AP Says America has 'Faded' Since WWII


The AP will use just bout any excuse to say that the USA isn't what it used to be, or what it should be. Yes, they will use any excuse to tear down this great country. Today's example is predicated on the dodgy research of another America bashing "economist" who is saying Americans are too short -- as in too short in actual, physical height -- because we are "gradually falling behind the rest of the world" in everything.

Lamenting that in the 1850's the people of the USA averaged 2 and 1/2 inches taller than folks in western Europe, the AP goes on to rip the USA because other nations have caught up to us and, in some cases, surpassed us in height. But it isn't just height that the AP says makes us losers.

Without explaining, the AP says that we have faded in "so many other arenas."

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But just as it has in so many other arenas, America's predominance in height has faded. Americans reached a height plateau after World War II, gradually falling behind the rest of the world as it continued growing taller.

If we are such big losers, why are so many of the world's people still killing themselves to get here? Why are we considered the world's lone superpower? But, let's not allow reality to get in the way of the AP's getting a good hate on for the USA.

But, let's get to the claims of the man upon who's research the AP based their story. First of all he is not an American, which shouldn't surprise anyone.

...John Komlos, an economic historian at the University of Munich who was born in Hungary, grew up in Chicago, and has spent the last quarter century compiling data on the heights of nations.

His initial assumptions are certainly correct. A people grow taller as their health and wealth increase. That seems a no-brainer.

Many economists would argue that it does matter, because height is correlated with numerous measures of a population's well-being. Tall people are healthier, wealthier and live longer than short people. Some researchers have even suggested that tall people are more intelligent.

Now this is obvious. I hope no one paid this guy to state the obvious.

But, where he gets ridiculous is with his claims that the USA is somehow falling behind now. Sure in the 1850s the people of other countries were far shorter. That was because we were the healthiest, richest country on the planet! And, sure other countries have caught up to us now.

But here is the thing...

Over the last 150 years we HELPED our European counterparts (as well as everyone else in the world) get richer and healthier with our research, markets, exports, ideas, and democratic principles. The rest of the world didn't just catch up by happenstance, WE allowed them to as a result of the exportation of our excellence. If it weren't for the USA, they would still be wallowing in the poverty they were used to before the USA was created.

So, what this goof ball claims is our "falling behind" is really our generosity and excellence assisting the rest of the world to join us in health and wealth. And, what this story SHOULD have been was one praising the USA for letting the rest of the world become healthy and wealthy enough for catching up to us in height at long last.

But, no. What we get is the AP saying we are "falling behind" the rest of the world.

So much for gratitude!

But even more absurd is the obvious conclusion that immigrants from South of the Border has affected our height statistics. If the Dutch are the tallest, as the AP report claims, and we are no longer receiving as many immigrants from that area of the world, then we are naturally going to have relatively smaller height statistics. And, let’s face it, we have far more people from Mexico added to our population than Dutch these days!

Couldn't this could be a possible explanation, too?


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}}----> Short Americans

Didn't we reach ZPG somewhere back in the late 70's?  Isn't our population growth due greatly to immigration and procreation of people genetically shorter than those they replaced?

Don't people shrink as they get older?  Aren't we aging as a society?

What a waste of pulp this story was.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Come on. You KNOW it's becaus

Come on. You KNOW it's because we Americans are all evil and stuff.... right? The AP says so, ya know!

}}----> I know Hudson

I was just trying to muddy the waters with factual demography when a simple "mea culpa" would have been sufficient.

Saw right through it, didn't you?

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

US has provided $2 Trillion t

US has provided $2 Trillion to world aid since WW II, the biggest benevolent package in the history of the civilized world.

I hope this guy keeps publishing, maybe fewer will come and break our laws

Well any day now, as soon a

Well any day now, as soon as she hears about it, Hillary will promise that when she's President, right after she "ends" the war in Iraq, she will establish a commission and take steps to repair America's "height gap."

Damn that George Bush! No

Damn that George Bush! Now Karl Rove has a "Shrink Ray" to go along with his weather machine.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Our declining stature is abs

Our declining stature is absolutely due to changing demographics caused by immigration and birthrates.  But politically-correct Multicultural orthodoxy doesn't allow the recognition of such elementary facts. 

Another sure-fire indicator?

Another sure-fire indicator? Stupid AP writers can be found everywhere, not just in the U.S.

He must have included the 12

He must have included the 12 million short illegal immigrants in his data.

Lostone

You have done it again. Con

You have done it again. Congratulations for exaggerating nothing. But next time take some history lessons:

1.

"Sure in the 1850s the people of other countries were far shorter. That
was because we were the healthiest, richest country on the planet!"

Would be interesting if you shared the statistics, were somebody states that the U.S. was the healthiest and richest country in the world in 1850. In respect to wealth I'd say it was England. In respect to health probably Japan. And I admit it is a guess.

2.

"Many economists would argue that it does matter, because height is
correlated with numerous measures of a population's well-being. Tall
people are healthier, wealthier and live longer than short people. Some
researchers have even suggested that tall people are more intelligent.

Now this is obvious. I hope no one paid this guy to state the obvious."

Obvious? Why? Where do you get your supreme knowledge, that this is obvious? Japanese people are very healthy and get very old, but they are not tall.

3.

"Without explaining, the AP says that we have faded in "so many other arenas.""

But Warner it is true. If you look at any statistic for economic key data, you will find that the U.S. was, compared to other countries, THE dominating power in the world. But when those nations rebuilt, they got stronger. And yes that was because of the U.S. helping them. But that benefit was mutual. Or in other words, the U.S. wouldn't be standing were it stands today, without the economic power of western europe and japan.

So after slamming china, because a korean student went amok at a university (you remember your stupid comment?), after reading about a movie, which you thought to be anti american, because the evildoers were human, now you disseminate the next crappy article because you feel offended, by the notion that other people got taller than you. That I call an inferiority complex, my friend. Grow up!

"Hegel says somewhere all great events and personalities in world history reappear in one fashion or another. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second as farce."
The Eighteeenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (1852) sect. 1, Cf.

I love it when people who see

I love it when people who seem to claim that I am so stupid that they can't stand it take the time to read EVERY piece I put up!

As to your "points" about this AP article, I was merely responding directly to them on the basis of their assertions. It was amusing that you doubted my claims yet had no "proof" of your own to back up your counter claims. What's that saying about the pot, the kettle, and the black? And your claims of our economic hard times do not fit the facts, sorry to say. So, really, I see nothing there worth responding to. But your last paragraph was amusing, so I'll address that one.

So after slamming china, because a korean student went amok at a university (you remember your stupid comment?),

I made no statement of fact at that time, but was clearly speculating on reported news.

By the way. In polite society the names China and Korea would be capitalized. Look up the grammatical rules for proper nouns. You might learn something.

after reading about a movie, which you thought to be anti american, because the evildoers were human,

...and? Here's a little help for your next post. Have a POINT to it. It makes it so much more interesting for the readers.

now you disseminate the next crappy article because you feel offended, by the notion that other people got taller than you. That I call an inferiority complex, my friend. Grow up!

First, I am glad you think that the AP's article is crappy, too. That at least shows you are on some level able to grasp something. But, in the end, you really do have a reading comprehension problem. I truly feel for the terrible schooling you have received.

Now, no where in my post did I worry over "the notion that other people got taller" than us. In fact, I didn't even mention it much or try to dispute the measuring or explain it away. The actual issue of height was not really the thrust of my posing. See, the only logical way you could claim that I showed an "inferiority complex" about our height is if I fixated on the topic and made that the central point in discussion. But, in fact, I barely mentioned it.

Heck, even my title didn't make any mention of the height issue! If the title doesn't display the central point what does?

The POINT of my piece was addressed to the clear anti-Americansim of the APs work. I couldn't care less if we are taller or not. The clear focus was on AP's ignoring that others have caught up to us because of our generosity and help.

I am sure that others here are wondering why I wasted my time on you like this. To them I'd say it is my too helpful nature. I am sure all realize the delicate mental balance of KaKafer, but they may not realize how much attention he needs to feel loved. I, for one, don't want to be responsible for his further mental decay.

Just call it my good deed for the day.

Now, I am going to bed (I'm a night guy, you see) so I will be off-line until later tonight. Not that I expect KaKafer's day nurse to let him on the computer again so soon today, anyway. But if the day room is not too busy, maybe we'll be graced by his agitated presence again?

In any case, I have this last bit of advice. Take your meds like a good boy, KaKafer. And have a wonderful day... may your family FINALLY visit you in the home.

Warner, at least you &quo

Warner, at least you "tried" to set kafkakaefer straight. But if the first line of your article

The AP will use just about any excuse to say that the USA isn't what it used to be,

didn't make him realize what the thrust of your post was, I doubt he's going to understand any explanation you give him.

Have a good rest.

Competing on height?   That

Competing on height?   That's so 20th century.

  We are now going for width.  And we have some of the widest people on the planet.   : )

A little short

Mr. Komlos the answer is IMMIGRANTS.

In the 1850's most immigrants were from western Europeon countries.  In later years an influx of immigrants came from China, Italy, Korea, Japan and more recently Mexico along with other countries down the chain to South America.

I have not made my life's study documenting the historical height of nations.  I cannot back up my research with reems of statistics.  However, being of western European decent, 6' 4", not the tallest in the family, and rarely look up to anyone from the previous listed countries, taking into account the shorter immigrant, I think the five minutes it took to write this is enough.

Factor that into the mix shorty.  That's short of statistical data Mr. Komlos.  Surely you didn't contribute to our shortness. i'm sure you must be tall with your intelligent contribution to the future of our world.

Economically, we are still giants among dwarfs.  Want to measure any other ways?  Maybe we can unzip.

The AP must be running out of

The AP must be running out of things to write about. This story is over three years old.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1185387,00.html

Recycling is good, plagiarism

Recycling is good, plagiarism is bad!!!!  I see a lot of similarities in these two articles by two different authors.  First we have photoshopped pictures, then use of stringers giving false info. and now plagiarism.  Where are the AP standards?????

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

So, what about Africans?

If it is indeed true that taller people reflect the well-being of their society, then why are so many in African tribes as tall or taller than Americans? Just when you think the liberal media establishment can't say anything more asinine, just stick around. They never fail to out do themselves with the stupidity of hysterical over-emotioned liberalism.

Liberalism - because an independent mind is a terrible thing.

Good example.  Which just

Good example.  Which just goes to show, tall genes and smart genes are not inseparately linked.  Just because one has knowledge doesn't mean one has wisdom, knowledge without wisdom is arrogance.  Which brings us to the age old argument of environment over inheritance.  Are these maroons claiming the Masai tribesmen are inherently smarter than pygmys?  From an environmental view, all height reflects is better nutrition not necessarily better genes (in this case different genes) or intelligence. 

 “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius