We were down on the Euphrates this morning with Navy LT Torres and eleven Iraqi soldiers that he is training. On today's menu: learning to board crafts encountered while on patrol on the the river. The rule is to board every craft, again and again, as encountered. Yesterday's friendly fisherman could be today's insurgent, or someone who is perhaps being coerced by others on board.
See video of a practice boarding here.
We were in a three-boat unit. The technique consists of the lead boat coming alongside, greeting the passengers in a polite fashion, at the same time ordering them to the front of the boat with weapons trained on them. The second boat in our unit will align directly behind the first, and the third off to the left, forming an 'L.' One of the men from the first boat will then board, inspect whatever there is to see aboard, and as appropriate give an all-clear sign and return to our boat. The men are trained to keep their weapons aimed at the passengers till we are well clear. Passengers could be waving a friendly good-bye, only to grab weapons or hurl a grenade as soon as our guard is down.
NOTE: for those who might be concerned that we are divulging techniques, be assured that permission to describe the procedure was requested and granted before posting this report.
The practice boardings will be repeated again and again and again, with each boat taking its turn in the different positions, until LT Torres is satisfied.
Aside: the area where we were training has not been subject to sniper fire, only to indirect mortar activity. We could see a cluster of houses perhaps 2,000 yards upriver that is a known hang-out for the bad guys, but we were out of range. We did see a couple of our helos go by and a few minutes later got a radio report that they had come under ground fire, either an RPG or a shoulder-held missile. No damage, fortunately. It is difficult for the helo crews to return fire since our military is under orders not to fire when the bad guys are near civilian houses. Knowing this, the insurgents tend to launch their attacks from such areas.
On the way back to our vehicle, we came upon Private Dominguez up in the turret of an amored vehicle with an M-240G medium automatic machine gun. From her perch, she could see out over the river. LT Torres gave me permission to ask the private her rules of engagement. She explained that she would not fire until she saw sure signs of hostile intent. Merely seeing someone carrying a weapon on the far bank out of uniform was not sufficient, as we have outposts there and men will occasionally change into civilian gear. But if someone brings a weapon up pointed to our side of the river, she is authorized to fire without the need to receive an order from a superior.
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stay safe
November 16, 2006 - 05:40 ET by foolnomoregreat reading , do take care your in good hands and in our thoughts daily,peace be with you an yours..
bless and support the troops<> job well done
You're doing a great job, Mar
November 16, 2006 - 06:21 ET by Andrew H.You're doing a great job, Mark--please take care and return home. May God be with you and the troops. Thank you.
Never relent to those who would enslave our life... fight the leftists until death!
Mark,Really, REALLY great stu
November 16, 2006 - 06:25 ET by Indiana JoeMark,
Really, REALLY great stuff this post. It's all great, but to see the "meat and potatoes" of how our troops operate is something sadly missing in the MSM's coverage over there. Haven't watched the "boarding" video yet, but am headed straight there after posting.
And to hear Private Dominguez's description of the ROE really helps put me inside that turret with her, in my mind at least. Such restraint and responsibility shown by our soldiers causes me such pride as cannot begin to be expressed in mere words.
Once more great, fantastic, EXCELLENT reporting. Thank you so much for being there and doing this. As I'm sure you do already, thank all those troops for us back home, please.
God Bless,
Joe Rodino
It is difficult for the helo
November 16, 2006 - 09:43 ET by FastEdIt is difficult for the helo crews to return fire since our military is under orders not to fire when the bad guys are near civilian houses. And the demo-libs and the msm (LSM) want to know WHY we have casulties? Let's change the ROE and do some Tokyo or Dresden bombing and seewhat everyone has to say - I know that's a bit harsh, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who's frstrated that the people protecting us can't, logically protect themselves.
Once again, let EVERYONE there know we honor their service. Thanks to you and them, Mark.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Yes, FastEd, that caught my e
November 16, 2006 - 11:54 ET by Indiana JoeYes, FastEd, that caught my eye, too. The tactic of cowering behind civilians works. We're too civilized to fight that kind of barbarism the way it needs to be fought. Hezbollah used the same tactic in Lebanon, as have others.
Wish I could think of a solution....or somebody could.
I agree with you totally. T
November 16, 2006 - 12:33 ET by youngMCI agree with you totally. Time to take the restrictions off our military and trust them to do the right thing.
I agree 110%. Political corre
November 16, 2006 - 14:30 ET by Dave RI agree 110%. Political correctness has no place in war. I have heard people in a position to know say that close to half of our casualties in this conflict have been directly or indirectly related to our rules of engagement. I'm not a military genious, but this seems entirely reasonable to me. Even William T. Sherman, the man who burned my hometown to the ground in the "Civil War" said something to the affect that war should be an all-out proposition to help end it sooner and you will have fewer casualties as a result.
Somehow I suspect that both he and George S. Patton, Jr. would be appalled at the way our leaders are waging this war. The men and women in uniform who are willingly risking their lives for us deserve much better.
May God bless an protect each and every one of them!
War should not include any killing.
November 16, 2006 - 18:40 ET by SportPolitics"War should not include any killing." " Allow your enemy local cover amongst indigenous friendlies, in hopes of eventually talking to them and resolving differences."
* Lib rules of engagement manual, chapter Suck Sand, verse Profound is my Nam Hangover.
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Mark you did a great job commentating the clip. lol I enjoyed that.
Tell them to check for string/rope hangover boobytraps or watertow stores next time, so we can see a good splash !(leaning over to look)
Haha, I guess practicing dragging up man overboard is a bit harsh.
Did you practice belly flopping to the deck Mark ? rofl ( I know would I have )
Dive dive ! ROFL
Mr. Finkelstein, As usual, ex
November 16, 2006 - 10:10 ET by Roger the ShrubberMr. Finkelstein,
As usual, excellent work!
Have you discovered any "Muslim-Blood-to-Matzah" factories yet?
Didn't think so.
Take care of yourself!
Mark,Sure appreciate the clea
November 16, 2006 - 10:15 ET by JPR1Mark,
Sure appreciate the clear, straight forward reports. From the resturant stateside; the trip through cargo to the flight deck on the C-5; the helo ride and now on the river, I feel like I’ve been right behind ya’. You’ve given my mind just enough info to create my own little slide show. Easily more memorable than fancy-schmancy video, edited six-ways-to Sunday.
Thanks to you, your crew and especially our soldiers!
ROE
November 16, 2006 - 10:16 ET by misterbillMark, great job! I wish we had millions of members in NB (even though you would have to get more servers). The reason for that is so that more Americans would read your report and learn the things that they have never read in an MSM report. Personally, I don't know if I would have the courage and perseverance to hold fire as our troops are doing.
God bless Private Dominguez and all the others..
Keep these reports coming in. Godspeed!!!
your reports
November 16, 2006 - 11:42 ET by iveseenitallMark:
Your reports are fantastic. They enlighten everyone. You are a real "journalist". Thanks!
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Like I have said before.....P
November 16, 2006 - 15:33 ET by ww thumperLike I have said before.....Pray for our troops..even more now... Political correctness when dealing with Islamist will kill america....ww
A pity this job isn't being done by those paid to do it
November 16, 2006 - 18:01 ET by UnsaneMr. Finkelstein, you're doing a phenomenal job out there, so I hope you are not the least bit offended when I say it is a shame that you, and not some MSM reporter, is doing this work. If the media were not abrogating their duty of reporting information, you wouldn't be needed out there. All the same, keep doing what you are doing, for it is a great service and I for one am grateful.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy." -Sir Winston Churchill, British statesman (1874-1965)
A 3 hour cruise....
November 16, 2006 - 20:05 ET by acumenA 3 hour cruise....
Female gunners?
November 16, 2006 - 20:34 ET by petehSorry folks, I guess I've been out of touch. When did we begin assigning women to weapon carrying combat roles? Can a female be a combat infantry soldier now? - MOS 1193 as I recall - Where are we on all this?
If you're referring to Privat
November 17, 2006 - 11:17 ET by JoeBobIf you're referring to Private Dominguez, she isn't necessarily MOS 1193. My brother served as a cook in an infantry division (forget the MOS right now), but the last meal he cooked was in Kuwait. In the run up to Baghdad, he rode .50-cal on the company commander's Hummer. The theater conditions involved in nation stabilization and urban combat will bring non-combat MOS's into combat situations. As for Private Dominguez, good on her, and good on all our fighting men and women. God bless them all!
Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious
That made me smile, but would
November 16, 2006 - 22:13 ET by FastEdThat made me smile, but would YOU want John Kerry to be the Captain, lilbuddy?
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad
Is it just me, or does anyo
November 17, 2006 - 04:39 ET by liberal_bug_zapperIs it just me, or does anyone else think that Private Dominguez is cute?
Anyhoo, I've always known we have the greatest military on Earth. Its just too bad that only conservatives in the USA believe that. The rest of the world (for the most part) believe the MSM and think our military are total scum.
Maybe we should try all the MSM for treason and shoot the lot of them when we find them guilty.... because they are guilty.... and they are going to be the reason we have a full blown Nuclear War.
liberal_bug_zapper
November 17, 2006 - 13:45 ET by SportPoliticsKeep it in the khakis soldier. Your eyes should be on the far bank or your weapon, not that weapon, or the Aye-Aye candy.
Suck it up - move on. Nothing to see here. No asking, no telling.
;-)