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Laundering tobacco-money. (

Laundering tobacco-money. (Once again, tiny Reason is head and shoulders above the rest of the news media on a major-hypocrites-story.)
JMR

Sarc, any statistics on the

Sarc, any statistics on the effects of the judgement against tobbaco companies WRT to the total number of smokers? Has that number decreased, increased or stayed the same?

My take is that either there was a substantial decrease in smoking OR there was a gigantic windfall to trial lawyers and state coffers financed by a sin tax on the poor. Or was it both?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

From off the top of my head

From off the top of my head, it affected young smokers with lower incomes much more than others, so (possibly combined with stuff like the jihad against "Joe Camel," I guess) the tax/payoff-to-the-well-connected disguised as a lawsuit might have -- in that limited area -- had positive effects. But mostly it's a regressive tax on the poor, and on those who (unlike BT & me) don't buy tobacco & roll their own for cheap. But the main point of the story is how tobacco money magically goes from being "evil" to being "good" by hitting the right bank account.
JMR

And now, today's Pittsburgh-h

And now, today's Pittsburgh-heavy edition of the Shrub Report®:

Live 8 got Pink Floyd, Live Earth got Spinal Tap.

Reason #681 why the French suck. And reason #682. I love this guy!

Remember, with Communism, everybody is equal. It's just that some people are more equal than others.

Pittsburgh beats Cleveland. As usual. And again.

Running of the Rosies?

Could someone please tell these Paranoid nutjobs in Russia that this is the 21st century?

More proof that "governmental stupidity" is a universal term.

The latest sneakiness by the Democrat(ic)s in Congress: misidentifying Gold Star families when requesting tours of the White House. You see, Gold Star families of Iraq/Afghan war can get a tour of the WH. The current administration set this up, to honor these families. They had decided that Vietnam-era families would not qualify, since 50,000+ families would overwhelm the WH staff. So, here how this scheme works: the Dems get a request from a Vietnam-era GS family. They then request a tour of the WH, not informing the WH this family is Vietnam-era. The WH does background check, discovers the mistake, and informs said congress(wo)man of the error (this rule is in the WH handbook every congress(wo)man has). Then the congress(wo)man takes this "rejection" and heads straight to the newspapers, screaming "George Bush hates Gold Star families!!". This information came from Jim Quinn this morning. If anybody has heard about this and/or has more information, please feel free to add your input! Ain't politics great?

Pennsylvania's favorite mobster, Fast Eddie, lays off "non-essential" state workers as leverage in state budget battle. The following departments were not affected: casinos, the lottery, and liquor stores. Damn those Republicans for trying to stop Eddie's numerous tax increases!

Speaking of Pennsylvania, 252 years ago, the worst defeat by the British in the French and Indian War occurred on the banks of the mighty Monongahela River near Pittsburgh. About 250 French and 800+ Indians ran into 1,500 British troops, killing 450+ and wounding another 420 or so (while the French side lost less than 20).  After General Braddock was mortally-wounded, a young, 22-year old colonel named George Washington took over and led an orderly retreat east (where he would lost another battle at Fort Necessity). This Shrubber has been to both battlefields (and Braddock's grave), and it is a little piece of US history that everybody should experience.

When Clintonistas attack!

Now Chavez want to "re-write" the Venezuelan constitution. Oh, BDS-sufferers, THIS is what you claim Chimpy McHitler of doing, while your hero is ACTUALLY doing it.

Meanwhile, in the socialist paradise (and Carl Kolchak's favorite vacation spot) of Zimbabwe, things are really looking good!

Today's birthdays: it is the unholy trinity: O.J. Simpson, John Tesh, and Courtney Love! Oh, the humanity!

Whew. That was long!

I'm just heartened that boo

I'm just heartened that booze & gambling are considered "essential," even by states backward-enough to think they should run such businesses as monopolies instead of letting the marketplace take care of it.
JMR

If they are truly "non-e

If they are truly "non-essential" employees then why would they be on the payroll even when the budget is finally approved?

What a wonderful message the Governor is sending to employees: "Stay home. Your job is non-essential."

I wonder, does Rendell qualify as non-essential?

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

There are days when I have

There are days when I have to admit, I wish my vote counted as 10 because other people don't seem to pay attention to what they're doing, especially when it comes to control freakery and prohibition of any sort. They see the chance to control others, and they instinctively jump at it, not expecting it to backfire on themselves, Yosemite Sam cartoon style, when it invariably-does.
JMR

Speaking of Pittsburgh... onl

Speaking of Pittsburgh... only 13 more days until Steelers training camp opens!!!

Booya! Autograph night July 2

Booya! Autograph night July 27th @Latrobe stadium..

Back in the day, I used to be able to pat Lambert, Bradshaw, and Ham on the back and get their picture as they walked up the hill from the practice field. Last year, there was 10,000 at autograph night. Hopefully there will be fewer bandwagon-jumpers this year!

I wouldn't count on it.  My

I wouldn't count on it.  My son and I were at Fan Blitz at Heinz Field back in April and the lines to get autographs and pictures were horrendous.  We stood in line for over half the day just to get a few autographs, and missed out on a lot of activities.  Next year we're leaving the autograph items at home and going to enjoy all the activities.

Crap. Thx for the heads-up.

Crap. Thx for the heads-up.

Roger,  Would "the Runn

Roger,

  Would "the Running of the Rosies" be renamed the "Running of the Bulldykes"?  LOL!!!!

Clintonistas

Anyone know of the whereabouts of Sandy Burglar this weekend?  Bet those hard drives just happened to end up in his socks!!!

CATO looks at Conservatives

CATO looks at Conservatives and the Presidency in a timely-IMO piece.
JMR

The new weather girl at Fox

The new weather girl at Fox is really hot, but not in a global warming kind of way.

Dominica Davis?? AMEN!!!!JM

Dominica Davis?? AMEN!!!!
JMR

"Dominica Davis?? AMEN

"Dominica Davis?? AMEN!!!!"

Yep, that's the one.

MEOW!

I think just watching her &

I think just watching her & Laurie Dhue and 2 or three of the others in make-up would be way more interesting than most of their content. To guys like us, anyway. Fox could sell it as a "behind the scenes" reality show, and it would probably take the feminists at least a few weeks to discover -- to their outrage -- that it concentrated only on the hotties. (I keep coming up with great reality-show ideas for free -- first "follow Joey Chestnut" and now this! Where's my job/check!!??)
JMR

All those dykey feminists are

All those dykey feminists are secretly loving 'em, too.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

From the 1/2 Hour News Hour l

From the 1/2 Hour News Hour last night:  "Barrack Obama's campaign reported raising over $32,000,000 dollars.  That's the most money raised by a Democrat since the last time John Kerry said 'I Do'."  That broke me up.

Source of Monies

Let's see where this money came from?  Could it be dead people in Chicago-no they only vote!  Could it be George Soros-most likely?  Maybe $90,000 from William Jefferson-Dim La?  Or since nobody knows, maybe that's why his office was broken into this weekend-darn that Sandy Burglar, bet he put those hard drives in his socks by mistake!! 

Yesterday was my favorite Sun

Yesterday was my favorite Sunday of the year.  The Wimbledon Men's Tennis Finals pre-empted MEET THE PRESS.  No Tim Russert.  No 3 against 1 "balanced" panel discussions.  No gotchas.  What a delightful morning. . . . . and I don't even like tennis that much. 

Staring at a blank t.v. scree

Staring at a blank t.v. screen is more stimulating and educational.  Tim Russert really, really has turned to the Dark Side.  Tennis sucks, too.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

Just had this e-mailed to me.

Just had this e-mailed to me.  It's been around, but it's pretty good:

ORANGE COUNTY ( CALIFORNIA ) NEWSPAPER

This is a very good letter to the editor. This woman made some good points. For some reason, people have difficulty structuring their arguments when arguing against supporting the currently proposed immigration revisions. This lady made the argument pretty simple.

NOT printed in the Orange County Paper................... Newspapers simply won't publish letters to the editor which they either deem politically incorrect (read below) or which does not agree with the philosophy they're pushing on the public. This woman wrote a great letter to the editor that should have been published; but, with your help it will get published via cyberspace!

New Immigrants

From: "David LaBonte"

My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I decided to "print" it myself by sending it out on the Internet.

Pass it along if you feel so inclined.

Dave LaBonte (signed)Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register:

Dear Editor:

So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggests we should tear down the Statue of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer. Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.

They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.

Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity. Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany , Italy , France and Japan . None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan . They were defending the United States of America as one people. When we liberated France , no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.

And here we are in 2006 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about. I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900's deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.

And for that suggestion about taking down the Statue of Liberty , it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.

(signed) Rosemary LaBonte

Excellent

Could probably get this signed by at least 2/3 of Americans now and sent to all TV stations, radio stations, newspapers, mags, etc.  Start a petition for such!

I love the highly romanticize

I love the highly romanticized views of our ancestors, but how about some reality.  Why did immigrants in the early 1900s endure all of these problems?  Was it because they wanted to, or because they had to?  Does anyone really think that all those millions of immigrants would have been willing to wait in line, get examined, make pledges, etc., if they weren't being herded like sheep off a ship and onto an island?  If they came off the ship, were handed forms, told "be back here two weeks from today for your processing", and let on their way... how many do you think would have come back to be processed?  If they didn't have to take a ship over from Europe, but could instead just walk across a border between say Germany and the US, how many do you think would make the trek to Ellis Island?

I don't see much difference between my greatgrandparents who came from Germany and Mexicans.  My ancestors did what they did because they had no other choice.  Given a choice between spending hundreds of dollars, weeks of processing, and a long ship ride coming to the US, at the risk of maybe not being allowed in, and just walking across the border... I think greatgranddad would have jumped the border. 

WOW! What a great letter! T

WOW! What a great letter! That the editor chose not to publish is disgusting!

Here are some similar thoughts found at Little Green Footballs user comments (LGF user is z9z99):

Some random thoughts for an open thread:

...some things that the left misunderstand
about the constitution. Maybe a reason for this is that when the
founders set up the government, they thought its purpose was to defend
the borders, regulate commerce, deliver the mail, maintain roads, that
sort of thing. It didn't occur to them that the purpose of the
government was to keep people from being offended, make sure that we
are liked abroad, have someone to take care of us if we choose not to do
so ourselves, and to allow every whimsical indulgence that appeals to
infantile egos. Maybe the reason that some on the left seem to
misunderstand the Constitution is that they start from the premise that
it was written to gratify their wants, rather than to allow a free
people to govern itself.

I made the mistake of watchin

I made the mistake of watching CBS news yesterday.  Schumer was on describing his latest plan to withdraw troops from Iraq.  He said he would like to leave a small force (a unit or 2) just in case Al Qaeda sets up camp there after they leave.  I started talking to the TV, "OK, so if they set up camp there after a troop pull out, what are you planning on doing?  increasing the troop levels to fight them?  because THEY ARE ALREADY THERE!!!!!!"  I had to mute the tv, my blood pressure was getting to high.

Schumer proves he's an idiot.

A unit or 2, can not be self suficient and deal with all possibilities themselves. Where would they get air support from, the Iraqis? Where would they get intelligence from, Al Qaeda? Where would they get maintence services from, Iran?

This is why you leave the actual execution to the military. They have all these things figured out and will put in place what they need to do the job. The last time that Congress decided to specify exactly how the military would conduct their operations was a complete disaster - it was called Viet Nam.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

support

They can get all the support they need from all the people turning in their "stories" for the "reporters" in Iraq now.

I can't stand Schumer.  They

I can't stand Schumer.  They should play his interviews for prisoners at Gitmo.  Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.

Now for something a little

Now for something a little bit different:
I understand the terroists of this world are more and more inclined to use Muslim women as
homicide bombers. Okay, answer me this. If the Muslim men get 72 virgins, or whatever the
amount is, upon killing thmeselves and murdering innocents, what do the muslim women get?
Upon vaporization, do they find themselves in an HGTV dream home with a magnificent kitchen
and toilets that clean themselves? I'm quite sure the coward terroist leaders do not entice
them with, let's say, 72 Brad Pitts.

72 closets of new shoes? Or b

72 closets of new shoes? Or burkas?

72 virgin camels. Hell would

72 virgin camels. Hell would be 72 bars of soap.

THIS one is making the rounds

THIS one is making the rounds....on the internet.....

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year.

http://tinyurl.com/z...

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.

http://www.cis.org/a...

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.

http://www.cis.org/a...

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of

English!

http://transcripts.c...

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.

http://transcripts.c...

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.c...

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.c...

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers.

http://premium.cnn.c...

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.

http://transcripts.c...

http://transcripts.c...

10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that's two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States .

> http://transcripts.c...

11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries . Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report:

http://tinyurl.com/t...

12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."

http://www.nationalp...

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

http://www.rense.com...

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ".

http://www.drdsk.com...

 

So using the LOWEST estimates, the annual cost OF ILLEGAL ALIENS is $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! So if deporting them costs between $206 and $230 BILLION DOLLARS, Get rid of em', We'll be ahead after the 1st year!!!

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

UK Bombers found guilty

The Sun reports...

Guilty verdicts in 21/7 case

By ONLINE REPORTER
July 09, 2007

FOUR men were found guilty today of an extremist Muslim plot to launch a series of suicide bomb attacks on the London transport system exactly two weeks after 7/7.

Muktar Said Ibrahim, Yassin Omar, Ramzi Mohammed and Hussain Osman were convicted of conspiracy to murder at London's Woolwich Crown Court.

The jury of nine women and three men have yet to reach verdicts on two other defendants in the trial.

The terror cell attempted to detonate hydrogen peroxide and chapatti flour bombs covered in shrapnel on three tube trains and a bus on July 21, 2005.

Their murderous plan only failed at the last moment because of problems with the home-made explosives, hot weather, or mere "good fortune", Woolwich Crown Court heard.

Ibrahim, Omar, Mohammed and Osman were unanimously convicted of conspiracy to murder after a six month trial.

They had claimed the bombs were fake and just a demonstration against the war in Iraq.

After delivering the four guilty verdicts, the jury were sent home until tomorrow when they will continue deliberations on the remaining two defendants, Manfo Kwaku Asiedu and Adel Yahya.

Trial judge Mr Justice Fulford QC told the jurors he would accept majority verdicts of 10-2. ...CONTINUES

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

Hey Jack,Thanks so much for t

Hey Jack,

Thanks so much for the update on what is going on in your part of the world....

This is great news.

Justice...just justice...in a civilized manner don't you know.

Please keep us informed when you can....anyway I am interested.

I just got back from a vacati

I just got back from a vacation in Branson, MO and one thing surprised me.  There seemed to be no Mexican workers in Branson doing the jobs Americans wont do.  I noticed the phenomena the third day and really looked for them really hard.  I wonder were they were.  You think a tourist mecca like Branson and the hotels and such there would be a great demand.

Now I live in Dallas TX and see Mexicans or those of Latin descent all over so its old to me, but when I hear all about the demand for low paid workers and see mostly old folks or even young ones doing menial work then I ask why are there none. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Geez, Rog.I thought you wrote

Geez, Rog.

I thought you wrote "Hillary is an invertebrate".

Maybe chasing these trolls has made me reading-deficient as well.

Thanks for the laugh, Blonde!

Thanks for the laugh, Blonde!

Roger,Tis a mere drop in the

Roger,

Tis a mere drop in the bucket....for all of the great stuff of yours that I've enjoyed.

You're not so bad, even if yo

You're not so bad, even if you are a Gator fan. hahah

Chomp, chomp.Three in a row,

Chomp, chomp.

Three in a row, Rog....wha chu (h/t botg) gonna du?

The passionate liberal versus

The compassionate liberal versus the mainstream media. I do not know who to pity more here.

I'M WITH FRED

If Condoleezza Rice just isn't available (say it isn't so!), perhaps Fred Thompson could choose Alaska's newest governor Sarah Palin for V.P.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

I hope not Free.Thompson/Hunt

I hope not Free.

Thompson/Hunter '08

Moore KO's CNN and Blitzer!

Gotta love Michael Moore! Christ, did he tear CNN and Blitzer a new one!

Loved the part where he keep repeating how the MSM trashed F-9/11 and Michael said he thought he was invited back on for an apology, being EVERYTHNG he said in the film turned out to be RIGHT and EVERYTHING CNN said was WRONG!

Then Michael was RIGHT ON TARGET when he accused Blitzer of NOT being able to tell the TRUTH because of his corporate masters. LOL! Blitzer couldn't deny it, his response was, "Well, it is a business." LOL! There you have it you excuse loving escape artists! Get it? IT's a BUSINESS. The TRUTH doesn't enter in to it!

Hah! I knew it!!

Hah! I knew it!! I was TOTALLY in-doubt (and, I'll admit, a bit disappointed) when we were told there were no politicians' names on the "DC Madam" phone-list. Well, it looks like my initial prediction that there's at least one was spot-on after all. Heh heh heh.
JMR

}}----> Whazzup sarc

Wonder if Larry Flynt pays off on his million dollar offer.

Let's watch and see if this gets limited airplay like Cold Cash Jefferson's situation.

One guy cheats on his wife and the other sells out his country.  Guess we're going to see how the "Fairness Doctrine" would handle this item.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Well, the politician in que

Well, the politician in question admitted it, so maybe he's planning to make the claim to Larry on himself!! Kinda a "retirement bonus" as it were, since I don't think his political career has much more gas at this point... And does anyone find it a bit odd that ABC news, when given this same politician's name, was unable to verify my prediction earlier? Mistake?? Or "mistake"??? And how many other names did ABC manage to "miss"? I don't know who's left on the Madam's list, but I'm willing to make a substantial bet nobody-here will want to cover as to who's not. :)
JMR

}}----> sarc

Why did I even bother to click.  I shoulda knewed it.

You're right.  Ron Paul ain't likely to be on the list.  I suspect Ron's a toe the line guy in that respect as well as in many other areas. 

Doubt Jimmy Carter will be either.  Jimmy's too busy trying to screw Israel.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Many of us who supported Ro

Many of us who supported Ron's LP campaign in '88 still knew very little of his wife Carol despite their long marriage. She's quite a lady IMO, which makes Dr. Paul a very lucky man -- no matter how this all turns out election-wise. IMO an underrated part of "family values" is actually putting some value on one's own family. I encourage everyone here to read Carol's story, you're certainly not going to get it from the MSM.
JMR

HAR! Fox News just dug up a

HAR! Fox News just dug up a quote from his wife from the Hillary "stand by your man" era invoking Lorena Bobbitt. I love it. This one's joke-fodder for a while! :) I love it when a politician can't keep it in his pants.
JMR

Just another Repub. Sex Scandal...yawn

Three cheers for Louisiana Senator David Vitter for becoming the only Senator to have his name appear on the infamous DC madam's list.

Now he has two prominent firsts in his career:

1)  Becoming the first Republican Senator elected from Louisiana since Reconstruction.

2)  Becoming the first Senator to have his phone number appear on the DC madam's list.

Oh boy.  For all the talk about Clinton's indiscretion, the Republican's sure have a lot of shananigans going on behind closed doors.  Time to start holding your own to the same standards to which you held Clinton yet?

Although, you all didn't care about Newt's affair (WHILE GOING AFTER CLINTON nonetheless) so I'm sure you'll place this little story in your 'ignore' file, but just thought I'd let you all know.

link

To be fair Leon, I am s

To be fair Leon, I am sure a lot of Democrats are on that list is well. I'm more concerned if the AG will be short on memory again.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288761,00.html

Shawn, I don't think so.  I

Shawn,

I don't think so.  I think Vitter will be the only Congress member caught up in this sting.

The numbers are common knowledge and soon enough they will be traced back to their owners.  If a Dems number was on there he'd already have admitted it like Vitter.  No point trying to hide at this point.

My bet is Vitter is the only one to be shamed by this revelation.

Got Precedence?

"....he'd (a Dem) already have admitted it...."

Got an example to support that comment?  Ha, ha.  A Dem admitting something before being outed?  Even a Dem admitting culpability (much less contrition) after undeniable proof would be a stretch.  Thanks for the belly laugh this morning Leon.

Long memory

I have a long memory and I do not remember a Dem getting out ahead of anything. I remember Clinton shaking his finger to chastise us for even thinking he had committed adultry. I remember Hillary screaming "conspiracy" but I do not remember them admitting it

Our real problem, then, is not our strength today; it is rather the vital necessity of action today to ensure our strength tomorrow. Dwight Eisenhower

Aquaman

Why does Teddy Kennedy keep coming to mind?  How many years has the Dem base reelected Teddy to the Senate since he left Mary Jo to fend for herself?  The demedia led us to believe Teddy left the scene in a rush to alert the authorities about his drunken, er.....lapse in judgement.  OK - that excuses (yeah, right!?!?) Teddy but what does this lack of accountability by Teddy's Dem base tell us about Dem voters?   And they want to decide who provides my national security?

"I am sure a lot of De

"I am sure a lot of Democrats are on that list is well..."

A statement that will be lost on the Screech Monkey Leon. There is only one evil in the world to him, Republicans. Also, as I predicted when the list was first announced, the Republicans would be the first to be outed. Well, lo and behold, a repuke is the first to the gallows. It will be interesting to see if any liberals are hung out by the liberal MSM. What are the odds? Slim to none, is my guess.

<edit> and Screech proves my point even as I type it! LOL!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

First of all, I was exactly

First of all, I was exactly as merciless on Newt's affair as I was with Slick Willie's stain, and that's exactly as merciless as I plan to be for the rest of this one's Senate career -- note I'm the one who first brought it up here. Hell, I might be planning to turn "Vitter" into a verb at this point, fer Chrissakes. Second of all, if every comic in earshot are all successful in forcing this one to resign, you will not be able to retroactively hold Slick to that standard because he already flunked it. But Slick's flunking of that standard doesn't mean I'll forsake ANY opportunity to make fun of this Vitter character, and everyone here who even halfway knows me knows it. Further, as I said above, with screening competence like ABC News already displayed in this very case, it's far from certain this is the only politician on that list. I sure as hell wouldn't put any money on it...
JMR

Sarc,Did you see this?  I lo

Sarc,

Did you see this?  I love when things like this happen.

Interesting Vitter Facts:

1)  He started his career in Congress by Replacing Republican Rep. Bob Livingston who resigned after disclosure of numerous affairs in 1998 (priceless!)

2)  When this occured, Vitter argued that infidelity should result in resignation:

“I think Livingston’s stepping down makes a very powerful argument that Clinton should resign as well and move beyond this mess,” he said. [Atlanta Journal and Constitution, 12/20/98]

Very funny.  What's up with these guys shouting from the moral high ground in public while wallowing in the mud in private. 

The best part was still the

The best part was still the Lorena Bobbitt comments from his wife -- which I'll again point-out were dug up on Fox News (yes, Faux News still needs to do their job and correct their lies, but rumor has it Reason's about do to some of their usual remedial journalism for the rest of the media in that case). My comment to Democrats AND Republicans on this might involve how wonderfully-useful ballot access laws have been at preventing other possible party choices in a state widely known for pervasive bipartisan political corruption.
JMR

Well, Leon, still conflating sex with lying to a Grand Jury?

Well, Leon, still conflating sex with lying to a Grand Jury?

Um...

Why can't you Liberals argue from fact rather than emotion?  No need to answer that, it is obvious.

Will David Vitter lose his license to practice law?  That would be called disbarment, the most horrible event in any lawyer's life, huh?

So, why was Clinton disbarred?  Have you read the case and the order disbarring him?

Um...

As I recall in Louisana it was culturally expected for the male family member to travel to NO once in a while to visit the feline species houses.

Oh well, it's all about sex, though, isn't it?

Let's throw that on the wall and see what sticks.  Nice try though.

ACA

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Quoted from:  'Acaiguana Notes from the Bomb Shelter' (soon to be a movie at theaters near you)

I never said anything about C

I never said anything about Clinton lying to a grand jury.  I was talking about the attacks he gets concerning his actual indiscretion, not his response to getting caught.

Ah, yes, response to gettin

Ah, yes, response to getting busted. Another area where your guy Slick seems to flunk compared to this one. The humor factor would be easier for guys like me with about a month of not-too-credible denial, don'tcha think?? And are you SURE you want to bring Slick Willie up, even amid this, considering all these flunkings I get to point-out?? I mean, if you'd quiet down, something I say about this guy being unable to keep it in his pants would probably eventually upset a NB partisan-Republican, but at this point you've filled the sky with easy targets.
JMR

Sarc,Yes I'm sure I wanted to

Sarc,

Yes I'm sure I wanted to bring Slick Willy up.  Again it has nothing to do with his lying, it has to do with people (esp. on this site) casting moral judgement upon him for cheating on his wife while ignoring people like Newt.

Easy targets?  Not following seeing as how his lying to a grand jury is not what I brought up.  I simply brought up his bedroom behavior as a comparison.  What he did after that is irrelevant.

As I already said, Newt WIS

As I already said, Newt WISHES I'd ignore his chronic inability to keep it in his pants while being married just as much as Rudy probably-does. And I guess what Slick and Vitter both did after being busted is only relevant to those of us who care about character, so you're right about that...
JMR

Sarc,I've never accused you o

Sarc,

I've never accused you of not being consistent in your beliefs/principles.

It's a breath of fresh air on this site, trust me.

Well, thanks, I guess. You

Well, thanks, I guess. You seemed to be generalizing about this site as a whole above, hence my replies, and I spent a couple of days annoying various people here with the truth about Newt's affair. I think I'm part of the NB community, even if I occasionally give the masthead a bit of hell, but some NB denizens might think of me as something far less-fresh in an elevator...
JMR

Nah Sarc,I wasn't generalizin

Nah Sarc,

I wasn't generalizing to everyone on this site, I was simply saying I've seen many attacks on Clinton based solely on his sexual indiscretion. 

I do remember your Newt work and it was great.  And you are part of the community.  Heck, even I'm part of the community, even if a lot of NBs dislike my presence.

I'm no fan of Debra, or her

I'm no fan of Debra, or her methods. Yet I find it interesting and brave of you to go after Debra now that she has been kicked out . . .

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FS,Petty petty.  I had no id

FS,

Petty petty.  I had no idea she was kicked off.  Must have missed that memo.

Furthermore, if you ask around, you'll find that I regularly confronted Debra on her beliefs. 

So nice try though.  Hey, at least your repsonse to me made sense for once, even if it was wrong.

you'll find that I regularl

you'll find that I regularly confronted Debra on her beliefs

I must have missed that. I plead inability to sort through the massive criticism she generated from all.

Hey at least your post was correct for once, even if you normally deal only in talking points.

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Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

I agree Free, I did find he

I agree Free, I did find her one note issues to be boring, frankly.

But I'm quite shocked she's been banned, if it is just her ideas that were found offensive to others. I usually don't bother with the threads I find really offensive. Like the truly evil 9/11 cabal of scum that lurks here like an flesh-eating virus.

She never used profanities, as far as I can recall -- and even mild little old me has been known to bomb in the occassional expletive deleted.

But -- we are all here at the sufferance of the 'management.'

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

I'm somewhat shocked, too,

I'm somewhat shocked, too, even though I don't share many of her beliefs she seemed relatively easy to ignore most of the time, just like the 9/11 stuff. Are we sure she's really banned? Was there some extra-big Deb-vs-XXX argument I missed?
JMR

Sarc - if you click on her

Sarc - if you click on her ID you get the infamous Page not found message.

Looks like she's banned.

Jack: Debra was given pretty

Jack: Debra was given pretty free reign here for a long time. Unfortunately, she stepped over the line in the Forum and posted one of her particularly offensive "articles" copied from her website. It was not the subject per se. Had more to do with the "tone" of the article. The decision to ban her came from the top.

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