MSNBC: Women Re-entering Work Force Face Peril

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"[O]pting out can come back to haunt some women."

And haunt it does in this piece designed to scare the bejeebers out of women who are considering leaving the workforce in order to stay at home with their children. MSNBC contributor Eve Tahmincioglu warns us that women who leave lucrative careers in order to change diapers and arrange playdates may receive a nasty surprise if and when they need to go back to work.

She includes anecdotes from women whose circumstances demanded that they go back to work, but were unable to simply pick up from where they left off, taking jobs they had to in order to make ends meet.

For professional backup, Tahmincioglu turns to Leslie Bennetts, author of the recent tome "The Feminine Mistake: Are We Giving Up Too Much?"

Women are often blindsided when they’re confronted with the realities of the workplace after opting out, says Leslie Bennetts, author of "The Feminine Mistake: Are We Giving Up Too Much?" Women re-entering the workplace encounter a host of obstacles, including everything from ageism to a “very strong negative bias” against former stay-at-home moms by both male and female managers, she says.

Women need to understand what they may face if they choose to give up their careers, especially those women who do little to keep their skills up to date or educate themselves during the years off, she adds.

What's missing from this, and many other articles regarding women who face similar situations is that it's not necessarily sexism that prevents women from stepping back into their old work roles, but a reality that can affect men and women. Bennetts is correct when she says women who don't keep their skills and education up-to-date face a more difficult time when they decide to go back to work. The same is true for men, but that gets little media attention.

An example of this is an IT professional I know who back in 2002 took a severance package when his company was bought out. Instead of pounding the pavement right away, as he was tired of the corporate rat race, he decided to take a gamble and invest his money and work for himself as a day trader. He gave it a lot of effort, and it worked for several years...but after some unfortunate setbacks, he knew he would have to go back to work. Unfortunately for him, being out of the competitive IT loop for several years made him nearly unmarketable. Unable to step back into the same kind of high-level, lucrative position he occupied before his stock market days (due partly to many IT jobs being outsourced overseas), he is now employed as a contractor doing the same kind of basic IT work that he did when he first started out in the field 15 years ago -- making considerably less as well.

Does this sound sexist to you? Of course not. He made a choice to leave the corporate world, and paid a heavy price when things didn't work out the way he expected. Where's the media outrage when he was unable to simply go right back to where he was before striking out on his own? Being in his mid-40s, is ageism at work here? Are managers looking down on him for daring to dream of making a living outside of the corporate beltway?

The point is, both men and women can face the obstacles Tahmincioglu lists in her article for MSNBC. Unfortunately, our media favors the plight of women over the plight of men.


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But suggesting that freedom

But suggesting that freedom to choose and the capitalist system of rewards for performance don't take into account the need we all have to be taken care of from cradle to grave by a nanny state!

Neocons... Pffft. It's all "personal responsibility" -this, and "obey the law"- that..

When Hillary is Empress, all this will change!

 

What About Working Single Women Now

I always love these mother hating stories by cold as ice shrews trying to keep women who want to have families doing so by threatening them with the reality of the world.......that the world does not stop when you get sick, die or have babies.

What bothers me immensely though is these feminists who tell women they can have it all. Right now in every work force there are guys and single women who are having to do the double work for women in the work force who are always out with a sick child or some other nonsense which does not belong in the work place.

That is the problem in business and not that women have to just like all people when they leave a job and come back that they have to start at the bottom. It is the reality of life. You can't quit a car race and expect the race to stop until you take a year off for baby.

Having children is as great a vocation as any and greater than most as the product you are turning out is a person who will not end up in prison or on welfare. The women who don't have children face an equal penalty in not ever knowing that success, but have a nice retirement account to sit alone with in Boca with other old shrews who loved career more than a mortal male.

That is life. It is not fair and when government tried making it fair it bankrupted the American auto makers, drove steel out of business and has half the work force furious at the "mommy factor" as she gets to go home and take care of the kids early while the single girlies and guys get stuck doing their work as that is what business is about.

I guess that means it is more unfair for single people than for feminists complaining about starting at the bottom of the ladder again.

 

 

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Sexist? Not at all.  It

Sexist? Not at all.  It could be that potential employers see a person who has taken a few years out of the workforce as a less stable bet than someone on a steady path in their career. 

I can certainly relate to the predicament of losing one's "place" in the workforce.  In 2001, after a company that I worked for that was heavily invested in the DotCom went belly up, I too was tired of it all and at 42, I took four years off from an IT career to stay at home and raise my two sons.  My wife went back to work, and after the first two years we got tired of counting pennies but we still weren't ready to turn the raising of our sons over to someone else at a day care, so I looked for a job at night.  The only night job I could find aside from stocking shelves at Home Depot was working overnights at a 24 hour health club.  So for almost three years I said "Good morning" for a living.  Damn night job almost killed me.

Last year when they both reached an age where they were in school most of the day, I went looking to get back on track.  Not easy.  That time off is looked at with suspicion.  Everyone wants to second guess what you COULD have done instead of taking a menial job.  I ended up taking the job off my resume and just presented that time off as non-employed.  It was still tough finding work, and when I did, the salary was considerably less.

However I would still do it all again, the time with my boys was priceless.  I feel that I know them better than I ever could, had I not taken the time off.  Retirement's gonna be rough, but worth it.

I retired then went back=

I retired then went back= things were not the same. I had to update my training. (IT). After a couple of years, I was treated equally with others in spite of being much  older. it was my experience in this second career that women were given more advantages and advancement than men.

I like how things such as

I like how things such as continued training and the updating of skills are "obstacles" that women (or men, too) could "face" when trying to re-enter the workforce.

Those pesky things called "qualifications" and "requirements" just keep getting in the way, don't they?

Dutch

I graduated with a degree

I graduated with a degree in Electrical Engineering.  When I entered the work force I was designing imbedded processor systems and then went to systems work after that and finally project/program management.  I could no more design another imbedded system than I could fly.

If you don't keep up the technical world (especially) zooms right on by. 

 Since government is coercion, politics is largely the exercise of deception regarding the intended use of coercion - George Orwell

Good point, Pam.  The

Good point, Pam. 

The article did not sufficiently attempt to discern how many of the problems were due to lost skills, etc, and how many were due solely to gender.

Eve

Why isn't life perfect for women like Eve Tahmincioglu? It's so sad. Where did I put that crying towel?

NEVER, NEVER trust a liberal

I think that there's

I think that there's another aspect that's being missed.  There are always more indians than chiefs in a company.  If you're a chief and decide to bow out of the job market for a while, those chief jobs are going to go to the indians who are working the jobs while you're gone.  It's not realistic to tell someone who's been doing the job for years, and has worked their way to a promotion, that you're going to give the promotion to someone who's been off doing other things.  If you decide to leave your job for an extended period and come back, you should expect to fill a more available indian position.

Oh Eve and all your

Oh Eve and all your ilk...

 Boo-Hoo-Hoo...

Cry me a river would ya?

Stick a fork in it...this is an old subject that has been over done, plus it is sexist to the men.

Tired of it myself.

aha a clue!

I have been trying for months to pick up where I left off but to no avail. I am so glad this Bennet person wrote a book to help me understand it all. Its those mean white corporately greedy men trying to keep me back! Who do I sue? Just ignore the fact that I have been out of school and work for well over a decade... I can type and send emails and respond to news items that ought to qualify me to be a corporate secretary. I left as a sales associate/ data entry/ receptionist type person so why aren't greedy corporate types knocking down my door?

~lbcdawn Religion is about doing. Christianity is about done.

Hi lbc.... Haven't seen

Hi lbc....

Haven't seen you for awhile..good seeing you again.

Those types haven't ever knocked down my door either...how just how did we ever manage to survive in the workplace?

LOL....

I'm here just busy

Hey Bt! I have been around just not posting much..I did do that Happy dance when I discovered tumbler was banned. I have tried to respond on a few threads but with the kids home for the summer I always get distracted. And now my time will be even more limited as I scour the web in search of a lawyer. <snicker>

~lbcdawn Religion is about doing. Christianity is about done.

As A Woman...

As a woman, I know that when it comes time to have children I will stay home with them.  Noone is going to give them care like I can.  As a result of that I know that I will have to re-enter the workforce as an entry-level employee.  It's common sense!  I don't believe that anyone should get a break because of race/gender.  Others that are more qualified are passed up just so that the "scales" are equal.  Ridiculous.  Ladies, or gentlemen for that matter, if you don't like the prospect of that then keep working and trust your children to someone you probably don't know that well, or that has 29 other kids to watch at the same time. 

 If you don't stand behind our troops; please feel free to stand in front of them!