If the American people really wanted out of Iraq Congress would have passed a no-funding bill long ago.

In fact, when the American people want something, like no Dubai Port deal, no Illegal Immigration Amnesty or no Cigar tax then that pretty much covers it.

So, when kooks want something they can get the Democrats to act really silly.

I wish this stuff was on daytime TV.  Then we'd see all of these dolts in their splendor.  I cannot imagine paying a group like KOS or DU or moveon.org enough to get them to create such a clown act for the Democrats to expose their silliness.

I knew this would be a fun first year watching these Liberal idiots implode; just never thought it would extend to a) wasting my money on this stuff or b) making those poor old septeganarians (average age 72) go through the torture of staying up all night pretending to be smart. 

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Quoted from:  'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)

Another instance of the media quoting a poll and thereby declaring it to be true. Polls by there very nature are opinions, not fact. Instead of creating a stupid poll that reflects opinions that are made from the media, go out and do what journalists should do...report facts. Interview the generals there, interview the soldiers there, interview some of the citizens there, take before and after pictures ( to determine how the infrastructure is improving ), report facts.

Taking a poll from the general population who only pays attention to headlines is going to give you the results they found. All it proves is the media's propaganda is working among the people who took the poll.

I'm also sick of the media reporting the war as if its a stupid basketball game, where they look at how the fans are cheering as the news ( hence the poll ) or look at the opponents score ( how many people they killed ) or announce every non-foul done by a soldier, and never making the case why this war is important to win, and how we are winning it, or how these are barbaric people who need to be dealt with.

The template is we are losing, so they hunt for information that supports that premise.

It would do CBS and the ignorant dunces of America who know nothing of Iraq in what is going on there to listen to the New York Times on the ground reporter John Burns.

I know people cringe at the Times, but John Burns is one of the few journalists who actually gives assessments without an axe to grind. On Charlie Rose Monday evening he spoke quite in depth of what is happening in Iraq and the fact that if America were to pull out the bloodshed now would be nothing compared to the genocide which would ensue.

His assessment was that the Shia should not count their Iraq before it is hatched as the Suni have experience and are very adept at fighting.

He went on to state that the Iraqi government heads were absolutely stunned in not believing what Democrats are pulling in Congress. When told by the US rep there that it was serious and not a show, the Iraq simply said, "We will all be slaughtered".

Fuoad Ajami in his assessment of Iraq a few months ago stated that a center government had formed. That Iraq was "a people" in they are quite proud of their nation now and will to keep it.

None of that information is getting through. Burns states the military assesses the Iraq situation not on the same standards that Congress looks for.

Yes the Iraqi politicians have mucked it up just like Democrats do here in fiddling while terrorists are planning attacks on America, but Iraq has major success stories and as of late half of the measures HALF WAY TO SEPTEMBER HAVE BEEN COMPLETED with 2 more marginal completions.

Considering Iraq was left to be a kill zone with Rumsfeld taking the blame for a policy which served America well and Americans were supposed to "love thy Muslim" behind the Green Zone, it is remarkable in that execution policy how quickly US and Iraqi forces are bringing Iraq around again.

For the record, John Burns of the Times and the Iraqi people, who do not approve of the American invasion all state factually that American forces are keeping the peace and acting as a buffer from each side escalating the conflict.

Iraq is working in this new phase very well and if a new surge is called for it would do well to key on those areas.

Finally, it is an honsest assessment that while Iraq is not Vietnam in jungle warfare a marked principle of Admiral Thomas Moore advocated and got Nixon to incorporate in mass bombing around the clock of North Vietnam to make them behave. This same strategy with Iranian patriots should be employed on Iran to make them understand they need to behave with a note to Syria they are next if they do not secure their border.

For every Iranian missile fired or found in Iraq, 100 jdams along with all arms of Iranian origin should be returned across the border on Qod forces with the understanding that nuclear weapons will follow if Iran does not cease.

The mess in the Iraq mess is President Bush for other political and tactical means has allowed ignorant dolts define this as a mess and that is hurting US policy. It needs to be cleaned up and the sources smashed which include the Pashtun as Sam Cohen advocated in 2001 in utilizing radioactive neutron weaponry to end the problem in short order.

He has proven correctly and the worst of it is that it is going to take a WMD in Europe or America to once again get the Couric's and Huffington drolls to demand something be done again. That though is going to mean two hundred thousand innocent westerners dead.

Since Eli Wallach was appearing here in quotes not long ago, it is fitting his words from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly ring true again:

If you are going to shoot, SHOOT! Don't talk.

President Bush cleans this mess up and the mess of Congress will go on to whine about some other nonsense.

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It's just amazing to listen to the drive-by's and the neverending doom and gloom style of reporting. If all the people only realized what's at stake here. 

It's really simple. We can fight them over there, or fight them over here. Let's say for sake of argument, that we do pull all the troops out from Iraq. Then a dim gets elected president in 08. What happens when we start getting more and more attacks on our soil (and yes, we will, bank on it!)? What will Americans think when the dims treat each attack as merely a crime, and pursue things from a law enforcement standpoint?

Who here besides me, believes that the next attack on us, the msm has already written the story, "Agressor Bush's illegal invasion into Iraq, spurs new waves of crime on American soil" or words similar to those. They'll blame Bush no matter what happens. We illegally invaded their country, so that's why they are attacking us. Of course, they will never mention the religion of the jihadis. The little known fact by the msm that we weren't in Iraq on 9/11, doesn't matter. It goes against their agenda. 

So, no wonder a lot of Americans want us to get out of Iraq. But, at what point will the country come together and say, "you know, I'm tired of them coming over here and hitting us all the time... maybe we should have stayed over there to fight them, and finish them off." When they reach that conclusion that the jihadis cannot be reasoned with, or talked to, or compromised with, then we might be able to come together as a country and fight them properly.

We can fight them now, or fight them later, at a even higher cost. Have mistakes been made? Absolutely! Can we still be victorious? Goddamn right we can, we're America!  

Mark my words, if we pull out of Iraq, we will get hit here, and we will end up going back at some point in the future.

P.S. noticed all the images are gone now...

Yes! Have some.

If they were really interested in whether the surge was working or not they would have polled the troops out in Iraq.