Live Earth Hypocrisy: Selling Meat at Concerts to Save the Environment

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Most right-thinking people that have been following the goings on of soon-to-be-Dr. Al Gore and his sycophant devotees have been having a lot of fun pointing out the hypocrisies in the upcoming Live Earth concerts.

Even better than this being accomplised by conservatives, a truly delicious irony has been identified by the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals concerning vendors selling hamburgers and hot dogs at the event.

As reported by Britain’s Life Style Extra (emphasis added throughout, strap on your seatbelts!):

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Peta said that selling meat at a concert for the environment would be like selling cigarettes at an anti-cancer fundraiser because of the amount of greenhouse gas emitted by the meat farming industry.

And Peta activists said that Wembley should take meat off the menu after a recent UN report found that the meat industry creates more greenhouse gases than all the cars, trucks, ships and planes in the world combined.

Absolutely fabulous. And, in reality, if the UN was seriously concerned about anthropogenic global warming, wouldn’t they themselves remove meat from their cafeterias, and require all employees on the payroll – including IPCC scientists – to immediately become vegetarian?

Doubtful, yes? Of course, since nothing the UN does is about saving the planet unless it can destroy western capitalism, the obvious hypocrisy seems almost irrelevant.

Regardless, the article continued:

However, Peta campaigner Yvonne Taylor said that it would be "hypocritical" if the damage caused by the industry was overlooked at the concert, and said that the group had written to the managing director of Wembley Stadium, Alex Horne, urging him not to sell meat at the event.

She said: "There's no such thing as a meat eating environmentalist.

Yet, the best punch line came from a letter sent by PETA to the concert coordinators:

"Researchers at the University of Chicago have determined that switching to a vegan diet is more effective in countering global warming than switching from a standard American car to a Toyota Prius.”

Somehow it seems a metaphysical certitude that no media members will be pointing out this excruciatingly delicious hypocrisy as they fawn over these concerts and the Global Warmingist-in-Chief.

I just hope that Toyota is one of the sponsors...how 'bout you?

—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.


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Have any of these lunatics st

Have any of these lunatics stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, things like CO2 and other by-products of living, are natural?  That just because we've so sanitized our lives that things don't smell any more, that it's now the new natural to be anything but au natural?

It's just sad. Or will be when this homicidal rage subsides...

"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war"  - Shakespeare

Ha  vin  g  tro  u  ble

Ha  vin  g  tro  u  ble    n ot   li  kin   g    to   a  na  ke d   r  osi  dude   pic !!!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Live Earth isn't one iota abo

Live Earth isn't one iota about saving the earth and controlling the climate. It is all about making money. Lining Al Gore's pockets. Nothing more, nothing less. The mark-up on hotdogs and hamburgers (bottled water, soda, beer, etc, etc, etc.) for this event is going to be a huge money maker, not to mention the merchandising with CDs, stickers, T-shirts. The almighty dollar.

Anyone that can think should be able to understand that a huge rock concert (or 8 of them) is about as environmentally unfriendly as you can get. Massive amounts of electricity, fuel spent to get there (artists as well as attendees), litter, torn up lawns (if held in open fields), fuel/electricity to cook/cool food served there, etc. The whole idea of a rock concert to raise environmental/anthropogenic global warming awareness is full of hypocrisy!

This is all about money!!!

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Rock concert?

Rock concert?  I don't think so.  Nothing on thath bill qualifies as rock.  I know what Rock music is ,and today's whiney, pop GARBAGE is not Rock.  No offense to you, Mean Gene.  I'm sure you were just calling it what it's been labeled.  If this were a true 'for climate crisis' concert, NONE of these suck bag blow hards would be making a dime.  Of course, we are talking about 'liberals'.

I use the term loosely to ref

I use the term loosely to refer to any very large concert...rock music set the pattern. More like a circus of freaks in the case of Live Earth.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Isn't it true that cow "

Isn't it true that cow "flatus" is also a major contributor to methane emissions (another evil greenhouse gas).  Shouldn't eating meat be encouraged to remove those gassy cows? 

Do you know how gassy vegans

Do you know how gassy vegans are?

I had to move my desk down the hall from the one I work with.  She has to put out as much as a yearling.

No Soup For You

Now is that b/c she's a vegan

Now is that b/c she's a vegan or because she's gross.

I knew some Vegans in college and they smelled but I think it had more to do with their nasty dreadlocks, unshaved legs, and furry armpits than their diet.

As a side note, I look at vegans in a similar light as the gays.  They don't interfere with my life and by not indulging in the things that i love (women & meat) they leave more for me.  Thanks!

Try an all granola and mushro

Try an all granola and mushroom diet for a few days,  All I'm saying is duct tape the sheets to the bed so you don't have to keep getting up to fetch them.

No Soup For You

Mmmm that sounds delicious.Da

Mmmm that sounds delicious.

David Spade plays a great veagan in this movie my buddy made me watch this past weekend called Grandma's Boy.  I thought it was going to be corny, but it had it's moments.

Spade as a veagan waiter called Shiloh was priceless.  If you dislike whiney new age weirdos, this scene is for you.

I collect and trade new age w

I collect and trade new age whiney weirdos with my friends

I'll trade you a Margaret Cho

I'll trade you a Margaret Cho for an Alicia Silverstone.

I'll trade you Stephanie Tubb

I'll trade you Stephanie Tubbs-Jones for Susan Sarandon.

I'll even throw in Denis Kucinich and Govenor Strickland to sweeten the pot.

Hell, you can have all the D's for Mz. Sarandon.

Mz. Sarandon is a two card se

Mz. Sarandon is a two card set.  Her eyes are that far apart, with nothing in between.

She has eyes?Seriously, sort

She has eyes?

Seriously, sort of, for a moment, her husband is one of the jokers.

Dennis K is a two card set al

Dennis K is a two card set also - Mrs. K goes with him everywhere as his human teleprompter.

I think the Mrs. has a bigger

I think the Mrs. has a bigger hand in Dennis' affairs than we might suspect, kind of like Jim Henson with Kermit the Frog, if you catch my drift.

You owe me a new box of kle

You owe me a new box of kleenex (used to clean monitor and keyboard).

Nice comment!

Kahuna

You have been given the choice between war and dishonor. You have chosen dishonor, and you will have both.

--Winston Churchill to Neville Chamberlain

And one more thing...

Semperright,

And they act like their vegetarianism is a religion! 

If it's such a freakin' healthy lifestyle, then why did Linda McCartney die of cancer? She and Paul supposedly never touched meat.

But I am proud to say that I am a card carrying member of PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals.

Pass the KFC bucket, please!

"Yeah, that's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan

You just gave me a terrific

You just gave me a terrific idea for a new all-you-can eat restaurant - The Flatulant Cow. Meat products only - no salad bar. Maybe a steak and baked potato bar?

Where is it located?

MB241,

That's not too far from the Roadkill Cafe', right?

"Yeah, that's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan

So we are supposed to stop ea

So we are supposed to stop eating meat and start eating Toyota priuses,  Can anyone suggest a good wine?

No Soup For You

I think the '92 Valvoline SAE

I think the '92 Valvoline SAE 90 was a good year...it has lots of body and no fruitiness to it.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Good choice MG  It would hig

Good choice MG

 It would highlight the differences in the average prius driver which has no body and plenty of fruityness.

I agree...it would make the p

I agree...it would make the perfect balance. LOL!

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

I actually preferred the '97

I actually preferred the '97 Pennzoil 5W-30...a little lighter and not as heavy as the Valvoline 90W (thick gear oil).

I'd be kind of prone to a n

I'd be kind of prone to a newer Mobile 1. I know, I know, it's synthetic, but if you mix it ever so slightly with STP, it cuts the bitterness and makes it go down smoother.

Most of that other stuff gives me heartburn.

Semper

Good to see you again, Semperright.  *Salutes*

It seems the old crowd is coming back.  I see RJ around too. 

I have been in Canada working

I have been in Canada working for a while,

It is good to be back, Thanks

Hi Spiff

Hi Spiff.   Been in and out recently.  How ya doin'?

Other issues they must deal w

Other issues they must deal with:

The guitars must be banned  - they are plastic and made from petro-chemicals

The lights must be off - obviously

The t.v. signal to the satellite must be shut off - - -The satellite and its launching into space used an enormous amount of energy

All metal products must be banned - the energy used for mining issue.

The concert should have nothing more than Al Gore naked, alone in an open field, shouting.

Here I come to save the daaaay!  - - -Al Gore singing the Mighty Mouse song

Mica,How is that different to

Mica,

How is that different to any of AL's other days?

Semperright:Some days he's in

Semperright:

Some days he's in the basement of his mansion.

You know, the room that's set up as the Oval Office.

 . . .and here is a photo of me as president of America leading the snakes out of Ireland. I invented snakes, you know. - - - Al showing off his photo-shop efforts

Where ever he is I assume the

Where ever he is I assume there is a lot of screaming and lonelyness,

The hunt for manbearpig is a solo journey

You guys, today is the most I

You guys, today is the most I've ever laughed while on NB's.  Great, great stuff.

And there is no question in my mind that Al Gore has a mock oval office setup in his basement.  I can just see it...

"Okay Tipper honey, now you're playing Monica, and I'm gonna be Bill again.  You start upstairs with the pizzas, you come down, knock on the door, and say, 'Here are you pizzas, Mr. President.  Are there any other jobs I can perform for you today?'  Then I wink at the camera, and you go to work.  Got it?"

But, just as soon as tipper gets down to (Al's) business, little Gore v.3.0 walks into the bunker and catches them in the act...

"Oh god!!  Mom, dad?!?!?  What's going on??"

Big Al...

"Didn't I tell you to never, ever come into my office when the red light is on?!?!  Didn't I?!?!  Now get out of here!!!"

Then little Gore v.3.0 runs up to Big Al's bedroom, raids his dresser drawer, and becomes addicted to xanax, aderall, vicodin, and marijuana just to cope with the PTSS. 

When you think about the amou

When you think about the amount of bull any attendee of these concerts will be subjected to already is it really necessary to offer any additional meat choices?

Noel:Rather than worry about

Noel:

Rather than worry about meat at the Live Earth concerts, my suggestion is that the few remaining deniers climb aboard a bus (a short bus ought to do) and head to Phoenix or Las Vegas where you can cook your burgers on the sidewalk in 125 degree heat.  You can take your time in getting there because there is no end in sight to the current, unprecidented heat wave.  Then, head on down to Texas and wash your burgers down with some of their endless floodwaters.  Again, no rush.  Severe flooding is expected to continue unabated for the foreseeable future. 

If you are feeling international, take a trip to India where you can help put to rest the hundreds of people who have been killed in a "worst in 25 years” monsoon season there.  http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jul2007/2007-07-05-02.asp  They don’t eat beef in India though, so have your delicious barbeque before you go.

Later this summer, why not equip the bus with radar and do a little tornado chasing across the Midwest?  There ought to be hundreds of tornados to choose from.  Be careful though.  If our short bus deniers get swept up by a tornado, there would be no one left to protect the interests of the rest of us!

:)  Dave High

Since when id adverse weather

Since when is adverse weather new?  Are you that young, or sheltered, or public-schooled?

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

vrwc...???

vrwc, did you really expect a libtard to make a coherent post?

  • Where is the evidence that there is a cause to weather anomalies
  • If global warming exists, where is the evidence that it causes weather anomalies
  • If global warming exists, where is the evidence that man can diminish it

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

Weather has been around since

Weather has been around since Creation.  The kind we are experiencing now is nothing new.  Naw, post is as expected, just more fodder for us to exhibit the opposite of their new "god's" philosophy below...

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

You missed it we did that all

You missed it we did that all last year when we ventured off to Florida where, because of Globull warming, we had to endure one of the worst hurricane seasons ever forcast....whooops, wait a minute I believe there were no disasterous hurricanes last year.  

maybe I meant this year???  wait, how many have hit land this year?  How many named storms have we had?

Breaking News:Sun blamed fo

Breaking News: (at least to you dimwit)

Sun blamed for Warming of Earth and other worlds.

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

100+ degrees in Phoenix in Ju

100+ degrees in Phoenix in July???.....UNPRECEDENTED

Rains and flooding in Texas....UNPRECEDENTED

Typhoons in India....UNPRECEDENTED

BTW...if these are the worst typhoons in 25 years that would indicate that there were seasons that were worse prior to that.  How could that be if Globull warming is all man's fault and the industrial revolution would have been 25 years younger then.  Seems to me to be a cycle of weather activity and just maybe a natural cycle of activity at that.

Not to mention the fact that

Not to mention the fact that the computer models used to "prove" AGW, also indicate there would be fewer extremes and fluctiations in the weather as things warm up -meaning fewer typhoons/hurricanes, not more. But then that's the problems with the techniques used for modeling, they tend to either "blow up" or converge on a point where everything is an "average" and there is no variability (there can be no "butterfly effect").

So Dave "I'm just like A

So Dave "I'm just like Al's son because I'm" High,

Are you going to vote for Gore when he runs? It will be oh so satisfying to see him get CRUSHED in the election, and then watch you totally freak out when it happens.

Oh, and by the way...

If AGW is real, and the 'estimates' for our impending doom are even remotely accurate, explain to me how, with a global population that is growing exponentially, and with the doubling time for global oil consumption being about 8 years, just exactly how the world is supposed to reduce carbon emissions by any significant factor?  Seems kinda like the end of the advancement of civilizations as we know it.  But, since you're so 'high', I'm sure you'll stay dry from all of the flood waters, you moronic, bleating lemming.  Go find your shepherd and lick his feet..."the flood is coming, and the sky is falling!!!  Get your carbon credits here!!!" 

Gosh, maybe I was wrong.  Ma

Gosh, maybe I was wrong.  Maybe ya'll will need a full-size bus.  Be sure to get one with good air conditioning, though.

Chuckles, Dave High

Speaking of buses look at all

Speaking of buses look at all the "blue areas" that will need to be evacuated when the waters rise!

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

This explains everything!  C

This explains everything!  Conservatives are praying for global warming because it will flood all of the blue states, giving conservatives one dying gasp of hope to maintain power in the government!  Ya’ll see global warming as the antidote to George Bush.  Without the blue states, you may actually win in 2008!  Don’t get your hopes up, though.  There is still the law of unintended consequences; we blue-staters will simply move inland with you guys.  We will inundate your schools, your barber shops, yes even your burger barns.  Can you learn to love tofu burgers?  I am betting you can!

Putting P.E.T.A. in your buns, Dave High

Yes Dave, I need more room to

Yes Dave, I need more room to fish. Fresh, new, virgin water, so I can fire up the ole outboard and add CO2 for the trees that line the bank.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

LOL Dave H

here is the Presidential election of 2004 mapped out.

here

Kinda shoots that theory in the foot, groin and head.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

LAND WISE RESULTS

Seems from map, only 1 or 2 states land mass wise voted DIM.  That's probably 97 to 3 in land mass or more.  Guess we know now whenever you see a cluster of people in small area, they're all Dims.  Hey, that's right, it's the graveyards, nursing homes, asylums, govt housing areas, etc.!!!

Hey Al Gor...err, Dave,You ha

Hey Al Gor...err, Dave,

You have an answer for me, or just more incoherent garbage intended to dodge the question? 

It's really simple:  Tell me how we do this.  By my estimations, if the world is already at a 'crisis' stage, and our technologically advanced civilizations, as well as our developing societies, are only growing, I really don't see a viable solution...then again, I dont' have my AGW glasses on, and I haven't had any AGW kool-aid today, so that may be why I'm a bit verklempt at the moment.

Hi Dave - WALLS, walls I say.

Hi Dave - WALLS, walls I say.  We will build walls to keep you out!  And for those of you who get through, it will be you who get indoctrinated:

  • square dancing will be required for all new residents of "red" states
  • public schools will have all been shut down and ya'll will have to homeschool
  • church on Sunday and Wednesday Night (follow-up to Sunday to make sure you're keeping up) will be the law
  • ya'll will have to by a gun for personal protection as the criminals will go after you since we all got guns (lots)
  • no room on our farms for "tofu", we only grow meat and tatoes (and we cook our fish)
  • since Disneyland and Disney World will be gone, ya'll have to visit here
  • finally, ya'll have to build underground shelters for the increase in tornadoes/hurricanes

Ya'll think about that!  Maybe France would be better, we'll build you some replicas of the Ark, many as ya need.

Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore

vrwc13:Yikes!  On second tho

vrwc13:

Yikes!  On second thought, I think I will build my own ark!  I would like to go to the Creation Museum, though.  Understanding how people can actually believe that dinosaurs and human beings coexisted would be a treat to me.  Learning how the earth is only six thousand years old would also be special, given that a recent scientific (ooh, I know ya’ll hate that word) anthropomorphic (ouch again!) discovery has uncovered farming practices in the Andes Mountains dating back 9,000 years. http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSN2842559620070628

Do you suppose the ancients were growing peanuts, cotton and squash to feed and clothe the dinosaurs? 

I heard they had to yank the Adam and Eve movie, though.  Turns out Adam was a bit of a transvestite porn star!  http://blog.wired.com/tableofmalcontents/2007/06/creation_museum.html

Say, maybe I do want to move in with you guys after all!  I have heard what goes on behind the traveling revival show tent can be pretty tingly, to say the least!  Minister to me, baby!

Salaciously Yours, Dave High

Depends upon who you want to

Depends upon who you want to believe this or them scientists or Him.

vrwc13:I have always struggle

vrwc13:

I have always struggled with Genesis.  There are two parts to it, written apparently by two authors, presenting two entirely different creation stories along two different time lines.  I have never known which creation story to believe!  I have also wondered why God put two different creation stories together in the same book.  Maybe He couldn’t make up his mind, either.

In prayerful Wonderment, Dave High

Dave High, if you are really

Dave High, if you are really interested read this, and then we'll talk.  Mean it.

Anthropomorphic? Are you sugg

Anthropomorphic? Are you suggesting the discovery has human-like qualities (e.g. Disney, uhh... Hamas uses anthropomorphic characters such as Mickey Mouse to teach terrorism).

Dave,In typical Goresque fash

Dave,

In typical Goresque fashion, you failed to answer my relevant, direct question concerning the realities of curbing global carbon emissions.

Our global population is growing at an exponential rate, and if I remember correctly, the doubling time for oil consumption globally is about 8 years. (call me a liar here, or please, if someone feels up to it, locate the exact number...)

How can we possibly make even a dent in carbon emissions given these circumstances without halting, or even without destroying the advanced civilizations in this world? I'm not even attacking you here, I just want to know how this plan is supposed to work. 

jp - he's all misdirection an

jp - he's all misdirection and vapid remarks, he's the new tumblebunny, never needs proof, gets in the way of answering direct questions.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Of course he is...he drinks f

Of course he is...he drinks from the altar of Gore.  It's the simplest way to figure out if someone or some cause is legit...if it is, it should stand up to questioning.  You ask Al Gore a direct question that deals directly with his cause, and he will not/cannot answer.  Same goes with little Davie boy here.  All I want to know is how we are supposed to drastically reduce global carbon emissions in lieu of a booming global population, which in turn requires a ballooning volume of petrol fuel needed for sustenance, all without crushing our own, and other, advanced civilizations?  Seems like the obvious question to be asked to anyone that is 'pro' AGW theory, and yet I've not heard an answer.

<crickets>...

Time for lunch.  Maybe when

Time for lunch.  Maybe when I get back, Dave will have provided for us the solution to our 'carbon dioxide belching' problem...but for some reason, I won't be holding my breath ; )

Hey, Dave...what are your tho

Hey, Dave...what are your thoughts on this? And I assume you are aware that in 1800's that the CO2 levels rose to about 400 ppm.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Nope we'll need at least a c

Nope we'll need at least a couple of nice sized cruise ships just for the scientist.

"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.”   H.L. Mencken

seems like its your crowd tha

seems like its your crowd that is shrinking Dave.

Dave High: Hello, my name i

Dave High: Hello, my name is Dave High, and I'm a kool aid drinker.

Kool Aid Drinkers Anonymous Crowd: Hi, Dave.

Dave High: No, not yet, but I will be after this meeting, you can count on it. But don't tell my mom or she'll ground me again.

What about all that trash? Pl

What about all that trash? Plasitc bottles, glass, etc.

A bonafided and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.

As the chapter president of p

As the chapter president of pEta, I see no conflict with the hot-dog vendors.

(Of course the pEta I belong to is People Eating Tasty Animals).

I don't understand?

I'm a member of PETA and the statements in the article go directly against all they stand for and espouce.

The "greehouse gasses" that the "meat" industry mostly emits are the flatulant products of the animals themselves. The way to reduce the emisions is to eat the animals.

P.E.T.A. - People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

After the concert let's all

After the concert let's all meet up at the Grassy Knoll Cafe. Pass the word.

Mica something - Now wait jus

Mica something - Now wait just a dad-gummed minute.  My guitar doesn't have a single lick of plastic on it and It is, without a doubt, the finest electric guitar in the world bar none!

It is a Gibson Les Paul Custom.  It has a solid mahogany body with a rosewood fingerboard that has mother-of-pearl insets.  The pick-ups and tuning keys are plated with 18 K gold.  the stripe around the body is bone.

Of course the whiney panty-waist guitar players of today would think it was "too heavy" or wasn't cool enough.  Well, it was cool enough for the likes of Jimmy Page and David Gilmour!!!

I imagine that this is an acc

I imagine that this is an accoustic concert, a lot of energy to power those Marshall amps...

Or we can all just switch to

Or we can all just switch to Isopropyl Alcohol like Tipper did during her White House Days ... I think that has a low carbon footprint ...

And most of them don't know w

And most of them don't know what a real guitar sounds like anyway, or know any real guitar players. Here's an old link, first posted by Roger the Shrubber.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

We all have our favorites and

We all have our favorites and I agree with most of the selections however I'd move Carlos Santana up about 15 places.

I didn't see Duane Allman on the list either.  He should have been at least above Dickie Betts on the list.

He's at 19, and I agree Carlo

He's at 19, and I agree Carlos should be higher, though one of my faves is Mark Knopfler. and I would have moved "Langelo Mysterioso" up a few notches - that's a trivia question folks - Roger - any thoughts???

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Langelo Mysterioso - Rythm gu

Langelo Mysterioso - Rythm guitar on Badge (Cream)

Better known as George Harrison

We have a winner!!There is no

We have a winner!!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Blech. I was never a George H

Blech. I was never a George Harrison fan.

Didn't he use that name while recording with Clapton? My memory is a bit fuzzy. And was that before or after Clapton was banging Harrison's wife?

Me also, 'cept on &quot;Badge

Me also, 'cept on "Badge" - you can hear his style coming through - used the fancy moniker 'cause of some legal deal between record companies - was away around the problem - not sure of the under-the-sheets moves, wasn't into the entertainment values of the playa's then.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Left totally off lists!!

There's no way you leave ROY ORIBSON, GLEN CAMPBELL & JUNIOR BROWN of the TOP 15, much less off the entire list!!

Fast Eddie Clark...Thanks for

Fast Eddie Clark...

Thanks for bringing that website up again, distracting me from my job... :p

It is a crime that Neal Schon is ahead of Brian May, Tony Iommi, and Alex Lifeson...

Duane Allman is #19, btw.

{sounding like a demolib} YOU

{sounding like a demolib} YOU STARTED IT!!! - 'tis your link my friend.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

I can't remember his name but

I can't remember his name but he was the guitar player for Steely Dan.  Where is he on the list.  He was something!

I'm glad to see they recognized Ry Cooder.  I saw him and was floored by his talent.  Never was that famous though, I couldn't figure out why

Steely Dan - Walter Becker an

Steely Dan - Walter Becker and Donald Fagan.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

That would be either Jeff &qu

That would be either Jeff "Skunk" Baxter or Larry Carlton

Both excellent guitarists and I can keep up with both of them   hehe

Lowell George #137 - Should h

Lowell George #137 - Should have been in the top 100. 

Don Felder #181 - A bit low considering his contribution and effect on music.

Clarence White - Not on the list at all!  Member of The Birds, arguably the man behind the country rock guitar sound.  This guy had more talent than any headbanger or big hair glam queen ever.

Neil Young #76 - Joke.  Not a guitar genius.

Roy Buchanan #90 - Joke.  Is a guitar genius.

Paul Barrere - Not on the list.  Little Feat guitarist phenom.  (Fred Tackett ain't old shoe leather either.)

Bonnie Rait - Not on the list.  Sweet and sometimes nasty slide guitar.  No room in the top 200 for Miss Rait? 

Sentimental Favorites Missing - Brad Paisley, Les Paul and Django Reinhardt.  They may not be 'rock' guitarist but they certainly rock(ed) out whatever they played.

Beansomething:O-k, your guita

Beansomething:

O-k, your guitar is not plastic. Mine has a poly-u finish. That qualifies, no?

No plastic?What about the tru

No plastic?

What about the truss rod cover, pick guard, pickup selector switch and volume and tone knobs?

Are your's Bakelite (considered a plastic), metal, bone, etc.?

Not to mention the the nut, wiring/pots and guitar case since thay may use other materials or be external to the guitar.

regardless, your's is an uber-guitar for sure.

V

I just loved their current events section..........

They had better not catch Tip

They had better not catch Tipper backstage giving Glen Tipton and KK Downing lap dances this weekend. Oh, and how the sh*t will hit the fan if Dee Snider is there...

She could give them both danc

She could give them both dances at the same time, gyrating that much mass would require about a bazillion carbon credits to off set that energy expenditure.

* 45% favor &quot;the US Hous

* 45% favor "the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush;" 46% oppose.

* 54% favor "US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney;" 40% oppose.

HAhahahahahaha!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

wacky wacky...what charges?

Hey wacky wacky...what charges? where did you find these numbers?

What charges!? I wouldn't kno

What charges!? I wouldn't know where to begin!

I got them here.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Name one high crime

wacky wacky...Name one high crime

never mind...libtard poll

Wow...from this poll.

The ignorant still do not understand the Constitution. They do not understand that impeachment is tantamount to an indictment for a crime. They also do not understand that commuting a sentence is a delegate power to the POTUS.

So sad for the liberals...

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

I find most liberals to have

I find most liberals to have enjoyed being tarded so much they got tarded again.

No Soup For You

Reagan's NSA chief William Od

Reagan's NSA chief William Odom has an idea of where to start:

Every step the Democrats in Congress have taken to force the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq has failed. Time and again, President Bush beats them into submission with charges of failing to "support the troops."

Why do the Democrats allow this to happen? Because they let the president define what "supporting the troops" means. His definition is brutally misleading. Consider what his policies are doing to the troops.

No U.S. forces have ever been compelled to stay in sustained combat conditions for as long as the Army units have in Iraq. In World War II, soldiers were considered combat-exhausted after about 180 days in the line. They were withdrawn for rest periods. Moreover, for weeks at a time, large sectors of the front were quiet, giving them time for both physical and psychological rehabilitation. During some periods of the Korean War, units had to fight steadily for fairly long periods but not for a year at a time. In Vietnam, tours were one year in length, and combat was intermittent with significant break periods.

In Iraq, combat units take over an area of operations and patrol it daily, making soldiers face the prospect of death from an IED or small arms fire or mortar fire several hours each day. Day in and day out for a full year, with only a single two-week break, they confront the prospect of death, losing limbs or eyes, or suffering other serious wounds. Although total losses in Iraq have been relatively small compared to most previous conflicts, the individual soldier is risking death or serious injury day after day for a year. The impact on the psyche accumulates, eventually producing what is now called "post-traumatic stress disorders." In other words, they are combat-exhausted to the point of losing effectiveness. The occasional willful killing of civilians in a few cases is probably indicative of such loss of effectiveness. These incidents don't seem to occur during the first half of a unit's deployment in Iraq.

After the first year, following a few months back home, these same soldiers are sent back for a second year, then a third year, and now, many are facing a fourth deployment! Little wonder more and more soldiers and veterans are psychologically disabled.

And the damage is not just to enlisted soldiers. Many officers are suffering serious post-traumatic stress disorders but are hesitant to report it – with good reason. An officer who needs psychiatric care and lets it appear on his medical records has most probably ended his career. He will be considered not sufficiently stable to lead troops. Thus officers are strongly inclined to avoid treatment and to hide their problems.

There are only two ways to fix this problem, both of which the president stubbornly rejects. Instead, his recent "surge" tactic has compelled the secretary of defense to extend Army tours to 15 months! (The Marines have been allowed to retain their six-month deployment policy and, not surprisingly, have fewer cases of post-traumatic stress syndrome.)

The first solution would be to expand the size of the Army to two or three times its present level, allowing shorter combat tours and much longer breaks between deployments. That cannot be done rapidly enough today, even if military conscription were restored and new recruits made abundant. It would take more than a year to organize and train a dozen new brigade combat teams. The Clinton administration cut the Army end strength by about 40 percent – from about 770,000 to 470,000 during the 1990s. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld looked for ways to make the cuts even deeper. Thus this administration and its predecessor aggressively gave up ground forces and tactical air forces while maintaining large maritime forces that cannot be used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sadly, the lack of wisdom in that change in force structure is being paid for not by President Bush or President Clinton but by the ordinary soldier and his family. They have no lobby group to seek relief for them.

The second way to alleviate the problem is to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq as soon as possible and as securely as possible. The electorate understands this. That is why a majority of voters favor withdrawing from Iraq.

If the Democrats truly want to succeed in forcing President Bush to begin withdrawing from Iraq, the first step is to redefine "supporting the troops" as withdrawing them, citing the mass of accumulating evidence of the psychological as well as the physical damage that the president is forcing them to endure because he did not raise adequate forces. Both Democrats and Republicans in Congress could confirm this evidence and lay the blame for "not supporting the troops" where it really belongs – on the president. And they could rightly claim to the public that they are supporting the troops by cutting off the funds that he uses to keep U.S. forces in Iraq.

The public is ahead of the both branches of government in grasping this reality, but political leaders and opinion makers in the media must give them greater voice.

Congress clearly and indisputably has two powers over the executive: the power of the purse and the power to impeach. Instead of using either, members of congress are wasting their time discussing feckless measures like a bill that "de-authorizes the war in Iraq." That is toothless unless it is matched by a cut-off of funds.

The president is strongly motivated to string out the war until he leaves office, in order to avoid taking responsibility for the defeat he has caused and persisted in making greater each year for more than three years.

To force him to begin a withdrawal before then, the first step should be to rally the public by providing an honest and candid definition of what "supporting the troops" really means and pointing out who is and who is not supporting our troops at war. The next step should be a flat refusal to appropriate money for to be used in Iraq for anything but withdrawal operations with a clear deadline for completion.

The final step should be to put that president on notice that if ignores this legislative action and tries to extort Congress into providing funds by keeping U.S. forces in peril, impeachment proceeding will proceed in the House of Representatives. Such presidential behavior surely would constitute the "high crime" of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own personal interest.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Nice post  - proof, opinion

Nice post  - proof, opinion maybe, but show proof - "electorate knows this" - prove it, "extort congress" - prove it - think Shummer, Reid, Pelosi and co., would diaagree with you on that count - Please one proof.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

wacky wacky is a disturbed troll

"Such presidential behavior surely would constitute the 'high
crime' of squandering the lives of soldiers and Marines for his own
personal interest
.
"

What personal interest are you alleging? Do you have any proof or is just more wild-ass conjecture?

[btw, unpopular behavior does not constitute a "high crime".]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

What does your post have to d

What does your post have to do with anything that was being discussed on this thread?

Your post belongs in the Open Thread or in the Forums.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

So? Congress'  'approval ra

So? Congress'  'approval rating' in the latest polls are about half that of Bush's...

HAhahahahahahaha!

90% of posters wish Waka Waka

90% of posters wish Waka Waka would leave.

None of the three will happen.

* 45% favor &quot;the US Hous

* 45% favor "the US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against President George W. Bush;" 46% oppose.

* 54% favor "US House of Representatives beginning impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney;" 40% oppose.

HAhahahahahaha!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Heck of a job, Bushie! Hahaha

Heck of a job, Bushie! Hahahahaha!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

How about posting your commen

How about posting your comments that have nothing to do with this thread in the Open Thread or in the Forums?

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Asking a lot of a pseudo-no-r

Asking a lot of a pseudo-no-reader, aren't you MGDL? Most Trolls don't know how to read the polls, as they pretain to the question being asked, nor can they distinguish the results based on "feelings" vs. facts of the situation.

There is also the leading question - such as "How much do you know about the Libby Case? - Much - some - little " Follow-up with "If Much - Is it legal to commute a sentence?" or "If little - who is/was Libby?"

Additionally - if the whole sample is only 1 to 2k of people, what were the %'s of each group and how are the results calculated to extrapolate to the "voting" public - those who actually vote make the difference, not those who think they'll vote.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Waka: But if the pollsters ev

Waka: But if the pollsters ever asked these people 'why' they feel that way,

they'd get a collective 'duhhhhhh.'

Waka and the Islamofascists can celebrate tonight, the polls show Bush sucks.

Ya, interesting timing of you

Ya, interesting timing of your posts there, considering the overturning of the NSA domestic surveillance case.  Funny how 11 months ago, the MSM not only accused President George W. Bush, the 43rd President of the United States, of subverting the Constitution, but then, of course, called for his impeachment.  And today...WOW, could they look like more of a group of vitriolic horses as*ses?!?! 

You can type your "hahahahaha's" until the CO2 producing cows come home, it's not going to change the fact that George W. Bush is your President, that he can commute Scooter's sentence, if for no other reason than to p*ss of morons like yourself, and that he's 5 times the man than you'll ever be.  There's only 1 President of the United States, and that's George W. Bush.  No amount of lies or hate from the left can change that, and its killing them...and obviously you too, considering you get your rocks off by posting links to polls that are 100%, completely meaningless...just like you.

jpatch...thanks

Wel done, jpatch. Thanks.

thanks, LionKing.I wasn't goi

thanks, LionKing.

I wasn't going to waste my time, but geez, I'm so sick of trying to talk about real life issues, real problems and what we think are the right things to do to solve them, only to have trolls come along and think that they're changing the world because they hate our President. WOW.  Waaaaay revolutionary.

You know what would be really revolutionary?  A society that was comprised solely of people that took responsiblity for their own actions, while simultaneously sought to maximize our nations prosperity, and then postulated on how to extend that prosperity to the rest of the world.  It's starts with the individual, extends to the community, and then extends to the global community.

The problem with some crazy liberals is that they think completely backwards.  They start by saying, "We suck.  Look, the rest of the world hates us."  Then they move to, "Our government sucks.  They need to create more programs to fix everything.  We're not smart enough to run our own lives."  Then they move to, "the school system is dysfunctional; the healthcare system is dysfunctional, the cops are dysfunctional; the city government is dysfunctional; my neighbor is dysfunctional..."  When all along, the real dysfunction was sitting right inside their own skulls.

I'm actually very happy Bush

I'm actually very happy Bush is my president. Maybe not to the same bootlicking extent you are, but happy nonetheless. His inept and corrupt administration has guaranteed a Democrat will follow him into the White House and Democrats will expand their Congressional majorities next year. Thank you Mr. President!

And the appeals court ruled that the plaintiffs had no standing to challenge the domestic spying program because they couldn't prove they'd been spied on. The court did not address whether the domestic spying program is legal.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

The funny thing is, waka waka

The funny thing is, waka waka...

That the White House will be controlled by Republicans once again in 2008.  Hate to break it to you, but have you SEEN the crop of Democrats that are trying to win the presidency?  NO CHANCE.  But also...

Let's put petty emotional differences aside - honestly here: You are actually excited that there could be Democrats controlling our country?  On what grounds?  A total surrender in Iraq?  Socialized healthcare?  A national redistribution of wealth?  Billions upon billions spent (of our money, of course) to combat phantom AGW? 

Talk to me here.  I know you have to try and fight everyone because you are probably a democrat, and you are trying to stick to your allegiances, but what have you heard from any of the possible Democratic candidates that makes you feel like we'd be in better hands with them in power?  Seems to me that we'd allow Al Qaeda to secure a massive, world-changing victory in the Middle East, gas and grocery prices would sky rocket, our economy would sputter and then recede, and we'd have clowns like Nancy Pelosi all throughout our government running around, telling lies to our enemies and to our friends, ruining the fragile process of middle eastern diplomacy.

So tell me, why do you have such a hard-on for these Democrats?

Jeebus! You so crazy! How cou

Jeebus! You so crazy! How could we NOT be in better hands with Democrats in power? Look at the disaster this administration has been.

From the war in Iraq, to Katrina, to turning America from the shining city on a hill into the world's pariah in 6 short years, to the gi-normous budget deficit, to immigration, to skyrocketing gas prices, to the crappy economy favoring only the rich, to the Medicare prescription drug boondoggle, to secret prisons, to the destruction of the military, to Walter Reid, to illegal spying on U.S. citizens, to North Korea getting the bomb, to the resurgence of the Taliban and al Qaeda, to the corruption of the Justice Department...I mean, what HAS the administration not totally F-ed up? And are you seriously insinuating that Bush has done ANYTHING on "the fragile process of Middle Eastern diplomacy?"

Luckily most Americans, unlike you, are smart enough to see what's going on and will vote Democratic next year.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

You forgot that Bush was th

You forgot that Bush was the mastermind behind 9/11. Sheesh... how could you miss that one?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

You are completely helpless.

You are completely helpless.  I try to have a meaningful dialogue with a troll, and this is how I'm repaid: a virtual regurgitation of liberal taking points.  Congratulations waka, you have no brain.

Iraq war - started because of 9/11..remember, it was our ENTIRE COUNTRY that supported this war, a vast majority of Congress, including EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES FOR PREZ except Dennis Kucinich (who happens to be from my hometown of Lakewood, OH).  And this war isn't going 1/10 as badly as the MSM obviously has you believing...

Katrina - ummmmm...that would be a hurricane, so I'm not sure where you're going with that one, unless you mean to point out an example of the failures of local governments, and how they try to blame those failures on the federal government.  But that's a liberal's strong point, so you're right on...

America's a shining city on a hill - Ya, we're still here, despite Bill Clinton's and Al Gore's collective incompetence, and Bin Laden's grand plans to make us "shadows of ourselves", and we've suffered ZERO attacks since 9/11.  Bravo, American security forces of all types.

Budget deficit - it happens when you're trying to hunt down and destroy evil all over the globe.  But hey, you're right on with the liberals there...just ignore evil, and it will leave you alone.  Voilla!!  Budget deficit solved.

Immigration - I believe you're referring to "illegal immigration", and hey, what can you do?  We tell our boys to shoot on sight, we're monster.  We build a wall, we're crazy.  We try to grant amnesty, we're sellouts.  My solution would be to b*tch slap Mexico's government into cooperating, and if they fail, then we start shooting on sight.  It's the only way to secure our border.  After all, this is OUR country, and we have a right, and a duty to protect it from illegal, foreign invaders, no matter how "benevolent" their intentions may be.

Gas prices - skyrocketing?  Please.  again, war is expensive, but when we win, you'll see the good 'ol prices.  The thing is, WE NEED DOMESTIC SUPPORT TO WIN THE WAR, NOT DEFEATISM AND RETREAT!!

Economy favoring the rich - um, ya.  So, if that's not the most broad, unfounded and retarded comment you could make about the economy.  Republican Prez = favors rich people.  Democratic Prez = favors poor people. Good one.

Secret Prisons - perhaps we should disclose the locations where we interrogate suspected terrorists?  Or maybe we should just let them all go...they're mothers and fathers too!!!

Destruction of the military - you're insane.  We have the mightiest and most battle-tested military in the world, and we're only getting better.  Again, you're just foaming at the mouth here, spouting unfounded LIES.

etc. etc. etc.  my fingers are getting tired from exposing your ignorance.  But lastly, you say that Al Qaeda has had a resurgence?  See, you exemplify the point exactly:  no matter what reality tells us, there will be plenty of ignorant lemmings to eat up the treasonous lies that the MSM is spoon feeding. 

Lastly, beside your diatribe of MSM-fed lies, you failed to mention one thing that you've heard from any of the Democratic candidates that you support, or one good idea that you've heard for victory in Iraq, or to fix any of these "problems' that you've listed above.  So, like every other pyschotic, self-loathing miscreant, you've managed to avoid the poignant questions, you've managed to provide no vision, answers, or ideas to fix any of these "problems", and yet you blindly assert that somehow, someway, Democrats are going to return us to be a "shining city on a hill."

Thanks Waka, now we know exactly why Republicans will control the White House for the next 8 years, at least.

Woohoo! Way to stay on topic!

Woohoo! Way to stay on topic! Or are you too stupid to post on the open thread?

Don't answer. We already know.

But Roger, there was that who

But Roger, there was that whole discussion about geetars and pickers - that had nothing to do with being Green and Live Earth either . . (shuffle feet, shffle feet, wipe nose with sleeve, spit, yell "Bingo!")

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

I'm so mad about them having

I'm so mad about them having the nerve to sell meat at this event I'm going to have ribeye for dinner tonight instead of the planned t-bones!

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.