CNN: Conservatives Will Be 'Angry' Over Commutation, GOP Double Standard re: Clinton

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With “Angry Reaction” on screen, CNN's Suzanne Malveaux opened the 7pm EDT hour of The Situation Room by asking if on the Libby commutation: “Are conservatives as angry as Democrats?” Toward the end of the hour, Malveaux, filling in for Wolf Blitzer, cued up ex-Clinton operative Paul Begala: “President Clinton was impeached for lying before a grand jury. What do you think? What do you make of this? Does this smack of a double standard?” Malveaux announced at the top of the program: “Spared from prison, President Bush commutes the sentence of former White House aide Lewis 'Scooter' Libby. Tonight, the breaking news and the reaction. Are conservatives as angry as Democrats?”

Analyst Bill Schneider soon echoed her theme: “There's going to be a lot of anger out there. I don't think it's going to be restricted simply to Democrats. Independents and some Republicans are going to be angry and it's going to feed into the anger at Washington that seems to be poisoning the mood of the country.” As for the idea “this would be popular with the base,” Schneider opined: “I'm dubious about that.” Referring to a CNN poll, Schneider argued that “when you have only 19 percent who would support a pardon...I'm not sure that I would say that this could have any positive repercussions for the President.” Malveaux, who seconds earlier cued up Begala with a liberal talking point about a Republican double standard, confronted Republican strategist John Feehery: “Does it cut two ways here? We've heard Bill Schneider saying he doesn't really think this is going to play out much in a partisan way. He believes that there are going to be a lot of Republicans who see it the same way as Democrats and say, you know, this is just preferential treatment.”

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Transcripts of some segments from the 7pm EDT hour of the July 2 The Situation Room on CNN:

About 20 minutes into the hour:

BILL SCHNEIDER: There's going to be a lot of anger out there. I don't think it's going to be restricted simply to Democrats. Independents and some Republicans are going to be angry and it's going to feed into the anger at Washington that seems to be poisoning the mood of the country and informing everything happening in the campaign so far. Americans are very resentful over the fact that someone who was convicted of a serious crime for which many, many other people are in jail right now, had his sentence commuted and will not go to jail. That's the important thing. Will not go to jail, because he has friends in high places. That's exactly what enrages people about business in Washington.

MALVEAUX: So what's the political calculus here? The fact that he's got approval ratings that are under 30 percent now, below the freezing level that it doesn't make any difference at all what he does? He might as well just go for it and commute the sentence?

SCHNEIDER: Well, it may be a calculation that conservatives want this to happen. There's been a lot of pressure on the White House from conservatives in Washington. Some of the presidential candidates said they favor the pardon. And that, therefore, the President could solidify his support in his base, that this would be popular with the base. Maybe it will be. I'm dubious about that. I don't know. But when you have only 19 percent who would support a pardon, that's not a commutation, it's a pardon, but I'm not sure many people will see a big difference. The important thing is staying out of jail. I'm not sure that I would say that this could have any positive repercussions for the President.

Approximately 54 minutes into the hour:

MALVEAUX TO PAUL BEGALA (on phone): President Bush was impeached for lying before -- before -- I'm sorry, President Clinton was impeached for lying before a grand jury. What do you think? What do you make of this? Does this smack of a double standard?

BEGALA: “Well, of course it's a double standard. President Clinton was found not guilty by a Republican-controlled Senate. Not guilty. Mr. Libby was found guilty, in a case brought by a Republican prosecutor and heard before a Republican judge. Mr. Libby was found guilty. He was found guilty of four felonies. Now, the President has an untrammeled right to commute that sentence, well within his power to do so. But I think he's gonna pay an enormous price in terms of his credibility and his legacy. The notion that is going to take hold I think out there in the country is that there's a double standard that some of the other commentators referred to. That George Bush is only compassionate when it comes to conservatives.

MALVEAUX TO REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST JOHN FEEHERY (on phone): John, does it cut two ways here? We've heard Bill Schneider saying he doesn't really think this is going to play out much in a partisan way. He believes that there are going to be a lot of Republicans who see it the same way as Democrats and say, you know, this is just preferential treatment.

—Brent Baker is Vice President for Research and Publications at the Media Research Center


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The only angry people out the

The only angry people out there are going to be democrats and liberals. Those of us who know the whole trial was a sham in the first place will be relieved that justice was finally done. These people are really amazing. They live in a virtual bubble.

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"We can only reason from what is; we can reason on actualities, but not on possibilities." ~ Thomas Paine

Let's reverse the OJ decision now!

Next, let's reverse the OJ decision and send him to jail!

Yep, CNN's right! I'm pissed

Yep, CNN's right!

 I'm pissed because Bush didn't give Libby a full, slap in the face pardon.

 "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "

                   - Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.

Bill certainly was handy with

Bill certainly was handy with a few  (many) questionable pardons, but that is not his legacy. ( I think that we all know what is) The difference is that it is unlikely that anyone in the Bush family got paid for this pardon.

Here is a list of the Clint

Here is a list of the Clinton pardons.

You will need a few hours to read it all.

D


I don't support our liberals or their mission.

The interesting thing to me

The interesting thing to me is that Mr. Libby got mentioned before he became well known outside DC by Clinton in his reasoning for pardoning Mark Rich, the most-controversial pardon of his Presidency.
JMR

Somebody Help me out here

Somebody Help me out here?

Clinton never served a day in Prison, he was Impeached yes, but didn't go to jail.

Libby was convicted, YES, and did serve some time didn't he?

What's the diff?

Douglass

Has anybody taken a look at this link? OMG, what was Clinton's deal with pardoning drug dealers?

http://www.usdoj.gov/pardon/clintonpardon_grants.htm

Didn't Inhale?

Makes you wonder about the not inhaling part?

Build The Fence

Dems acquitted Clinton, not Republicans

Begala:  “Well, of course it's a double standard. President Clinton was found not guilty by a Republican-controlled Senate. Not guilty."

Don't pin it on the Republicans, Paul.  Although a couple RINO's voted to acquit, most voted "guilty".  On the other hand, every single Democrat ignored an open-and-shut case and voted to acquit.  And since it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict, all it took was 34 Dems to block conviction.  The Founders intended to make it difficult to remove a President through impeachment, but if Clinton couldn't be convicted, probably no one can.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

Paul Begala says....

Paul Begala...

Republicans loved Bill Clinton and thought he was the Greatest President Ever...

Yeah that's it, The Greatest

Republicans hate Libby, he's a liar,,, yeah, A liar....

Are you sure that wasn't Jon Lovitz.?

That Bill Schneider has survi

That Bill Schneider has survived as long as he has at CNN in his guru role tells one more than one wishes one knew about CNN’s corruption. One cannot imagine a conservative angry that Scooter Libby’s sentence was commuted, but surely many are upset that he was not also pardoned. The alleged perjury rested on conflicting memories of a conversation: he said, he said. One needed only to hear a juror, doubtless a partisan Democrat, wail after verdict that no one more powerful was in the dock to realize that Mr. Libby’s was a political crime--in the eyes of Democrats. So, with no exceptions, conservatives considered he was nailed in a partisan effort to harm the government for sins against the left, real and imagined.

Further, Mr. Libby has had a distinguished professional career; even assuming the truth of the charges on which, apparently, a partisan D.C. jury convicted him, perjury and obstruction of justice do not characterize his career nor has he committed any other alleged crime. He will still have to pay $250,000 and stay on probation for two years. Anyone wanna bet against this: a condition of that probation will prevent Mr. Libby from writing a book about the case and his experience, on the dubious grounds that he would thus benefit from his “crime”? (I don’t like scare quotes, but they fit here.)

Several people without a clue about news and its practice at Fox News have criticized it for somehow violating journalism’s practices. They consistently have not cited specifics; they likely confused a news-related opinion program like the O’Reilly Factor with actual news reports. I wish someone would contrast Mr. Schneider’s analysis with the straight news report of Jim Angle on the Libby commutation on the Special Report with Brit Hume, an hour before the Malveaux-Schneider colloquy. The program did have analysis, with its usual panel, but no panelist sank to Mr. Schneider’s low level of foolish conjecture, where he projected his own partisan reaction onto others.

And I'd like to see the poll he cited. What questions were asked? Of whom? What did they know about the Libby case and how did they know it? When someone like Schneider cites a poll to make a point, beware.

You're dxmn right I'm angry!

Angry?

You're dxmn right I'm angry! Why didn't bush do this sooner? ;-)

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Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

Asking Begala and Scheider ho

Asking Begala and Scheider how Republicans feel ... is like asking the Iranians how the Israelis are going to feel.

 

 

botg:absolutely the best comm

botg:

absolutely the best comment seen here in years.

C

Why be angry

Other presidents have done same.  Why be angry?  Here's Pres Clinton's list: http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/pardons6b.htm Bet we'll never hear or see this in MSM! 

Good ole begala - he forgets

Good ole begala - he forgets that clinton admitted he lied - selective memory. - and why are the demolibs sooo concerned with legacy?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

i thought that remaining out

i thought that remaining out on bail was only a matter of motion with appeals pending.

why didn't this judge grant libby's motion in this case? its not as if the guy was a flight risk was it?

C

Because his motives are polit

Because his motives are political.

where will libby go to get hi

where will libby go to get his reputation back?

C

Regarding Begala's observatio

Regarding Begala's observations, Libby's commutation will have absolutely no impact on Bush's legacy, which will rest on (1) the war in Iraq, (2) security at home, and (3) the economy.

Regarding Schneider's analysis of the long term effects, Schneider needs to get outside the Beltway more.  Americans don't care about Libby; they don't even know what he was convicted of.  They know more about Paris Hilton.