Meredith Vieira: Presidential 'Pardon' of Libby

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In an interview published today in the Tampa Tribune, Meredith Vieira talks about how wonderful her two jobs are, co-hosting NBC's "Today" and hosting the game show "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire." In particular, she loves the "switching gears" aspect of the stories she covers on "Today":

She says 'Today' is a great challenge 'because you can go from reporting on the presidential pardon of Scooter Libby to grilling hamburgers outside on the patio - from one kind of grilling to another - and I love that. Switching gears makes it so much fun.'

Presidential pardon? Pardon me? President Bush did not pardon Libby, he commuted his sentence. There is a huge difference between a pardon and a commutation. The felony conviction is still on his record, along with the huge fine he was ordered to pay, and he still faces the possibility of having his law license revoked. The only difference is that Libby won't have to serve jail time. And while the White House says a full pardon has not been ruled out, it hasn't happened yet.

(If you want some perspective on how freely presidential pardons and commutations have been handed out, check out this list, which runs down the numbers from the past 10 presidents.)

Sure this was just a fluff interview piece, but Vieira's slip of the tongue is indicative of the bias that so many media mavens are loathe to admit exists. And people reading this interview who might otherwise not know many details surrounding the Libby commutation flap, might take her comments at face value and think that a pardon had indeed been issued.

Either that, or Vieira just likes alliteration.


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Meredith's audience is more i

Meredith's audience is more interested in the grilling of the burgers than anything else going on in the world.

So I asked my audience if they liked 'fire?' Most of them responded that fire was 'bad.'  - - - Meredith trying to understand her viewers

Good point, Mica. 

Good point, Mica. 

'tis more then bias - the cow

'tis more then bias - the cowards who are still practicing, what they call journalism, have an agenda, and that is to create a fear in the citizens of this country, that can only be helped by the government - the shortsightedness of this view, is that they are leading themselves into the suspension and eventual demise of their own jobs - government ownership of the news.

It is also an example of the poor job the "newsies" do in reporting the truth of a story - actually, they either can't or don't know how.

" . .and I love that. Switching gears makes it so much fun." - I'm all for having fun in the workplace, but wouldn't it be MORE fun, to report, and stick to the old, who, what, where, when, how and sometimes why, journalistic standard? Maybe Vieira never heard of that, could it be that someone like her looks more then her "smarts"? But that's just from a sexist pig way of thinking, hum?!?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Is the use of the word "

Is the use of the word "pardon" an intentional lie on Merediths' part? Or is it her ignorance that is on display here? I would be willing to bet it is both.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I agree, it's probably both

I agree, it's probably both, but IMO this is why a mere commutation with a possible pardon later was a mistake compared to just going all the way and giving him a pardon. I've heard the reasons, but strategically, or maybe politically, or maybe just cynically, I can't agree with 'em. Presidents get to pardon people if they want, and it seems like he's paying all the PR costs of a pardon without getting the full benefit by going this route.
JMR

Commutation, pardon, it's a

They will continue to call it a "pardon" because that makes it sound like it's in "Marc Rich" territory. Commutation, pardon, it's all the same to them. Libby got a "break"....that's all that matters, and that's why they hate it.

Marc Rich not the worst pardon from Clinton

IMHO, I believe the most egregious pardon was for Dan Rosentkowski.

[How would you libs categorize the pardon of his own brother, Roger?]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

sarcasmo - I wished they woul

sarcasmo - I wished they would call the commutation what it really is - an obstruction of justice.  Libby still gets to invoke his "5th", so he can't be forced to testify against Cheny or Bush or in a civil trial while his "appeal" is in progress. 

dingy ???

Are you really that ignorant? What justice is being obstructed? They knew all along that Dick Armitage was the leaker...so, who could Libby possibly be trying to protect and why?

[The prosecution could never prove intent, that is why the decision will ultimately be reversed on appeal. The only Bush has done so far is to keep a dignified man from being imprisioned before the appeal process has been completed.]

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.
Thompson/Rice

LK was that comment about re

LK was that comment about really being that ignorant a rhetorical question? 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

rhetorical ???

Not really...it was actually supposed to make dingbat perform a little introspection. I assume that he must be researching liberal talking points in order to respond.

LK - you're gonna have 'ta ex

LK - you're gonna have 'ta explain "introspection" - he could open himself up to inspect, or he may edit an intro - or who knows what else. And I take offense at the dingbat term. There is only one, y'know.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Lion King - Armitage leaking

Lion King - Armitage leaking to Novak does NOT absolve Libby of leaking the same info to Judy Miller, Ari Fleisher, and Tim Russert and lying about it.. 

President OJ (Obstruction of Justice) had many leakers in his administration.

Evidence

And what evidence do you have of such?  Put up or shut up!

PawpaN -  Libby leaked to Mi

PawpaN -  Libby leaked to Miller, Ari and Russert. Rove leaked to Novak and Cooper. Ari leaked to a copule of WH press correspondents.  And I forget which one leaked to Pincus. Its in the testimony.

Actually, they only have Libby for

Actually, they only have Libby for disagreeing with Russert on what they discussed.

Seaing as Russert has been excited about a conviction for the "Plame Leak", it would appear the "star witness" has a credibility problem.

Anyway, don't you think a huge fine is enough? Plus he's serving exactly the same amount of jail time as Clinton did for perjury . . . and Clinton admited that he perjured himself.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

Free Stinker - Do you believe

Free Stinker - Do you believe Judy's Miller notebook was lying?  (her notebook confirms that Libby mentioned Plame at 2 separate meetings)

Do you believe Ari was lying?  If Libby didn't tell Ari about Plame, who did? 

Sorry to burst your RNC talking point but Clinton was never convicted of perjury

Show me where I said he was

Show me where I said he was convicted.

I'll wait . . . meanwhile, everyone else can entertain themselves with this:

U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright found President Bill Clinton in
civil contempt of court Monday for his "willful failure" to obey her
repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual
harassment lawsuit.

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Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

Bill and Hillary were never in the White House at the exact same time, because that much evil cannot be contained in one building.

Free Stinker - Webber found C

Free Stinker - Webber found Clinton "in contemp of court"; Webber did NOT find Clinton guilty of "perjury".  Clinton was never charged with perjury (except for one of the impeachment articles and even then the Senate found him not guilty on that charge). 

And he also didn't lose his

And he also didn't lose his law license, or get impeached, or commit adultary . . .

I love how you libs defend your hero!

Perjury - The deliberate, w

Perjury - The deliberate, willful giving of false, misleading, or incomplete testimony under oath

All Clinton did was fail to answer truthfully under oath. I'm glad you cleared that up for us Ding. I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of IS is.

Fact - What he DID, was to commit perjury. What he got away with is beside the point.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq to derail the impeachment
vote: “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any
President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

That's Funny

Clinton was not charged with perjury.  Don't you ever read?

I Walk Funny

Nobody's going to testify aga

Nobody's going to testify against Cheney or Bush, anytime, or anyhow.  Fitzgerald closed his investigation months ago, and the only one charged with violating a law was Libby and his perjury. 

If Fitzgerald couldn't charge (let alone convict)  Richard Armitage --- the man who confessed before the investigation even began, to having given Plame's CIA identity to Novak --- then, no one gets nailed.  It's a dead issue.

As the Left likes to say, it's "Time to move forward."

Galvanic - There is still the

Galvanic - There is still the possiblity of a civil trial in which Libby can confidently invoke his 5th.

 Armitage didn't know Plame was covert; Libby did.  Libby knew Plame was covert when he leaked to Judy Miller and Ari.

Sacarsimo    Maybe Bush is

Sacarsimo    Maybe Bush is witholding his "pardon" so that the American Judicial system can work.........via the Appeal.....  

Since the B>S> conviction is back in the News again full time, I cannot understand the TOTAL LACK OF MEMORY of the 140 Pardons from Clinton and His Wife.....and Hillary just can't seem to remember anything...which is how you avoid Scooter's fate and the Perjury TRAP......Hillary's recording back in 2001 when asked about the Pardons by Bubba, was played on Rush's broadcast today, and it is amazing she didn't even know her own brother was asking for pardons for his buddies (and receiving) pardons. 

She doesn't know nothing.........Journalists have reaced a new low in forgetting history in their Bush Bashing Frenzy....Even the most Casual Observer can see thru this one.  I hope they hold a hearing on the Commutation....and have BUSH do a pardon in the middle of the Proceedings.  

Hey Congress....Gozales is Still Attorney General.....and Scooter is NOT going to Prison....Show America that $3.00 a gallon gasoline and an Energy Bill is NOT what you're all about....Show American what Really is on your Congressional mind.

Can an Approval rating for Congress go Negative ?    

What good is a Free Press, if it is a False Press ?   David Foote  GoE

History began 1/21/2001

Don't you know that HISTORY didn't even begin until 1/21/2001.  Therefore anything prior to that is not known!

bass,I'd say it is ignoranc

bass,

I'd say it is ignorance, as I doubt Viera is intelligent enough to differentiate between pardon and commutation.

Besides, I doubt very seriously that 99% of her viewers even know who Scooter Libby is.

Help Fred defeat the RINOs, along with the Hitllary-Obama Axis, & win the White House in '08.

This isn't the first time I'v

This isn't the first time I've heard "pardon" being used in this case. Mark my words - this is the beginning of another attack on Bush's "corrupt" administration, that the press and Dem leadership will use to beat us about the head and neck for the next few months. It's just another misinformed, artificially created controversy like the NSA wiretapping and the attorney firings. We will be hearing the words "Libby" and "pardon" together until we puke, and then it will go the same way as all the other "controversies" and fade away into the nothingness that it always was.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

And they will continue to c

And they will continue to call it a "pardon", because generally, when they say it, there is no one right there to call them on it. Do you think Veiera or anyone else is going to issue a correction days later, saying "we called it a pardon, but he has not been pardoned; it's a commutation, which is different, and just means he won't serve time in jail; the other penalties still apply."

Start holding your breath now......

Let's hope this is one of tho

Let's hope this is one of those situations where if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes truth.

Pardon Libby.

I agree, bassndude.  The hos

I agree, bassndude.  The hosts of Today, GMA, Fox & Friends, et al, get very loose with the language they toss around, an dit's probably a mix of thoughtlessness and intention.

I think it more a case of i

I think it more a case of intellectual laziness. They didn't know what a commutation was before looking it up, so they figure noone else knows what it means either, and they don't want to explain the difference between a commutation and a pardon, so they use the more discrediting term for President Bush. It's just more condescension from our "superiors" in the msm.

I disagree Galvanic. I think

I disagree Galvanic. I think their misuse of language is entirely intentional, else how could they make this issue controversial? It is a non-story about a non-crime.

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

You are absolutely...

Correct, bassndude! Queen Meredith is playing semantics with her viewers and she knows it.  It is something left-coast, bleeding-heart, 'do as I say, not as I do' liberals in the media attempt on a daily basis. 

It is the old saying: "if you tell a lie long enough, someone will eventually believe it."  With Queenie, she is banking that one word will be interpreted as another and, unfortunately, the liberal morons that watch her are biting on it hook, line and sinker.

"Yeah, that's the ticket!" - Tommy Flanagan

The modus operandi of the left.

They use terms that are false in order to make their points. They call things by what they want, rather then what they are, in order to better have an argument.

They call Iraq a "quagmire" so as better to re-inforce their wishes.

They call Iraq a failure so as better to make it seem as bad as possible

They call it a "Pardon" because Clinton issued pardons that are unjustifiable.

The bottom line is that when the left refer to something by a term, you can almost guarentee it is anything BUT that term.

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

And they use "Climate Ch

And they use "Climate Change", instead of GW, when the weather is cold or overly icy/snowy ...

The use of climate change leaves it all wide open so ANY weather event(s) (bug infestations, animal deaths, poison ivy over-growth ... teen age acne ... babies' diaper rash ... etc) can easily be shoved into the catagory of GW.

Viera and all her leftist ilk

Viera and all her leftist ilk never tire of spinning to put it nicely for now...

Well...take this SPIN back at you ..... Viera and all you tiresome lying enemies within.

Bring it on....as Snow says so well....

I am past fed up with all of the left.

I think if Merideth quit he

I think if Merideth quit her news job (resigned) and then everyone said that she was fired, she'd be quick to correct everyone. That would be an interesting twist. Ha ha.

Now now now, in Meredith's de

Now now now, in Meredith's defense, we do have to remember that her last job was the 'ta da' girl on The View. It is not her fault that the Today Show has no higher qualifications than The View.

djms...

The Worst

Of all the crimes committed by this administration on a daily basis the Wilson/Plame Case is the worst.

We know someone within the White House ordered Plame's name leaked for no other reason than petty political revenge. The farce of an argument that this was just casual inner talk that slipped out is insulting to any reasonable person's intelligence. The Straw-man Armitage is also just that. Who gave him Plame's name? Why did he know? Plame was covert (and please stop with the she was NOT covert crap! The head of the CIA in testimony before congress in public said she was) and information on her was on a need to know basis. Why was her name being flung around like an old recipe? At best they are guilty of negligence and endangering National Security, at worst, High Treason.

One of our own, turned out during a time of war. One would think that there are some crimes not even the most partisan would not be able to stomach, but apparently there no sewer vile enough for this White House to crawl through or for their minions to follow.

Libby, after being found guilty of lying to protect these traitors is now pardoned by the very man he has the goods on and STILL there are people that see nothing wrong with this.

President Bush COMMUTED Lib

President Bush COMMUTED Libby's sentence. He did not pardon him. Please, learn the difference.

Then why wasn't Armitage char

Then why wasn't Armitage charged, much less tried and convicted?

And speaking of sewer, what is your view of the crimes committed by the 140 felons whom Bill Clinton pardoned and of the motives behind those pardons?  Do you feel, for example, that trading with an enemy while they are holding Americans hostage is a pardonable crime?

Finally, how do those crimes compare to Libby's crime?

Lying lib***l liars

We know someone within the White House ordered Plame's name leaked

That's an outright falsehood on your part, which I am sure you must know...  unless you've been living in a cave somewhere.

Which makes you a common or garden liar. That's right dimwit, nothing more nor less than a typical lying lib***al liar.

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

Jack you dont need to repeat

Jack you dont need to repeat yourself...liberal liar.  A double negative. 

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

NO LEAK

Seems there was NO LEAK, so why do you keep saying that!  Same way with PARDON, there was NO PARDON.  You get all your so called news from the BDS people and then get fluff on any Lib problem.  Your handle is totally denied by your thoughts.  Change it to Nonsense!

To pardon is a liberal behavior

Sorry a bit long but ...

Too bad the Libranos do not spend all that energy checking these fine liberals for something a little sticky!

NAME, DISTRICT, SENTENCED, OFFENSE

Linda Jones, (fka Linda D. Medlar) N. D. Tex. 1998
Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, to make a false statement to a bank,
to launder monetary instruments, and to engage in monetary transactions
in property derived from specific unlawful activity; aiding and
abetting bank fraud; aiding and abetting false statements to a bank;
aiding and abetting laundering monetary instruments; aiding and
abetting engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from
specific unlawful activity; obstruction
of justice; falsifying, concealing and covering up a material fact by
trick, scheme, or device; making a false statement;
18 U.S.C. §§ 2, 371, 1001, 1014, 1344(1) and (2), 1503, 1956(a)(1)(A)(i) and (B)(i), and 1957/

Jackie Lee Miller N. D. Okla. 1983
Conspiracy to defraud the United States, 18 U.S.C. § 371

Thomas Peter Stathakis D. So. Car. 1976
Selling and delivering firearms to out-of-state resident and falsifying
firearms records, 18 U.S.C. §§ 922(b)(3), 922(m), and 924(a)

Kathleen Vacanti C. D. Calif. 1979
Conspiracy to defraud the United States by obtaining payment of false
claims, presenting false claims to the United States, forging a
writing, and aiding and abetting, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2, 286, 287, and 495

Giuseppe Casadei-Severei D. Puerto Rico 1987
Obstruction of justice, 18 U.S.C. § 1503

Monroe Lee King S. D. Tex. 1973
Making plates for counterfeiting Federal Reserve Notes, 18 U.S.C. § 474

Charles Patrick Murrin C. D. Calif. 1988
Bank robbery, 18 U.S.C. § 2113(a)

David Walter Ratliff N. D. Okla. 1981
Making false statement to the government, 18 U.S.C. § 1001

Kevin Lester Teker W. D. Wash. 1989
Maliciously damaging property used in an activity affecting interstate commerce by means of an explosive, 18 U.S.C. § 844(i)

Darrin Dean Dorn S. D. Iowa 1981
Conspiracy to damage property by means and use of an explosive, 18 U.S.C. § 371

William Arthur Borders, Jr. N. D. Ga.1982
Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for
influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge, and to
defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful
government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing,
impeding, and endeavoring to influence, obstruct, and impede the due
administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein
; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery, 18 U.S.C. §§ 371, 1503, 2, and 1952

Pincus Green S. D. N. Y. 1984 superseding indictment
Wire fraud, mail fraud, racketeering, racketeering conspiracy, criminal
forfeiture, income tax evasion, and trading with Iran in violation of
trade embargo, 18 U.S.C. §§ 1343, 1341, 1962(c), 1962(d), 1963, and 2;
26 U.S.C. § 7201, 50 U.S.C. § 1705, and 31 C.F.R. §§ 535.206(a)(4),
535.208 and 535.701

Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw N. D. Calif. 1976
Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2113(a) and (d) and 924(c)(1)

Folks, this is only the BEGINNING of the cretins pardoned by Slick
Willy, and a majority of them involve bank and wire fraud, cocaine
charges, stolen vehicles, using explosive devices, and on and on and
on. So please, just humor me here liberals. What in this list comes
even CLOSE to what Scooter Libby was convicted of? You guys are so
blinded by your hatred for Bush, you cannot see the horizon for the
forest that is the evil anti-christ you think is President Bush. Guess
your hero, Bill Clinton, just helped out some poor mis-guided soles who
really made innocent mistakes in their lives. Yeah, right.

Thank you Msunderestimated!

msunderestimated.com

The Liberals have become what they hate.

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More likely she mispoke than intentionally misled viewers

Meredith more likely mispoke than intentionally misled viewers when she said pardon rather than commutation.

I am disgusted by the moral relativism displayed by the Republican Presidential candidates and my fellow citizens who don't see anything wrong with commuting Lewis Libby's sentence.

He lied to a grand jury, most likely in an attempt to cover for his boss Dick Cheney. He was found guilty of committing perjury and he should have served his sentence.

So many arguements have been put forth about pardons given out by other presidents. Without addressing each specific pardon and their relationship to the President and his administration one cannot give an honest assessment about the ethics of all those pardons.

I have no doubt that there have been some highly unethical pardons by past Presidents which if we were in a just world would have gotten them impeached.

But this commutation of a member of the President's administration is particularly unethical. From the start Libby knew that if he just kept his mouth shut and did not implicate his boss or Bush that he would have his sentence commuted or be pardoned.

The childish, Clinton pardoned person X, in no way justifies or legitimizes the commuting of Libby.

The Republican party tries to portray itself as the party of ethics and respectability and with this commutation and the support of it by so many of the most die hard Republicans, shows that these supporters are completely devoid of ethics.

So often, democrats and republicans sacrifice their principles on freedoms, ethics, and the law, when their party "wins" but when we toss aside our principles to support our "team", we all lose. Its a shame so many are blind to that.

i didn't realize the appeal h

i didn't realize the appeal had been settled