NBC Uniquely Reports Liberal Ruling Overturned, Olbermann Continues Impeachment Talk

By Brad Wilmouth | July 7, 2007 - 23:09 ET

Among Friday's broadcast evening newscasts, NBC Nightly News uniquely reported a federal appeals court ruling, tagged by anchor Lester Holt as a "victory for the Bush administration," regarding the controversial NSA spying program that involves warrantless monitoring of international phone calls when one participant is a terrorist suspect. Friday's court action overruled an August 2006 court decision against the program by a liberal judge appointed by President Carter.

As documented by the MRC's Rich Noyes, all three broadcast evening newscasts had trumpeted the earlier ruling against the administration on August 17 of last year. ABC's Charles Gibson had labeled it a "major legal defeat" while ABC's Martha Raddatz had called it a "significant blow" to the administration. But neither ABC's World News with Charles Gibson nor the CBS Evening News mentioned Friday's ruling. But even on NBC, while Holt read news of the ruling, the words "Domestic Spying" appeared on screen, thus not conveying to the audience the international nature of the calls. Those words had similarly appeared during the NBC Nightly News coverage of the August 17 ruling. (Transcripts follow)

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann also ignored Friday's ruling on his Countdown show, while last August he had trumpeted that day's anti-Bush court decision by interviewing liberal law professor Jonathan Turley, who maintained that Bush "could well have committed a federal crime not once, but 30 times." Olbermann had called the August ruling a "judicial smackdown" and a "stunning ruling" against the program, and had repeatedly referred to the NSA program as monitoring "our" phone calls or "our" emails. But in light of Friday's ruling that did not go the MSNBC host's way, there was silence on the issue.

But the Countdown host did introduce Friday's show relaying comments by former Reagan administration NSA director William Odom about the possibility of impeaching President Bush. Olbermann: "The top National Security officer from the Reagan administration insisting that the only way to protect the troops in Iraq is to get the Bush administration to bring them home, and the only way to do that may be to threaten the President directly with impeachment."

Below is a complete transcript of the NBC Nightly News Friday July 6 coverage of the day's court ruling, followed by Olbermann's comments about impeaching Bush from the Friday July 6 Countdown show:

From the Friday July 6 NBC Nightly News:

LESTER HOLT: A victory for the Bush administration today in the ongoing dispute over its warrantless wiretapping program. A federal appeals court dismissed a lawsuit challenging the program, saying the plaintiffs, which included the American Civil Liberties Union, had no standing to sue. The decision overturned a lower court ruling that the program violated privacy and free speech rights. The appeals court ruled 2 to 1 that the plaintiffs couldn't prove they were spied upon.

From the Friday July 6 Countdown:

KEITH OLBERMANN, in opening teaser: The Odom plan: The director of the National Security Agency, the NSA, under Ronald Reagan, General William Odom, says the best way to support the troops in Iraq is to get them home from Iraq, and that the administration is so out of control, that the only way to make that happen is to threaten the President with impeachment if he does not agree.
...

OLBERMANN: Good evening from New York. It has been thus on every sinking ship from Titanic to the SS Minnow of Gilligan's Island. A few far-thinking visionaries try to get off first to get others to leave with them, then others begin to file off one by one, and after them, the deluge. And so it is for the Bush administration's policy in Iraq. Our fifth story on the Countdown, conservative Republican Senator Pete Domenici yesterday, conservative Republican Congressman John Doolittle today. Hope you can swim, boys. This while the top National Security officer from the Reagan administration insisting that the only way to protect the troops in Iraq is to get the Bush administration to bring them home, and the only way to do that may be to threaten the President directly with impeachment. The Commander-in-Chief having now supported the troops to a death toll of 3,592 with no end in sight. Conservative Congressman Doolittle of California, one-time Mormon missionary, today joining the others in his party in questioning whether the conflict is worth the loss of any more American lives. His remarks, though, making the Congressman sound less like a great humanitarian or patriot, and rather more like a huge xenophobe. "I am increasingly convinced," said Mr. Doolittle, "that we are never going to succeed in actually ending people dying in Iraq. I think it's going to be a constant conflict ... and if that is going to happen ... it needs to be the Iraqis dying and not the Americans."

OLBERMANN: The White House saying today it views any sort of precipitous withdrawal from Iraq as dangerous, the Pentagon that leaving early would leave that country a mess, but Lieutenant General William Odom, the director of National Security for President Reagan, the Bush administration says that, he says that the Bush administration, rather, should no longer be allowed to determine the vocabulary for the debate. General Odom's contention that supporting the troops actually means bringing them home, and now. Mr. Odom pointing out that Congress clearly and indisputably has two powers over the executive: the power of the purse and power to impeach. Should the first option fail, Mr. Odom saying lawmakers should not be afraid to threaten the second, having ample justification to do so. "An attempt to extort Congress into providing funds by keeping U.S. forces in peril ... surely would constitute the 'high crime' of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his," the President's, "own personal interest."
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OLBERMANN, beginning an interview with Retired General Wesley Clark: That plan that has been put forth by General Odom, would the main obstacle to that plan seem to be lawmakers in Congress having the guts to execute it?

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Keef gets it wrong right away

Keef gets it wrong right away...the SS Minnow never sank, but washed ashore on Gilligan's Island, which in reality was 2 separate islands-the beach shown in the pilot episode and then later in the series opening credits is on the Hawaiian island of Kauai, more specifically Mooloa Bay up by Princeville.

The island shown at the end of each episode is "Coconut Island" in Kaneohe Bay on Oahu, which the show's makers cleaned up with special effects to make it look like it was an unpopulated isle in the middle of the ocean, not just offshore from the most populated island in the 50th state.

Some Facts...

Aloha Kakahi aka.  

Anyway, don't let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Never argue with an idiot.  They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Olbermann

Nice Catch, Del!

The funny part:  Gilligan's Island has been in syndication constantly, so most American school kids know the theme song by heart.

Keith:  Are you dumber than a 5th grader?

Forget Olbermann. I doubt he

Forget Olbermann. I doubt he grasps anything other than “Reagan guy for impeachment.” If you want an interesting discussion, read General Odom’s original op-ed. Although I disagree with him, Odom isn’t a wild-eyed dope. His argument boils down to the idea that our military wasn’t prepared, and isn’t suited, to fight the kind of war we’re fighting now. The military is suffering from the stress.

With that, I agree. However …

The military would love to stay within the Powell Doctrine. They want clarity, a mandate to use overwhelming force, a clear exit strategy, and public support before they commit to a mission. After Vietnam, that was a great principle -- while it lasted. But September 11 showed us that the Powell Doctrine is a luxury we can’t afford. As the only superpower, no state could challenge our nuclear or conventional military. So guess what? The terrorists adjusted. They used the Powell Doctrine as the blueprint of how to defeat us. We told them how we would fight, and they said thanks for the information, we’ll attack in a different way. Our enemies didn’t attack our strength. They bypassed out nuclear and conventional military, and they attacked us with box-cutters. They learned to sidestep our overwhelming force. They learned to prolong our need to stay there. Worst of all, they learned to use our media to drain public support.

Now General Odom declares that we’ve lost this war because we can’t apply the Powell Doctrine to it. Odom doesn’t understand that the Powell Doctrine is the problem in the first place. His decision to surrender in Iraq and rebuild a stronger conventional army would be exactly the wrong response. He wants to reinforce the Powell Doctrine, when the situation clearly calls to abandon it.

Generals love to think the world behaves like a football game. You run a play, and then you can huddle up. If that isn’t enough, you can call timeout, talk it over with coaches on the sideline, and up in the booth. Generals like that, because they can issue a lot of orders, and generals like to control things. That’s how war used to be. But a terrorist war isn’t like a football game. There ain’t no huddle. It’s more like a basketball game with no timeouts and no substitutions. You have to dribble, pass, set screens, set picks, until you get an open shot for a brief second or so, and even then you only shoot 50%. And if it’s the fourth quarter, and the players on the floor are tired, there’s nothing you can do it about it.

It ain't football no more.

Gah I'm tired of people say

Gah I'm tired of people saying box cutters! Only one or two of the hijackers actually used box cutters. They mainly used knives! Has anyone besides me read the 9/11 Commission Report? =P

Besides that, I agree with your statement KC.

Have you evre used a box cutt

Have you evre used a box cutter, as I can attest they are leathal weapons.  The are just razor blades in a holder.  They can slice open your precious flesh very easily and with little resistance. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

General Powell was correct th

General Powell was correct that we needed to use overwhelming force.

While it was understandable that we did not do so with the initial invasion of Iraq because it went so well, the Bush admin has yet to articulate why it did not bring in such force when it became clear further down the road that it was needed.

dahliaT:I wouldn't be surpris

dahliaT:

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that part of the reason was the MSM and the libs screaming that we were being perceived as 'occupiers' in world opinion, and therefore, Bush may have unfortunately kept the forces at a minimum.

But then again, maybe it was because we never fought an enemy like this one.

I'm sorry, we require all women to wear burqa's - - Gatekeeper at Islamofascist heaven disappointing another female suicide bomber

You forget. A certain Presi

You forget. A certain President who is now being repeately called "an isolationist" not only fought this same enemy with the US Marines. He defeated 'em on the shores of Tripoli.
JMR

Sarc: Are you talking about t

Sarc: Are you talking about the Islamofascist pirates of the 1800's?

You mean before political correctness and Harry Reid and the libs actively working for America's defeat along with the MSM?

Is that what you're talking about?

Well, political correctness

Well, political correctness & bipartisan malfeasance among other things, but this thread is what I was specifically referencing. And yes, those pirates seem to me -- as an amateur historian -- like the enemy we're fighting today.
JMR

How are the pirates of 1800

How are the pirates of 1800 like the Islamofascists of 2007?

during the first period (1518

during the first period (1518‑1587) the beylerbeys were admirals of the sultan, commanding great fleets and conducting serious operations of war for political ends

“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”   -Chief Justice John Roberts 

I gotta go do fun things, b

I gotta go do fun things, but briefly, things like operating hyper-brutally under no national flag make the pirates of America's past seem much like today's enemy to me. Using your own question in google resulted in finding a link among the top hits, whose text I recall being posted here too (but NB's search function stinks, so I didn't even try it!). Obviously, our enemy back then -- like us back then -- had access to much less dangerous weapon/etc. technology, but that does not diminish the philosophical and worldview similarity to our past enemy, and as the writer in the link notes and I agree, we should not ignore history...
JMR

The link you provide is a quo

The link you provide is a quote from another post, something which I am always  suspicious of since editing can occur.  I like to read the original if possible.  The original post, as far as I can tell, is from http://www.usvetdsp.com/jan07/jeff_quran.htm and is written by a non-journalist and Vietnam veteran who has distinguished himself as a supporter of veterans/POW's/MIA's.

I have read several historical accounts of the piracy era, as much as a cursory reading of the internet can be entrusted, and think the article you link gives credibility to your position.

I also like that Thomas Jefferson said "Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute" and then proceeded to make good upon his words by stopping the blackmail payments to the Arabs and then fighting them where they operated and were supported.

Sounds like President George Bush today.

Once we got rid of Saddam, un

Once we got rid of Saddam, under international law, it became our responsibility to provide security until a new government took over. That's what the "you break it you own it" Pottery Barn rule was all about. Unfortunately, securing a country is a much different skill than overthrowing a regime. Our military is capable of overwhelming almost any military, but postwar security requires different skills. A soldier is not a cop. Every diplomat told us that the Iraqis would resent a large military presence. We needed local cooperation, and we wouldn't get it if we overwhelmed the place. After all, we didn't overwhelm Afghanistan, and that was a key factor in our original success there. When you attack the country, you need overwhelming force, but in the postwar aftermath, it makes more sense to keep the numbers at a minimum. Iraq is a place where we miscalculated the minimum, but it would still be a mistake to overwhelm it.

That's why I'm so frustrated with how the Democrats, the media, and the nervous RINOs are undercutting the surge. To my way of thinking, the surge is the perfect response to fighting a new war in a new way. Petraeus’ plan shows the flexibility on the move that we need. But just when we’re evolving our strategy, the liberals want to quit. Basically, they want war to live up to their expectations. Liberals want spectacular victories and battlefields, and they're angry that this war is about patience and endurance.

BLOBERMAN

BLOBERMAN has trouble telling the truth.   His day will come.

Not too soon for me,

Not too soon for me,

I Second that gc.

I Second that gc.

I hope you rotate who watches

I hope you rotate who watches KO. Belongs on the show "Dirtiest Jobs"

Bush should be impeached for all of his crimes

Olbermann might very well like to hear himself talk and bloviate about how bad Bush is but that doesn't mean Bush and Cheney should not be impeached.

They lied us into this war. Admittedly every Senator should have read the classified National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq and only a handful actually did. All those senators should resign and be voted out in their next election.

But it was the executive branch who pressured the CIA to write the dishonest summary of the NIE which was not classified and whose contents were used to sell the war to the populace.

Our leaders lied to all of us and now hundreds of thousands of people are dead because of it. They launched a war with ZERO physical real proof that Iraq was making or had WMD.

The domestic spying program, and yes it is domestic as well, read up on the NSA installations that were built in AT&T backbone centers throughout the country to monitor voice and data traffic.

This is a violation of the law and the Bush administration made it happen. Bush and Cheney are as corrupt as they come.

I don't understand why Republicans continue to support a President who has zero honor or integrity. It seems to me it is merely because he is a Republican President. That to me is just pathetic.

-----  yawn -----wake me whe

-----  yawn -----

wake me when you get your own brain 

Oh goody bot....Two trolls st

Oh goody bot....

Two trolls strollin' the site on a beautiful AGW Sunday afternoon....

All have their talking points too...just love the same ol' same ol'.....

LOL....

that reminds me; i need to re

that reminds me; i need to re-order the Neville Chamberland for president buttons that i hand out to these idiots.  It does make their day to get them.

Bot......LOL...Gonna' have to

Bot...

...LOL...

Gonna' have to get me some of those too it seems....

their favorites are the Nevil

their favorites are the Neville beanies with the propellers on top 

LMAO...Those propellers are 

LMAO...

Those propellers are wrapped with tin-foil aren't they?

lol

lol

All these kooks calling for i

All these kooks calling for impeachment clearly don't understand that the President has done nothing that would warrant impeachment.  That is why it will never happen.  It is the same empty cry as Bush lied, to which my response is really? lied about what?  No liberal I have ever asked can provide me with a lie.

Also, it is not domestic spying as the previus poster somehow imagines.  In his mind a flight from New York to Paris would be a domestic flight.

Huh?  Is this guy for real?*

Huh?  Is this guy for real?

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Alright, here we go again. Na

Alright, here we go again. Name ONE, just one, lie that got us into this war rfrancis. Show me one documented statement that was an out and out lie. Just one. I'll wait.

As for the Senators who should have read the NIE (it was actually a SNIE, but we won't harp on that), I agree. And show me any ongoing NIE or SNIE that isn't classified. That is probably the most ridiculous statement in your entire little tirade. And you'll notice (or maybe you won't), not reading the intelligence estimate didn't stop them from their inflammatory statements justifying the need for military action against Iraq.

And why aren't you mentioning their 180 degree about face on the issue? If  they were too lazy and/or too stupid to make their decision based on the facts, they should be impeached. And if they were so bovine that this intensly disliked president could lead them by the nose into war, then again, they should be impeached.

As for evidence that Iraq had or was making WMDs, are you really that naive? Iraq friggin USED WMDs against both Iran and the Kurds. We captured and destroyed enormous stockpiles of chemical weapons after Desert Storm. The UN inspection teams were given 12 years of runaround while trying to inspect for said weapons. Enough is enough. If you can't use your gray matter, you should donate to science it as hardly used...

No, the "domestic" spying had nothing "domestic" about it. It wasn't spying, and it wasn't domestic. It was flagged international calls, monitored by computer unless key words were detected. Then it was reviewed as an item of interest. What does the location of NSA installations have to do with whether the calls were domestic or international? And if this was such a clear violation of law, then Bush would have already been impeached. This is a tired old liberal party line that should have been given a decent burial years ago.

Finally, why don't you mention the Democrats so full of corruption they can't even turn right anymore, yet still get reelected and canonized by brain dead constituents. How about saying something negative about Dems like Pelosi, Murtha, Jefferson, both Clintons, Kennedy, and the list goes on. Let's just ignore the blatant hypocrisy and focus on the BDS, shall we?

If you want to see pathetic, re-read your post and apply a modicum of rational, impartial, and dispationate thought to what you said here.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

Saddam had WMD. We know th

Saddam had WMD. We know this beacuse he used it.

  1. Chemical weapons used against Iran: BBC - Chemical weapons: Blister agents
  2. Chemical weapons used against Kurds: BBC - Iraqi Kurds recall chemical attack
  3. Chemical weapons used against Sunnis: Human Rights Watch - The Iraqi Government Assault on the Marsh Arabs

Saddam had WMD. We know this beacuse we found more, as well as evidence of other things he wasn't supposed to have

  1. Anthrax: CNN - Laurie Mylroie: Is Iraq involved with U.S. terror attacks?
  2. Chemical Weapons: Foxnews - Report: Hundreds of WMDs Found in Iraq
  3. Chemical Weapons: DoD - Munitions Found in Iraq Meet WMD Criteria, Official Says
  4. Cyanide: Free Republic - Request For 500 KG Of SODIUM CYANIDE A Precursor For A Chemical Weapon (Translation)
  5. Mobile Chem Labs: CNN - U.S.: Mobile labs found in Iraq
  6. Mobile Chem Labs: CNN - Second suspected mobile weapons lab found in Iraq
  7. Mobile Chem Labs: Free Republic - Plan To Produce Mobile Laboratories (Translation)
  8. Mustard Gas, Sarin, and Tabun: United NationsUnresolved Disarmament Issues
  9. Mustard Gas, Sarin, and Tabun: Free Republic - 2003 UN Report: Iraq Sulfur Mustard Gas Chemical Weapons Have High Quality After 12 years of Storage
  10. Mustard Gas, and Sarin: Foxnews - Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
  11. Mustard Gas, and Sarin: CNN - Gas shell findings a concern for Iraq arms inspector
  12. Nuclear Bomb: CNN - Defector: Iraq could have nukes by 2005
  13. NEW! Nuclear Bomb: Daily Telegraph - UN inspectors uncover proof of Saddam's nuclear bomb plans
  14. NEW! Nuclear Bomb: National Review - Shocker: New York Times Confirms Iraqi Nuclear Weapons Program
  15. Nuclear Bomb: New York TimesSaddam was one year away from building nuclear bomb
  16. Nuclear Bomb: Free Republic - Saddam Met with his Nuclear Group in 2002 (Translation)
  17. Nuclear Bomb: Free Republic - Secret Nuclear Project (Translation)
  18. Nuclear Bomb: MSNBC - Interview with a Bombmaker: Saddam Hussein’s former atomic-bomb developer says Iraq is on course to gain ‘full nuclear status’
  19. Radiation Device: Free Republic - Highly Radioactive Atomic Neutron Device (Translation)
  20. Sarin: MSNBC - Bomb said to hold deadly sarin gas explodes in Iraq
  21. Sarin: CBS News - Iraq Sarin Find Worries U.S.
  22. Unexamined Bunkers: NY Sun - Ex-Officer Spurned on WMD Claim
  23. Uranium: Newsmax - The Uranium Joe Wilson Didn't Mention
  24. Uranium: Newsmax - Tapes: Saddam Hussein Had Secret Uranium Enrichment Program
  25. Uranium: Free Republic - Procurement of 50000 Aluminum Tubes That Can Be Used For URANIUM ENRICHMENT.
  26. Uranium: Washington Post - U.S. Faulted for Leaving Tons of Uranium in Iraq
  27. Uranium: USA Today - U.S. transferred uranium from Iraq without U.N. authorization
  28. Various WMD: WorldNet Daily - Saddam's WMD have been found
  29. Various WMD: CIA - DCI Special Advisor Report on Iraq's WMD
  30. WMD moved out of Iraq: MSNBC - Officials: Terrorist attacks in Jordan averted
  31. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - New evidence: Saddam's WMD in Lebanon
  32. WMD moved out of Iraq: NY Sun - Iraq's WMD Secreted in Syria, Sada Says
  33. WMD moved out of Iraq: The Sunday Telegraph - Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief
  34. WMD moved out of Iraq: Newsmax - Iraqi General: Syria Gave Al-Qaida Saddam's WMDs WMD hidden in Syria
  35. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - Surprise, surprise! Saddam had WMDs after all
  36. WMD moved out of Iraq: WorldNet Daily - Saddam general: WMDs in Syria
  37. WMD moved out of Iraq: Free Republic - Document: Iraqi Dissident Talks About WMD Moved to Syria (Translation)
  38. Chemical Material: Free Republic - Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)
  39. Chemical Platoon: Free Republic - Saddam Regime Document Dated 2001 Shows Chemical Platoon Still Exists And Active (Translation)
  40. Chemical Suits/Gear: CNN - UK: Chemical suits found in Iraq
  41. Chemical Suits/Gear: Free Republic - Chemical Gear for The Chemical Group (Translation)
  42. MiGs, a banned weapon: BBC - Iraqi aircraft 'buried in desert'
  43. Missiles, a banned weapon: Foxnews - U.S. Army Finds Buried Ammunition Cache in Iraq
  44. Missles, a banned weapon: Slate - This Was Not Looting