We should have nuked Iraq

Photo of Six String Spiff.

So, here we are in Iraq. The longest military engagement in the history of the US. All because GWB wants to save face to a bunch of savages living in the stone ages. Three tribes are constantly in turmoil over who loves God the right way. I thought we were going to be shocked, and stand in awe. Apparently not. I have no doubt Iraq had WMD. The reason why we didn't find any is because GWB had to play the pander game with the stupid dems. Let's not forget the year plus of hand wringing going on between the US and the obsolete UN that gave them PLENTY of time to ship WMD out of Iraq, and into any neighboring terrorists harboring country.

Nope, we had to put Colin (White Dove) Powell up there and show slides, and convince everyone that the threat is real. The dems in Congress had no choice but to agree, reluctantly, with engaging Iraq because they would have committed political suicide had they voted against it. Our brave young (and old) men and women are over there in a shooting gallery thanks to the rules of engagement that evidently we only play by. MSSM cameras watching what every one of our soldiers does is spun so far out of control, they virtually ignore the terrorist behavior. Be-headings, torture, kidnapping, rape, and other unspeakable things that I cannot mention without becoming saturated with rage.

Why have we attempted to bring democracy to a region that has no intention of climbing out of the 7th century? Why? These are the same savages that were looting their own country when we invaded. If these people cannot get along with each other, how the hell are we supposed to bring democracy there? How the hell are we supposed to accomplish this? I know this war is not like ANY other war we have fought. I understand that. But for God sake, we are the USA! Why haven't we kicked the asses off of these primitives? These people in Iraq have shown me very little to convince me they are actually goingt to try and fight for themselves.

They have a Parliament in Iraq now. Yay. The members of Parliament are going on vacation this summer. Isn't THAT nice? Thanks to our military getting their asses shot off, these... Government person ell get a vacation. When George Bush goes over to the Middle East to talk with the current leader, he doesn't even see him In Iraq. Now why do you suppose that is? Could it be that the religious sandbox is just too damn violent still? I don't want to hear any more about the poor Iraqi people. F*CK the Iraqi people. We should not have sent nearly as many boots. We should NOT be nation building. I clearly remember GWB on TV making the big 'Here we go' about the invasion of Iraq. He actually said that we would not be nation building. What the hell else would you call this, Mr. President? We were sent there to accomplish a mission. The threat of Saddam using any WMD was eradicated. Guess what we do then? LEAVE! Then, when more terrorist savages fill the void, there will be less civilian casualties when we have to do this AGAIN. We will be doing this again. The primitives have shown us they cannot behave humanly.

This whole operation was a bunch of garbage from the beginning. You don't continuously warn a lying, habitual trouble maker, violent, brutal dictator that we're going to invade. The UN should not have been present at ANY ANY talks between US and Iraq. They had their chance with their 17 'resolutions'. The UN should have been , emailed, faxed, phoned, etc about their nice try, but we actually have to do something now, so please get out of the way while we back up YOUR resolution. I am sick and tired of seeing this school, or that hospital, etc being built when we shouldn't be doing that in the first place. Here is how this should have been done:

  1. After 9/11 it was clear the gloves were off and the Islamic extremists attacked this great Nation. (The MSSM seems to forget this)
  2. GWB announces we are going to do some mopping up of some known terrorists supporters so as this doesn't happen again.
  3. Gives finger to UN
  4. Gives finger to MSSM
  5. Explains to Congress that they are going to need their big girl panties for this.
  6. Deploy Special forces to seize all major oil wells. You know, the ones that were set on fire in the 90's.
  7. Completely obliterate all major cities in Iraq using our arsenal. This does not exclude nukes, but I know there are other non nuclear weapons that do a great job without horrible repercussions. *DISCLAIMER: I would only object to nukes if it were to cause serious side effects to other friendly nations.*
  8. Using Saddam's destroyed regime as an example, we give all other neighboring countries ONE WEEK to come forward and show us any form of compliance with our resolve to eliminate terrorism. Such examples would be the allowing of UN weapons inspectors in.

We now have the attention of all major players in the religious sand box. They are now fully aware that we mean business, and won't pussy-foot around trying to engage savages with a set of rules over our head threatening our every move, or worry about the next MF election.

 

I know right now some of you are saying I'm heartless, and I should think of the Iraqi children and such. Why think about them when they are just going to grow up and strap bombs on their chests and become heroes? the religion of Peace? Where are all the Muslims standing up to object to this terrorism? Why haven't we seen anything remotely indicative that maybe these extremists are a just a small faction? This leads me to believe one thing. They don't stand up and detest the vile behavior because they agree with it. The Koran calls for murder in it's pages. Why haven't we shown them that we can kill as many of them as necessary to stop their brutal religion, and protect our continued peaceful way of life? What is it going to take for this country to understand our enemy?

It will take at least one more horrifying day in this country before we wake up and realize this is a fight for our very survival. This is not some reality series that can be switched off. The terrorists are playing for BLOOD. We have the advantage... Will we ever use it?

 

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If We Nuked Iraq...

Allow me to say one more heartless (Pro American) thing.

If we did follow my plan exactly, how damaging do you think it would have been to the Republican party?  How long would the whiners and complainers protested in the streets before they began to be ignored?  Think of all the ammuntion we would have taken away from the MSSM and the Liberal DemocratsThe BS "Torture" story from Abu Grahb (SP? don't care).  The Haditha 'Massacre' that that piece of shit Senator Jack Murtha has yet to appologize for assuming our boys were at fault.  The 'winning the peace' that the MSSM hammered GWB with for months on end.  That poor Marine who was lambasted for shooting a 'civilian' pretending to be dead after just watch one another 'dead civilian' kill one of his fellow Marines.  The countless captures and murders of of military men by these savages.  All the embedded reporting that has been NOTHING but propaganda for the terrorists.  Hell, we've even been treated to a video of terrorist snipers killing our boys (Thank you, CNN)  When we were attacked in Pearl Harbor, what did we do?  Harry Truman weighed the options and chose the better of the two.  He chose the "See what happens when you f*ck with us?" method.  that seems to have worked pretty good, no?

I rest my case.

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

 

Sorry, I just snorted

Sorry, I just snorted coffee out of my nose.

This gets my new award for the most melodramatic (not to mention, ignorant, racist, insane) post ever.

Spaceman Spiff, I hear Liftetime, "television for women" is hiring screenplay writers.  You should apply! 

This post looks like what would happen if the extreme left and the extreme right mated.  This is what their abomination of a child would look like.

 Thanks for the laughs Spiff.  I feel sorry for you that you have to live everyday with such crippling fear hanging over your head like a black cloud. 

"Thanks for the laughs

"Thanks for the laughs Spiff."

What are you laughing at Leon? Perhaps the fact that Spiff would be going too easy on the bastards? If nothing else, Spiffs screenplay would make a great Jerry Bruckheimer movie!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Leon...

A movie, leon?  Well that doesn't surprise me at all.  You liberals think everything is a movie

Where was I racist?  I don't recall mentioning race ANYWHERE you knob.

Give me examples, leon.  Nope.  You just threw out virtually every stereotype in your reply.  Do you have any FACTS?  you moron.

I'll be waiting

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Spiff, Continually

Spiff,

Continually referring to an entire ethnic group in general as savages is racist.  Read your post.  Clear as day.

Now you show me what stereotypes I posted in my thread.  Do you have any facts to back up this claim?

Get to work.

Here's one direct example

Here's one direct example of overt racism from your post.

"Why have we attempted to bring democracy to a region that has no intention of climbing out of the 7th century? Why? These are the same savages that were looting their own country when we invaded."

All Iraqis are savages? 

Yeah that's not racist at all.

Definitions, Leon, definitions

Leon, that is not an example of racism. You have to describe a whole "race" for it to be racism. Calling members of a country "savages" is not racism. You really need a firmer grasp of the English language. Are you ESL perhaps? Could that explain it? Or are you the product of public schools?

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

racism noun 1.  th

racism

noun

1. 
the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races 

2. 
discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race 

Yep, turns out I was right.   Thanks for your worthless post though.  You probably should have looked up the definition before claiming I didn't know it.

Better luck next time.

You just proved his point.

You just proved his point. He didn't mention race, he said "region".

 

Reading skills are so important in today's world.

Reading upside down, Leon

His reference was to the people of the country. If I said the people of the United States were savages would I be racist? Of course not! You are incapable of reading clearly. Did you have a reading disablibity as a child, Leon? Leon, you need to pick your opponents better. Please do not think me racist when I say that you, Leon, are not up to the task of responding to my posts.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

No I read just

No I read just fine. 

Perhaps racism was the wrong word.  I apologize for the misuse.

I should have said bigoted.  Does that work better for you?

Right word, right place Leon

English is a language of precision. You use the right word in the right place. Leon, you often use the wrong word in the wrong place. Your apology to me is not accepted. Actions speak louder than words. When your words become more precise, then I will accept your apology.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

And, a couple

And, a couple more.

1)      “Why haven't we kicked the asses off of these primitives? These people in Iraq have shown me very little to convince me they are actually goingt to try and fight for themselves.”

2)      “The primitives have shown us they cannot behave humanly.” (ps the word you were looking for is humanely.)

 

Attacking a typo leon

Oh  lordy!  I made an error in spelling!  Looks like leon won this debate.  Give me an example of them NOT being primative.  You don't see many other countries besides Muslim dominated that do such vile things.  lets see.   Just off of the top of my head:

  1. Respect for women?  NONE
  2. You love god?  no?  they kill you 
  3. You love god? yes?  Do you love MY God?  no?  Booom  dead
  4. How is their economy doing?  Oh thats right, they don't have one.  Even when So damn insane was there.
  5. Contributions to ANYTHING good globaly?  Umm nope
  6. Lets not forget mass genocide!

anything esle?

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Right, you are racist

Right, you are racist towards Iraqis and you are racist against Muslims.

That's what I've been saying.

You admit it openly, so end of debate.  I was simply pointing your hatred out to people.  Thanks for saving us from a long protracted debate.

Iraqis is not a race. It's

Iraqis is not a race. It's a country.

 

Muslim is not a race. It's a religion.

 

You seem to have a problem with the english language.

 

 

Ok, so what word should I

Ok, so what word should I have used to describe hatred toward all of the people of one country and all of the people of one religion?

Bigoted?  Does that work? 

PS I can't believe the banality of this conversation.  You're ignoring the important part of the debate to attack my word choice.  NICE.

Whatever you call it, Spiffs, hatred is clear and painful to read.

Try using words that will

Try using words that will actually work. Blanket statements of racism, homophobia, ..etc seem to be your only responce.

 

Bigoted would only work if you know what it means, and you can prove he is wrong.

 

The conversation has definately been lowered to allow you to participate. As for ignoring your points, when you actually bring up one, we will all be pleased.

 

I doubt "Spiff" has a lot of hatred in his heart or he would be a Kos Kid or a Du'er. And if its painfull to read, don't.

Don't hate Iraqis

 I don't hate Iraqis.  I harte their complete lack of balls to do anything about anything.  Lets's not get side tracked here, Leon.  THis isn't JUST about Iraq.  I have admitted nothing you dolt.  You do ned reading comprehension skills.  Why the hell are you so concerned over what I call THEM vs. what THEY have done to US?  that says a lot.

One of my greatest Idols once (and continues to say)  "Not all Muslims are Terrorists.  However, so far, all of the terrorists have been MUSLIM."  That is fact. 

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Maybe there aren't any true "Iraqis"!

Maybe there aren't any true "Iraqis"! Maybe there are instead only a bunch of Kurds, a bunch of Sunnis, and a relatively big-bunch of Shiites. Maybe people as diverse as Sam Brownback, Joe Biden, and sarcasmo* think the cheapest and most peaceful way forward for both "Iraq" and the USA is to finally admit the obvious: That "Iraq" is really three very different countries, which could separately all have relatively-small governments once they've settled border & oil-division issues. Any single Iraq controlled from Baghdad will need a government of similar size, expense, and brutality to Saddam's to do impose any one-size-fits-all rule, as US & Iraqi soldiers are now discovering the hard way. Nothing will change until our policy changes, but not all changes must be bad, and some may be quite good.

Will Shiastan have closer ties to Iran's nutcases than we'd like due to the religious and family ties they already-have despite a recent, bloody war? Yes. Will & are there scores to settle from decades of brutal Sunni rule? Yes.

Will Sunnistan have an equally close relationship with the Sunni Saud-dictatorship which people here would prefer I called "a kingdom," despite the fact that they're obviously just a brutal dictatorship sitting atop a bunch of oil? Yes.

Will Kurdistan, for the short term anyway, be the only one of the three that's likely to be grateful to the USA for liberating them, despite how miserable life was under Saddam's dicatatorship, both when he was our "friend" (like Pakistan's dictatorship is now!) and when he was our enemy? Yes. Hopefully, there will be a way for these people to trade with us.

Will the three separated nations, despite these tensions, go to war once they're separated? That's impossible to predict despite the plethora of certain predictions out-there anyway, but I suspect and hope they'll all discover as separate nations what they don't seem to grok as "Iraqis." Namely, that they're in the oil business, and that wars tend to wreck expensive oil stuff. And even though 3 nations instead of one will mean more/longer borders, they'll be MUCH more-secure borders than the one-big-government version of Iraq "enjoys" today, and probably more secure borders than our current borders with both Canada & Mexico. Iraq post-Saddam was supposedly going to be an example to the rest of those hellholes, but what's wrong with 3 possibly-good examples that'll work, instead of one pretty-bad example that doesn't/won't?
JMR


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Do I have any idea what Dr. Ron Paul thinks about my/Joe's/Sam's "Iraq is three countries anyway" idea? No. Actually, I'd like to ask him about both that and my "ask, tell, and segregate!" idea if I get a chance. I wonder if my NB brethren would be surprised if my questions to him aren't softballs? Who knows, but if I do it I'll try to get video so you can judge for yourself.

 

 

Thank You Sarcasmo

Sarcasmo, you have presented  a very possible scenario.  I completely agree.  Being that we evidently aren't going to execute my plan, that seems the only logical thing to do.  My only question is how can we be confident the oil facilities won't be destroyed by waring tribes? 

Paul/Romney 

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Spiff painful?

No, leon.  Painful was watching Two towers fall before my very eyes.  Painful was watching a video of Nick Burg.  PAINFUL was finding out one of your friends isn't comming home!!!!!!   THATS PAINFUL!!   

Why are we risking one soldiers life for these people?  Why?   Other thatn it being strategic position on Iran.

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Leon: according to your own

Leon: according to your own admission on another thread, you could be said to be "racist" against fat people. "fat" is neither more nor less a "race" of people than "muslim" or "Iraqi".

Lee T.

U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington

The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain

Ok, then call me racist

Ok, then call me racist against fat people.

I hate them.  I am intolerant of them.  Use whatever word you want.  Racist, bigoted, intolerant.  The overall meaning/tone is the same.

celluphobe

celluphobe

Shallow LEON

What a Hypocite!!  

You outright admit that you hate a group simply becaus ethey are fat.  YOU are a shallow piece of garbage, and nobody here should give you the time of day.  How can you come in here all high and mighty accusing me of being racist, biggoted, ingnorant etc, when you actually admit to hating a certain group of people based on looks!  You are such a knob.

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Leon... Spiff has made

Leon...

Spiff has made excellent points as far as I am concerned...

The msm and the weak kneed leftists and RINO's plus the likes the ACLU and all their ilk, the filthy UN, some Depts here filled with the enemy within are all part of the problem we should of done something major, got it over with swiftly, then we would not have this madness with Iran/Syria and other countries....

We would have there ATTENTION....

Do not mess with the US!

You may want to recall Libya real fast....eh?

Spiff you are correct about WMD as far as I am concerned, but you know I feel the same if your memory serves you from our posts past about this very subject, which I know it does, rather well indeed.

Great forum subject!

So BT, You agree with his

So BT,

You agree with his assertions about the Iraqis? 

That we shouldn't care about them? 

That they are a bunch of savages? 

Listen little one, I am

Listen little one, I am sick of you taking a major point and twisting it to get attention...

You are only fooling some of us hater and it is getting old....you have been obvious from day one here to some of us who have been here for a very long time, as you have...

On and off that is...

Try just once to read and digest something without turning the subject into something like racism....as you always do, you leftist trollster.

BT, You clearly didn't

BT,

You clearly didn't read his post which you claim to support.

The main thrust of his argument is (in his words) "F*** the Iraqis" b/c they are a bunch of savages who don't appreciate what we're trying to do for them, so we should nuke them.

I didn't turn anything into racism.  I merely responded to Spiffs own words.

You should really read his original post before commenting on it.

Hateful one.... Move on

Hateful one....

Move on ...

You aren't worth my time.

Translation: "you're

Translation:

"you're right Leon.  I didn't read Spiff's post and in retrospect I probably shouldn't have gotten involved in the discussion"

SO answer my question.  Do you agree that the Iraqis are savages and we should nuke them?

B/c that's not the stance most Republicans are taking.  In fact, they're going the opposite way and saying taking care of the Iraqis is the exact reason we should stay.  They have concern for the well-being of the Iraqis (as any HUMAN should)

So again, do you agree with Spiff's hateful feelings towards the Iraqis, the people are soldiers are dying to protect?

The legend that is Leon

Leon, you are definitely a legend in your own mind. There are meds for that.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

What's all this meds

What's all this meds talk?

Are you a doctor or just miserably uncreative in your personal attack attempts?

Corporate whore, Leon

Leon, I just know that some medications would make your life easier. Trying to be helpful. I am not a corporate whore, Leon. I am just tired of your attacks on other people, so I have made you my project for the day. If it takes medications, okay. If not, then we can try other methods.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Dag, I haven't attacked

Dag,

I haven't attacked anyone.  What are you talking about?

Pointing out Spiff's deranged hatred of the Iraqis is not an attack.

By defending Spiff and going after me on this thread, you're indicating that you support his sentiments.

It's a shame that you hate Iraqis and want to nuke them.  I thought we were there to help.

PS uh-oh I'm YOURE project for the day?  Haven't ever heard that one before! haha. 

Leon me boyo

Seems you have been my project before. However, to get to your false claims.

1. Calling Spiff's attack racist is an attack.

2. I am calling you out on your imprecise use of the English language. That does not mean I support either you or Spiff.

3. The word you are looking for is You're, not youre (which is NOT a word commonly recognized).

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

1) Not possible.  I've

1) Not possible.  I've never even seen you before. 

2) Pointing out that Spiff's hateful attack is racist is not an attack.  It's a fact.

3)  You are correct here.  Racism was the wrong word.  Hate-filled bigotry would've been more accurate. 

4)  Blah.  Please.

Wrong, wrong, wrong Leon

Leon, my bucko, 2 and 3 cannot be simultaneously correct. If 2 is a fact, then 3 is wrong. If 3 is correct, then 2 is wrong. Those sissy Ivy League schools don't teach logic any more do they?

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Oh jeez.  Another one of

Oh jeez.  Another one of these guys.

Ok, again pointing out his hatred of Iraqis is not an attack.  It is fact. 

 

Now you are learning Hater/Leon

Little by litte you will get it Hater/Leon. Think of it as us educating you in the big bad world. This will help when you get into grad school. If you think we are precise, wait until your grad professors land on you.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Leon the douche

LEON  where have I said "I hate Iraqis"

I specifically said "F*CK the Iraqis"

That is to say I DON"T CARE about them.  Not hate. two different things you ass.

Why don't you go hate on fat people on "shallowprick.com" you POG.

 

What the MSSM doesn't report can kill you.

Little one... What a lie,

Little one...

What a lie, we have caught you numerous times with lines you used to use here since you have posted as Leon lately...plus your writing style with certain subjects and mannerisms that can only be you hater.

101st keyboard brigade, RJ and I caught that at the exact same time and posted as such...btw how come you used Spaceman Spiff....hmmmm?

Plus I know it has been pointed out by either Roger or RJ or both about your user name spelling noel backwards.

On the other hand, you have learned how to last longer on here, after-all you have had enough experience adn just couldn't keep away from our great company could you?

Plus if you really admit it..you miss us...you may actually be learning something to-boot....be afraid little one...be very afraid, you may actually become a big bad conservative or such.

LMAO!

1)  Little one?  I'm

1)  Little one?  I'm 6'3".  Not so little.  Thin yes, but little, NO

2)  My writing style.  Intersting.  Not much I can say to that seeing as how I'm not sure what it's being compared to

3)  101st Keyboard Division.  Google it.  It's a common term.  But thanks for thinking that I'm the only one to use it

4)  Spaceman Spiff was his name when I originally joined (and consequently, learned to dislike his foul-mouthed, hate-filled, postings)

5)  I do like it here.  I have a lot of fun and I have learned some things.  This is true.

6)  I will never be a conservative b/c there's no point. Who would I vote for considering there are no conservatives left in the Republican party?  Bush took care of them by forcing them to follow his lead into big government, big spending, non-conservative behavior.

Hi dag... As usual, Hater

Hi dag...

As usual, Hater didn't bother to read my post about how I felt about what Spiff wrote...

..but he is going to translate for me...

What a little awesome critter ....amusing if I think about it....

LOL

BT

Is this our little buddy Hater? Thought it had a familiar ring to the writing style.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

I only hate fat people. I'm

I only hate fat people.

I'm a fat-hater.  I openly admitted it already.

Hater/Leon

Didn't we have this discussion last year or the year before? You were dissing fat women then. BTW, how is grad school coming? Columbia wasn't it?

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

I haven't been a member for

I haven't been a member for a year yet.

Almost though! 

I don't go to grad school nor have I been to grad school (although I plan on going back on a part-time basis to start sometime in the next 3 years)

Of course not Leon/Hater

You would not be a member for a year under your new persona created after you old persona (and his brother?) were kicked off last year.

Sorry to hear the grad school thing did not work out for you. Was hoping grad school would season you a little.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Dag, Gotta admit this is

Dag,

Gotta admit this is creepy.  When strangers think they know you. Weird.

Again, I've never been to grad school.  Not sure where you're going with this.

No one is a stranger, Hater/Leon

Hater/Leon, everytime we have outed you before you were in denial for quite a while. It took some time for us to get you out into the open and admit who you were.

If it makes you feel better, you have a doppleganger who has been booted off here several times. Their writing style, word choice, hatreds, etc. are identical to yours. That is why we are deducing that you are our old nemesis Hater. If you watch enough cop shows you will learn that style and word choice are something that stays with you your whole life.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Yes....dag..it is. Good

Yes....dag..it is.

Good to see you again by the way, I have seen you here and there but we hit and miss each other it seems...

When you are gone for a long while I wonder what your up to in the Az. desert. if memory serves me that is your residence.

BT - Arizona weather

We just started the monsoon here. We get 1/2 of our yearly rainfall during this period. Only it comes in 15 minutes. :) Had a rainstorm and dust storm last night. Currently 94 degrees at noon. Coolest it has been in several weeks.

 

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

BT, You didn't address

BT,

You didn't address the rationale behind his nuke argument at all.  I read your post.  It has very little to do with Spiffs post aside from your don't mess with the US line.

Again, so you support his description of the Iraqis and how we should treat them?  Why are you avoiding my question?  Do you also hate the Iraqis and you're afraid to openly admit it?

Oh please get a life. Why

Oh please get a life.

Why do you not comment on what you think of Spiff's major points one by one instead of always derailing the thread...as usual.

I posted my opinion, whether you like it or not matters not to me you little nincompoop.

Uh BT, I already did

Uh BT,

I already did that.  He has one MAJOR point.  That's all.

The Iraqis are a bunch of savages living in the stone age, it's a waste of our time to help them, we should nuke them.

That's it.  He doesn't say anything else.

I haven't derailed any thread.  I responded to his own words.  How do you think I've derailed this thread. 

Furthermore, there was no thread before I posted, so...

Sorry I couldnt' just sit back and let Spiff preach annihalation of the Iraqi people.  It's not in my nature to support such hatred. 

Especially, when our brave troops are fighting to defend these people!

So if you please, just answer the only question I've asked you.  Do you agree with Spiff's viewpoint on the Iraqis?  Are they ungrateful savages?

Spiff to LEon

 "The main thrust of his argument is (in his words) "F*** the Iraqis" b/c they are a bunch of savages who don't appreciate what we're trying to do for them, so we should nuke them. "

 Wow!  How do you come up with the conclusions?

I'm not mad that they don't appreciate what we are doing.  I could care less if they appreciate it.  Our mission there is/was over the day we stopped looking for WMD and started building a nation.  THATS my point. 

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Spiff, I agree with you

Spiff,

I agree with you about the nation-building. 

I disagree with your rationale concerning the Iraqis being savages, which seems to be your main reason why nation building is a waste of time.

I'm pretty sure I've read you right on this one.  

Leon

What else would ou call three tribes CONSTANTLY at war with each other?  One more question is what the hell are they fighting for?  If we leave (keeping the oil wells protected.  We can't have those fall into the wrong hands.  That affects the entire globe) and a civil war breaks out, WHO CARES?  We should have finished this thing a long time ago.  When Bush Senior was on the door step of complete victory.  Oh but that was not FAIR!  The dems were bitching and complaining that our forces, being the definition of awesome, were kicking their asses TOO MUCH and that we had to thhhtooppp ittt.  Waaaahh wahhhhh!  Bush Senior caved to the Dems then, and GWB didn't have the sack to do it RIGHT this time either.

 

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I am at work :-)

I am at work.  Repairing things.  Hence, my delay in responses.  You however, seem to have an abundance of time on your hands.  College kid, maybe? 

 

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"Racism" vs "Bigotry"

Actually, Leon, "racism" is referring to an ethnic group as
"superior." Remember Hitler and his cronies? Now, I think
the word you are looking for is probably "bigot" instead of "racist."

 

By the way LEON

BTW   thanks fo rthe insults... It seems that all you have.

I you don't give examples you will just be treated like the troll you are.

Oooooooo  "spaceman" is that the best you can do?  Flaming idiot.

One more thing.

 

Point out in my post where I'm wrong.  Please, it would be an honor.

 

 

 

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I gave you three direct

I gave you three direct examples above my good man.

Spiff, are you unfamiliar

Spiff, are you unfamiliar with the comic artist Bill Watterson and his comic Calvin & Hobbes? Spaceman Spiff was an imaginary persona of Calvin's. C&H was a brilliant comic if you can appreciate comics. All I'm saying is take that as a compliment.

Leon, could you actually post what you believe for once. If you have and I missed it please direct me to it. You spend your time pointing out behavior you see as hypocritical or dumb and saying you would never be a conservative. Well what are you? In your words what will make this the country you want to see? Please refrain from the simply negative and go with the proactive stuff. What do you believe in?

You can't save the Earth unless You're willing to make other people sacrifice. Dogbert the Green Consultant summing up the elite left.

Wicked Conservative

 I know all about my favorite comic.  Spaceman Spiff was great.  I used be spaceman spiff here.  I changed it to Six String to reflect another hobby of mine.

 

 

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Ah...I see. So if Calvin

Ah...I see. So if Calvin grew up and played guitar...BadaBing Six String Spiff!!! Very cool, two things I enjoy immensely too, Calvin & Hobbes & pretending I can play my acoustic.

You can't save the Earth unless You're willing to make other people sacrifice. Dogbert the Green Consultant summing up the elite left.

Are you trying to out do Al

Are you trying to out do Al Queda.You need to check into a hospital.

"The longest military engagement in the history of the US."    Try google Vietnam.

"Deploy Special forces to seize all major oil wells. You know, the ones that were set on fire in the 90's."    You do know those wells were in Kuwait.

"Completely obliterate all major cities in Iraq using our arsenal. This does not exclude nukes, but I know there are other non nuclear weapons that do a great job without horrible repercussions. *DISCLAIMER: I would only object to nukes if it were to cause serious side effects to other friendly nations.*"   So Saddam was your hero?

You need to call the nearest mental heath unit and check in immediatly. 

"I know right now some of you are saying I'm heartless, and I should think of the Iraqi children and such. Why think about them when they are just going to grow up and strap bombs on their chests and become heroes?"     So you have the same belief as the terrorist?Doesnt matter whether it is kids,women,innocent civilians just kill them all to get your message across.

What really surprises me is all the response's are about Leon saying it is racist.Who the hell cares.The author of the post message was completely ignored.Apparently many agree with it. 

Well99, Spot on. 

Well99,

Spot on.  Perfectly stated.  Burn to Spiff.

It's a shame my use of the word racist dominated this thread. 

His terrifying post should have had all of the spotlight.

Great deconstruction.  Hopefully, people will address your points.

Leon

You know, it's funny yet sad that these two turds care more about my 'hatred' for Iraqis when we have terrorists who have sworn our annhiliation.  Many of which are where right now?  DING  Iraq!  DMF... Oh my mistake.  They set other peoples well on fire.  You liberals never cease to amaze me.  Leon/Hater, you are SOOO pathetic.  You have not debunked any of my points.

  • Show me how they are not primitives.
  • Give me ONE, ONE example of something they have done out of the kindness of their hearts for the world.
  • Again, how about how the women are treated?
  • Mass Genocide..
  • Harboring of terrorists..
  • Invading neighboring countries multiple times.

Do you have ANY rebuttal to those facts?  Or are you going to focus on my 'hatred'?

 

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Fixed links

TRUTH for LEON and Well99

 

Here

Have some more

...and just so it sinks in.

 

Sorry about the earlier links.  I didn't realize they were given different addresses when black content on my firewall came up.

 

You amaze me.I could care

You amaze me.I could care less about your hatred.You can wallow in your hate in the septic soul of yours.

"Again, how about how the women are treated?"

"Mass Genocide"

So by your words     "Completely obliterate all major cities in Iraq using our arsenal. This does not exclude nukes, but I know there are other non nuclear weapons that do a great job without horrible repercussions. *DISCLAIMER: I would only object to nukes if it were to cause serious side effects to other friendly nations.* "

Ah how is that going to help the women?Just curious what is it called when you obliterate the major cities of Iraq?

"Harboring of terrorists"

So who were you going to attack next?There is a bunch of countries that do this.You do know that we are going after terrorist there and even some Sunni tribes are helping. 

"Invading neighboring countries multiple times."

You might of missed this but Saddam is dead.So I dont think he will have too many invasions planned.

To be honest I dont really care what you think.Your just a right wing version of a Kos Kid. 

 

 

 

 

}}}----> I could care less?

I believe the words you seek are "I couldn't care less".  To say "I could care less" is a statement there is a degree to which you do care.

I won't normally point out such things, but this is one of the most often misstated phrases along with "hopefully" which is incorrectly employed to say "I am hopeful that..."

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Actually it is a bad habit

Actually it is a bad habit of mine to leave 'nt off a word.Looks like I did it again.

}}}----> No prob

I have my fair share of foibles, and certainly have no sheepskin to authorize critique.

I got angry some years ago when the dictionary accepted "irregardless" (same meaning as regardless) and "flustrated" (a combination of flustered and frustrated).

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Well99 and LEON want hatred

You want hatred?

**Warning: Truth is a click away**

HERE 

Have More

THIS is what happens when you ignore a problem.

 

Now, what's painful?

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Spiff, the whole 10 class A

Spiff, the whole 10 class A subnet is non routable. We Can't see those links.

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