ABC Suggests Rural Areas to Blame for Philadelphia's Murder Rate


ABC's World News Sunday presented a sympathetic look at Philadelphia city officials who are threatening to sue the Pennsylvania state government, "dominated by rural lawmakers" from hunting country, for blocking the city's push for more gun regulation in the face of a high murder rate. Correspondent David Kerley suggested a link between New York City's gun control laws and its lower murder rate. Kerley: "Philadelphia has more murders than New York, with six times the population. But unlike New York, Philadelphia cannot pass its own gun laws." Instead of presenting the argument that a greater rate of gun ownership could help reduce crime, Kerley merely showed a soundbite of a Republican lawmaker who argued that gun control would not affect criminals, before concluding: "That argument is being echoed across much of the country, as rural sensibilities continue to rule the gun debate, and cities like Philadelphia prepare for another night, and another shooting death." (Transcript follows)

During a plug for the story before a commercial break, anchor Dan Harris portrayed Philadelphia as a "desperate" city that was "in the cross-hairs" of the gun control debate. Harris: "A city desperate to stop the murders finds itself in the cross-hairs of a national debate on gun control."

Harris introduced the story by relaying the contention of Philadelphia gun control proponents that its city has a higher murder rate because the city must abide by gun laws set by a state government that is "dominated by rural lawmakers." Harris: "Philadelphia has to follow gun laws set by the state government, which is dominated by rural lawmakers. And city officials say that is why they have the highest murder rate of the nation's big cities -- 213 this year and counting."

Kerley began his report by recounting the story of a five-year-old girl who was shot to death while riding in a car. Kerley then suggested that the reason New York City has a lower murder rate than Philadelphia is because it has stricter gun laws than Philadelphia. Kerley: "Philadelphia has more murders than New York, with six times the population. But unlike New York, Philadelphia cannot pass its own gun laws."

The ABC correspondent then turned to one of the "frustrated city officials" who says they will "sue their own state government." City Councilman Darrell Clarke: "I can no longer continue to sit here and allow the level of violence to continue unabated simply because people don't feel it is appropriate to do what I believe is their mandatory duty."

When Kerley moved to the pro-gun side of the issue, and showed soundbites of Republican State Representative Steve Cappelli, the ABC correspondent referred to the interest of rural Pennsylvanians in hunting, but did not delve into the argument that high rates of gun ownership can reduce crime. Kerley: "But even the city councilman [Clarke] knows he's in for a bruising battle, one that he may not win. That's because the vast majority of Pennsylvania is rural. And guns and hunting are very important here in farm country." Notably, last May, ABC's John Stossel had discussed the self-defensive benefits of gun ownership on 20/20.

After hearing from Cappelli, who argued that new gun laws "will not impact the very element that's terrorizing that city," Kerley concluded: "That argument is being echoed across much of the country, as rural sensibilities continue to rule the gun debate. And cities like Philadelphia prepare for another night, and another shooting death."

Below is a complete transcript of David Kerley's story from the July 8 ABC News Sunday:

DAN HARRIS, before commercial break: And coming up here on World News this Sunday, a city desperate to stop the murders finds itself in the cross-hairs of a national debate on gun control. We'll take "A Closer Look."
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HARRIS: We're going to take "A Closer Look" tonight at gun control. Where you stand on this issue may depend on where you live. Urban Americans tend to favor strict gun laws. Rural Americans do not. But in one big city, they don't get to choose. Philadelphia has to follow gun laws set by the state government, which is dominated by rural lawmakers. And city officials say that is why they have the highest murder rate of the nation's big cities -- 213 this year and counting. ABC's David Kerley has the story.

DAVID KERLEY: Nearly every day, someone in Philadelphia is shot to death. Last fall, it was five-year-old Cashae Rivers.

KIM CARTER-FORD, Aunt of shooting victim: I couldn't imagine something like that going through my back and coming out my chest.

KERLEY: Riding in the back seat of a car, a bullet ripped through her heart.

CARTER-FORD: It does make you want to retaliate. But no one wants to just keep the cycle going.

KERLEY: A cycle that has caused the murder rate to soar at twice that of most major cities. In fact, Philadelphia has more murders than New York, with six times the population. But unlike New York, Philadelphia cannot pass its own gun laws. The state of Pennsylvania tells Philadelphia you can't pass a gun law?

DARRELL CLARKE, Philadelphia City Councilman: The state of Pennsylvania has preempted all of our abilities to deal with gun regulations.

KERLEY: So now, frustrated city officials say they will sue their own state government.

CLARKE: I can no longer continue to sit here and allow the level of violence to continue unabated simply because people don't feel it is appropriate to do what I believe is their mandatory duty.

KERLEY: These urban leaders say all they want is to restrict gun purchases to one a month, and require a yearly $10 registration fee, to target those who buy guns in bulk to sell to criminals. But even the city councilman knows he's in for a bruising battle, one that he may not win. That's because the vast majority of Pennsylvania is rural. And guns and hunting are very important here in farm country. You got a couple of bull's eyes there.

State Representative STEVE CAPPELLI (R-PA): Yes, I do.

KERLEY: Steve Cappelli has a concealed weapons permit. He's a hunter.

CAPPELLI: You're a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, aren't you?

Unidentified man: I certainly am.

KERLEY: And he's a Republican state representative. Philadelphia has a problem, don't they?

CAPPELLI: They are experiencing cultural genocide, to be blunt. Yes.

KERLEY: But Cappelli, like so many rural supporters of the Second Amendment, says gun limits won't work.

CAPPELLI: And any measure we give Philadelphia, any new regulation, any new authority to regulate firearms, will not impact the very element that's terrorizing that city.

KERLEY: That argument is being echoed across much of the country, as rural sensibilities continue to rule the gun debate. And cities like Philadelphia prepare for another night, and another shooting death. David Kerley, ABC News, Philadelphia.


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Philadelphia's problem

Philadelphia's problem is that it won't spend enough $$ on their police departement to patrol the known problem areas and control the drug dealers / gang mobs that rule large sections of the poor neighborhoods. There are sections of the city that even the police will not venture into unless it is in force. The population is so skewed toward the brainwashed liberals that almost no one owns a gun legally because they almost all belive that guns are the problem. Therefore only the criminals in Philadelphia have guns.

A few years ago they had a gun amnesty program where anyone could turn in a gun at a police station and get $50 with no questions. They had hundreds of old guns turned in (they were expecting thousands). No discernable effect was seen on the gun crime statistics.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

Philadelphia never had this k

Philadelphia never had this kind of problem when Frank Rizzo was mayor. While he was arguably one of the most corrupt mayors about, his corruption was limited to cronyism and financial gain (maybe). But along with this supposed corruption was an earnest love of his city, and a true law enforcement background (Rizzo served in most jobs in the Philadelphia police, from lowly patrolman to commissioner).

Rizzo took the inaccurately named Philadelphia Highway Patrol and turned it into an incredibly efficient violent crime task force. They had city-wide jurisdiction and could effectively respond to any call they wanted. But when high crime areas flared up, they were the first in and they took care of business. Although they looked like Gestapo (leather hats, jackets, motorcycle boots), they were professional law enforcement officers with a no-nonsense reputation. Simply put, no one messed with them.

Today's police force, through no fault of their own, does not have the authority nor the support for such enforcement activities. This is the fault of the city administration who are more concerned with stomping on their hankies over those bad guns than they are at actually funding the police to do their jobs.

But what else is new?

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

Oh Shoot... this is too rich.

Oh Shoot... this is too rich....

I do not mean to side-track from this, in a way I hope I am not.

...the spin never stops with the leftist msm and politico's....never.

I heard this morning on the FNC that the real reason Giuliani's crime-drop in NYC while he was Mayor wasn't because of him, it was because of the lead in paint...yes thats right...the lead in paint wasn't allowed to be used previous to him being Mayor therefore you had less violent crime/gun rates....

Can't help but wonder what candidate and group put that BS out against Giuliani....

...these people never ever stop...ever....Guns do not kill people folks....

People do...gang members, bad guys...all the laws are not going to help, except for the conceal to carry.

Lord I am glad I do not live in Philly...I would be gone.

Btw...talk about a corrupt city...so now the city is going to sue the state govt...

Good gawd.

bt: The lead paint thing does

bt: The lead paint thing doesn't make any sense at all. Once lead paint was banned, what would be the reason that a mayor would revoke the ban? Besides, I don't think this was a local issue. Lead abatement was ordered by the EPA beginning in the 1980's.

And according to EPA statistics, the rate of lead poisoning in children has dropped dramatically since 1978.

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria

Queen...I did not look real r

Queen...

I did not look real real hard for the link...Julie Kurtz I think it was that reported this early today...

The nuts and bolts of the story was the reduction of lead in the paint by the ban in the 80's was the reason that the little critters who ate the paint chips back then were the reason the crime rate was so high in NYC...then the critters who grew up after the ban were not as violent anymore hence by the time Giuliani was Mayor...his crack down on crime had nothing to do with his results...it was really the outcome of the ban on lead paint in the 80's with less violent kids by then....hence less violence during his time in office.

Did I explain that good enoguh or really make it worse?

LOL....no need to answer...going to look for a link.

Yeah. Thanks bt. That makes i

Yeah. Thanks bt. That makes it a bit clearer. You're right. Talk about spin!

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria

one night in philly

I spent one night in Philly, years ago, and it was very frightening. The cabbie dropped us off at the wrong hotel, late at night, and the doors were locked. A gang one block down saw us and began to run for us. I told my girlfriend to run, when another cab squeals to the curb and the driver yells to get in! He had watched the whole thing, sitting in an alley waiting for a call, wondering why the other driver would drop off a couple in that particular part of town. He refused to take fare to get us to our proper hotel, well lit and unlocked.

In all my years, this was the closest I ever came to urban crime. It would not have ended well if not for that last-minute cab driver.

If they want to relieve the city of crime, arm the populace and teach them proper gun control: clean weapon, keep sights properly adjusted, use high-quality ammo, and use two hands at all times.

Yes, those thugs in that li

Yes, those thugs in that liberal haven of Blue Philadelphia are only killing people because of those rural, rednecked, conservative bumpkins. The insanity of these people knows no bounds.

Gun control laws. That'll solve everyting. Gee...it's not like MURDER is illegal or anything.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

a. Philadelphia has not had a

a. Philadelphia has not had a Republican mayor since 1952.

b. Philadelphia has tried to go around PA state law by passing their own gun law.

c. PA. mobster, er, governor Fast Eddie Rendell was mayor of Philly for 8 years. He is doing his damndest to continue the fine work he's done in Philly by destroying the entire state of Pennsylvania.

e. Pennsylvania elected a corpse for a senator in 2006.

Yep, my state is rockin'!

On Philly and Phoenix

RtS - maybe that explains why Phoenix just passed Philadelphia in the population count to become America's fifth largest city. 

(I heard that the other day on Houston's 740AM/KTRH.) 

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

Unlike Philly, Arizona and

Unlike Philly, Arizona and Phoenix only require a permit for 'concealed carry'. 'Open Carry', a big iron on the hip requires nothing. Not alot of muggings in Phoenix. Burglary isn't a good occupation either, unless you target the immigre sheeple in Snottsdale.

Speaking of Rizzo I remember well the 6' gorrillas in black leather he called cops. I remember too, Richard J Daily telling the Chi-Town cops during riots, "Looters, shoot to maim. Arsonists, shoot to kill." I'm almost misty eyed.

First, kill all the lawyers.

-Wlm Shakespear

Brotherly Love...

Your post is dead on, but your list is hardly a Philly thing. Think about cities like Chicago, Detroit, DC, New York, LA, Baltimore, New Oreleans, Atlanta, & Minneapolis, high crime rates, decades of liberal demacratic city gov't. Weak on crime, affirmative action, crap schools, city officials who are corrupt to the core, bending over backwords to cowtow  to "community leaders", & local media schmucks who do nothing to hold them to account. Then people wonder why they get such bad gov't.

Then when people start moving out of the city because they see it's going down the crapper, & they really don't want their kids going to what passes for a school, they move to the suburbs. This used to be called "urban sprawl", but in an effort to cast aspersions on them, the "elites" have renamed this "white flight". So now you are a racist for moving away from cities that have gone bad due to decades of liberal demacratic rule.

"A goverment big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away"        Barry Goldwater

And most-importantly, laws

And most-importantly, laws against self defense which strangely-enough always produce these same results, and then the same excuses from politicians. And Barry Goldwater still rocks, IMO. :)
JMR

ABC Twit Factor: David Kerley

An open letter to David Kerley, since your comrades at ABC do skim this site:

Dear Dave,

I will keep this short as your report reveals you are not going to be at ABC very long in being so inept even liberals will cringe at what a twit you are.

The point is simple Dave, there are more guns in Pennsylvania than in Philadelphia as there has been since before statehood, and yet, the rest of the people of Pennsylvania are not shooting each other and behaving themselves.

The reason Philadelphia is a problem Dave is YOU. You voted for people who decided using welfare to buy black votes for power, destroying their families, destroying their communities, sending your bored liberal mummy and wifey out to work taking jobs which black men would have, using aborticide as a population doctrine dealing with the lack of morality you voted in, so that black people in Philly would have only careers in selling dope, selling their women and preying upon each other in theft was all they would have.

Dave, perhaps you now know why you won't last in the big leagues as your story points all of this out which every thinking person knows. I hope you enjoy working for WDUD tv in some 3rd rate Bob Byrd hillbilly county as you deserve it.

Have good one and God bless you Dave as you have peaked in ABC weekend propaganda for 4 minutes, man is life great or what for you.

With all due respect, LC

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Another inconvenient statistic.

Washington D.C., a city that is half the population of Phila., has a murder number that is even higher, and they've had a ban on handguns that has only just been overturned. Therefore Washington D.C's murder rate is at least twice that of Philly's and that is WITH a gun ban.

So lets break this down...A city with a near gun ban, because of it's over whelming liberal ideology has a very high murder rate. Another city with an actual gun ban, has an even higher murder rate.

And liberal ABC seems to think that the answer is more gun laws to keep guns out of the hands of regular citizens and allowing criminals to be the only ones with guns, except for the police.

Liberal logic: If A<B and B<C then A=2*B^2

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

When I heard the story as it

When I heard the story as it aired, I was thinking exactly the same thing, c5then.  I live in northern Virginia just across the Potomac from Washington DC, and so I've watched the violence and the alibis on the local evening news for 14 years.

District 'leaders' such as convicted felon and former mayor Marion Barry and numerous nefarious city councilmen have ranted for over a decade that the gun crime in DC is linked to the less restrictive gun laws in Virginia, yet they don't want to address the fact that the murder rates in DC are always higher than they are in Virginia.  Are Virginians driving into the District to murder each other?

The brothers and sisters are running this city

Hmmm, those 'rural sensibilities' must be causing massive killing fields in the woods of Pennsylvania. NOT.

It couldn't be that the black on black crime, caused by the ingrained belief (thanks to Jackson, Sharpton, Democrats et. al.) that all 'African Americans' are victims and are not responsible for their own actions (New Orleans anyone?).

Or could it be the pi$$ poor leadership in the city?

After all, the 'the brothers and sisters are running this city'.

D


I don't support our liberals or their mission.

Liberalism, not guns

Liberal policies have destroyed the family, leading to a breakdown in morality, and murders.

How about banning liberals? 

How about banning liberals?  FYI, OSHA is considering ruling small arms ammunition an explosive and forcing ammo to be handled as such.  No firearms could be stored in the same facility as the explosive, buildings containing the ammo would have to be evacuated during electrical storms, shipping ammo would have the same rules and COST as TNT, etc.  Public debate on this ruling ends July 12, see OSHA - 2007 - 0032 on their website to voice your opinion.

Isn't OSHA part of the exec

Isn't OSHA part of the executive branch, which is allegedly in NRA-friendly hands? And why has the "powerful" NRA been almost-silent on this very dangerous bigger-government trial balloon WE WILL SEE AGAIN even if we defeat it?? Why, it's almost as if the news media should have been covering the entire self-defense movement all along, instead of being anti-gun bigoted & lazy as usual and pretending that those they oppose ideologically are somehow monolithic. (Hmmm. I just attacked antigun-Republicans, the NRA, and the news media in one post -- good start for today!)
JMR

And today's Hit and Run pro

And today's Hit and Run provides an excellent example. I mean, Pink Pistols could not POSSIBLY be a pro-gun group, right??!? It's the invasion of the killer lesbo-gangs, run for your lives!!! Sheesh. And people still wonder why I constantly-mock O'Reilly...
JMR

The Left creates the root of

The Left creates the root of the problem by kicking God out of the schools and then has to try to solve the problem by creating more and more laws. You see when the left kicked God out of the schools in the early 60’s, violent crimes, divorce and teen pregnancy started to clime.  Now they fight for gun control, sex offender laws, and abortion etc. They want to solve the problems they created by their own strength. If they REALLY want to solve the problem with gun violence, the heart of mankind has to change. You can’t change the heart of man with secular humanism, education or laws. They’ll have to allow God back into society in order to really solve society’s ills. And they’ll fight that tooth and nail.

On Engel v Vitale

I very seriously doubt that much rot can be placed on Engel v. Vitale. 

I have zero issue with those who believe in and worship God in whatever fashion they choose.  But the place to teach your kids belief in God is HOME.  Besides, do you REALLY want a bunch of atheistic teachers teaching your children about God anyway???

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