NY Times on Incurious George in Vietnam: He's No Bill Clinton

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By Clay Waters | November 20, 2006 - 16:25 ET

New York Times reporer David Sanger lets the snark fly in Hanoi while marking Bush's post-election trip to Communist Vietnam on Sunday.

While the rest of the press played up liberal-minded comparisons between the Vietnam War and the Iraq War and brought up old and unsubstantiated claims about Bush's Vietnam-era National Guard service, Sanger finds a different anti-Bush angle, one he’s used before – the president’s evidently disturbing lack of curiosity about the world.

Sanger harkens back to the Vietnam visit of another president rather more liked by the media. “Unlike Clinton, Bush Sees Hanoi in Bit of a Hurry” reads the online headline, which even comes with a huge photo of Clinton in Vietnam in 2000, one of Laura Bush – and none of President Bush himself.

“President Bush likes speed golf and speed tourism — this is the man who did the treasures of Red Square in less than 20 minutes — but here in the lake-studded capital of a nation desperately eager to connect with America, he set a record.

“On Saturday, Mr. Bush emerged from his hotel for only one nonofficial event, a 15-minute visit to the Joint P.O.W./M.I.A. Accounting Command, which searches for the remains of the 1,800 Americans still listed as missing in the Vietnam War.

“There were almost no Vietnamese present, just a series of tables displaying photographs of the group’s painstaking work, and helmets, shoes and replicas of bones recovered by the 425 members of the command. He asked a few questions and then sped off in his motorcade.”

That’s a familiar theme with Sanger, who wrote about a trip Bush made to the region in 2003, in which the White House responded to security concerns:

“Thus Mr. Bush, not an ever-curious tourist, will see less than usual….Past presidents have taken in the restaurants of Sydney or the wonders of the country. Not Mr. Bush: He cut the trip down to a visit to Canberra, a capital that is a bit like Ottawa but not quite as vibrant. He will be there for just 21 hours, on his way to a day of fundraising in Honolulu, perhaps the only time he will make it to Hawaii between now and the election."

On Sunday, Sanger writes:

“But the mood of this trip could not have been more different from the visit of another president, Bill Clinton, exactly six years ago this weekend, when he seemed to be everywhere.

“And while the difference says much about the personalities of two presidents who both famously avoided serving in the war here, it reveals a lot about how significantly times have changed — and perhaps why America’s ‘public diplomacy’ seems unable to shift into gear.

“In 2000, tens of thousands of Hanoi’s residents poured into the streets to witness the visit of the first American head of state since the end of the Vietnam War. Mr. Clinton toured the thousand-year-old Temple of Literature, grabbed lunch at a noodle shop, argued with Communist Party leaders about American imperialism and sifted the earth for the remains of a missing airman….the Vietnamese have barely seen or heard from Mr. Bush. He spoke at his first stop, Singapore, promising that ‘America will remain engaged in Asia.’ But the response was tepid — the invited audience somehow missed several of built-in applause lines — and one senior Singaporean diplomat, declining to be quoted by name, said there was little in the speech ‘that his father didn’t say to us 15 years ago.’"

Sanger clearly misses Clinton’s touchy-feely, symbolic style of leadership:

“Here in Vietnam, what has been missing, at least so far, are the kinds of emotional moments of reconciliation that marked Mr. Clinton’s visit. Mr. Clinton took the two sons of the missing airman, Lt. Col Lawrence G. Evert, to a rice paddy in Tien Chau, a tiny town 17 miles northeast of Hanoi. There, they searched for remnants of the colonel’s F-150D Thunderchief, which crashed during a bombing run in 1967. Scores of nearby villagers joined in the effort, and the soil gave up the airman’s bones.

Bruce Kesler fills in the blanks on what Sanger missed, quoting the San Jose Mercury News, one of the few bureaus to write on the plight of democracy dissidents in Communist Vietnam:

 

“Dissidents throughout the country say they have been harassed, detained and, in one case, beaten up by authorities to keep them from meeting with foreign journalists or engaging in any protests while the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting convenes.

The home and cellular phones of many prominent dissidents have been disconnected. Some activists have been locked inside their homes. Throughout the city, barricades have been erected at the homes of many dissidents, typically with four or five police officers standing guard. Signs around the homes warn visitors: ‘Restricted Access,'’ ‘No Foreigners’ and ‘No Pictures.’”

Kesler reacts:

“David Sanger may want to on a future trip to Vietnam to visit more than a Pho restaurant or Hanoi victory museums.”

For more New York Times bias, visit TimesWatch.

—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.

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<sarc>Clearly, governin

<sarc>Clearly, governing on the basis of emotions of the populace is far more important that actually learning the facts and putting them to use.</sarc>

LNTHOMP previously posting as LEENT. U.S. Navy (ret.)

My success and happiness are not determined by who wins elections.

Clinton never had a real emot

Clinton never had a real emotional moment while he was in office, at least untill the got caught with the bimbo. I had never seen such a bad actor in my life as I saw in OKC after the bombing. One moment sheading a tear, the next grinning big as he left.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Don't ya just love these know

Don't ya just love these know-nothing know-it-alls with their constant agendas....

Comparing Bush to Clinton is just plain filthy. There is no comparison...one is good, the other evil. Period.

There, they searched for r

There, they searched for remnants of the colonel’s F-150D Thunderchief, which crashed during a bombing run in 1967

Nitpicking the MSM, I know. But shouldn't that be F-105D Thunderchief? I hate it when when media report on matters military and get it wrong. Talk about incurious....

Was stationed at NAS Oceana, VA for 19 years and the local fishwrap, The Virginian Pilot/Ledger Star constantly got military matters wrong. Considering the HUGE military presence of all forces in the Hampton Roads area, to me it was just pure ignorance, neglect and unprofessional.


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

NY Times on Incurious Georg

NY Times on Incurious George in Vietnam: He's No Bill Clinton

...and thank God for that!


Give a Democrat Party free America a chance!

As you can tell by my above p

As you can tell by my above post I agree John!

Good to see ya...long time no see!

Yeah, I want my president to

Yeah, I want my president to be a good tourist. It's.the most important thing they can do while in office...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Maybe President Bush has more

Maybe President Bush has more to take care of on a daily basis than Bill Clinton did and doesnt really have time to visit noodle shops.

The MsM's attempt to restore

The MsM's attempt to restore Slick Willie's "Legacy" continues.  Notice how he glossed over the facts about Clinton's "Military Record".

"Bill Clinton's Military Record

-Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228.

-Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964
-Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968
-Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969
-Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military
-Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Colonel E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment
-Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969
-Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army 

-Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) "registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction"
-Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction, is INELIGIBLE!
-Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40
-Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice

All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.

Colonel Eugene Holmes' September 1992 affidavit concerning Bill Clinton and the draft: Colonel E. Holmes' Affidavit
Bill Clinton's Draft Refusal

Update: September 19, 2006"

From: http://www.gmasw.com/clinton.htm

Yeah, but he has leadership c

Yeah, but he has leadership crackling from his jeans....

He really was a draft dodger.

He really was a draft dodger... thank you for the detail.  Why?  Wow, ain't he something great, wonderful, caring--an old fashioned P.O.S.  

Never relent.

Frankly, if my president trav

Frankly, if my president travels on official business, I expect him to get over there, do what he needs to do, and then come home because the American taxpayer shouldn't fund his gallivanting around the countryside just to enhance his public image.  Honestly, Bill Clinton was a master at enhancing his public image cause he wasn't very good at doing much of anything else.  After all, how do you account for a domestic policy that failed to adjust for the Internet/telecom bubble and ultimately plunged us into a recession?  How do you account for a foreign policy that permitted Saddam Hussein to violate UN resolution after resolution, kick out IAEA inspectors, and restrict access to weapons sites without revocation?

Leftists love Bill Clinton cause he told them what they wanted to hear and they hate George Bush because he didn't kowtow to their elitist ways.  Unfortunately for this president, no matter what he does, he'll always be wrong in the eyes of the liberal media.

Wouldn't it be nice if the me

Wouldn't it be nice if the media would just report the frickin news?

I guess journalism is too much to expect from journalists...

Bill Clinton is the greates

Bill Clinton is the greatest president of all...afterall...What about bringing peace to the middle east for a week or what about Somalia what about reducing the armed forces what about his sex scandal what about him almost getting impeached what about MY PENIS!!

No bubba

"He's no Bill Clinton." Thank God for that! He's the President, not the tourist-in-chief. If he had taken time to look around, they'd be slamming him for that as well.

I do wish he'd made one tourist stop in Vietnam. I'd like to see a photo of him admiring the display in that museum where John Kerry gets credit for helping the Commies win the Vietnam War.

hahahahahaha yea haha that

hahahahahaha yea haha that would be hilarious or on an NVA AA battery Jane Fonda style ha

Bill also prayed and stacked

Bill also prayed and stacked rocks on Omaha Beach in Normandy. (A beach, by the way, which has no rocks.) So what?!? I could give a rat's rear end about Bill Clinton.

By the way... did I read correctly?... a country that is EAGER to connect with the evil, imperialistic America? The country that is ranked as the most unfriendly in the world? I'm shocked!

One thing to say Thank God Pr

One thing to say Thank God President Bush is no Bill Clinton!!! 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.