Bozell Column: Edwards vs. Coulter

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So there was Elizabeth Edwards, wife of the Blow-Dried One, berating Ann Coulter on the art of civil discourse last week. After her phone-in appearance on the Chris Matthews show, St. Elizabeth was the toast of the media town, making the rounds from one network to the next, with rose pedals strewn in her path to guide her to her seat, denouncing the “hatefulness” and “ugliness” of conservative commentators. “We can't have a debate about issues if you're using this kind of language,” she lectured.

It’s a good thing none of her interviewers pretended to be objective. It’s a good thing she wasn’t asked about hatefulness and ugliness on the left. It would have been painful.

For instance, what if she’d been asked to denounce a quote from a leading liberal who favors rage as a necessary ingredient in fighting for a rapid timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, and who attacked congressional Democrats as weaklings: “We needed uncompromising rage, and we got silence. We needed courage, and we got silence. And that silence was, have no doubt about it, a betrayal: of the soldiers, of the voters in 2006, of humanity and morality.”

Accusing someone of betraying our soldiers (never mind all of humanity) – that registers as hateful and ugly in my book. So who said that? The author of those words would be one St. Elizabeth Edwards, on June 8, accepting the “Rage for Justice Award” from the Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, a Naderite “consumer” lobby.

What of the person who suggested America is a country that is not only obsessed with wealth, it criminally neglects the poor, and that racism was part of that cruel formula? “We have a country that is complacent about the creation of a permanent underclass, largely an underclass of color, while paying lip service to words like equality and opportunity.”

Anyone who resents an association, direct or otherwise, with policies that acquiesce to racism would find those words hateful and ugly, to say the least. OK, so who said them? Elizabeth Edwards, meet Elizabeth Edwards.

How about comparing the Bush administration to the slaughtering nomads of Darfur, with the poor as victims of Washington’s “genocide”? “The White House has led the charge against working people, in their own class war. The late, great Molly Ivins once wrote: ‘If there was class warfare, that war was long over. And it was a massacre… a genocide to which there have been words of acknowledgement, as there have in Darfur, but as with Darfur, no meaningful action.”

Even Chris Matthews would find those words hateful and ugly. I can only hope he was ignorant of them or it would have been most embarrassing asking St. Elizabeth to denounce herself.

More rage from St. Elizabeth, this time against America: “A country made great by men and women who work with their hands now debases and ignores them, and celebrates instead the investment banker, the money changers, while holding a Bible (which would teach them otherwise) as a sword against gays and lesbians, against women, and even against science itself.”

Then there is the hate and ugliness coming from some of her husband’s presidential campaign staff.

“God is a sadistic bastard.” Sen. Rick Santorum talks about sex “lest his lack of self-control be manifested by f---ing his desk on the Senate floor.” In the Duke Lacrosse case, “Can’t a few white boys sexually assault a black woman anymore without people getting all wound up about it?” These statements, among others, are the proud utterances of the erstwhile official Edwards for President blogger, Amanda Marcotte.

President Bush has a “wingnut Christofascist base.” “When CNN invited Ann Coulter to comment on the 2004 presidential debates…they had officially transformed into the C--- News Network.” These were some of the offerings from the other official campaign blogger, Melissa McEwan.

How in the world did these vile women find positions as the official bloggers in the Edwards campaign? According to Men’s Vogue magazine, they were hired by … you guessed it: St. Elizabeth. And even after their wretched bigotry triggered a national outcry, John Edwards refused to fire them.

But Elizabeth Edwards wasn’t confronted on a single one of these statements during any of her media appearances. In the collective eyes of the press, conservatives, almost by definition, are ugly and hateful and their raging deserves denouncement. Liberals, on the contrary, are permitted to rage, and when they froth at the mouth with the most hateful language imaginable, they’re celebrated for that raging, even presented with “Rage” awards. Such are the standards of civil discourse in the land of liberalism.

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Ironic, because this is what

Ironic, because this is what Ann described in her book Treason on how the lib Dems took down McCarthy, the false outrage with the false issue.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

Elizabeth Edwards is designed to get Al Gore in the Race

Another wonderful article by Mr. Bozell, but I have exposed this last week in Elizabeth Edwards is a dupe who thought she was helping her husband but Matthews and his globalist handlers set this up to get Al Gore into the race.

They know Edwards is a looser so they picked him over Obama who is already taking the wind out of Hillary's sails. Al Gore stated a month ago that he would be in the race if someone faultered. That someone is Hillary in money not raised, criminal court hearings and and soft poll numbers.

The globalists all know Hillary can not win and the last thing these racists want is Obama leading their agenda. Obama was set up to keep the minority blacks happing thinking they got to sit at the big table, but it was the Hispanic Richardson who has been groomed from day one to be Hillary's running mate.....or Al Gores as he has now worked a deal to be the winning puppet for the global communists just like the Bill was.

Gore will get in the race probably September. He has cleared his schedule and it will come forth with a message something akin to, "The world is melting down in global warming and Bush and Hillary set the fire in this Middle East war. (Not Iraq but a coming dust up by the globalists to get America out of the region and to secure it for the central Europeans) I am the only one who can save the troubled masses.

Look Al Gore indoctrinated 1000 VOLUNTEERS last year to send them out to educate the public on globAL warming. These were the first wave of his campaign minions off the books which everyone missed.

Gore gets in the race and he thumps the Breck Girl, Madame Hillary gets exposed as a crook as the press turns on her and Obama is sent back by Al to the hired help shack. That is what Matthews pulled and with Brian Williams numbers tanking don't think for a minute that Matthews might just show up on NBC to match Hillary's CBS love festering and Boy George on ABC.

This is all set up and a set up.

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Breathtaking Hypocracy

It would have been more delicious to hear Matthews asking her about her treatment of her neighbor.  The gentleman was in the unfortunate position of living next door AND not possessing the kind of money that the Edwards' are used to their neighbors having.  It irritated her that he was both poor and poor whie trash at that.  It didn't help matters that the gentleman was a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment.  They harassed the man so badly that with the increase in real estate taxes caused by the mountain of money they payed for their Southern mansion, he decided to move away.  Mother Theresa she ain't! 

Great research, Brent.  Once

Great research, Brent.  Once again, Leftist hypocrisy reigns.

It's obvious that the MSM -- even if they were aware of her history of hateful speech --- won't lay a glove on her.  Her fatal disease is her armor against valid criticism.   You can almost hear Rosie O'Donnell shouting, "How dare you criticize Elizabeth Edwards!   She's a mother with young children and she's bravely coping with a fatal cancer!  You conservatives have no sense of dignity!"

Edwards - Coulter: looking for better context.

Edwards - Coulter: looking for better context.

Brent. I think that you've gotten much closer to the needed context, here. However, what seems to be missing, even from NB, is a good solid review of the other side of this issue - other than limited to the Edward's camp.

Looking across a rather wide spectrum of job titles, while attempting to leave out actual true journalists, Ann Coulter (and a small handful on the right) is generically the equivalent of Bill Maher, Stephani Miller, Ben Affleck, Michael Moore, Paul Krugman, Robert Sheer, Olbermann, Maureen Dowd -- well, the liberal list must be in the hundred's (of popular names).

When, on occassion,  Ann Coulter (and/or a small handful on the right) speak out and say something that touches on a nerve - and yes, sometimes it is a off color - the MSM and the radical left media have a hayday over it. Everyone on the street is talking about it. And yes, even the media's "journalists" can't keep their hands off of it.

On the other hand, when it's the almost daily use of insulting name calling, misrepresentation of a conservative's comments, "the ugliest person of the day award," the telling of lies, etc., from the "hundreds on the left," the MSM is almost always out to lunch.

Certainly, there is enough evidence of this to fill a book, however, someone should do enough research here to give us the top 10 (or 50) off-color statements (smears) from MSM loved leftist spokespersons (a columnist, a pundit, politician, a comedian, a movie star, a journalist, a editor, a foreign correspondent, a blogger, an anchor) - with a comparative note on the lack of coverage  following the incident in the MSM.

Well, that's my wish. (;~> gary

-- I wonder if anyone ever made snide remarks about Reagan's Alzheimers?

Why conservatives can’t acc

Why conservatives can’t accept the fact that Ann Coulter is one of the most vile, hateful people on the planet is beyond me.  She makes her living by saying vile, hateful things about other people, for God sakes!  She is proud of it!  She calls people “faggots,” makes fun of dead people, slanders living people who have lost their loved ones, wishes people and “liberal” institutions were killed and/or blown up, and on and on it goes.  Comparing Foul-Mouth Annie to Elizabeth Edwards in the vile, hateful speech category is so much of a stretch, it is laughable.  Talk about not passing the smell test!  

I suppose conservatives feel compelled to defend this awful person because she is one of their own.  She represents the conservative dark side; a side that must somehow be vindicated.  Go figure.

Regards, Dave High

 

........And why Liberals cant

........And why Liberals cant' accept the fact that people like Bill Maher, Rosie O'Donkey, Al Frankenfurter, and half of the MSM does the same thing. Nobody holds them to the fire though, not even you people.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on bx10475, Liberals, and the MSM.

Ann Coulter is often over-the

Ann Coulter is often over-the-top.  She does it to call attention to the issue, and sell books -- which has made her a wealthy woman.

She's a bit milder than Al Franken, Keith Olbermann, et al, and considerably tamer than the former Edwards bloggers.

But I'll give Coulter credit for one thing:  she sticks by what she says, and that drives the Left wild.  She's more clever than the majority of her critics. 

}}----> Over the top

I don't find Ann's comments over the top.  It's just that the sitcom, soundbite, short attention span, world refuses to entertain context.

Lysdexics untie!

Ann and Rush et al are simpl

Ann and Rush et al are simply a long-overdue RESPONSE to decades of unchallenged left hate...

Taste of their own medicine now - tastes pretty shitty don't it Dave?

...grin and bare it like we had to - and maybe we can talk in a few decades...now please f*ck off - and I mean that in a truly excusable Bill Maher/Rosie O'Donnell/Whoopi Goldberg/etc etc etc kinda way:)...

The difference is douchebag,

The difference is , that Ann, and Rush tell the truth. Although I dont' agree with her tactics 100% of the time, she's not saying anything any more outrageous than the leftist moonbat televangelists that serve you your Kool-Aid every evening.

Rush, and Ann feed the truth  to the kookfringe raw, sprinkled with glass, and adorned with razorblades, and you guys love it! Thats why you keep coming back for more.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on  Liberals, and the MSM.

This is the point Blazer, tha

This is the point Blazer, that the libs refuse to acknowledge. Coulter does make over the top comments, and while I often don't agree with her methods, I whole-heartedly agree with her point. I am so frikkin' sick to death of the double standard that supposedly intelligent people like Dave High (or should it be High Dave?) perpetuate. They are lightening fast to call attention to comments of people like Coulter, yet blatantly ignore or excuse those of the left. After Brent Bozell's FACTUAL list of Liz Edwards' comments, he still refuses to accept a comparison between her and Coulter, and is probably even willing to accept her as FLOTUS, should Edwards, by some astronomical chance, win election to POTUS. There is just no figuring the Lefties...

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

You don't see Olbermann and

You don't see Olbermann and Franken tossing around words like "treason" every time they open their mouths, telling crippled Vietnam vets that they're the reason we lost the war, suggesting that 9/11 widows are enjoying their husbands' deaths, etc. etc. etc.

Coulter is worse. She is a caricature of what a conservative should be.

Everyone knows the meaning of "BDS"

Everyone knows the meanng of "BDS", and observing the absolute hatred of Coulter by the left, I propose a new acronym of "CDS" for "Coulter Derangement Syndrome".....   ;^>

Likewise, HDS for those who

Likewise, HDS for those who froth at the mouth over Hillary...

Actually, most of us make fun of Hillary

Actually, most of us make fun of Hillary.  

Sure, and she deserves to b

Sure, and she deserves to be mocked, but there are people here who love to use "Hitlery" and proclaim the impending end of the world if she, God forbid, became President. Good Lord.

Ignoring your hyperbole, CatWalker...

Ignoring your own hyperbole, CatWalker, it's illogical to say she deserves to be mocked and then allude to those who think she would be a miserable President as less than rational.....

Mocking = one thingComparis

Mocking = one thing

Comparisons to Hitler = a different thing

Did you ask them CatWalker?

Did you ask them if they meant it mockingly, Catwalker?

P.S. does "CatWalking" (I assume it's like DogWalking) pay well?

Okay, shouldn't have assume

Okay, shouldn't have assumed.

I don't walk cats, I herd them. Well, not really. "Cat herding" is an expression... surely you've heard of it.

Just having a little fun, CW

So CatHerder isn't an allusion to your occupation?  Well, mea all to heck culpa!    ;^>

...not only do i have HDS - I

...not only do i have HDS - I like to spread it around...!

...but when she's my president and starts bombing aspirin factories to hide her elicite sexual harrasment of subordinates in the white house - I will then stop with the HDS - for it will be the right thing to do:)...

Hillary Admin. Jobs

"...but when she's my president and starts bombing aspirin factories to hide her elicite sexual harrasment of subordinates in the white house..."

How much do you suppose she'll pay the White House Pool Boy?

Cat herding is an impossible

Cat herding is an impossible task, unless... you know what get's their attention.  Open up a can of food or treat bag and they will follow where ever you go. 

BTW-It is funny to watch a herding type dog with cats, absolutely hilarious, cats go in opposite directions leaving the circling dog barking all over the place, it's the dog that get's herded in the end, LOL.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

CatHerder,Certainly we've hea

CatHerder,

Certainly we've heard of cat herding as an expression....it's been in my profile for well over a year.

If you're going to be throwing around Hillary compliments here, you may have to learn a new skill....lion herding.

Isint "Catherder" a

Isint "Catherder" another name for "Pimp"?

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

I compare her to Eva Peron,

I compare her to Eva Peron, Lady McBeth and Lucretia Borgia. Dreadful woman.

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

The latest Gallup poll indica

The latest Gallup poll indicates that over half of the voters apparently froth at the mouth over Hillary; they say they won't vote for her under any circumstances.   ;-)

}}----> Catherder?

"telling crippled Vietnam vets that they're the reason we lost the war"

I must have missed Ann's remark about Vietnam Vets.  Can you shed some light on this claim?

Lysdexics untie!

Like 10 years ago on MSNBC

Like 10 years ago on MSNBC Newschat, she was talking to a disabled Vietnam vet who made some (ridiculous) statement about land mines... allegedly she didn't know the guy was disabled, but still.

Bobby Muller: In 90 percent of cases that U.S.
soldiers got blown up -- Ann, are you listening? -- they were our own
mines.


Ann Coulter:
No wonder you guys lost.


Bobby Muller:
Say that again,


Felicia Taylor:
OK, we're not going to get into that
conversation. Ann, that was unnecessary. Mr. Muller, please
continue...

".....she was talking to

".....she was talking to a disabled Vietnam vet..."

HaHaHaHa! Nice try Cat! Is this the same Bobby Muller who was a member of the VVAW??  Wasn't Muller instrumental in bringing about Winter Soldier?? Wasn't he once a flack for Kerry, running around Washington accusing real Vietnam vets of commiting atrocities against the Vietnamese --- all the while wearing his stripes,his medals and his uniform as a symbol of infalability??? Please don't make it appear that Ann was knowingly disrespecting your average disabled vet.  Muller had a long, well-known history of leftwing activity and support that continue even today. (He writes for the HuffPo). Ann knew exactly who she was talking to when she made that statement. She was right. And I support her on it despite the way the media, as usual, only reported part of the story.

No, we hear Olbermoron tossin

No, we hear Olbermoron tossing around the word "impeachment" virtually every time he opens his mouth and Frakenfickle saying administration officials should be hanged.

Yeah, Coulter is sooooo much worse...

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

Hillary drives the right wi

Hillary drives the right wild... is one's ability to drive a group wild a positive thing?

"... is one's ability to

"... is one's ability to drive a group wild a positive thing?"

For Marilyn Monroe it was.

Dave HighPlease, take a mom

Dave High

Please, take a moment, if you kindly would, to review the actual comments made by Ms Coulter for yourself in the matters you have cited.

Relying, as you have, solely on the MSM's blatant and malicious obfuscation regarding those matters, obfuscations which were further perpetuated, intentionally and knowingly, by Mrs Edwards (and now again by you), reflects poorly on someone of your obvious intelligence.

As you are a sincere seeker of the complete Truth, discover, for yourself, through a simple search (I used Google quite successfully), what it was Ms Coulter actually said. Be certain to take into consideration all the context surrounding Ms Coulter's words, not the selected bits and pieces as were widely reported by the MSM.

To illustrate how very important it is to verify the veracity of the reporting of the MSM, for yourself, I offer this link (DailyKos), as an illuminating illustration.

Thank you.

}}----> Lynn Davidson's Blog

I caught the Amanda Marcotte story on Lynn Davidson's blog wee this morning and laughed at Liz Edwards' hypocrisy.  Ann Coulter's article this week is especially enlightening as it refleshes the memory on the "Ask me about my dead son" comment and puts it in it's correct context.

John Edwards wants to have it his way, not both ways, or variations thereof.  Most hypocritical was that to win a big malpractice suit John Edwards was actually able to channel a fetus

Waitaminnit?  How can a Democrat channel a blob of flesh that doesn't become human until after it's born?

I must say, though, that's a wonderful defense built around Elizabeth Edwards.  Her husband got all the mileage he could from his son's death during his failed Presidential/Vice Presidential bid.

Let's see, where else can a malpractice lawyer turned Presidential candidate find a sympathy f#(k, er, I mean vote?

I wonder.

Lysdexics untie!

Brent, roses have petals, b

Brent, roses have petals, but bikes have pedals!
JMR

Good catch.

Good catch.

Thanks. BTW I very-much adm

Thanks. BTW I very-much admire the nickname! Required reading, IMO.
JMR

Hypocrisy from the left

According to Elizabeth Edwards, "We have a country that is complacent about the creation of a permanent underclass, largely an underclass of color, while paying lip service to words like equality and opportunity".

True enough.  Let's look at how this attempt to keep this "permanent underclass" permanently under is being orchestrated:

1) Fight any effort to improve schools, particularly inner-city schools.  Reject off-hand any attempt to measure performance, and side with teachers' unions at every turn to block any accountability to actually educate students in these students

2) Do your best to discourage investment in job-creating enterprise by trying to eliminate the tax benefits for those of us who invest in - and thus preserve - the best economy in the world.

3) Empower minority leadership that consistently insists to their audience that by virtue of their minority status, there are no opportunities out there (it's helpful to somehow get the audience to ignore the success of the first-generation Asian immigrants while this is underway, of course).

4) Tout welfare as the ultimate solution to every social ill, thereby virtually ensuring that this "permanent underclass" will never rise its collective head from the trough it's thoroughly dependent on.

Yep, that ought to do it.

This part of her quote caug

This part of her quote caught me:

“A country made great by men and women who
work with their hands now debases and ignores them, and celebrates
instead the investment banker, the money changers,...

But apparently she doesn't have a problem with trial lawyers who use emotional histrionics to manipulate juries into awardint multi-million dollar judgments...they're just good advocates.....

I wonder if the Edwards' &quo

I wonder if the Edwards' "debase" their investment banker?  I see a few "bad luck" trades on the horizon for them.

I hope the banks call in all loans these two have because they no longer care to change money for the Edwards'.

Let's treat the Edwards' as they want others to be treated.

Posted without comment:http:/

Posted without comment:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/28/press-release-by-cl-concerning-brent-bozells-attack-on-elizabeth-edwards

Nevermind the death threats and denial-of service attacks Melissia suffered. So much for compassionate conservatism...

Uzumaki/Ayanami '08. Because a ninja and an Eva pilot can govern the nation better that what we have now...

What strikes me as funny is t

What strikes me as funny is that Brent’s article was greeted on this site with comments such as, “another wonderful article” and “great research.”  It doesn’t seem to matter a whit to our conservative friends that the premise of Brent’s piece, that Elizabeth Edwards’ speech is more hateful and vile than Foul-Mouth Annie’s gutter talk, is utterly ridiculous, childish, and quite frankly, a poorly manufactured spin-dried lie.  Conservatives just don’t seem to get it.  You can’t just say it is so and make it so.  Last summer when GWB told us all he was immersed in reading Shakespeare and Camus, did anybody, I mean anybody, actually believe it?  Does anybody actually believe that Brent’s “great research”  actually reveals Elizabeth Edwards to be more mean-spirited than Ann Coulter?  Give me a break.

Regards, Dave High

Another pointless rant from Dave High

Haha.   You're funny, Dave High.   

You post that "you can't just say it is so and make it so"  and then you do exactly what you accuse Brent of doing....

But, unlike you, Brent used specifics....quotes and statements that back up his post.   Let's see you do the same to refute him.....

Regards,

RJ

I found Brent's use of "

I found Brent's use of "quotes and statements" a complete stretch of human reason.  I found his premise ridiculous.  For whatever reason, conservatives have found the “swift-boating” style of political discourse acceptable.  I suspect this is because it is effective in swaying voters, even though it is despicable and dishonest at the core.  What “facts” would you like?  That Elizabeth Edwards is an honest, caring person who simply asked, I repeat asked, Ann to stop with the personal, pointless attacks?  These are the facts, Jack.  It is also a fact that comparing Elizabeth Edwards to Ann Coulter as equal purveyors of hate speech is intellectually dishonest.  Enough said.

Regards, Dave High

That's just more generalities, Dave High

That's just more generalities, Dave High.  You can't handle specifics to refute Brent, can you?

Regards

RJ

Brent opines:  “What of th

Brent opines:  “What of the person who suggested America is a country that is not only obsessed with wealth, it criminally neglects the poor, and that racism was part of that cruel formula? “We have a country that is complacent about the creation of a permanent underclass, largely an underclass of color, while paying lip service to words like equality and opportunity.”

Anyone who resents an association, direct or otherwise, with policies that acquiesce to racism would find those words hateful and ugly, to say the least. OK, so who said them? Elizabeth Edwards, meet Elizabeth Edwards.”

Okay, RJ.  Apparently it is Brent’s studied opinion that racism doesn’t exist and therefore refering to racism and the creation of a permanent underclass in this country is “hateful and ugly.”  Is he out of his mind?  Please note however that all he has actually done in this instance is take a one-sentence quote from Elizabeth Edwards, applied his own spin to it and has labelled her sentiments “hateful and ugly.”  I assume he means as “hateful and ugly” as Ann Coulter calling people “faggots” and wishing them dead and mocking families who lost their fathers on 9/11, or abusing the Edwards family on the death of their 16-year-old boy in a car crash. How is one level of speech as hateful as the other?  Isn’t this a complete stretch of reason?  Isn’t it a total fabrication?  Isn’t it an out-right “swift boating” lie?  I report, you decide.  Case closed.

Regards, Dave High

 

Cat got your tongue, RJ?  I

Cat got your tongue, RJ?  I think the big man himself should come to the defense of his own twisted reasoning.  Although it’s not Friday Night, on the eve of the Fourth of July, let’s have at it!  Let Freedom Ring, Let the White Dove Sing!  Whatever!

 

Regards, Dave High

PS – Gotta’ get some ping pong balls for the kids.  Brent collect your thoughts, such as they are, and let’s hash this one out.  I really want to understand how you have come to the conclusion that Elizabeth Edwards is as hateful and vile as Foul-Mouth Annie.  As I said earlier, saying it is so doesn’t make it so. 

 

Since I don't see his name

Since I don't see his name under the on-line user's list, I presume he isn't logged on.

If he isn't yet bored with embarassing you, maybe he'll come back and smack you down some more.

Ta ta troll !

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

Oh, well.  This turned out a

Oh, well.  This turned out as I had expected.  It is one thing to write nonsense for an approving audience of fin-slapping seals.  It is quite another to defend such nonsense in front of said seals when your challenger has already shown you to be intellectually dishonest in your premise and supporting arguments.  May you all go to bed tonight doing the happy slap with the strangely successful Brent Bozell over his swift boater brain fart that Elizabeth Edwards is as vile in her speech as Foul-Mouth Annie. 

Regretfully, Dave High

 

Seals are more intelligent th

Seals are more intelligent than a brainwashed watcher of the MSM? I had no idea.

Someone from the conservative

Someone from the conservative side always has to have the last word.  Given Brent's original post, I guess your vacuous remark is appropriate enough.

Regards, such as they are, Dave High

Dave, if you don't mind an ob

Dave, if you don't mind an observation, someone asked you for some facts to back up your personal opinions.  As it stands, you've yet to provide any.

Rather than making specious remarks about seals, you might want to answer the original request made of you.  Just a thought.

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport.com

Yeah, too bad you don't have

Yeah, too bad you don't have anything factual to say.

Dave HighDo you actually be

Dave High

Do you actually believe Elizabeth Edwards just happened to call into MSNBC to talk to Ann Coulter?

It was nothing but another hit and run attack facilitated by a so called MSM journalist. Chris Matthews lost any credibility of being anything but a DNC operator masquerading as a journalist long ago.

Do you think anyone here takes you seriously when all you make is accusations bereft of any factual underpinnings that would support your arguments?

When you come down from on high let us know, until then you have once again demonstrated your ignorance.

Brent Bozell has nothing to worry about when you enter the fray, as you have nothing in your quiver but invective and personal attacks.

Is this Mexico or the USA

My, my, dave high. Don't be so impatient.

My, my, dave high.  I've been away, but you shouldn't be so impatient to be slapped down again.....and when I think of the many, many times you've disappeared from challenges to your posts, it makes me chuckle.

In any event, I asked you for specific refutations of Brent's column, but once again, you've only managed to present the same kind of shallow, phony indignation as Elizabeth Edwards.....which is, I suppose, appropriate.    

I laughed out loud at your usage of a single sentence from the column, even as you complained that Brent used a single sentence.    That makes the second time in this small thread that you've exhibited absolutely no self-awareness, as you complained of others doing exactly what you do.....

Y'know, another poster said that you used to at least present a little more challenge in your posts, and I agree.  

Regards,

RJ

I wonder what's worse - being

I wonder what's worse - being vile with the truth or pleasant with lies??? What do you think Davey?

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

I've re-read Bozell's article

I've re-read Bozell's article twice, and nowhere do I find him equating Elizabeth Edwards' quotes with Coulters'.  What he clearly points out is that Coulter comes under regular attack from the MSM, while that same MSM is silent when Ms. Edwards says what she has, or hires the vile bloggers for her husband's campaign website.

And as been documented thoroughly and frequently on NB, this is the status quo. 

I don't want to be a regular member

I don't want to be a regular member -of the Saint Elizabeth debating committee. I will say this once and be done with it. Dave High as time goes by, if you are intellectually honest with yourself, you will see that she is as cunning and sly as Hillary Clinton. She is no innocent. She is the driving force behind the campaign for the presidency. She has more cojones than John.

There , I said . I'm done. Now let time show the proof.

No, he's not funny. He's piti

No, he's not funny. He's pitiful. When facts hurt, spin them. Divert attention. Call people names. Whatever it takes.

Like his references rebuttal of Bozell, these lines jumped out at me:

Brent Bozell should look close to home when he defends the vile Ann Coulter, who as we all know, speaks for Republicans. - I don't remember voting for Coulter, or anyone for that matter, to "speak for Republicans". I believe she speaks for herself and her principles.

The Republicans can’t compete in a creative environment so they try to stop free expression, and then accuse us of what they’re always doing. - Reverse the parties involved here, and it is word-for-word the liberal justification for trying to re-enact the so called "Fairness Doctrine". I don't recall any conservatives driving Air America out of business. They did it all to themselves. Just as the NYT, Boston Globe and their ilk are doing to themselves.

Brent Bozell’s attack on John’s wife is just another example of conservative whining that has no basis in facts. - Bozell's column seemed to me to reference easily researched PUBLIC STATEMENTS MADE BY LIZZY EDWARDS. Show me one misquote in this column. Just one. Unlike the MSM "quotes" of Coulter's comments, where they cherry picked the audio and video ala Mikey Moore to make it say what they wanted it to.

If this is what High Dave is defending, then the argument is already over. Obviously a concensus has been reached and the debate is over. It's the Liberal way...

The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers

"The Republicans can’t

"The Republicans can’t compete in a creative environment so they try to stop free expression, and then accuse us of what they’re always doing."

HUH?

John Amato is sorely confused.  The whole hype from Liberals to bring back the Fairness Doctrine is because the Liberals cannot compete in talk radio.  I guess TV and Newspapers are not enough fealty for the elite effete.

Also, Amato completely misses the mark concerning Mz. Edwards complete reasons for confronting Coulter on Hardball.  While asking for a more civil discourse is perfectly acceptable and reasonable, using the confrontational and somewhat guerilla tactic as she did to make her point does beg the question of personal gain beyond the desire for a more gentile discourse.  Edwards could have made her request to Coulter privately, in person or in writing.  Edwards did appear to be hamming it up a bit, or Chris Matthews just let her speak interrupted such that it seemed that way for a guest on his show, knowing full well the sympathy factor and exposure would surely help raise money for her husband.  That's politics but it is disingenious to use a public forum for requesting civility in order to curry money and votes. 

StratM, Good point about guer

StratM, Good point about guerilla tactics. "Liz" could have approached this in many different ways, but she chose the one offering her the most protection. I've noticed that this is the tactic chosen by cowards -- people who are afraid of the competition; people who know they can't carry forth an argument on equal terms; and frankly, people who can't defend their positions.

What do you think the chances are that "Liz" could answer the questions now being raised regarding her role in the hiring of those hateful bloggers? I'd like to see Ann and "Liz" do a re-match; one that is scheduled in advance, and one on a more fair and balanced platform.

Besides, I hate it when "Liz" tries to hide behind the skirts of her husband.

Using Hardball as the forum f

Using Hardball as the forum for her "request" virtually assured Mz. Edwards a win-win situation.  If Coulter agreed then the Edwards look like model statesmen in getting the "evil" conservative to come to their "senses".  If Coulter disagreed then the Edwards look like they were correct and were unfairly attacked.  The Edwards', and I include both of them, calculated that Coulter would respond with something that they could use to muster more money and votes.  As predicted, the result was a winfall for the Edwards.

The only way Mz. Edwards could have "lost" was if Chris Matthews were to ask the "hard" questions of Mz. Edwards, like the Edwards' bloggers, her husband's channeling the dead, Edwards stating he wouldn't talk about his dead son and then proceeding to talk about his dead son for political gain, etc..  Of course, Mz. Edwards knew Matthews would never question the elite effete, especially when he wants Republicans to lose.

I'd also like to see a "re-match", a "thrilla with the vanilla" unscripted debate with no interviewer safety net.  Heck, I'd like to see any Liberal go up against Coulter.  SAdly that won't happen unless the Left has the "fix in". 

Mrs. Edwards, we hope and pr

Mrs. Edwards, we hope and pray you're successful in your battle with cancer.

Perhaps you should focus some rage on that?

--Mike

www.thebrattonreport.com

Bill O'reilly invited her on

Bill O'reilly invited her on his show. He wanted to debate the hateful dialogue of the left and right. After all, Mrs.Edwards wanted to end this hateful talk by everyone on both sides.She would also be on a show watched by 10 times as many people than Hardball.But for some strange reason she said No.Makes one wonder if she really cares at all about this hate talk and was just getting her hubby some exposure.  Or could it be she may have had to answer a few of the questions Mr.Bozell posed?After all Hardball is more like Softball for Dems.

Oh, way to freeze replies so

Oh, way to freeze replies so you could get the last word, Dave High!  How mature is that???