Energy Expert Bashes Media, EPA Regulations, Ethanol, and Global Warming

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As oil and gas prices have risen over the past few years, more and more Americans have become familiar with the name Trilby Lundberg.

For those that aren’t, the Lundberg Survey has been the source for information related to fuel prices, fuel taxes, and all things petroleum for over fifty years.

With that in mind, Lundberg was interviewed by the folks at CNN.com last Wednesday, and the never shy energy maven spoke candidly about a variety of issues that most in the media would be afraid to share with the citizenry (emphasis added throughout):

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[T]here are several reasons that there was so much refining capacity down [this year].

One was holdover work from the 2005 hurricane damage. Many in the public may not realize that [it] was not possible to fully repair all that since the second half of 2005. Another cause was environmental protection regulations that have made maintenance and repairs far more complex than they were in prior years.

Third is specific to the use of ethanol that makes getting ready for summer's lower vapor pressure requirements more complex and more costly to achieve.

As many NewsBusters readers are aware, both of these last two concerns of Lundberg’s are pet peeves of mine that I’ve written a great deal about the past few years. It appears we very much agree on these issues:

The [government] subsidization of alternative fuels -- non-petroleum fuels -- has already added a great deal of cost for gasoline consumers here in the U.S.

To further mandate these uneconomic sources that cannot compete -- even with heavy subsidy -- would make gasoline prices higher and hurt consumers. When the market is ready -- if it ever is -- for such fuels, then they will not need subsidy. Meanwhile, the much heavier use of ethanol in the United States is affecting world prices -- not only U.S. gasoline prices, but world prices for those consumables that use corn. And the planting of so much more corn here has displaced planting of other crops, so that there are other indirect effects. And they're all negative.

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The use of tax money to prop up these uneconomic sources of fuel is itself a negative for consumers. ... The use of ethanol, despite all that subsidy, makes gasoline prices higher than they otherwise would be, through the difficulty of achieving EPA regulations and the final gasoline product, and through the requirement from the 2005 energy bill that minimal volumes of ethanol are sold. ... It's even been shown that the cost of tortillas in Mexico has been affected by our new government-mandated consumption of ethanol, which has raised the cost of corn.

Sadly, the green media aren’t interested in sharing such opinions about ethanol. Nor are they willing to tell the truth about the following:

I think that there has been friendly as well as unfriendly brainwashing taking place. And when I say friendly and unfriendly, I'm talking about decades of extremist views that have now achieved mainstream acceptance. And the No. 1 item among those affecting current oil politics in Washington is the boogeyman, also known as global warming.

I don't accept it as established fact, nor do I accept that it would be caused by petroleum consumption, nor do I accept that the human species should not affect its environment. So even if it were someday to be shown to have some small effect on the environment, I see no crime. In fact, taking into account the many, many millions of people around the world that envy our way of life, it would seem more humanitarian to wish them the kind of plentiful petroleum products and vehicles ... that we enjoy ... to lift themselves out of [a] backward, poor way of life.

In reality, there are many international economists that share Lundberg’s view on this issue. Unfortunately, it’s almost impossible to hear their voices over the media’s manmade global warming din.

Brava, Trilby. Brava.

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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I hate to add this here

I hate to add this here Noel, so I hope you forgive me....don't even know if this will get to the board.

I cannot and have not been able to get past the first blog post most times and lucky if I can get to the comment section on the blog.

Matthew wanted me to PM him with problems after I rebooted, well I can't even send PM's at all here at the moment anyway.

It is like frozen wherever it feels like freezing at the first blog if I am lucky it gets that far....I have tried everything I know.

Another thing, if I want to post if I get lucky enough to do that it just spins in circles forever it seems, it may post, it may not...it has been this way on adn off for more than three hours for me anyway. 

Just a few things here.

no problems here, maybe jscript?

No problems here, BT. A thought, though... what browser are you using, and what are your settings? The new site might require a newer version of java's runtime engine, or maybe you have cookies or jscripts disabled. Just thoughts. Good luck.

BT

Betty,

I'm no expert. Are you running IE or Firefox? Which version of each? ns

 

I can help

But need the info Noel mentioned to start with: Browser version and OS version.

Then, a list of the problems you're having.

Matt

Matt,

Thanks. ns

Noel... IE7 and thanks

Noel...
IE7
and thanks prag...what are jscripts?
Where do I go to see if they are disabled ect?
If I find them should they be enabled?
I am not PC savvy...but learning.
This was all working fine for quite awhile for me anyway.

It sounds like you may be

It sounds like you may be having some sort of bug. I think it'd be better to just get you to try NB in Firefox since that'd be easier than troubleshooting.

Click here to download Firefox in case you don't have it.

BT

Betty,

I moved to Firefox today because of problems with IE 7 as well. Very glad I did. Inputting much easier. Things working fine. I think you'll like it. ns

"I moved to Firefox today

"I moved to Firefox today because of problems with IE 7 as well. Very
glad I did. Inputting much easier. Things working fine. I think you'll
like it. ns"

Everyone should dump IE as soon as possible. It is a virus/spyware/exploit magnet. It's not a question of "if" but "when" you'll have computer issues because of it. And I say this not as a hater of IE, as I actually prefer it. I never use it these days though, it's just too risky.

settings

I am a Firefox user, but the tools or options or settings menus are all about the same. Go to your menu bar, in line with file, edit, help, etc., you will see either tools or options. Within that you are searching for a menu item that will lead you to a list of user-enabled settings. Some sites, and Matt will know if this is one, use javascript to jazz up the site. I think NB does (but I believe the old site was jscript heavy also). If you are not using a late version of the java runtime engine you might not get good javascript performance. But if your operating system is set to automatically update, as well as your web browser, this normally takes care of itself. Regardless, Matt will better be able to push a solution your way.

Matthew, Noel and

Matthew, Noel and Prag-man...

I could not get back in to check what you had written but checked some things out myself after looking up info....

I wasn't set to automatic update so I did that and it seems to be working now okay anyway.

I just want to thank you all for taking the time with me.

I have went back and forth to Firefox over time and may end up doing that again if this does not work out...

All my other sites are working fine though...so time will tell.

Thanks again.

BT

Betty,

Updates can be a wonderful thing. :-) Let us know if you have any more problems. Betty Boop is very important to me. :-) ns

Betty will do

Betty will do Noel....

...and bigtimer is cracking up laughing at the moment.... 

worthy of a Delly?

Me thinks this Lundberg story might be worthy of a Delly. Spot on, and in-depth.

I thought the dims were

I thought the dims were elected to rescue this spiraling economy, and bring gas prices back down to 56 cents per gallon? They've failed miserably!

Gas prices still lower than in Europe! LMAO!

NB, thanks for the new layout, I can finally add links! 

 

Yes! Have some.

rs... ...and what a great

rs...

...and what a great link that is!

Thanks.

Biofuel hunger

Though I very often despise the product of The Guardian newspaper I ran into this tidbit in article about a U.N. study:

The global rush to switch from oil to energy derived from plants will drive deforestation, push small farmers off the land and lead to serious food shortages and increased poverty unless carefully managed, says the most comprehensive survey yet completed of energy crops.

The U.N. is also making noises about money short falls for famine relief due to increased grain prices brought by the biofuel push.

So we scorn geologically made biofuel (crude oil) sitting unused in vast underground formations (Alaska and Off-Shore) so we can starve 3rd world peoples and use up scarce top soil to grow our own biofuel (oils and alcohols made from freshly grown plants).

 

 

Biofuel hunger - link

Just learning the Link thing.  Hope this works.

As long as corn (which

As long as corn (which requires rich soil) is given massive taxpayer subsidies while these guys who can grow their stuff even on marginal soils aren't allowed to even compete, we'll have "capitalism." Riiiight...
JMR

Sugar

Actually, sugarcane is even better, and our friends in Latin America have been using that for years.  But for the same reason (corn subsidies to coddle Iowans), sugar-based ethanol won't arrive here for some time.   

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Even my OIL man!

I've just come to understand, even after years of not buying into global warming, what an uphill battle this is. My oil burner gave out this weekend, so I had the oil company come give me an estimate for a new one. The slaes rep and I almost ended up getting into it over GW. (Heh, my wife made me stop. But he brought it up first! WHAAAAAAA :) ) But even the guy selling me my oil burner, from my oil company, is brainwashed! Unbelievable!

They hate Iraqis:

They hate Iraqis: They want us to pull out so they can self-destruct.

They hate 3rd world poor, part I. They want to continue the farce of banning DDT so that more of them can die from malaria.

They hate 3rd world poor, part II: They want to price them out of the basics of survival - food - by turning their food into fuel.

Can they be any more blunt and clear what their intentions are?  And they say the republicans want to toss the poor, the old, the handicapped out on the streets to fend for themselves?  Or whateve their baseless accusations are.

They are disgusting and should seriously take themselves out of the gene pool (Darwin awards!) and let the rest of us get on with living and helping and doing our God-mandated thing: managing the earth. 

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

Bravo! Perfectly put

Bravo!

Perfectly put HelenS, couldn't agree more!

Not to mention that

Not to mention that producing E10 or lesser percentages (subsitute for MTBE) only ties up refining capacity and does not increase the amount of fuel available for vehicles.  The addition of ethanol is not a simple mixing process after the refinery, if you are to mix gasoline with ethanol, gasoline must go through an additional process at the refinery called "Reforming" to adjust the octane count for each specific mixture of Ethanol whether it is an additive, E10 or E85 (85% ethanol).  It is only when you make gasoline for E85 that you really increase the fuel available for consumption.  We have a refinery bottleneck, thanks to the Econuts and Democrats who pander to them.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

I used to work for Lundberg

I used to work for Lundberg Survey in the mid-90's. I drove around the Seattle area for 4 hours twice a week writing down all the gas prices, then reporting them in. Easiest $250/per week I ever earned. 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Death Is Never a Pre-requisite to Victory

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

"Why don't we just refresh it with the blood of tyrants?" - Rodney Dangerfield

"Why don't you just trim it with a quality pruner?" - Larry the Cable Guy

"Why don't you just water it and hire an arborist?" - Jeff Foxworthy

Off topic I know, but that quote - though inspirational - bothers me. Casualties need never occur in military operations. Overwhelming superiority - in men, materiel, and skill - insures victory with zero loss in life.

 

Uh...Casualties will happen

Uh...Casualties will happen with disturbing frequency even in military training, let alone actual war. Overwhelming force has nothing to do with it. People die around dangerous stuff, and military stuff can be dangerous at times.
JMR

Claiming no one should ever

Claiming no one should ever die in a military operation is as pie in the sky as a liberal promising wealth to the poor.  It's nonsensical.  Freedom is not free of cost, Jefferson understood this, apparently liberals don't.  If it costs you nothing, you have nothing of value.  It's no wonder you liberals don't value the freedom you have here in this country, you think you're entitled to it and expect others to pay for what you won't. 

 

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"

Simplistic

Awfully simplistic thinking there.  Deaths unfortunately occur in training accidents as they occur in the civilian world.   

Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Actually, if I understand

Actually, if I understand correctly, there we more deaths in the military under Clinton from training exercises and police actions than currently from active duty in Iraq.  Hard to believe, I learned about this early last year. http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/Death_Rates1.pdf Life in the military is risky business whether in war or peace.  So from my point of view, claiming we should withdraw from Iraq due to deaths of our soldiers is basically akin to claiming no one should be in the military at all if one were to be consistent with their thinking.  Then again, liberals are not known to be consistent, just deceptive.

 

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane"