'Those Who Cure You Will Kill You'

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“If you can find money to kill people [referring to money spent to fight World War II], you can find money to help people,” said Tony Benn, a former Member of Parliament, in Michael Moore’s movie “Sicko.”

Contrast that thought with the eerie statement told to Canon Andrew White , a senior British cleric working in Baghdad, by an al-Qaeda leader in Iraq – “Those who cure you will kill you,” according to the Times (U.K.)

The Times said that the eight suspects involved in the recent British terror plots, “are all young, Muslim and connected to the medical profession. But they come from Jordan, Iraq, other Middle Eastern countries and India …”

According to the July 5 Telegraph (U.K.), another 45 British doctors have chatted online about carrying out terror raids in the United States.

It seems the British National Health Service (NHS) has come full circle since its inception in 1948. So much for that Hippocratic oath.

The artificial marketplace created by government-funded health care caused doctor shortages and has forced the NHS to look beyond its borders. Critics of the British system cite long waits and lack of resources.

So how has the NHS attempted to meet demand?

“Britain’s National Health Service has long relied on skilled foreign doctors to meet staffing shortfalls, and foreigners have long been drawn to its relatively generous salaries and exacting standards of training,” wrote Mark Landler and Sarah Lyall in the July 4 New York Times.

“Of the nearly 239,000 doctors registered with the General Medical Council, some 90,000 qualified in countries other than the United Kingdom,” The New York Times article continued.

Great Britain changed their rules about hiring doctors just last year, according to the Guardian (U.K.). Before April 2006, the British had very loose regulations for hiring foreign doctors. It was possible for a doctor to move to Britain and practice without a work permit. But Michael Moore left that detail out in his glorification of the British NHS in “Sicko.”The law of unintended consequences strikes again.

—Julia A. Seymour is an assistant editor for the Business & Media Institute.


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How much more proof will it take??!!!

Yet another example of terrorists who are not poor but very well off, not disenfranchised, but part of the prestigeous medical profession. What do they have in common? Islam. Some of these murderers and animals weren't even devout or hard-core muslims. They were apparently easily changed. Why? Because it is inherent in Islam to either convert averyone or kill them. It's that simple. The religion leaves no gray area of tollerance and coexistance.

All Muslims, or followers of Islam, are potential terrorists because it is part of the key teaching of the religion itself that followers must convert those who are not already followers (infidels) and kill those who refuse to convert. That is the main core of jihad.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

You're right the key teachin

You're right the key teaching of their religion is convert everyone and kill those who refuse to convert. There is no tolerance of any other religion other than Islam, just look at Saudi Arabia, they don't even have a Christian Church anywhere in that country. But yet they get very upset with us if we don't allow them to place a mosque anywhere in this country.

“Britain’s National Hea

“Britain’s National Health Service has long relied on skilled foreign doctors to meet staffing shortfalls,

This country is already facing a shortage of doctors, particularly in many rural areas (thank you, John Edwards). If we institute a similar health system here, are we going to be in the same boat a few years down the road?

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

"This country is alrea

"This country is already facing a shortage of doctors, particularly in
many rural areas (thank you, John Edwards). If we institute a similar
health system here, are we going to be in the same boat a few years
down the road?"

Of course we will. Medical professionals working under such systems make significantly less than those in capitalistic systems like ours. As such, there will be even fewer Americans willing to go into these professions, especially as doctors, which means we will have to import even more medical staff to fill unfilled positions.

Eventually, even the once prestigious medical field will be known as one of those "jobs that Americans won't do".

It should also be noted tha

It should also be noted that many American doctors lose their practice due to junk lawsuits. Many doctors quit their practice because of the threat of lawsuits or because they are actually not able to make enough money.

Foreign doctors immigrate here to practice because some of them have little to lose.

Got a question...

How can anyone, let alone anyone in England, trust a muslim doctor now? How could any one know that they are being properly treated or being given the correct perscription? Not all would be prone to blatant terrorism as we saw recently in England. Some might prefer more stealty means.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

I believe that hundreds of t

I believe that hundreds of thousands of Muslims are planting themselves all over the place and when given the 'word,' they will all blow themselves up and anyone around them.

I would never, knowingly let a Muslim touch me.

djms...

I would have to agree with yo

I would have to agree with you on this Debra

The hottest places in hell are oft reserved for those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral

Thank you, James...And I agre

Thank you, James...

And I agree with you about those who in times of moral crisis remain neutral.

Debra...

We shouldn't hate them or

We shouldn't hate them or fear being touched by them just because they are Muslim. This isn't a religious war, this is a war with people who use the Lord's name in vain to wipe away their guilt for being violent...much like how you use the Lord's name ( in vain ) to excuse your behavior when I have give you feedback to stop being a Pharisee.

Most Muslims are not terrorists. Though they need to voice their displeasure of the terrorists more. Problem is, any voicing requires hiring a team of body guards and such...who can afford that?

David (CV),I am not going to

David (CV),

I am not going to go rounds with you. This thread is not about me or what you wish to say you feel about me.

Have a nice day.

Debra...

For not comenting here about

For not comenting here about your hateful, unchristlike comment, you called me a coward.  So, CV agreed with me that it was hateful and decided to lay it out there, like you asked him to.  It is always about you Debra, you telling people how to behave, what to believe, and ignoring other people when they tell you to stop.  You are the coward.

amber,I will not respond to y

amber,

I will not respond to you again.

Debra...

because? Find it interesti

because? Find it interesting you made this post all about amber...for one who has posted "don't make this thread about me" do you not see the hypocrisy?

amber put my words in context to a conversation we were having on a different thread.

Sometimes debra you act rather immature "Im not talking to you" is immature. If you wish to not respond to amber, don't state it, just do it.

You make it about you Debra

You make it about you Debra. I said one part about you the rest was disagreeing with what you said about Muslims. What I said wasn't an attack to you. It was to give you an example how people use the Lord's name in vain to excuse their behavior. Before you take a knee jerk rejection, maybe you should listen what people are trying to tell you instead of playing the victim card. That is what tumbler kept doing ( playing the victim card instead of taking ownership of his behavior ), and look where it got him.

David (CV),Make no mistake, I

David (CV),

Make no mistake, I am nobodies 'victim.' I simply want to post here as anyone else does, without being dragged into personal debates that are way off topic.

Debra...

then respond accordingly De

then respond accordingly Debra, don't make the thread about you...if you think the thread is heading in the wrong direction, redirect it. But saying "don't make it about me" makes it about you.

Instead of playing the victim with "don't make it about me", agree or disagree with the other points I made, or don't post.

David, do  you have anything

David, do  you have anything to say on this topic? If so, say it and leave out the rest.         djms...

I made it easier for you De

I made it easier for you Debra, here is a repost what I said in bold, only this doesn't include any reference to you. Still think its funny that you have posted nothing but "don't make it about me" but then accuse me of not being on topic.


We shouldn't hate them or fear being touched by them just because they are Muslim. This isn't a religious war, this is a war with people who use the Lord's name in vain to wipe away their guilt for being violent

Most Muslims are not terrorists. Though they need to voice their displeasure of the terrorists more. Problem is, any voicing requires hiring a team of body guards and such...who can afford that?

We shouldn't hate them or

We shouldn't hate them or fear being touched by them just because they
are Muslim. This isn't a religious war, this is a war with people who
use the Lord's name in vain to wipe away their guilt for being violent

You are only half correct. There are Arabic words that more fully describe the scum that these people are. But MAKE NO MISTAKE. To them, THIS IS A RELIGIOUS WAR. What is worse, their poison has spread, there are many dissatisfied with their lot in life and they will hang on to this.

The terrorists may claim it

The terrorists may claim it to be a religious war, but the Muslims in general do not. Do not confuse your own blind hatred for facts.

Perhaps it's time for fight f

Perhaps it's time for fight fire with fire. Perhaps those of us who are Christians should start being very vocal about killing those who disrespect Christianity and Jesus.

Only if you want Christiani

Only if you want Christianity to attain the wonderfully-high level of respect Islam has right now...
JMR

Sonny, you are joking, right?

Sonny, you are joking, right? 

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

Bring on the Crusades?

Bring on the Crusades?

Free Health Care/Hill's New Plan

This is Hill's new Health Care Plan, especially for those who stand or stood in her way!!

An important topic gotten off track

Unless my comment is the last on this topic, it's unfortunate this very important subject got derailed by a personal disagreement. I wish there was a button to push where such squabbles could be derailed onto another thread where the people involved could call each other names leaving the subject to be discussed and commented on by others. But I guess 99% crude name calling with no substance or intelligence is already available to all at DailyKOS.com. Maybe NB can add a DailyKOS button to allow others to move name calling to it with a mouse click. No one there would notice a few more people cursing everyone and everything.

Now, back to this important topic. Why could no one think of this obvious as the nose on your face danger? Why? Because it's the only answer the U.K. has to their steadily worsening socialized medicine health system. Bring in doctors from ANYWHERE - no questions asked. Quite honestly, we in the United States are just as dumb. Did you know scholarships to flight school are again being granted to those from Islamic countries? A stroke of a pen and it was done (a few months ago). Why? The flight schools plead poverty to their representatives. Where are the "scholarships" coming from? Need you ask?

We will seal our borders and all Hell will break lose the day after a 9/11 times a thousand happens. I wish I could be in the "if" camp but, for me, it is "when". That's when the evil that is NOT Muslim takes mob vengeance on people who are innocent and peaceful. Western governments are NOT protecting minorities by covering up the depth of Islamofascism. No government will be able to hold back the nightmare they, incorrectly, think they are avoiding by sticking their head in the sand and encouraging everyone else to do the same. Once again, Western governments will have proven "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions". The new U.K. prime minister has banned the use of the word Muslim in the same sentence as the word "terrorist". As if not accurately describing something or someone will make the problem go away. Political Correctness is (still) going to kill us all. So far, it's been a death by a thousand cuts.

We are following Eurabia about ten years behind the mess they're in. It's too late for them but not for us. But it does look like next year we're going to speed up our lemming rush to the sea rather than change direction. Why does most of the West have a group Death Wish? Read the papers in the U.K. as they continue to blame themselves and you'll know why. 45 years of political correctness has ingrained a "blame ourselves" mindset that will only be broken with many horrific events. The U.K. blaming themselves for recent events is just a snippet of the massive change going on in our world.

"It's almost too late" can't last forever. The time is near and mostly the innocent will suffer the most. That pretty well sums up the history of mankind.

OK, w0tm, I'll bite, what do

OK, w0tm, I'll bite, what do you suggest we do as far as the terrorists are concerned?

BTW I agree with your political correctness will be the death of us all. Also I don't see this thread even close to the daily KOS, nor was it back and forth name calling and such. I and amber were on topic and disagreed with Debra concerning Muslims.