The co-hosts on "The View" discussed the issue of health care on the July 18 edition. Barbara Walters, who previously endorsed Michael Moore’s "Sicko", did so again. To bolster her argument that health care is an important issue, Walters stated "this is why Michael Moore has a film called ‘Sicko.’"
Co-host Joy Behar continued on her many anti-Bush rants, this time about a health insurance initiative. Behar’s main source was noted left-wing partisan Paul Krugman.
JOY BEHAR: You know, they call themselves compassionate conservatives, right? Bush has just vetoed a bipartisan bill that would extend health coverage for 4.1 million children in this country. Now, that is not a compassionate conservative.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: What was attached to the bill? I would just like to know that.
BEHAR: It was a bill that existed and he let it go, and now he's vetoing it.
HASSELBECK: I would like to investigate it.
BEHAR: Go ahead. Here it is. Paul Krugman, "New York Times."
[applause]
HASSELBECK: Well, a lot of the times– the reason why I ask is a lot of times people try to pass a bill and there are other things are attached that no one really ever hears about.
President Bush has not vetoed the bill they reference. It is still in the Senate and the administration has expressed their doubts. What Joy Behar neglected to disclose, and what Elisabeth Hasselbeck missed, is that the administration objects to the 61 cent increase in the cigarette tax.
Also, the Washington Times editorialized against the bill noting that it pays for children well into the middle class.
"The federal government is already paying for Medicaid and SCHIP but obviously people don't like the hassles or quality associated with it. So, rather than give both SCHIP- and Medicaid-eligible families the cash and the choice of signing up for private health insurance, Democrats want to increase SCHIP spending by $50 billion to cover families with incomes up to $83,000 a year."
The transcript is below.
JOY BEHAR: You know, they call themselves compassionate conservatives, right? Bush has just vetoed a bipartisan bill that would extend health coverage for 4.1 million children in this country. Now, that is not a compassionate conservative.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK: What was attached to the bill? I would just like to know that.
BEHAR: It was a bill that existed and he let it go, and now he's vetoing it.
HASSELBECK: I would like to investigate it.
BEHAR: Go ahead. Here it is. Paul Krugman, "New York Times."
[applause]
HASSELBECK: Well, a lot of the times– the reason why I ask is a lot of times people try to pass a bill and there are other things are attached that no one really ever hears about.
BEHAR: This is why the Congress has a low approval rating and so does Bush. Because they don't deal with four million children who need health insurance.
HASSELBECK: Well they should have it. Where are the parents of these children? Are they working?
BEHAR: The parents are poor. They don't have the money to buy insurance.
HASSELBECK: I want information though. I want information on this bill.
BARBARA WALTERS: This is why every candidate is talking about health insurance.
BEHAR: As they should.
WALTERS: And this is why Michael Moore has a film called "Sicko" --
BEHAR: As he should.
[applause]
WALTERS: And this is why the one thing candidates won't do is to say we will raise taxes to have health insurance because that's a sure way of getting defeated.
—Justin McCarthy is a news analyst at Media Research Center.
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Well now, Walters, Behar,
July 18, 2007 - 16:08 ET by Chris NormanWell now, Walters, Behar, Moore, and Krugman. What other endorsements do we need to know that they're right about health care?
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
That's it!!!
July 18, 2007 - 16:47 ET by CapitalismRulesBEHAR: This is why the Congress has a low approval rating and so does Bush. Because they don't deal with four million children who need health insurance.
Oh my God, you did it Joy! You found the solution to why people hate Bush, he wants to kill all the children!!! How did I not see this before!!! And oh, by the way, by the same token, you don't really endorse unfettered abortions for all women do you?
I do not care one wit
July 18, 2007 - 17:23 ET by bigtimerI do not care one wit anymore what any of these people have to say.
Zilch..
Actually, I never did until this info started getting put here, otherwise I never listened to them...none of them.
Plan on keeping it that way.
BT,Yeah, it was
July 18, 2007 - 18:07 ET by Chris NormanBT,
Yeah, it was originally described as like women just sitting around in their house talking about stuff - and just why would anyone else want to eavesdrop on that, exactly? I reckon the women of America can have their own friends over and sit around and talk - and probably be more interesting and intelligent - at least, you and your friends... :)
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Hi Chris... You got that
July 18, 2007 - 18:16 ET by bigtimerHi Chris...
You got that right.
I would not associate with nitwits like these gals in any serious conversation for a regular routine...not worth it...besides that I wouldn't last long, or better put, they wouldn't.
LOL....
ABC's attempt to pass these
July 18, 2007 - 18:29 ET by Chris NormanABC's attempt to pass these crones off as just like average American women talking about what average women in America would talk about is an insult to average American women...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Chris... Thank you sir.
July 18, 2007 - 18:32 ET by bigtimerChris...
Thank you sir.
You're welcome madame. Will
July 18, 2007 - 18:45 ET by Chris NormanYou're welcome madame. Will there be anything else this evening madame? :)
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Joy Behar's tax refund
July 18, 2007 - 18:03 ET by Lame Cherryand I am certain Joy Behar as a rich actor doesn't cash in her tax refund and invests it into the treasury to help pay for poor kids health care.
We all know Babs Walters and Michael Moore sign over their millionaire tax refunds too to help the poor.
The caring rich liberals who always can see other people's money but never will hand over their own.
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I thought of the name for
July 18, 2007 - 18:08 ET by mattmI thought of the name for the documentary on Michael Moore:
Lord of the Pies
another
July 18, 2007 - 18:26 ET by LionKingMystic Pizza Eater
You Have More Money Than I Ever Will... Give Your Own $$$$$!
July 18, 2007 - 18:24 ET by Maverick313It's also like Angelina Jolie going and adopting all these 3rd world children and everyone fawning all over her saying what a humanitarian she is... I would say the same thing if she actually put some of her own money in over there. Build an orphanage or something! GIVE YOUR OWN MONEY! Leave mine alone! My cousin from California just loves her and I had to educate her on the fact that she would be a great humanitarian if she did something other than tell other people to pitch in. Kind of like that "Do as I say, Not as I do" saying.
If you don't stand behind our troops; please feel free to stand in front of them!
Democrats want to increase
July 18, 2007 - 23:03 ET by motherbeltDemocrats want to increase SCHIP spending by $50 billion to cover families with incomes up to $83,000 a year."-- Washington Times
Free health insurance for kids in families with incomes up to $83,000 a year?????
Holy Cow!!
This was Ted Kennedy's plan from the beginning: if they couldn't get universal single-payer health care all at once, they would do it piecemeal, starting, of course, with "the children."
SCHIP saves money for taxpayers
July 18, 2007 - 23:08 ET by americandudeProviding health insurance for children is morally the right thing to do. Children should not be subject to whatever health insurance a parent can or cannot provide or pay for. Moreover, keeping children healthy both physically and mentally helps to prevent a myriad of social problems later in life that become a burden to society such as crime, unemployment, and poverty. We should not be penny wise and pound foolish. Bill Clinton had it right when he started the SCHIP program.
I'm not well-informed on the
July 19, 2007 - 06:31 ET by motherbeltI'm not well-informed on the details of SCHIP, I admit. If the parents have to pay to insure their kids through SCHIP, and want to do that so they can skip insurance for themselves, then I concede you have a point. But if it's free, parents with incomes of $83,000 should NOT be given free health insurance for their kids so they don't have to purchase it on their own.
Actually...let me correct
July 19, 2007 - 06:53 ET by UnsaneActually...let me correct you.
No one has the moral right to steal for me for whatever reason. Theft is theft; stealing is stealing.
You want free health care for kids? Reach into YOUR OWN DAMN WALLET, and STAY OUT OF MINE.
And if a parent cannot provide for the health of a child, or anything else for that matter...may I be so bold as to suggest that they shouldn't be having children, and that the government shouldn't be subsidizing their bad decisions?
Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.
Moral responsiblity to spend MY money
July 19, 2007 - 09:51 ET by jmtThat may be the case, but taking other peoples money do provide such health insurance is not the morally right thing to do. As has been said before, if you think this is important, use your own money. I have other moral imperatives that my money goes to.
I think is wonderful that the morality of the Left consists of instructing how other people should spend their money, rather than how they conduct their own life. Pthbthbthb to the lot of 'em!
jmt
http://www.jmichaelt.org
Dear jmt and unsane
July 20, 2007 - 22:52 ET by americandudeDear jmt and unsane:
Making sure children have what they need is not a moral issue of "'The Left". Jesus Christ taught about helping the weak and poor - I think if he were alive today he would support the SCHIP program. The augmentation of the SCHIP program has strong bipartisan support currently - including Senators from "The Right" - such as Grassley of Iowa. As much as you don't want the gov't reaching into your wallet, taxation is inevitable in a civilized society and if you don't like it you can avoid taxes (break the law). But failing that the U.S. has one of the lowest tax burdens of all
developed western countries. Thus, moving to another country won't help
you (because most of these other countries use taxes to cover health
costs for all citizens). I am sure in your daily life you are using government paid services such as roads, hospitals, sidewalks, fire, and police. I am sure you or someone you love has benefited from medical discoveries funded by the federal govt agencies, such as the NIH or NSF or spinoffs from federal projects such as the imaging technology developed by NASA which led to the developement of MRI. If people stop paying taxes, we are going to lose many of those benefits.
Another argument was that paying money from your wallet to pay for children's health insurance is smart economically because it will save the govt money going from your wallet later in the life of those children, who with the health coverage, will more likely be productive citizens rather than criminals.
The private sector cannot and will not provide all of the needs of our society. It was JFK who said "If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich". It is smart social policy to have a program like SCHIP.
americandude,
July 20, 2007 - 23:21 ET by Dave RJesus Christ taught about helping the weak and poor
You are correct. However, Jesus Christ never once instructed anyone to take money from others by force in order to do so.
Help Fred defeat everybody.
Jesus and the SCHIP program
July 20, 2007 - 23:46 ET by americandudeJesus would be for this program or how do you think he would solve it?
Well health insurance
January 4, 2008 - 13:24 ET by GordmanWell health insurance industry has many lack, it's not we would have expected in modern society such US, it's been too long since this crisis is making a mess in health system. People are searching for alternatives and at the moment private companies looks more promising. This is the case for life insurance companies.
No medical life insurance