On NPR, Bush Vietnam Visit Evokes Talk of 'Weak Christian Aggressors' In Iraq

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President Bush traveling to Vietnam was guaranteed to bring out the Iraq-Vietnam comparisons, especially on National Public Radio. On Wednesday's "Morning Edition," co-host Steve Inskeep interviewed liberal author David Halberstam, who reported on Vietnam for the New York Times. Halberstam warned that we needed to withdraw from Iraq because it wasn't worth the death of "some kid in the Ohio National Guard" for an "undoable" goal. Mysteriously, he suggested withdrawal because the Arab media portrayed America as "weak Christian aggressors." He didn't explain how withdrawal would help that image.  

Inskeep asked him specifically about how during the Vietnam War, President Johnson sent out Robert McNamara (like Bush dumped Rumsfeld) and appointed new defense secretary Clark Clifford, who turned out to be firmly anti-war:  

Inskeep: "Would you remind us, what was the situation in 1967-68 when that other president, Lyndon Johnson, traded secretaries of defense?"

Halberstam: "Well, he was afraid -- Johnson was afraid that McNamara was unraveling under the pressure of being the principal architect of a war that was a failure. That he felt, in his own words, that McNamara had, quote, gone dovish on him. So he fired him, and Clark Clifford was brought in."

Inskeep: "Well, who was that man, Clark Clifford?"

Halberstam: "Clark Clifford was an old-time fixer who had gone back to the Truman years. Johnson thought that he would have conventional thoughts about Vietnam. But Clifford instead, from the very beginning, thought it was a disproportionate investment - didn't work. And where some of the more senior people refused to listen to the word - the reporting coming out of the country - Clifford, from the start, began to ventilate the process and understood that it wasn't working."

Inskeep: "What did he begin to do?"

Halberstam: "He began to try and convince the president that it couldn't be done. He began to try and turn the entire Defense Department to a recognition of the limits of what we were doing, and to convince his colleagues in the other branches of the government that it wasn't doable. And he was pretty lonely in the trenches - Clifford was - for quite a while there."

Inskeep: "What advice would you give Robert Gates based on the experience of Clark Clifford, who had that experience of joining a war in progress and deciding what to do about it?"

Halberstam: "First of all, whatever we do, it's going to be very painful. Staying is going to be painful and it isn't going to work. Pulling back is going to be painful but at least we'll be getting out. That's one thing.

"The second thing is that right now, every night on TV in the Arab world, with Arab spin, in Arab language, there is the taking of the film of what's going on there, and the spin in an anti-American way so that we are profoundly affecting future generations in that area, making them think, A: that we are aggressors, Christian aggressors, and B: that we are weak, Christian - weak and incompetent Christian aggressors.

"It's a twofer, and they're both bad. And the third thing, I would think, is if I had a child -- if we were the parent of that child [?], and knew that the war was considered by the people who were the architects to be undoable, whether we would want to keep going or whether we would want to stop. And that's one of the things we should be thinking about, because it is someone's child. It may not be a child of the upper middle class, it may be some kid in the Ohio National Guard, but we ought to be paying attention. And it doesn't work. And that should be on our mind."

Isn't it fascinating that Halberstam is suggesting that America's foreign policy should be designed with the idea of never offering Arab propagandists a negative image, but he never condemns the Arab propagandist for besmirching our troops or American goals? If Inskeep were doing the interview as an objective journalist instead of serving like a helpful peacenik teacher's assistant, he might ask Halberstam about the flaw in his own spin: If America looks like "weak and incompetent" aggressors, then how does quick withdrawal make us look less weak or incompetent?

—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center.


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Just as the trip was pretty

Just as the trip was pretty-much guaranteed NOT to bring out Cuba-Vietnam policy comparisons...
JMR

Vietnam

Any comparison between Vietnam and Iraq is ludicrous. Does that mean anything to the "intellectuals" at NPR? Nah!

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

iveseenitall...I disagree. If

iveseenitall...I disagree. If the dems do what has been suggested, and cut the funding for the war pulling all support from Iraq, we will have another Vietnam. That is exactly why the south fell in 75. And we will have another killing field. Do not think that Iran will not commit genocide in the name of Islam in Iraq. The fact is that it was the politics that caused the fall in Vietnam, and it is politics that will cause the fall of Iraq.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

That's true

That's true, bassndude. You can compare what will happen when we cut and run to what happened in Vietman. This will be the same, or worse. Unfortunately, it's coming. God help those people.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal 

Most leftists have NO CLUE ab

Most leftists have NO CLUE about the Vietnam War.  They have little understanding of how it was fought, nor any idea of how it ended.

Most liberals think that the bulk of the fighting occured between guerillas from the South called the Vietcong and the US military.  Not true after the 1968 Tet Offensive when the fight became between Infiltrators from the North and US and South Vietnamese forces.

Most liberals think that the South was overwhelmed in 1975 by agrarian guerillas rather than the armored Blitzkrieg launched from the North not unlike the Nazi's in Poland.

Why did the armored invasion from the North succeed?  Because liberals in the US did not allow US aircraft to provide the support that we had promised the South.

 

once again, the condescension

Once again, a liberal appeals for the children:

"And that's one of the things we should be thinking about, because it is someone's child. It may not be a child of the upper middle class, it may be some kid in the Ohio National Guard, blah, blah..."

Is it too much for us to ask, --Is our military comprised of kindergarden tots? ---- The American (and others in the coalition) --G.I. is NOT a child, or some "kid". He's a MAN. If it's a woman, fine; but nobody sent kids to Iraq, not even a single one. Nor are they sent there "to die" as these babblers would put it. They're there to fight. They're FIGHTERS, and the dope on NPR is a Leftist appeaser and quitter.

I find a large issue, with th

I find a large issue, with this as well.

Every man or woman currently in a uniform volunteered for there service. If a US soldier dies, they knew exactly what they were fighting for. The left needs to stop using soldiers as political meat shields. These brave people put there lives on the line and do not need politicians suggesting they are afraid to die.  Our military knows the score and is ready to die to keep us safe.

DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"

"The left needs to stop

"The left needs to stop using soldiers as political meat shields."  You're right; it's what the left does.  They use servicepeople and people to further their agenda.  I've asked many of them what it is they want and they dodge the question with platitudes such as responsible government, clean air and higher wages, freedom over one's body (instead of killing babies), healthcare for all  (who wouldn't want this?  The issue is how--work or not) and separation of church and state--I suppose the ten commandments threaten them somehow.  I wonder which of the commandments they disagree with.  

They want to force things but won't be entirely honest about how and what.

What do you think they want from us?

Never relent.

To be honest, My personal bel

To be honest, My personal belief is they want to destroy moral's and values as they exist. Thats why religion scares them so. 

They want everything that feels good to be allowed, no wrong or right, cuz that makes them feel guilty when they do things that are wrong. I may be wrong but every liberal I have had the pleasure of discussing this with has firmly left me with the impression "I want to do what I want to do, and I do not want any rules". Its very much like a spoiled child.

DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"

Chem... And let their childre

Chem... And let their children wallow in whatever.  How callous is this!!??  I know this--I hate the thought, literally hate, the reality the left will tax me and use the money to kill babies for one thing.  Paying malcontents and thugs to lay off them is another matter. 

Never relent.

It comes down to the self ser

It comes down to the self serving philosophy, when you focus on yourself 24/7 your children are not in your mind. It becomes what can I do to make myself feel good, Its why you see a rise in fake sick time taken.  Its also why they try so hard to have the government become a babysitter, if the government takes care of them, then they do not have to be responsible for their lives.

To me the left in general is very selfish. Everything must be about them and there happiness, no matter what burden it puts on others.

DNC presidential candidate for 2008, "Brave Sir Robin"

I think you're right--it is v

I think you're right--it is very evident who they are.  Even a casual visit to some of their sites show how very self-centered these people are.  We have to do all we can prevent them from stealing from us through taxes.

Never relent.

tumbler- thanks for that

tumbler- thanks for that. I appreciate it, good job.