A funny thing happened a few days after Al Gore’s concerts to draw attention to global warming concluded: a significant study out of England stating that changes in the sun’s output are not responsible for climate change went almost thoroughly ignored by America’s media.
A report by the BBC on Tuesday, which demonstrably challenged one of the key arguments made by anthropogenic global warming skeptics, would normally have been greeted with great enthusiasm by press representatives in the States always looking to highlight stories supporting their green agenda.
Yet, of the major American news organizations, only Bloomberg gave this new study any attention:
Recent global warming isn't a result of solar radiation, scientists said, disputing a theory advanced by some researchers as an alternative to the United Nations' view that temperatures are rising as a result of human activities.
The scientists examined historical records of solar activity over the past century, studying measures such as the number of sunspots and the amount of light emitted. They found that the total radiation from the sun peaked in 1985, according to Mike Lockwood, co-author of the paper published today in the U.K. journal Proceedings of the Royal Society A.
Sounds like something our media should have eaten up, wouldn’t you agree? Yet, none did.
Could this be connected to Live Earth’s massive flop? Well, ABCNews.com published an article Thursday suggesting such (emphasis added):
But are Americans experiencing "green fatigue"? The ratings for Live Earth, which was billed as a must-see event, were dismal. The American broadcast drew just 2.7 million viewers, making it the least-watched U.S. program on Saturday night. Despite its undeniable entrenchment in pop culture and media, some experts say that the current incarnation of the green movement is just another "We Are the World" moment that consumers and businesses won't be able to sustain over the long term.
Quite an indictment just five days after these much-heralded concerts, wouldn’t you agree? The Los Angeles Times wasn’t even this kind in its assessment of this event in a piece called “Live Earth Dead” (emphasis added):
The good news for Al Gore is that his Live Earth concert highlights show on NBC, designed to raise public awareness about global warming, attracted some 19 million viewers at one point or another Saturday night, according to Nielsen ratings released late yesterday.
The bad news is that more than 16 million of those folks switched away from the three-hour concert that consumed the network's prime time Saturday evening.
[…]
This left NBC with about 2.7 million viewers to earn fourth place for the night behind ABC with 3.4 million, Fox with 4.6 million and CBS with 5.2 million.
[…]
In Britain, the BBC reported 3.1 million watched the show, which was less than a third of the 11.4 million audience for the Princess Diana concert two weeks ago.
Yikes. Those are some absolutely horrible numbers which must have garnered the attention of news producers and editors across the globe making climate change stories less appealing at the current time.
Of course, another reason Lockwood’s paper may have been ignored is due to its obvious flaws. As Marc Sheppard pointed out at the American Thinker Wednesday:
However, observe they, the sun's magnetic field has declined since 1985, even as the world heats up. It is the "rapid rise in global mean temperatures" during this 22 year period ALONE which they claim "cannot be ascribed to solar variability."
Imagine that-- less than a quarter of a century? Even though old Sol has been bombarding us with its warming rays for over 4.5 billion years and clear Sun/Climate correlations have been observed spanning millennia.
Is it possible media recognized that Lockwood’s study indeed confirmed a sun/climate relationship prior to 1985, and that using just the recent 22-year disjoint as proving anything – assuming that is even the case – is quite specious in the grand scheme of things?
Regardless of the answer, ABC certainly feels this global warming movement might have peaked:
According to unpublished NPD Group data, while 57 percent of people are interested in eco-friendly products, only 19 percent believe that they are worth paying extra money for or that they actually make a difference.
"A lot of the companies are a lot more interested in speaking in the environmental conversation" than effecting real change, [Marshal Cohen, chief industry analyst for NPD Group] said, and savvy consumers are beginning to realize that.
"'If they don't make it easy for me, then I'm not going to be bothered with it,'" Cohen said, describing what consumers have told him in his research. "'I'm not willing to sacrifice my money to do that.'"
This attitude was reflected in concertgoers who attended Live Earth, he said.
"The majority of the people at the rock concert -- they believed that it was good information, but they're not going to change their lifestyle because of it," he said.
There apparently is great precedent for environmental fads to peter out with time:
This isn't the first time green has gone chic, according to Robert Thompson, the founding director of the Bleier Center for Television and Popular Culture at Syracuse University.
"Of course we've been through this before -- the whole consciousness about pollution [when] we had the first Earth Day" in 1970, Thompson said. "There was a real kind of environmental awareness. Then it began to sort of fade away."
"Causes that have long-term staying power tend to be those that are affecting our everyday life in ways that we actually recognize," Thompson said. Typically, the environment has not been one of those causes, he continued.
As long ago as 1972, the waning attention span of the American public for environmental issues has been reported. That year, Anthony Downs, a Brookings Institute scholar, wrote a paper called "The Issue Attention Cycle" about how environmental issues are perceived by the public.
The paper details five stages from a public unaware of the problem to an enthusiastic response and finally to waning enthusiasm. The cycle has held up with environmental issues over the years.
Will global warming alarmism suffer the same fate? Certainly, it’s too early to tell.
However, it should also be noted that in the week following these concerts, two major media outlets have suddenly taken on the bottled water issue. NewsBusters reported here and here that ABC’s “World News” has suddenly focused on this matter, beginning the Sunday after Live Earth.
Some coincidence, wouldn’t you agree?
And, the aforementioned ABCNews.com article reported the following:
This fall, Women's Health, which declined to speak to ABCNEWS.com because it was just beginning its planning process, announced Monday that it will release a "blue" issue this fall, focusing on issues surrounding water.
Similarly, bottled water, both for its nonrecyclable containers and its production costs, has become an environmental hot topic. High-profile mayors like Gavin Newsom in San Francisco and Rocky Anderson in Salt Lake City banned the use of bottled water in government offices, while nationwide some restaurants are eliminating it from their menus as well.
In a report last week, ABC News crunched the numbers on bottled water -- taking into account mileage and fuel requirements -- and found that even before you drink that one-liter (or 33.8 ounce) bottle of French water in Chicago, you've already consumed roughly 2 ounces of oil, which doesn't include the petroleum used to make the plastic. In addition, the entire process -- bottling, packaging and shipping -- creates pollution and greenhouse gases.
Will blue then become the new green? Only time will tell.
The reality is that if ABC News is beginning to punt on global warming, other outlets may also be looking at the dismal ratings of Live Earth, and recognizing that this hysteria has run its course. After all, the alarmism began with Hurricane Katrina which is approaching its second anniversary. If 2007 ends up being as weak a tropical storm year as 2006, the fear evoked from images out of New Orleans might completely dissipate as will the public’s faith in meteorologists and climatologists predicting such catastrophic events.
Without such natural disasters, the public’s interest in spending money on thwarting this liberal bogeyman might evaporate quicker than a raindrop on a Phoenix sidewalk in the middle of summer.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters.
















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I have a hard time listening
July 12, 2007 - 15:18 ET by dabalI have a hard time listening to any "study" or group of scientists that fail to include the most basic observation about Global Warming, and the most convincing argument against AGW....
The fact that it is happening THROUGHOUT THE SOLAR SYSTEM, not just on Earth. Damn those Martian and Saturnian SUVs!
By the way, geniuses, you don't have 100 years of historical data on the sun's output.
I guess that makes you a bunch of lying jerks, doesn't it !
I wonder if warming is really
July 12, 2007 - 17:46 ET by mattmI wonder if warming is really happening or if it's just a matter of having better measurement technology than ever.....
Something to ponder, anyway...
Though instruments are differ
July 12, 2007 - 18:50 ET by danboThough instruments are different and the way temps are taken. There's also alot of ajusrtments going on. And adjustment, here. And adjustment there everywhere an adjustment. And ole Al Gore has global warming.
Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge will be shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods. Albert Einstein
I have to admit I'm skeptical
July 12, 2007 - 15:19 ET by BruzillaI have to admit I'm skeptical of any negative reporting on Al Gore's recent activities. I can't tell what is objective analysis and when I'm reading/hearing talking points from the Hillary Opponent Suppression Team. It seems since talk of Gore running for President really picked up, the number of less-than-flattering reports seems to be picking up too. I doubt all these Lib newsfolk are changing their tune because more and more evidence is being presented to dispute Gore's predictions. My guess is Hillary's fingerprints are all over these reports.
Bruz
July 12, 2007 - 15:29 ET by Noel SheppardBruz,
Recent speculation is that Gore will never run for president again. If he did, he would have to turn over his tax returns, and these would show just how much money he's made off of this canard. He's not going to do that, for then not only would it probably kill his presidential hopes, it would ruin his money-maker.
In the end, this has been a brilliant maneuver by Gore. He recognized that rising energy prices along with more active hurricane seasons would fit perfectly with global warming alarmism. He started a mutual fund to invest in "green companies," got Hollywoodans to back his schlockumentary, and rode this wave for about $100 million in after-tax profit.
Pretty spectacular, really. I'm envious. However, he has MUCH more to lose by running for president at this point in time than to gain. At least, that's the present conventional wisdom. ns
Hi. I don't know who's spec
July 12, 2007 - 15:38 ET by BruzillaHi. I don't know who's speculation you've been listening to, but all the tea leaves and jungle drums I'm following say there's only one reason why Gore had been pushing this issue AND losing weight, and that's another run. I saw a poll last night where Gore was at 16%, second to Hillary.
I'm hoping that Gore does run because that'll be Hillary's biggest nightmare. He knows her hot buttons, he knows where all the skeletons are buried, and it wouldn't take too much abuse from Hillary's folks for him to open up on her with both barrels.
Tipper to the rescue
July 12, 2007 - 15:41 ET by dagdaWhere was Tipper Gore when all the profanity and foul language was going on on stage? Wasn't she the one who wanted to have lyrics censured? Am I mistaken on this?
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Well... looking at the pictur
July 12, 2007 - 15:50 ET by BruzillaWell... looking at the picture above, I'm guessing she was spending her time being more ticked about Al cavorting with a skimpilly-clad Diaz than who was swearing on the stage.
Bruzilla,He knows her hot but
July 12, 2007 - 15:57 ET by Dave RBruzilla,
He knows her hot buttons, he knows where all the skeletons are buried, and it wouldn't take too much abuse from Hillary's folks for him to open up on her with both barrels.
I'd love to see Al run as well, if for no other reason than to watch him and the Hildebeast tear each other to shreds.
You make a good point about Al's knowing where the bodies are burried as far as the Clinton's are concerened. However, that is a two-edged sword, and in this case, I think Hillary is carrying the sharper, as well as the larger, implement. In the end, I believe Hillary would prevail, as her people are far and away better at destroying her opponents than is Al and his timid crowd. After all, the Clinton's have been doing it for decades.
While Al does have a great deal of support on the part of many in the liberal MSM, I sense that Hillary's support in that area is far stronger. I also think that Al is scared to death of the Clintons in general, and Hillary in particular, and lacks the stones to really go after her.
And Noel is correct, as many of the finacial diclosures he would be required to make would have to be explained. He has his millions, why put himself through that, and also have to deal with the treachery of the Clinton War Room?
If I were Al, I'd be laughing all the way to the bank.
Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.
Regarding the tea leaves, I t
July 12, 2007 - 16:44 ET by Gat New YorkRegarding the tea leaves, I think that Gore has/is keeping this open. It is apparent that he has used this issue to rehabilitate his image and relevance within the Democrat party. To that point he has accomplished his mission.
But it appears he overplayed his hand on this issue by being inflexible and not engaging open dialog. I believe that by engaging opposition he would have made himself more relevant and credible. To that point he has apparently blown it till now.
There is still time for some dynamics to shift but I think he went too far. And anytime your closest political ally if Bobby Kennedy Jr. then you are in trouble.
. . . . but at least he got to hang out with Cameron Diaz.
Wait a minute. Wasn't Diaz
July 12, 2007 - 21:15 ET by SpockWait a minute. Wasn't Diaz the one busted recently for wearing a bag with a terrorist image or slogan on it?
I think she was wearing some
July 13, 2007 - 12:19 ET by Gat New YorkI think she was wearing some Che Guevera handbag.
I believe this is what you ar
July 13, 2007 - 12:28 ET by RESTLESS 1I believe this is what you are thinking of.
Are Americans experiencing gr
July 12, 2007 - 15:24 ET by bigtimerAre Americans experiencing green fatigue?
YES!
Not just yes.....but hell YES!
People are not even listening to the BS much anymore except for the wackos with an agenda and the politico's that get major contributions from them and therefore vote that way...which does and will hurt us in more ways than one.
Unfortunately.
Of course, another reason Loc
July 12, 2007 - 15:32 ET by Jack BauerOf course, another reason Lockwood’s paper may have been ignored is due to its obvious flaws.
I could buy that, if it weren't for the fact that obvious flaws don't ussually stop the media printing the most asinine unscientific rubbish from MMGWers
Obvious Flaws
July 12, 2007 - 23:58 ET by brewski01So, Jack Bauer. Can you expand on one or two of the 'obvioius flaws' (in some detail) without calling me names. Is it possible for you speak on the issue and not regurgitate a bunch of stale 'ExxonMobil' talking points?. Stand up to the plate big boy, and put up or shut up!
Wow! For someone who is dem
July 13, 2007 - 13:49 ET by steviep831Wow! For someone who is demanding respectful dialogue, you sure are doing a horrible job of it yourself...
Exxon-Mobil
July 13, 2007 - 15:48 ET by SPRENIs it possible for you to put more than two sentences together without mentioning Exxon? They have done much more for this country than Gore supporters like you.
Fine point about Phoenix.
July 12, 2007 - 15:37 ET by dagdaThe middle of the summer in Phoenix is the monsoon. We get about half of our yearly rainfall now. When rain hits the sidewalk, it does not evaporate, cause a lot of it is coming down and it is coming down fast. We have real problems with flash flooding in Phoenix area and around the state because of the vast amount of rain that comes down in a short space of time.
Please be more accurate when you describe the weather in the Phoenix area.
Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower
Dagda
July 12, 2007 - 16:05 ET by Noel SheppardDag,
Yikes. Wake up on the wrong side of the bed? This was a literary analogy to evoke a hopefully humorous image. It wasn't intended to be a weather report.
Sorry to have upset you so. Do you want a hug? :-) ns
rain? in phoenix?
July 12, 2007 - 16:18 ET by sixlbs9ozThere's this thing called virga (not to be confused with Viagra) which is rain that never reaches the ground. We get that a lot here in Phoenix. It's so stinking hot and dry that the rain just evaporates mid-air. It looks cool, though.
Let's hope that this global warming alarmism becomes less and less chic and more and more an obvious overreaching effort to promote governmental control.
Oops. I guess I was yet ano
July 12, 2007 - 16:20 ET by sixlbs9ozOops. I guess I was yet another Phoenician to go too far with the analogy.
New baby? "There are
July 12, 2007 - 16:20 ET by MightyMouthNew baby?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
I would expect the numbers re
July 12, 2007 - 16:22 ET by RESTLESS 1I would expect the numbers reported about people not being willing to spend more for green options. Wait until the governments come after their money, either through taxes or businesses passing along extra costs associated with cap and trade regulations.
It seems reasonable to me that when noone notices the enviroment changing, despite the shirll protestations of the gw'ers, that interest will wane. It still feels every bit as hot in San Antonio during summer as it ever has. As a matter of fact, until this week, it has been considerably cooler these last few months due to all of the rain we have experienced lately.
...and up here by the Canadia
July 12, 2007 - 16:28 ET by bigtimer...and up here by the Canadian border we are having a drought somewhat...
It hasn't rained as it usually does for a good month or more and we are staying between 90-100 for better than two weeks just about...and more to come.
Very hot hot hot....haven't seen it like this in a long long time, more than a decade if memory serves me correctly....fire season at the tipping point, I am worried.
Dang that Algore anyway ....
How're you doing Bigtimer? I
July 12, 2007 - 16:39 ET by RESTLESS 1How're you doing Bigtimer?
I hope conditions improve for you guys, but as you have apparently seen this weather pattern up there before, we can assume that this isn't the first time. It just goes to show that weather is cyclical and chaotic. Just last year, we had one of the dryest summers ever. My grass is just now starting to recover. A couple of years before that, we had a wet summer. This past winter, I scraped ice, thick ice, of of my truck for three straight days, not an impressive number by your standards, no doubt, but pretty rare here. Even so, it has happened here before, and will happen again in the future. I wish Al Gore and HIS toadies, (one finger salute to RFK) would stop making every change in the weather some kind of climate disaster.
Sorry for the rant. Done for now.
Restless...Howdy back at ya..
July 12, 2007 - 16:45 ET by bigtimerRestless...
Howdy back at ya...
Of course I have seen it like this before here...it is cyclical....period.
We most likely are going to have a very hard winter, this year or next that is what happened last time too...we had over 13 feet of snow...
Dang it all anyway.
I actually liked the ice stor
July 12, 2007 - 16:50 ET by RESTLESS 1I actually liked the ice storm last winter. Everybody here gets all excited if it looks like it might snow or something. Of course, it is rare down here, so most haven't seen a big snowfall, secondly, we are usually coming off of some oppressively humid, hot summer, so the cold, dryer air is mighty refreshing too.
NOEL! sshhhhhhhhh.... be ve
July 12, 2007 - 16:38 ET by Sick-n-TiredNOEL! sshhhhhhhhh.... be vewy qwiet----don't help the bwain-deads out! ;>) haha!
Cheers!
The glaciers will be gone in
July 12, 2007 - 17:10 ET by USnotU.S.The glaciers will be gone in 20 to 30 years.
I know that doesn't matter to you just now, but it will!
I'd rather it didn't ruin you too.
ROFLMAO!
July 12, 2007 - 17:13 ET by bigtimerROFLMAO!
Glaciers are big cold uninhab
July 12, 2007 - 17:15 ET by Clear thinkerGlaciers are big cold uninhabitable places and take up land that could be used for oil exploration. I say good riddance to them!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Where the hell did you get t
July 12, 2007 - 17:34 ET by RESTLESS 1Where the hell did you get that little fact from snotnose? Let me guess, you saw it in gore's movie. I am astonished that you will take the word of an egomanical dumbass such as al gore who has no scietific credentials but will ignore scientists linked here on numerous occasions whose credentials are beyond reproach. Weather is cyclical. It is chaotic and always changes. What about this is so hard for your to understand. You have seen it throughout your life as have we all. Quit spewing nonsense and do some critical thinking of your own instead of letting algore make your mind up for you.
Bravo!The liberal MSM has bec
July 12, 2007 - 17:37 ET by Clear thinkerBravo!
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Well, if it weren't for the m
July 12, 2007 - 18:06 ET by QueenMumWell, if it weren't for the melting of glaciers we wouldn't have the Great Lakes. I like the Great Lakes.
We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria
Just let them be stupid.
July 12, 2007 - 20:01 ET by The PhoenixJust let them ^^be stupid. Don't you just LOOOOve their signature blocks?
Clear Thinker-The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
It is in the Neocon agenda to purport that Myth. Thus Brent Bozell runs this site.
and
QueenMum-We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria
As if that did any good for the British Empire...lol.
and there is this one guy who keeps on quoting our "fearless leader". That is always quite a hoot.
In my honest opinion these Neocon wannabes are just tools. They will never be part of the moneyed elite the so ardently defend. Nor If they do acquire money will they be accepted into that "Skull and Bones" type of circlejerk.
Just let them be dumbasses and get on with your life.
Oh Phoenix....Yohoo...You are
July 12, 2007 - 20:08 ET by bigtimerOh Phoenix....
Yohoo...
You are on the wrong thread for this tripe you just posted...go to open thread ..then whine, like only you leftists do so well.
Btw...I'm the other guy who says Your Fearless Leader...he is something to be real proud of eh?
;-) I love you too Bigtimer
July 12, 2007 - 20:37 ET by The Phoenix;-) I love you too Bigtimer,
Except you calling yourself a guy is misleading. I thought you were a Granny who lets little girls destroy video tapes just because they believe your poison.
This whole thread is just a bit ludicrous. Just saying that the Live Earth concert was a flop doesn't make it so. It was a very powerful event for the billion or so people who saw or listened to some of it.
But then that is what NeoCon(victs) do. This site was created to do just exactly that. Just when private/corporate interests started to control most of the media outlets Newsbuster was created to make it seem that just those Facist media owners were the underdog in the media. And if anyone who asked the really tough questions or pointed to the man behind the curtain they were held up as the example djour of the liberal media gone amok.
Quite brilliant really.
If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in
superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate
him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease,
give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and
subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is
unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
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Listen Phoenix the Phoney....
July 12, 2007 - 20:41 ET by bigtimerListen Phoenix the Phoney....
Buddy of rhayes...
You know dang good and well I am a gal..you have been here for a very long time.
Move on to moveon.org...which would suit ya just perfectly...
A billion people watched the
July 12, 2007 - 20:51 ET by saw the lightA billion people watched the Dead Earth concerts? Really? One-sixth of the world's population watched it? Less than one one-hundredth of the American population watched it! They bombed, pure and simple. Algore has been shown time and time as the charlatan we here have always claimed.
I for one am tired of having people like Cameron Diaz, Leo DiCaprio, and other "celebrity" idiots preach at me. What expertise do they have, other than to be able to memorize and repeat lines?
"There is a tendency for the world to say to America, 'the big problems of the world are yours, you go and sort them out,' and then to worry when America wants to sort them out." - Prime Minister Tony Blair
Just yesterday Algore and a
July 12, 2007 - 21:36 ET by JerryJust yesterday Algore and all the little earthers were proclaiming 2 BILLION viewers. Every TV in Zimbabwe must have been tuned in. Every hut in the Serengeti was abuzz. All together now... let's all jump up and down to stop global warming.
When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).
Snotty, have you ever considered a career in comedy?
July 12, 2007 - 22:39 ET by Dave RSnotty,
Have you ever considered a career in comedy? I mean, you're a laugh a minute!
Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.
The photo frightens me. Whe
July 12, 2007 - 17:19 ET by GalvanicThe photo frightens me. Where do I buy my Cameron-offsets?
Galv......LOL...You might wan
July 12, 2007 - 17:24 ET by bigtimerGalv...
...LOL...
You might want to ask Ann Curry....ya never know she may have your answer.
These enviros reminds me o
July 12, 2007 - 17:34 ET by acadia1755These enviros reminds me of a Movie( can't remember the name) Were this race car driver is running around screaming I am on fire!
Does not matter what anyone tells him in his mind he was on fire and it did not matter if evidence proved him wrong!
Same here Glaciers are advancing but keep on repeating they are retreating instead.
One
Would think if these folks care so much about the planet,like they claim, they would rejoice when their doomsday scenario does not come true?After all it is good news.
AGW
July 12, 2007 - 19:59 ET by pbthinkerThe Local Rag, on the back of the Sports Page, puts the weather page. On this page they have the temperatures, from around the world, around the nation, and local. Along with this, they post the low and high for the day plus the record low and high and what year this took place. There are a couple of things amazing about this, the first being when the record highs were, and they truly vary from 1916 to 1944 to 1966 to 1996, and when the lows occurred, also a variable year with little consistent. I follow this every day and, if I weren't such a procrastinator, I would make a chart of them for myself, but it amazes me how you can believe in Global warming and look at the local temperature data.
Now, I'm in Palm Beach Country, Florida and have been here since 1984. I can tell you that wind direction has more to do with our local temperature than the sun or global warming. If we have a breeze, off the Atlantic Ocean, our summer temperatures will stay in the 80 degree range. If the wind comes from the West, we'll be in the 90's or above, and that has been consistent since I've been here.
The AGW crowd has a lot to prove, to people like me at least, and they just haven't accomplished it. Why the media allows them to get away with it is beyond me. Hopefully, NBC realizes that can't get away with this again, since their advertisers will be reluctant to put out money for the ratings they're receiving. The ratings show me that there are more people, on my level of concern, than are on Al Gore's level of concern.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Proof? we ain't got no prooof
July 12, 2007 - 20:12 ET by botgProof? we ain't got no prooof, we don't need no stinkin' prooooof!
It's not easy being green
July 13, 2007 - 15:57 ET by SPRENI'm confused. How's come the "Greens" who want to see everything go green, are so desperately trying to eliminate the most basic element that makes things green? Can someone help me?
Spren
July 13, 2007 - 16:06 ET by Noel SheppardSpren,
Forgive me, but it's because they're idiots. I'm sorry, but there really isn't any other way of putting it.
After all, we want to do everything possible to prevent the destruction of the Amazon rainforest because much of the planet's oxygen comes from there, right? Well, if trees are essential for humans, and trees require CO2, how can CO2 be a bad thing?
Somehow, the greens in our country fail to make this simple connection. It's actually quite mind-boggling, really.
Of course, the other simple concept they're missing is that man is only responsible for 3 percent of the CO2 in the atmosphere. As we are now at 386 ppm, if man died off tomorrow, this would only reduce the current level by 11 ppm. Furthermore, as they are advocating a 90 percent reduction in human CO2 output, this would represent only a 10 ppm decrease.
Is it their view that the world would be a better place if CO2 in the atmosphere declined by 10 ppm.
How absolutely absurd! ns
10 ppm
July 14, 2007 - 11:02 ET by SPRENNoel,
It's just a very clear demonstration that this is a political rather than environmental agenda. The climate is just a pawn and the proverbial means to the end.