It seems like CNN (and not Fox News) is on every public TV. But one hotel chain has decided that the liberal news network crossed the line when it showed a terrorist video. Reports the AP:
A Midwest hotel chain has pulled CNN from the TV channel lineup in its guest rooms, saying the cable network was aiding terrorism with the broadcast of a video showing Iraqi snipers shooting at U.S. troops.
The broadcast, which aired Oct. 18 on CNN and CNN Headline News, featured portions of a tape the network said it obtained from a rebel group, Islamic Army of Iraq.
It crossed the line from journalism to propaganda, said James Thompson, president of Iowa-based Stoney Creek Hospitality Corp. ''It was shocking and repulsive,'' he said. ''Their actions supported terrorism.''
Comments from guests are running 3-to-1 in favor of the decision, Thompson said.
The chain has hotels in East Peoria, Moline, Quincy and Galena, Ill. Columbia and St. Joseph, Mo.; Des Moines and Waukon, Iowa, and La Crosse and Wausau, Wis.
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Truely, when the drive by med
November 17, 2006 - 12:02 ET by bassndudeTruely, when the drive by media is spurned by those who cater to drive bye's, it is a testament to their demise...do they count hotels as one house hold or many?
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Book a room now! They look l
November 17, 2006 - 12:06 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveBook a room now! They look like a nice cozy place to stay. I will seek out Stoney Brook Inns in my travels, they deserve my hard-earned money. Their wesite lists the following locations:
Illinois
Iowa
Missouri
Wisconsin
The one in Moline, Illinois is also looking for an Assistant General Manager.
'When you wade into political life you have every right to say what you want, but you cannot in turn argue that no one has the right to take you on'... --Rush Limbaugh
Came in to see the name of th
November 17, 2006 - 14:36 ET by danboCame in to see the name of the chain. Where to stay. Unfortunately seems they're not where I usually head
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
Visiting Stoney Creek Inns
November 19, 2006 - 00:41 ET by nkviking75If you're staying in an Iowa location, come soon. Next year you may find yourself in a hotel with several would-be presidents. Hey, maybe the Democrat candidates will boycott Stoney Creek for shutting out the official Democrat Party network.
We have one
November 19, 2006 - 23:56 ET by Mr. BishopLiving just a short distance away from Wausau, WI, I have stayed in the Stoney Creek Inn on 2 or 3 seperate occassions. It's a very nice chain in truth, and the rooms are quite nice as well. The decision to remove CNN just boosts my opinion of their service now...
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Cannot wait to start hearin
November 17, 2006 - 12:11 ET by davidrw70Cannot wait to start hearing the 'CENSORSHIP' rantings from our left 'leaning' friends..........should be hilarious......
'You lose the debate when you let someone distract you from the original idea of the debate.'
please email, write, contact
November 17, 2006 - 12:23 ET by buddycplease email, write, contact marriott's chain and tell them you will not stay in their hotel until they replace cnn with fox.
they are good conservative people. there is no reason for them to finance cnn.
Replace? I've never stayed
November 17, 2006 - 12:30 ET by JasonCReplace? I've never stayed at a hotel that didn't have CNN and Fox. I mean, they're just local channel lineups, it's not like a mutually exclusive Coke/Pepsi thing is it?
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
FOX Blocked
November 17, 2006 - 12:34 ET by SamThat is NOT true. FOX News in not available in many hotels I've stayed at. But I've never stayed at a hotel that didn't have CNN. You may be confusing the regular FOX channel, which I agree is always available but FOX News is different.
Nope, FoxNews. I watch it w
November 17, 2006 - 12:38 ET by JasonCNope, FoxNews. I watch it whenever I'm in hotels or visiting family because I don't have cable at home (of course, I flip to regular Fox for Simpsons rereuns too). I've never seen it blocked, and this is in the Northeast. But I'm not exactly a frequent hotel-guest so I'm probably not the biggest authority. Blocking it just seems like such a pissy, spiteful move, I can't imagine why a hotel thinks they would benefit from it.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
While in Disney the only news
November 17, 2006 - 12:52 ET by Dan The Man 2While in Disney the only news is CNN or MSNBC
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
“…such a pissy, spiteful
November 17, 2006 - 13:34 ET by JPR1“…such a pissy, spiteful move.”
So you consider CNNs’ decision to air the video…what?
(And “to present the brutal truth about the war” is bull***t so forget that idea.)
Do you really think Mr Thompsons motive was to benefit? Get a CLUE!
JPR1, my characterization &qu
November 17, 2006 - 14:34 ET by JasonCJPR1, my characterization "such a pissy, spiteful move" was in regards to other hotel chains dropping FoxNews with no explanation, as opposed to the hotel owner who at least had a cogent and articulated explanation for dropping CNN. All this aside, these business owners can do whatever they want.
So...reread my post and get a clue yourself Mr. Reactionary.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
I reread it JasonC
November 19, 2006 - 01:04 ET by SportPoliticsI reread it JasonC, and had to since I got the same impression BOTH times as "mr reactionary".
First you claim Fox is NEVER blocked. Of course CNN it has been established IS, then you call blocking pissy.
It's pretty clear where LOGIC takes any normal non-liberal person.
Of course, blocking enemy propaganda is " a bad business decision" according to libidiot traitors like you, I gathered that much as well.
I'm sure you can screech Dixie Chics again soon, don't worry.
Awww, SP is calling me out.
November 19, 2006 - 01:19 ET by JasonCAwww, SP is calling me out.
Here was my original post, verbatim:
"Nope, FoxNews. I watch it whenever I'm in hotels or visiting family
because I don't have cable at home (of course, I flip to regular Fox
for Simpsons rereuns too). I've never seen it blocked, and this is in
the Northeast. But I'm not exactly a frequent hotel-guest so I'm
probably not the biggest authority. Blocking it just seems like such a
pissy, spiteful move, I can't imagine why a hotel thinks they would
benefit from it."
CNN is never even mentioned. Only FoxNews is. Therefore, the pronoun "it" refers to Fox. I never have seen Fox blocked in a hotel, but I agree that it may be happening and admit that I'm not in hotels enough to really judge it. to summarize, I don't particularly care what any hotels do in this matter, but I did point out somewhere else that I did find it admirable that the small motel owner articulated exactly why he was banning CNN and stuck by it, rather than just banning it for no reason like some chains apparently did to Fox. As for the midwest thing, so sorry if you were insulted. Someone else here was talkin' trash about the east coast so I replied in jest. Even the guy who originally called me on the Fox/CNN thing gets it now (see below).
"Libidiot"? Bravo for that one. Wouldn't "Libiot" at least be a little more graceful?
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Once again goofball JasonC
November 19, 2006 - 01:32 ET by SportPoliticsOnce again goofball JasonC, your own words betray your lies. You denounce the person who said Fox is blocked where he stays, by claiming you know better, and it isn't blocked.
Then you have to admit you rarely stay at a hotel and therefore may be incorrect. Of course you're happy to then admit blocking is "pissy", since you've established only CNN is blocked and not FOX, therefore the pissy Fox neocons are doing the dirty.
No matter how much you protest, your egghead has betrayed it's own stupidity, and you're busted. PERIOD.
I'm sorry you can't read ba
November 19, 2006 - 01:35 ET by JasonCI'm sorry you can't read basic English. Go back to the beginning of the thread and read slooowwwly. I only commented that I'd never personally seen Fox banned. As always, you're twisting things around.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
No you are the twister, and now I twisted your head off.
November 19, 2006 - 01:44 ET by SportPoliticsNo you are the twister, and now you I twisted your head off.
A regular says he has experienced FoxNews blocked and you object, calling him a liar, by your own experience. Then , even though your experience is short, you claim blocking is "pissy", because of course Fox never is, just CNN.
In other spots you claim CNN is wanted at the drunken doofusfest in Boston, and Fox isn't, negating your earliar stance that "Fox wouldn't be banned and isn't at hotels". If further decays your stance that doing it is "pissy" and against best business, since you GIVE YOUR OWN EXAMPLE HOW IT WAS GOOD FOR YOUR BUSINESS.
I mean JasonC, you moronic turdbrained liberals take every opposition position on the every deal and destroy half your own opposition with your OWN talking points.
Let's review JasonC stances:
" They never ban Foxnews at hotels"
" Banning is pissy"
" Banning is against best business practice "
" I "banned" Foxnews at my barjob because everyone demanded it "
" I'm not really an expert like I said about hotels banning because I rarely stay at any Holday Inn"
" The SportNeoCon can't read what I've written properly"
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It's very clear what you wrote gasbag JasonC. Fox isn't banned except at the you bartendered bar where they demanded it, banning CNN is pissy, and anyone who experienced otherwise is a liar, and you never really said any of the above.
YES I GET IT JASON C.
Uh Sports, just to reiterate,
November 19, 2006 - 17:58 ET by JasonCUh Sports, just to reiterate, you don't put things in quotes unless they were said that way verbatim.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Oh screw off you liar JasonC, you're still busted.
November 20, 2006 - 02:48 ET by SportPoliticsOh screw off you liar JasonC, you're still busted.
Now it will be explained to Indiana Joe.
Sam
November 19, 2006 - 03:00 ET by SportPoliticsSam, opposite bizarro world boy obviously doesn't have much experience.
blabberer [ I mean, they're just local* channel lineups,...]
SAM MISSILE TARGET ACQUIRED {That is NOT true. FOX News is not available in many hotels I've stayed at.You may be confusing the regular FOX channel(LOCAL*), which I agree is always available but FOX News is different.}
blabberer boy can't be wrong [ Nope, FoxNews... But I'm not exactly a frequent hotel-guest so I'm probably not the biggest authority. ]
OH GEE IMAGINE THAT, LOUDMOUTH DETRACTOR ISN'T THE BIGGEST AUTHORITY HERE IN THE MATTER. WOW, IT CANNOT BE CAN IT ?
Dan the Man 2 adds another point which JasonC blabberer boy avoids the entire thread so far [ While in Disney the only news is CNN or MSNBC]
Yes it's flyover time for that as well Dan tM2, give that cloaker back to sarc.
Sam, I've seen FoxNews banned at a couple of areas of hotels about 5 years back, since I couldn't get the O'Reilly Factor, and it was disappointing then.
Is Fox allowed in Canada yet ? They've broken the Canadian ban haven't they ? LOL
Will the United States be more successful in Iraq than in Vietna
November 17, 2006 - 12:31 ET by SamPoll on CNN today: Will the United States be more successful in Iraq than in Vietnam?
...and 75% of dopey libs on CNN say NO! Me thinks that's wishfull thinking on their part so they can say - see, Bush was wrong. Sad, very sad.
Answer that CNN poll
November 17, 2006 - 14:46 ET by Eric TurnerEveryone here should go over and answer that CNN poll. You can bet that those idiots over at DU and Kos are rallying the Moonbat Legion to do it.
I had a left coast friend ask
November 17, 2006 - 12:34 ET by mitchsnI had a left coast friend ask me why I thought it was wrong for CNN to show this video.
I guess morality doesn't exist there anymore, glad I moved.
Come on now, New England inve
November 17, 2006 - 12:45 ET by JasonCCome on now, New England invented morality, what with the Puritans and all. As to the locations of the hotel that banned CNN, I could say "Who in their right mind would visit those towns anyway?" but I don't want to malign the entire midwest.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
They may have had morality on
November 17, 2006 - 12:55 ET by Dan The Man 2They may have had morality once but have abandoned it in favor of immorality and the Demorats. The right coast and left coast are becoming indistinquishable.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.
Your using a biblical quotati
November 17, 2006 - 13:33 ET by JPR1Your using a biblical quotation for your tag line but wish to assert that the Puritians invented morality.
“…don’t want to malign the entire midwest.”
But you do wish to imply that these towns are somehow deficient or unworthy?
C’mon pal…your sounding like a moron and a pri**.
Not all Christians are humorl
November 17, 2006 - 14:38 ET by JasonCNot all Christians are humorless. And besides which, if you actually thought that my "Puritans" line was meant to be taken literally, I really can't help you.
And my midwest comment was simply to point out that we East Coasters get bashed for referring to "flyover territory" but it's not rare that the East Coast gets associated with all sorts of unsavory un-American things. Not that I think it's that big a deal. I was being facetious and humorous and all that.
I think you and SportPolitics would really get along.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Ah where to begin…“I’ve
November 17, 2006 - 19:30 ET by JPR1Ah where to begin…
“I’ve never seen it blocked and this is in the Northeast.” You are refering to FOX News here right?
“Blocking it seems like such a pissy, spiteful move,…” You are refering to CNN here right?
“…was in regards to other hotel chains dropping FOX News without explanation,…” I’ve reread the Blog Post and the comments and this event has not been mentioned. Can you fill me in or did this just pop into your head?
“…I can’t imagine why a hotel thinks they would benefit from it.” It was not the “hotel” that blocked it; it was the owner of the hotel, a man, with strong principles, who I conclude blocked the network not for the benefit of his interests but most likely because he felt it might, in a small but distinct way, benefit the nation.
“…thought that my "Puritans" line was meant to be taken literally,…” & “…midwest comment…”
Pardon me, my facetiousness filter was set on 3. I guess I had better just turn it off.
“…it's not rare that the East Coast gets associated with all sorts of unsavory un-American things.” Hmmm, now why might that be?
“I think you and SportPolitics would really get along.”
Man, if you think I’m reactionary, SP must really get under your skin!
He can be a little extreme and is not a guy who is going to win any awards for decorum, but he’s got his beliefs, calls it like he sees it and I can’t say off-hand that I’ve ever found myself in serious dissagrement with his ideas. With a few drinks, yeah we’d have a ball. Fifteen years ago I would not have lasted 24 hours on a site like this. Ya missed me in my prime bud.
Speaking of drinks, it’s about that time here in “fly-over” land. Later.
I’ve never seen it blocke
November 18, 2006 - 12:32 ET by JasonCI’ve never seen it blocked and this is in the Northeast.” You are refering to FOX News here right?
Yes. simply pointing out that if hotels engage in the censorship of FoxNews, I have not been privy to it.
Blocking it seems like such a pissy, spiteful move,…” You are refering to CNN here right?
No. Reread. I was referring to Fox being censored at hotel chains. Here is the post, undedited: "Nope, FoxNews. I watch it whenever I'm in hotels or visiting family
because I don't have cable at home (of course, I flip to regular Fox
for Simpsons rereuns too). I've never seen it blocked, and this is in
the Northeast. But I'm not exactly a frequent hotel-guest so I'm
probably not the biggest authority. Blocking it just seems like such a
pissy, spiteful move, I can't imagine why a hotel thinks they would
benefit from it."
It doesn't normally bother me when someone misreads my posts, but when they just assume I'm maligning convservative values and use the opportunity to insult me, it's a bit irritating. As to the flyover stuff, I consider that all in good fun. Nothing wrong with a geographical feud. Bash away on the East Coast if you must.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Darn, it appears my “Convol
November 18, 2006 - 20:37 ET by JPR1Darn, it appears my “Convoluted Comment Decoder” software has gone buggy. I’ll have to look at that.
Since the focus of the thread is the blocking of CNN, is it safe to assume your statement applies to this as well? Is it safe to assume you feel Thompsons actions are without merit or significance?
JPR1
November 19, 2006 - 01:19 ET by SportPoliticsTry liberal demento liar disorder. JC the libbieman quacks out that Foxnews isn't blocked after another has claimed to have experienced it, and after all the opposition from turdylib he mentions the fact that he rarely goes to a hotel anyway.
Dude, talking to a ******' lib is like talking to a 3yr old expert on nuclear physics who screams "you're wrong", then claims to have only watched 1 episode of The Simpsons to have gained all the expertise.
I'm sure gasbag boy has 36 different ways to restate differently what he already stated but can't admit to.
"Nuh uh !!!! Not here !!! you're full of it !!! Well !! Uhh... yeah I uhh.. well not often I stayed at motel6 once but still !! - you just hate me cause I'm not Foxneocon..."
The obvious was never stated though:
Everyone knows you always check the hotel sign for HBO free here.
SportPolitics,Yeah. I sorta f
November 19, 2006 - 14:05 ET by JPR1SportPolitics,
Yeah. I sorta feel like I wasted my time posting at all. Re-re-reading his posts I’m not really sure he ever really stated anything at all. So… I made some inferences…..… he’s a whinny lib who hates the balanced efforts of FOX, but needs to express his notion of fairness by dancing around the idea that CNN has received favored treatment in “public-space” presentations and FOX has never been shortchanged. This is changing and his kind will just have to get used to it.
I have a dastardly idea, a big sting: We need to establish an alternate persona for you; say a Mr Clay Moore; a mild mannered party functionary from West Undershirt, Idaho or some such place; get you into the national picture for some bogus reason; get you booked with Chris Matthews; then, maybe 45 seconds into the interview you could, “go-off”. Be the best TV of the century IMO!
For the love of.....OK, here'
November 19, 2006 - 17:56 ET by JasonCFor the love of.....
OK, here's my position since it's apparently in demand. I don't particularly agree with the motel owner's decision to ban CNN, but I admire that he did so out of pure and sincere conviction. If you're going to do something like that, I say good for him for putting his cards on the table and not backing down about it. As for other hotels banning Fox, I've never come across it personally but I don't particularly doubt that it happens. And if it does happen, I think it's ridiculous ("pissy"). Those hotels should at least have the forthright attitude to publicly state WHY they're denying their guests access to a popular channel.
The funny thing is, my position hasn't changed on this ONCE throughout this thread. I just have to keep restating it for SportPolitics who keeps trying to turn it into something it never was. All my comments have also been moderated, which of course automatically makes me look like the unreasonable one. Apparently this goal includes attributing quotations to me that I never said. Sports, when you put quotes around someting, that means it's what the other person said verbatim, not what you're trying to turn it into.
Sport, I look forward to your hysterical diatribe of a reply, no doubt laced with emphatically italicized and bold typeface, and gracefully capped off with some droll portmanteau of "liberal" and "moron."
Oh and the comment about me being beaten with a 2x4 and/or bat....while I can't entirely make out your precise implication through your sloppy prose style, that's pretty much crossing the line between message-board-flaming and sociopathic.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
I don’t know that your posi
November 19, 2006 - 21:50 ET by JPR1I don’t know that your position is necessarily “in demand”, but I, for one, have concluded that it deserves an award for nuance. Thanks for the clarification.
BTW: I read in “Display All Comments” mode and am untrained in the art of moderating. Thought about trying late one night, but was afraid of being tagged for MWI. :}
you're alright JPR....sorry
November 19, 2006 - 23:42 ET by JasonCyou're alright JPR....sorry for any bad blood. And by "in demand" I only meant SP's challenge that I wouldn't reply at all. Cheers, JC
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
I was just browsing, and came
November 20, 2006 - 02:03 ET by Indiana JoeI was just browsing, and came across this sub-thread. I kept following it, and was kind of surprised how it developed. I think the confusion started pretty simply, and just snow-balled from there. Here's where I think the mix-up occurred, way up top:
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Sam Says:
November 17, 2006 - 11:34 That is NOT true. FOX News in not available in many hotels I've stayed at. But I've never stayed at a hotel that didn't have CNN. You may be confusing the regular FOX channel, which I agree is always available but FOX News is different.
JasonC Says:
November 17, 2006 - 11:38 Nope, FoxNews. I watch it whenever I'm in hotels or visiting family because I don't have cable at home (of course, I flip to regular Fox for Simpsons rereuns too). I've never seen it blocked, and this is in the Northeast. But I'm not exactly a frequent hotel-guest so I'm probably not the biggest authority. Blocking it just seems like such a pissy, spiteful move, I can't imagine why a hotel thinks they would benefit from it.
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See, at this point, I thought it was clear that, after Sam thought JasonC was confusing local Fox channels with FoxNews, JasonC replied, "Nope, FoxNews." And blocking THAT is what JasonC referred to as a "pissy, spiteful move." That was my take, anyway. And I was surprised no one else seemed to see it that way.
I kept waiting for someone to re-read these posts, and realize what I thought they said, taken together. I even went back myself, just to be sure, but I kept seeing it the same way. Now, JasonC seems to have validated my thoughts on it. WHEW! I was starting to think I'd missed something. And I have to agree with this statement of his, too:
"The funny thing is, my position hasn't changed on this ONCE throughout this thread."
True, as far as I can tell. As The Grateful Dead observed, "What a long, strange trip it's been!"
I just have one more question for JPR1: what is MWI? Oh, wait, an epiphany!
"Moderating While Intoxicated," right? Honest, that JUST occurred to me! LOL!
I'm a relative newbie, and asked about that one time. The way it seems to work is, the moderation you do is for your view only. I've never done it either, I like to see the good, the bad, AND the "ugly," LOL. But, I've seen people write about "being moderated," (like JasonC mentions) so maybe I don't quite understand it myself. ... ;^)
Night, y'all. It made for FASCINATING reading!
IJ
Ok Indiana Joe, time for you to learn about liberals.
November 20, 2006 - 03:19 ET by SportPoliticsOk Indiana Joe, time for you to learn about liberals. You cannot allow liberals ever changing excuses to befuddle your mind and to clearly see where they are dancing around in a never ending lie. Pay attention to what JasonC posits:
buddyc suggests Marriot be called to replace CNN with Fox.
jasonc replies negatively to replacement, that CNN and Fox are always in hotels together, and local channels, not "Coke and Pepsi competitors".
Sam says not true, he has been where Fox is not present at Hotels, and the NEWS portion is not local.
( So far JasonC has claimed Fox is never banned, and has decried the idea that CNN be replaced, claiming that FOXNEWS and CNN aren't "competitors". This alone is enough to throw him over portside, as all should well know. He's aghast at the idea of replacing CNN with Fox, my- they aren't competitors, they're "local channel lineups". )
JasonC responds to Sam> never blocked he says. Why a hotel would think they could benefit is beyond him.
dan chimes in with cnn and msnbc only at Disney spots, and is completely ignored, since this destroys JasonC's never banned or replaced premise.
JPR1 asks about JasonC's opinion on CNN snipe video airing, and is not answered, but instead called "reactionary". JasonC was already "reactionary" at the suggestion of Fox replacing CNN at conservative owned Marriot, arguing both are always everywhere, and this CNN "banning" at the 10 spot hotel *shouldn't continue elsewhere*- according to JasonC - they aren't competitors, and no hotel would have an advantage in so doing- he just couldn't imagine one he already said.
JPR1 in the same statement pointed out that the 10 spot hotel owner did it for the USA, not for "good business".
JasonC ignores that, and first claims he "pissy" meant all those hotel chains who drop Fox with "no explanation". First of all, he never admitted any dropped Fox. Secondly, he already avoided two answers. Thirdly, he claims any who dropped Fox has no explanation, which he OBVIOUSLY HAS NO IDEA ABOUT AT ALL, since seconds before he claimed noone had dropped Fox to his knowledge and denied it happens, with what, an inexperience caveat...
So you see, Indiana Joe, the web of lies and deception and avoidance JasonC is weaving is already off to quite a start.
I will add, JasonC then tells his tale later about how his local bartender job had him banning Foxnews in favor of CNN, by his boss, the brewmaster, and the customers.
PS - The explanation about the banning of CNN was given after press inquiry, not as an announcement, and the assumption that whatever Hotel chain has banned Fox "never had a cogent explanation or gave one" is a HUGE error on mr JasonC grasping at lies and assumptions for defensive posturing.
So, we have someone who never changed his position so he claims, but his position was:
1. Fox is never banned
2. It's a horror to think you want FOX to replace CNN, they aren't competitors.
3. I didn't really mean #2 because I support my lying idea that it was announced and explained by this 10 hotels guy in flyover land, not run under the radar like Foxnews bans that never happen.
4. I won't comment on wether or not I agree that CNN was a traitor in airing terrorists snuff video. ( I reserve the right to claim I implied support when I supported the idea that the guy had an explanation for banning. However, I am aware that if I claim this support was my answered opinion about CNN's disgrace in airing, I realize all my other implications are open to "sticking" on me. My best bet is the demolib plan, never answer, and since I'm stupid, ignore entirely. This way I can't be attacked for supporting terrorists too, nor will it seem that I disagree with the "cogent explanation" that makes the CNN ban not "pissy", like my claimed "phantom Fox news bans "are acording to me who know of NONE".)
5. I lied when I made up the idea that Fox was banned without explanation - using it as a defense - a defense I have no idea exists, since I have no clue if it's true or not. I'm redundantly ignorant.
6. Therefore I got it wrong about the hotel guy deserving my support because "he had an explanation", and have pissed my whole "pissy" thing down the drain anyway.
7. I can think of a thousand reasons why I want FoxNews banned but I'll never say it in this thread. High Priestess help me that they( that Sport "drunkard" that never drinks nor does drugs) don't bring my former statements in other threads here to prove that.
8. I won't restore free access to my sexual opression of women in movie / tv thesis, because it's insane and people here know it. Give me your IP(request user pass) and one of my college buddies can hack away at your system if you want to see it.
9. I tried to get Sport to do that, but it didn't work. He knows too much about computers.Screw his hidden IP program if he uses one.
10. In the end, if Fox has been banned, CNN was and I won't say if I support that for the reason given by the CEO, and they never said why they banned Fox wherever they did because I don't believe it, if they did, so there. I banned Fox at my bartender job because all the customers and my boss demanded it. I didn't say all the customers you a** Sports !
11. I'm a victim who has been moderated. Feel my pain.
Joe Indiana, that's how it goes buddy.
Wow, you sure do put a lot
November 20, 2006 - 11:47 ET by JasonCWow, you sure do put a lot of time into these polemics, don't you? To quote Seinfeld, "I think we've learned a little something about who's sane and who's not."
See the quotation marks Sporty? These things: " " That means I'm quoting someone, not trying to misrepresent his statement.
As for your hacker comments, I don't know what that's supposed to mean. The blog with my dastardly writing is just set to "friends only". It's livejournal man, not some cutting edge site, and I can barely get my own email let alone hack anything.
Are we about through with this absurd, out of control thread?
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Oh, and Joe, thanks for the
November 20, 2006 - 11:49 ET by JasonCOh, and Joe, thanks for the support. You can see what I have to deal with around here.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
Well, as I said, I just thoug
November 21, 2006 - 01:27 ET by Indiana JoeWell, as I said, I just thought the whole thing traced back to that take on your reply to Sam. Your remark about "local channel line-ups" may have contributed. I took that to mean, the hotel buys a local package of channels, as in "basic" or "expanded basic," from the local cable company. That's how I buy my cable, and it has what it has, and doesn't have what it doesn't have. Areas all around me have access to channels that I don't. Maybe I'm mistaken there, too. One of my parent's old expressions was "everybody's out of step but Johnny." Has to do with one guy being right and everyone else wrong. So maybe that's me, since everyone else thinks you said something (in fact, several "somethings") that I'm just not seeing.
I haven't had a decent night's sleep in about two weeks, so I don't have time right now to go through the whole thread.....again! I still feel pretty sure I got it right the first time, but when I get some proper zzzs under my belt, maybe I'll give it all another look. But the thread is getting awfully squeezed. We'll be down to one-word lines pretty soon!
This is like solving an Agatha Christie mystery! Never was any good at those either. The butler seemed to NEVER do it, LOL
'night, all..... ( | ^ |)
Okay, Sport, I've grabbed a f
November 21, 2006 - 09:16 ET by Indiana JoeOkay, Sport, I've grabbed a few hours sleep. And I still see it differently. JPR1 seems convinced, and I discovered a JoeBob below who seems to have understood the original posts I pointed out in the same way I did. So I don't feel so much like I'm a voice in the wilderness as I did before.
I still maintain that original exchange between Sam and JasonC is what started the whole shebang. There are many references throughout the thread, some being your own, that start from that premise. But I feel the premise is a mistaken one. And starting from a mistaken premise is bound to lead to mistaken conclusions. We catch the libs "steering" debate in the same way, all the time. You're one of the masters at that, I give you credit (catching "them," I mean, not intentionally "steering" the debate).
But in this case, I can't agree. IF you accept the premise that JasonC merely stated that he had never stayed at a hotel that didn't carry FoxNews, AND that he states in the same post that he doesn't stay in many hotels so doesn't claim to be an "authority," AND that in his opinion, blocking it (referring to FoxNews, I DO believe) is a "pissy" move, then the whole premise of the following attacks crumbles. I also read his comment of being in the Northeast as pointing out that it is a highly Liberal area, just to make the point that even there, he hasn't seen this happen. But he NEVER states anywhere, unequivically, that it never happens.
Sure, some points are raised that he doesn't answer. The "Disney only carries CNN and MSNBC" remark is really irrelevant to the argument. I believe whoever said that, since I've never stayed at a Disney resort, so am in no position to cotradict it. I suspect JasonC finds himself in the same boat. So, why reply when he has no knowledge?
Maybe in some other places, JasonC and you have gone head-to-head. There seems to be some bad blood on both sides, with insults back and forth. I don't know about that, I have no part in that, strictly between the two of you. But in this particular thread, I consider JasonC to be what Curly Howard used to call "a victim of circumstance." The circumstance of the original misundertood posting. All the rest flows from there.
This is now, what, a 3-day-old thread? Or is it 4? I think whatever minds will be changed, HAVE been changed. Time to maybe just let it go, and, if necessary, agree to disagree.
Regards,
IJ
JPR1
November 20, 2006 - 02:35 ET by SportPoliticsWell of course he didn't JPR1, just like when he pulled his stupid profile linked webpage about his thesis on sexual domination of women in movies, and banned access to it without request for a password. He got embarrassed by his own stupidity, just as he should be here.
It is clear exactly what his stance was from the beginning, and he wants backtrack and I didn't mean it points. If his little bar ban story is true, why would he be so stupid as to claim anyone banning would be doing bad business ? Because he's a damned stupid liberal gasbag, that's why. I'm sure he'd try to claim one area, say a bar, is not indicative of any much vaster region - as an excuse - but let's face the facts that FoxNews has been popularly demonized and any idiot who has attended college let alone is attempting to teach ought to be remotely aware of that.
Then it's fun when the little turds reverse gears and "praise" the right winger who bans their left wing network, for "actually standing up and announcing it", which as the DIMWIT JasonC is apparently not aware, DID NOT happen in this case.
Yes, even in his "defense" of not being a "liberal", the IDIOT JasonC obviously FAILED to comprehend any of the stories on the 10 spot Hotel chain. They never "announced" banning CNN.
Inquiries were made after a reporter somehow got a call from a guest or perhaps stayed at one. The corporation was contacted, and it was sometime before they "got a response".
SO, they didn't stand up and announce it, and the jackass JasonC made that one up out of his thin grey matter as well.
Yeah, thanks for the compliment, JPR1, I'd love to be able to rip Chrissy a new one.
I'm guessing JasonC will explain in intimate detail that he never said they announced it, what he really meant and said was that he was proud that they admitted it when confronted, or rather actually gave an explanation... instead of no comment or a denial...like Bill Clinton's denials...or just ignore it, whatever.
On and on and on it goes, and when a lib lies he's the only one that doesn't know.
JasonC, Just gotta th
November 20, 2006 - 12:36 ET by JoeBobJasonC,
Just gotta throw my two cents in here, since I read and re-read your initial comments and had no trouble parsing them. However, if you must complain about being misread, the initial comment wrt sections of the country referred to the "left coast". Whether geographically or as wordplay, I believe "left coast" refers to the West Coast, not the East (or "least" :-)) Coast. It's all good, though. I've always enjoyed conversing with you, even when we haven't agreed. Shake it off and chalk it up to the blog-monsters.
Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious
Hey JoeBob, thanks for the
November 20, 2006 - 12:48 ET by JasonCHey JoeBob, thanks for the kind words. I guess you're right about the coast thing, left would be west wouldn't it? Hopefully no one took my jabs at the midwest too seriously. As for the CNN/fox stuff, glad you got it. I haven't the energy to summarize it again, but SP will only understand what he wants to understand, so why bother. See ya 'round.
"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18
JPR1 - don't expect a comment from JasonC on this
November 19, 2006 - 02:39 ET by SportPoliticsJPR1 - don't expect a comment from JasonC on this
[JC“…was in regards to other hotel chains dropping FOX News without explanation,…” JPR1 I’ve reread the Blog Post and the comments and this event has not been mentioned. Can you fill me in or did this just pop into your head?]
Yes, it was JC headpop, with massive assumption all around. First that Foxnews never is dropped ( or banned ), or that if it ever was, it's "spiteful" to do it without announcing, stupid if you do, except at JC's bartender bar.
That's really the nasty little "liberal bias" of the news that would forever attempt to avoid reporting that Foxnews isn't available in certain Hotel chains(fearing backlash - Rush commentary- etc. - why point out a good thing that might go sour with attention?), and certainly lefty hotel management wouldn't want to report their lack of total spectrum to their potential "republican business" guests. No reporting on lefties "censoring" allowed !
But, report away on some Midwest religious based neocon sportmen's throwback area that "can't handle the truth" as long as it's only 10 hotels banning CNN, we can make it look ridiculous and validate CNN's left wing hate the USA terrorist winning snuff video.
JasonC except you just did malign the entire midwest
November 19, 2006 - 01:11 ET by SportPoliticsJasonC except you just did malign the entire midwest
[ As to the locations of the hotel that banned CNN, I could say "Who in their right mind would visit those towns anyway?" but I don't want to malign the entire midwest.]
JasonC I would call you a lying opportunistic smart aleck liberal gasbag, but I wouldn't want to malign you.
Response
November 19, 2006 - 23:44 ET by CRDYou're nuts buddy.
lol- oh no not the "response" loser
November 19, 2006 - 23:49 ET by SportPoliticslol- oh no not the "response" loser.
miss spamololib, you win the Sunday night tamponette trophy. The hater inner child soul in all your fellow liberals remains jealous. Be proud, and stay in the closet, please.
SP - I kinda missed this guy.
November 19, 2006 - 23:54 ET by Free StinkerSP - I kinda missed this guy. Having 'RESPONSE' in every subject field allows us to quickly identify amusing and poorly thought out comments.
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
The MSM supports the troops. The enemy's troops!
Indeed
November 19, 2006 - 23:57 ET by Mr. BishopSort of like the word, "Indeed". However, I particularly enjoy reading the endless ad hominem attacks by CRD on about people being "childish, etc.", without any attempt to actually take on the basis of an argument.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Response
November 20, 2006 - 00:01 ET by CRDThank you , I appreciate your kind words.
CRD,
November 20, 2006 - 00:03 ET by BlondeSo what's up Girlfriend?
You mad at me or something?
Dear CRuD
November 20, 2006 - 00:04 ET by SportPoliticsDear CRuD, I see now you only want to be appreciated, even if it be for stupidity. Mission Accomplished.
Huh?
November 20, 2006 - 00:06 ET by Mr. BishopYou MUST be having difficulty reading tonight, that's the only explanation. If you can view my response, in ragards to you, in any positive light whatsoever, then you need to seriously attend some classes containing information on Hooked on Phonics.
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Did you notice Mr. Bishop...
November 20, 2006 - 00:08 ET by SportPoliticsDid you notice Mr. Bishop...the server seems to be trying to belch out another liberal.
Response
November 20, 2006 - 00:08 ET by CRDNonsense
Hey I can do that too. Watch
November 20, 2006 - 00:10 ET by ChemicalOperatorHey I can do that too. Watch carefully everyone.
Nonesense
Foolish point
Childish.
Do you have anything constructive to add to the site CRD or are you just being an O2 bandit?
DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"
CRD
November 20, 2006 - 00:13 ET by BlondeLearn to read yet, Girlfriend?
Didn't think so....
Explain
November 20, 2006 - 00:13 ET by Mr. BishopInstead of the one word, two syllable answers, why not explain what is "nonsense". You thanked me for "kind words" even though I gave no kind words to you. I tell you to learn how to read because you can't seem to grasp that concept, and you say, "nonsense". By what philosophy, or basic thought process, do you classify your inability to read, as being "nonsense"?
"Stop global warming! Asphyxiate a liberal!" - Show us how far you're willing to go to stop "global warming"
Response
November 20, 2006 - 00:29 ET by CRDWell now that I have the attention of so many new-busters bloggers please read my top
10 list for the majority of Newbusters contributors.
1. The vast majority of you are right-wing idiots. ( fascist )
2. Bush hasn't a clue.
3. Democrats control both houses of congress.
4. You need to find something more constructive to do with your time.
5. Likely lack anything other than a high school education, if that.
6. Think you know all about the world but are actually clueless
7. Live in the south.
8. Overweight
9. Drink cheap liquor
10. Love shopping at Walmart
Enjoy and have a nice day.
CRD - Sorry, what did you say
November 20, 2006 - 00:33 ET by Free StinkerCRD - Sorry, what did you say?
We weren't paying attention.
CRD
November 20, 2006 - 00:33 ET by BlondeYou are a cheap little Girlfriend.
And none to bright, either.
Oh Oh stereo types.I think it
November 20, 2006 - 00:40 ET by ChemicalOperatorOh Oh stereo types.
I think its my turn
Top ten things to know about liberal contributors.
1 The vast majority of you are left wing idiots
2. Kerry looks like a horse.
3. Democrats couldnt run a bake sale efficiently, let alone congress.
4. You need to get off welfare and find a job.
5. Likely work at a job that requires a grill, cash register and a phrase like "Welcome to burger king"
6. Believes you were abducted by aliens at least once.
7. Probably gay or at least bi-sexual.
8. Vegetarian or something, Animals are people too right?
9. Drink expensive poor tasting exotic alcohol that makes than feel "refined"
10. Believe at least one government agency has them on there "Radar".
Enjoy and have a nice day.
DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"
11. Drive a hybrid because it
November 20, 2006 - 00:45 ET by dmntd111. Drive a hybrid because it will "save them money" LOL
Please make sure your train of thought carries freight.
Response
November 20, 2006 - 00:50 ET by CRDWell done, You did a great job.
CRD
November 20, 2006 - 00:52 ET by BlondeThanks, Girlfriend.
You're a sweet little troll.
Well Blonde
November 20, 2006 - 01:09 ET by SportPoliticsWell Blonde,
CRuDguppy lost that contest, he had to concede the better job done, and then I guess he waddled off dejected and depressed as usual, not a good enough artist or creative enough to beat a conservative. How pathetic for a left wing loser. His poor little libbie fingers must have gotten tired too, he went beyond 5 words in a post.
Sporty,What I can't quite fig
November 20, 2006 - 01:13 ET by BlondeSporty,
What I can't quite figure out is why these trolls continue to show up here. What is the point? How can it be fun to be swimming around like a fish in a barrel with fifteen shotguns aimed at your a**?
I guess they're just really stupid, and thrive on abuse.
I'm out in about ten....interesting day tomorrow.
Response
November 20, 2006 - 01:17 ET by CRDIt obvious that there are many things you have not figured out. Get some rest ,tomorrpw might be a better day.
CRD
November 20, 2006 - 01:24 ET by Blondeooooohhhhh, Girlfriend!
That wasn't very nice.
Mommy will likely ground you for that statement.
Blonde,You can always pull a
November 20, 2006 - 01:29 ET by ChemicalOperatorBlonde,
You can always pull a CRD and say "Grow up" or "I'm telling"
DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"
Laughing.Okay, Chem. Thanks
November 20, 2006 - 01:32 ET by BlondeLaughing.
Okay, Chem. Thanks for the hint.
I'm telling. On CRD. It's up to you now. ;-)
I'm outa here. Nite.
Response
November 20, 2006 - 01:13 ET by CRDAnother silly and childish response. Grow up, please !
You sound like a immature sixth grader.
You sound like a kid that spe
November 20,