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 01:27 ET byIt would better suit you to use proper language to describe those you speak of rather than incorrect labels.
and this site's reference to lunatic liberal ?? do neos have their defintion?
according to the definition of neo that you all hate, the average neobear fits the description to a tee! How do you not fit in with that description especially when you love the imperialistic tendencies of Bush and the military industrial complex??
standard line of neos- that neos are Jewish because they helped start this new type of ultra conservatism where might makes right!
neologic-does liking blues and jazz make you african american?
Hippies hated their label but it stuck. rednecks hate their label when a damn "liberal" calls them one.
"Critics take issue with neoconservatives' support for aggressive foreign policy [citation needed], especially what they characterize as unilateralism and lack of concern with international consensus through organizations such as the United Nations.
(and this site hates the un. most want to do what they want regardless of the rest of the world.)
Neoconservatives respond by describing their shared view as a belief that national security is best attained by promoting freedom and democracy abroad through the support of pro-democracy movements, foreign aid and in certain cases military intervention.
check
"This is a departure from the traditional conservative tendency to support friendly regimes in matters of trade and anti-communism even at the expense of undermining existing democratic systems."
check
we will go round and one. A bigot would never admit to being a bigot regardless of him fitting all the behavior that the term bigot means. Now go whine some more about the source! end of discussion. I have had this conversation ad infinitum .
Typical liberal....What’s
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 01:59 ET by liberal_bug_zapperTypical liberal....
What’s more funny is that I’ve really gotten to you ... Do you people have anything new to offer up in arguing against us? Do you actually argue points or are you just a bunch of broken records??
When we prove you wrong, you come back with the same stupid arguments.... get a new line guys... this same old crap is really starting to bore me.
The UN is not a democracy... nor does it represent democratic functionality on the world stage, this is one of the biggest lies that is perpetrated by your kind. In order for it to be a democratic institution, all representatives would have to be coming from democratic nations.... where people actually have representation... ah, some truth that busts open a poor UN-loving-Liberals flawed logic....
We don't hate the UN, we just don't see it as being constructive or useful. We see it as a decrepit and corrupt institution that perpetuates the power of tyrants, dictators and despots.
You turn up your nose at the notion that all people yearn to be free, that freedom "imposed" is what is happening. Actually, you free people to give them freedom, it's socialism that is slavery, that imposes, and it is that virulent form of socialism called communism that has been the genesis of the worst mass murders in world history.
Oh, and here’s another one for you. Rednecks don’t mind the term redneck. That is unless it gives them the excuse to pop a Liberal in the nose… then they will claim they hate it.
What’s more funny is that I
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 02:54 ET byWhat’s more funny is that I’ve really gotten to you
How have you gotten to moi?? tdf...being in denial about fitting wickipedia's definition of a neoconservative?? tdf
... Do you people have anything new to offer up in arguing against us?
what point is there arguing about 2+2=4..you remind me of kids that will never understand negative integers. It's like negative integers don't exist in the neo party because you've been indoctrinated by right wing propaganda and been given select talking points to explain why there are no negative integers. regardless of the facts, neos will always think of a way to deny facts.
.you and others on here perfectly fit the bill for the definition of the word. That is why you all lost the elections despite your attempts to rig it again! Most americans are tired of your lies and hypocrisy!
good night
Explain to me again how con
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 03:09 ET by liberal_bug_zapperExplain to me again how conservatism lost? And please, dumb it down as I am a stupid conservative and I confuse easily.
conservatism didnt lose...you
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 03:42 ET byconservatism didnt lose...your party's bastardization of conservatism lost...americans are tired of staying the course!
Ah, see you must have me conf
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 05:22 ET by liberal_bug_zapperAh, see you must have me confused with a Republican. I don't have a party. I have an ideology. It's much more solid. The Republicans (as you seem to have only just noticed) have not been conservative.
Unlike you however, I do not get my marching orders from some crazy lunatic. I actually read and learn about what it means to be a conservative capitalist with a global vision, hence my unwillingness to stand with the Buchananites.
I read the works of Adam Smith and newer works of Art Laffer. I read actual accounts of socialism failing and capitalism saving the day as was written in 1650 by William Bradford, Governor of the Plymouth Colony, and I do read the works of those who I disagree with like Marx's Capital.
We conservatives don't hold to the party line like you nutcase Dems. It's why more people call themselves conservative than Liberal in this country, but Liberals sometimes win a majority. It isn't because there are more of you, or that your ideas win. It's that conservatives won't vote for those they do not consider conservative. Democrats will vote for anyone, and say or do anything as long as they win. With Democrats, the end justifies the means, with conservatives, the means is how the Republicans won in 94, and how they lost in 06.
Learn it Liberal.... because you will face a bigger loss as communication becomes easier. The information age is exposing all who do not wish to be exposed. The corrupt Republicans... and the even more corrupt, and morally bankrupt Democrats. Your party, and by proxy, you will be defeated.
On the other hand, I don't feel one bit sad the Republicans bit the big one.... I'm a bit worried that our country will suffer because of it, but Republican loss isn't the issue, it's the safety of our country in the hands of a bunch of cowards and traitors.
Excellent response, "zap
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 08:45 ET by Indiana JoeExcellent response, "zapper." You express the feelings of a lot of conservatives, and define very well the differences in ideologies, tactics, and concerns between us and the Democrats.
Well-reasoned, well-explained, and well done.
Too bad you've wasted your breath in this case. But I enjoyed reading it.
Regards,
IJ
Funny thing....all those &quo
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 03:53 ET by Indiana JoeFunny thing....all those "links" go to NB "page not found" notices....
Please don't feed this desp
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 09:45 ET by Uncle JohnPlease don't feed this desperately lonely thread-hijacking troll... Nothing good can come from it.
Happy Thanksgiving to all NewsBusters!!
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 09:57 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsHappy Thanksgiving to all.
Yes rhayes is truly nutty. Read this and this and this.
DSG
I'd say that's more than am
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 16:23 ET by Uncle JohnI'd say that's more than ample evidence. Yikes. I'm surprised they allow internet access in the psych ward.
Heartily agree, Unk. I got he
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 11:32 ET by Indiana JoeHeartily agree, Unk. I got here too late to make the same plea. Waste of time and server space.
Not feeding; training. It's
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 21:02 ET by liberal_bug_zapperNot feeding; training. It's much like lion training, except these lions are like retarded kittens.
Thanksgiving in China
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 15:39 ET by UnsaneI was in Beijing for Thanksgiving last year. Lots of chicken, beef, rice..and it was all wonderful food...but it wasn't turkey. Nonetheless, enjoy!
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Since nobody else has taken
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 07:11 ET by sarcasmoSince nobody else has taken a stab at it, I'll venture a guess as to why rural FL voters might have stayed home or voted Democrat.
JMR
I am a white redneck. I vot
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 08:36 ET by Andrew H.I am a white redneck. I voted straight GOP--our people won here in Tennessee--at least in this district and Bob Corker. Rednecks are good people--we come in quite a variety and believe it or not--a variety of colors and professions. We love God and Jesus. We like our dogs, bar-b-que, music, our women and straight talkers. We don't like liars.
Never relent.
Huddleston has it correct.
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 11:40 ET by mikejHuddleston has it correct. I was born and raised in Tennessee and have been all over the south. Redneck is not a racist term and is worn with pride by many southern and country people who understand what hard-work is all about.
An offensive term would be white-trash.
Rednecks loud and proud
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 09:16 ET by nkviking75Maybe I watch too much CMT, but it seems to me a lot of "rednecks" identify themselves that way and are proud of it. Jeff Foxworthy has made a career out of it, and Gretchen Wilson's debut record was a huge hit where she sings "I'm a Redneck Woman". Unless you use the term in a context which makes it clear you're insulting them, it doesn't seem to me that most of these self-described rednecks would be offended by the term.
Comment
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 13:59 ET by iveseenitall"White Redneck" or any other phrase just goes to show the arrogance and condescension of all our "representatives". Republican or Democrat, we need to clean house.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
All-Something which we pretty
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 14:32 ET by thefirststrikeAll-
Something which we pretty much already understand, but which the liberals can't or won't try to understand is that the term "redneck" is descriptive or derogatory depending on who says it and in what context. It is the same as using the word "nigga", a derivative of the other N-word we all know. Black people use this word all the time to each other, but let a white person use it and all hell will break loose!!
I watched a video clip in JibJab.com from "Mind of Mencia" where Carlos Mencia went out and asked black people about the difference between "nigga" and "nigger". One well known rap artist whose name I do not recall said that a white person can NEVER use even the word "nigga", his logic being that there are some words that are OK for black folks but white people just shouldn't be allowed to use!!
Although I do not agree with this twisted logic, I do agree that the context in which a word is used has as much, and sometimes more, meaning than the actual word itself. The same is true for the word redneck.
I will give an example. Foxworthy and others use "redneck" in a funny way, but also as being descriptive of how they see themselves and their lifestyles. Liberals on the other hand use "redneck" the same way they use "neocon". It is clearly meant to be derogatory and indicative of the type of person one would rather avoid being in close personal contact with.
Even further proof of this is to note how often liberals will use the word "redneck" in conjunction with other negative, disparaging words. They often throw "ignorant" and "uneducated" and especially "racist" and "bigotted" into the mix, making it obvious that they view ALL "rednecks" as uneducated, ignorant, racist, bigots as well. To your average liberal, these traits are all part of the "redneck" mentality and as such are impossible to seperate from it. This makes it easier for liberals to marginalize and dismiss the "redneck's" thoughts, ideas, opinions and beliefs.
D.J.R.
How does one evolve into a redneck?
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 14:46 ET bySomething which we pretty much already understand, but which the liberals can't or won't try to understand is that the term "redneck" is descriptive or derogatory depending on who says it and in what context.
hmmm, ive only lived more than half my life in a redneck state, but since i'm left of redneck, I'll never understand the difference between describing a race(?)therefore being racist) or just being derogatory?
Being redneck is a choice not a genetic inclination- How do I stay closeminded? How do I develop an even more affected Texas accent when my parents are wealthy yankees and I need to win more votes?
"Let's see I know that I went to an Ivy league school but I notice that other rednecks in Texas and Okiehoma say "nucular" Heck I can do that too! Maybe if I throw in a few racist slurs when the press aren't around, I'll fit right in with the other good ole boy!"
How to get a TX accent
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 15:43 ET by UnsaneActually, it's called being two years old when you move from CT to TX :-). Besides, not everyone in TX, even natives, has an accent. But then, you WANT and DEMAND to live in a simplistic world of delusion.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 18:45 ET by thefirststrike
And as is the norm for libera
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 18:59 ET by thefirststrikeAnd as is the norm for liberals, rhayes takes one sentence...ONLY ONE SENTENCE...from my ENTIRE post, and spends all of his time responding to that! He totally disregards ANYTHING else I said.
Why? Because there is no good defense against what I said. Rhayes knows I have a very valid point and can't stand that he can't find any logical way to challenge it.
This is a typical liberal ploy which I have become increasingly familiar with during my recent forays into the blogosphere. Liberals write long, impassioned posts attacking conservatism, Republicans, and anything which we hold dear, but when pressed to defend ridiculous behavior or comments from themselves or their fellow liberals, Hollywood, or the MSM, they resort to picking out that ONE LINE, that one idea, from a post that they feel they have a tiny bit of a chance to refute, and they focus all their effort and all of their limited ability "harping" on that issue and that issue alone.
The next step will be the personal attacks, followed by or coupled with the name calling and derogatory remarks about my education or my lineage.
"...Being redneck is a choice not a genetic inclination- How do I stay closeminded? How do I develop an even more affected Texas accent when my parents are wealthy yankees and I need to win more votes? Let's see I know that I went to an Ivy league school but I notice that other rednecks in Texas and Okiehoma say "nucular" Heck I can do that too..."
How do you know being redneck isn't genetic? Are you some world renowned geneticist? Do have some knowledge about genetics that Mendel and everyone since then doesn't?
Ironic, isn't it...liberals preach that being gay is genetic, even though they have yet to provide ANY proof of this claim, but somehow, being a redneck ISN'T genetic, as per the proclamation of rhayes, so I guess it carries the strength of the word of God. Oh wait, probably doesn't believe in God either.
And of course he managed to steer the whole thing into another [covert] rant about GW, even though I never mentioned anyone by name. Not to mention that rednecks are described as being from Texas and "Okiehoma"...I guess the name calling has already begun after all.
All the while remaining open-minded and compassionate as only a true liberal can...how do you do it rhayes? <sarcasm off>
D.J.R.
Pot meet kettle.......Sound
Thu, 11/23/2006 - 19:29 ET by davidrw70Pot meet kettle.......
Sounds like an American who has spent a little time in Australia coming back calling everyone mate or bloak...........
'You lose the debate when you let someone distract you from the original idea of the debate.'