Newsweek has the answer … in a quiz befitting Cosmo magazine it asked its readers “Which of these is not causing global warming today?
A) Sport Utility Vehicles
B) Rice Fields
C) Increased Solar Output
If you guessed C) Increased Solar Output you’d be right, according to the magazine. It seems the sun is off the hook for global warming, which is largely the fault of mankind according to co-authors Sharon Begley and Andrew Murr.
“Extremely warm summers, such as the 2003 European heat wave that killed thousands of people? A human fingerprint. Glacial retreat? Ditto, though it is partly natural. Stronger tropical storms, such as Katrina? Possibly our fault, though on this one the evidence is murkier. Heavy precipitation that alternates with dry spells, so that when it rains it pours? That also conforms to models of man-made climate change,” wrote Newsweek.
Begley and Murr pointed to the February 2007 IPCC report and quoted five scientists who agree that climate change is the fault of mankind, but didn’t include a single critic or opposing argument in the nearly three-page long July 9 article.
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July 2, 2007 - 15:17 ET by PolazerusI do believe they forgot to do ANY research on the subject. Check out Richard Lindzen's Article on the matter. Good read.
BBC Poll Shows "Scepticism"
July 3, 2007 - 07:57 ET by ecnirPYou might also find the story about a BBC poll interesting, especially since it shows people consider dog poop a bigger concern than global warming:
"'Scepticism' over climate claims"
And they just can't get away from those scare quotes, can they? Scepticism is scare-quoted, even though that is precisely what their survey found...scepticism!
The survey shows that people find the climate change impacts over-hyped, so we all know what that means. Liberals are going to have to ratchet up the hype to get these peoples' heads straight. Delicious! And how do people get the idea that this is over-hyped? Let's look at the headlines accompanying the story at the BBC website:
"Billions face climate change risk"
"Stark picture of warming world"
Pretty temperate, eh?
So using that logic ... I can
July 2, 2007 - 15:26 ET by drillanwrSo using that logic ... I can turn up my furnace as high as I want and it won't effect the temp in my house ...
Next on their agenda? Informing everyone that anything they ever learned in a science class was all wrong.
liberal science
July 2, 2007 - 15:48 ET by LionKingI am sure everyone is at least familiar with the term, scientific method. The problem is that liberals have adopted their own version of the scientific method.
For example, instead of comparing macro-evolution and intelligent design on the merits of their science, liberals would rather exclude ID from the discussion. Likewise, assuming that the climate is in fact warmer ( this is still open for discussion), why not consider the one thing that is responsible for ALL of the earth's warming...THE SUN.
drillanwr,No !no ..turning
July 3, 2007 - 03:20 ET by upcountrywaterdrillanwr,
No !no ..turning up your furance, will increase COOLING in your home! The "new" thermodynamics @ gorbacle. al
Climate change ......no if'ss ands or butts
IRANIAN URANIMUN, 220 lbs and counting.
This is such f***ing B.S. T
July 2, 2007 - 15:26 ET by jpatchThis is such f***ing B.S.
The Sun is a giant hydrogen bomb in a perpetual-state of exploding that is responsible for warming the earth, creating photosynthesis, keeping the earth in orbit, and has a trillion other impacts on everything in our solar system. Ya know? The SOLAR system?? That would be, a system of planets and celestial objects that revolve around a central star, known as our sun.
Seriously, how much more blatent can these liberal publications get? Why don't they just say what they mean: "So, you think the sun, or some other natural force may be at work in changing our planet's weather?? Well, think again, because you're WRONG."
Yeah, let's try convincing th
July 2, 2007 - 15:33 ET by drillanwrYeah, let's try convincing the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan our two atom bombs didn't heat up those two cities, ignite the air and anything that didn't light, melt, or cook to death became vapor ...
These people really are beyond logic and reason and have crossed completely over into warped fiction. I mean, even most fiction is based in reality ... Not these dim bulbs.
The thing that amazes me, a
July 2, 2007 - 15:36 ET by sarcasmoThe thing that amazes me, as an amateur scientist, is this idea that the Earth's climate should not change from how it is right-now. Another amazing idea is the one which assumes the gigantic perpetual H-bomb reaction-system is somehow free from even any slight fluctuations which, given its great size relative to that of the Earth, would have to affect our climate. I'm amazed it's stayed as stable as it is for as long as it has, but cyclical sunspot activity tells us it's NOT an entirely-stable system.
JMR
Sarcasmo,I think I have disag
July 2, 2007 - 16:01 ET by jpatchSarcasmo,
I think I have disagreed with a lot of stuff that you have posted in the past, but I really like this post here.
Beside all of Al Gore's personal issues (bitterness, jealousy, greed), isn't this whole AGW campaign a viciously salient example of the amount of hubris that is employed in politics these days? I mean, think about it. These people are taking a subject like global climate change, and instantly attributing it to humans (hence, anthropomophic GW). How big and mighty do these people think we are? And at the same time, with a single flick of the wrist at the keyboard, they pompously state that the sun has no influence on our weather here.
Lord knows that humans can and have influenced everything on earth, from atoms to mountains. The human factor in climate change should not be ignored - however, as someone said above, what the h*ll happened to the scientific method? We need to start looking at things from a macro-level first, and then work down to our level. Starting this debate with the Kyoto Protocol or with Carbon Credits is not only a sham, it's a slap in the face to any intelligent person that understands science.
Since the first thing human
July 2, 2007 - 16:19 ET by sarcasmoSince the first thing humans worshipped was no-doubt the Sun, it's intersting that you used the term "hubris," but I think it fits here perfectly -- especially in light of the evidence being ignored from Mars to Titan & beyond. And check out the links in this post for an eye opener the news media wants everyone to ignore.
JMR
It's called the dumbing down
July 2, 2007 - 15:45 ET by vrwc13It's called the dumbing down of our society....public schools and the liberal/socialist agenda have been at work for decades. Take The former USSR for instance (I spent a year there not too long ago, so I have first hand experience of the results). They took the children from the home at an early age and indoctrinated them into communism. The result is that there are people in Russia today that still believe the stuff they were "taught".
One example is that a grown man, sucsessful in Russian terms took some of out to a Russian forest and asked "Do you have trees like this in America?" He was serious. Thought the U.S. was a combination of "Escape from New York" and "F Troop".
Now we have the lib/socialist/secular humanist agenda at work here. Taking kids from the home - preschool through public school and away from home and faith. Remember "It Takes a Village". Scary thing is there are a lot of people out there that probably agree with the Newsweak article.
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
Most of these morons would mi
July 2, 2007 - 16:11 ET by Ruths husband BenMost of these morons would miss the following question:
If the sun was removed from our solar system, it would:
a) cause the Earth to rapidly get cooler;
b) cause the Earth to rapidly get warmer;
c) be Bush's fault.
it depends
July 2, 2007 - 16:17 ET by LionKingIt really depends on how the Sun was removed...if it NOVA'd, it might get a tad warm...just before we were disintegrated.
d) Found on E-bay the next da
July 2, 2007 - 18:22 ET by Mica the Magnificentd) Be found on e-bay the next day
What in the world are they
July 2, 2007 - 15:32 ET by AJSHOPEWhat in the world are they smoking? There have been numerous articles that just Rush has read from astronomists saying that the sun is hotter now than in the past. Of all people, I would think astronomists would know how to read a star.
On a local show here in Columbus, Ohio the Internet Skeptic was on and he was saying that there was a chart of different causes of global warming and a number representing how much the scientists knew about that cause and these scientists actually admitted that they knew pretty much nothing about the sun as a cause for global warming.
How can you not know about the sun as it relates to global warming, when it's the sun that causes any warming at all?
Hey there AJSHOPE...I'm in Ne
July 2, 2007 - 15:49 ET by jpatchHey there AJSHOPE...
I'm in New York City now, but I am a graduate of The Ohio State U. Good to hear that people in Columbus are keeping up on things. But you said exactly what the point of all of this AGW nonsense should be. The most important factor in the formation of the climate on earth is the sun, and yet it is the least understood. That should be the jumping off point for the great AGW debate. NOT declaring scientific consensus' that don't exist, NOT telling people that the earth is going to die and that we're responsible, NOT trying to steal money from people based upon personal political ambition and greed.
Yeah, in fact, if you check
July 2, 2007 - 16:00 ET by AJSHOPEYeah, in fact, if you check out the Internet Skeptic you'll see a bunch of powerpoint presentations that he gives to groups across the country. The very first one is the presentation he made on the radio. The funny thing is that he's not a scientist and all he does is use the scientific methods and theories that the scientists themselves have used and stated as science before all of this global warming alarmism started. So he uses their own science against them to show how wrong they are.
Liberals have trouble with &q
July 2, 2007 - 23:40 ET by Seabeach4348Liberals have trouble with "the facts" and the truth. Now you want to confuse them even more with real hard science by throwing in that the sun has the ability to heat up the planet?
And, since the present climate is so rotten and going to get worse that we're teetering on impending doom ( just look at the furrows in Jim Cantore's brow next time you tune into Weather Channel) according to the fruitcakes, just when was the climate "just right" ? I'd really like to know.
I'd paper a bird cage with
July 2, 2007 - 15:41 ET by dabalI'd paper a bird cage with newswreck, but it might make the bird go nuts.
A lie.
July 2, 2007 - 15:52 ET by Blogger Guy00001Obviously a lie. Increased solar output IS the main cause of the increase in temperature.
Hey, you know what else isn't
July 2, 2007 - 15:57 ET by Ruths husband BenHey, you know what else isn't causing global warming? Begley and Murr's critical thinking skills! I think if we could somehow harness their collective brainpower, we might be able to toast a slice of bread (albeit lightly).
"Heavy precipitation t
July 2, 2007 - 16:04 ET by NetizenCain"Heavy precipitation that alternates with dry spells, so that when it rains it pours?"
Ya... and how about it snowing in some months but then long periods without snow seem to follow? Then all of a sudden a few months later... BAM, more snow!
I been doing my cyphering o
July 2, 2007 - 16:08 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsI been doing my cyphering on this and have come to the conclusion that Al Gore's internet is behind this krazy global warming thingie.
I mean, look at all them folks sitting there IM-ing and playing online games and such.
Those there internet computers are throwing heat all over the place.
If they would just turn off that internet at night when folks go home, problem solved!!
D
I don't support our liberals or their mission.
Which of the following do S
July 2, 2007 - 16:15 ET by marvlWhich of the following do Sharon Begley and Andrew Murr possess?
(A) Scientific credentials
(B) The ability to perform basic research
(C) An industrial grade vacuum between their ears
The answer, of course, is (C)
SUV UFOs or Martian plant life?
July 2, 2007 - 16:19 ET by habbyguySince solar radiation has nothing to do with global warming on Earth, I find myself wondering... is it SUVs or rice fields that's causing the Martian poles to melt. Seems like either one would have made the news, huh?
habbyThe warming on Mars is c
July 2, 2007 - 17:17 ET by botghabby
The warming on Mars is caused by the two rovers (Land & Range) so the answer would be SUVs
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Both. And it's Bush's fault
July 2, 2007 - 23:44 ET by Seabeach4348Both. And it's Bush's fault too.
“Extremely warm summers, su
July 2, 2007 - 17:24 ET by amber“Extremely warm summers, such as the 2003 European heat wave that killed thousands of people?"
I am really confused. Did it reach 150 degrees F there or something? People have lived in much higher temps without AC. Did they forget to drink water, or were they afraid to do so because of high concentrations of di-hydrogen monoxide in water? Unless someone tossed them in an oven I have a hard time believing they died because of the heat. It was stupidity, not the heat.
Didn't NASA recently release some information on atmospheric tems lately that said since the 70's, when they started recording data, the atmosphere has not warmed at all?
I made this point when it hap
July 2, 2007 - 21:19 ET by Iron LadyI made this point when it happened - that I had huge doubts about the numbers. A woman on one of my favorite boards was irate with me - she was living in France and maintained the numbers were real. She claimed it was getting 111 degrees, but I think her conversions were wrong because the highest temperature I could find listed was about 103. As you say - well within the bounds of human tolerance. Heck, I lived with those kinds of temps every summer as a child with no air conditioning or swamp coolers. I have a friend whose daughter is living in the Arizona desert where it routinely gets to 120 - and they have no AC either.
I investigated further - and got some response from my friend. Evidently, almost all these people died in nursing homes, long-term care facilities, or were elderly people living alone = and they died of dehydration. The deaths were during summer vacations (they get months of vacation yearly), and families were off on vacation and not checking on their family members. There were comments at the time about how callous it was that people - hearing the problems, still didn't return home to check on loved ones. Not sure how true that is.
I do know that the lawsuits against the nursing homes/etc would have stopped that from happening again. Of course - they have socialized medicine, right? Probably another "benefit" of that system.
Iron Lady,What I am understan
July 2, 2007 - 21:28 ET by BlondeIron Lady,
What I am understanding from your post is that the "wonderful French socialistic model of health care" is that, when it's summer, all of the nurses and doctors bail and head for the Riviera.
I remember this story, and wondered why so many elderly people died. The media made it sound like they died from a lack of air-conditioning. Which, when if one thinks about it, is absurd.
It is sickening to think that they died of dehydration. Elderly people don't die from being warm, they die of dehydration!
That is abuse of the first sort. And if it is indicative of "socialized healthcare"....a la Hillary Village Clinton....I want nothing to do with it.
But your post makes the most sense of anything I've read to date about this incident, so thanks.
Regardless of how they die, t
July 2, 2007 - 21:44 ET by CapitalismRulesRegardless of how they die, the media will always take a tragic issue like neglect or incompetence and spin it into this major political drama when in reality the human component that needs to really be dealt with is right in front of their noses.
Cap,That's true. But I reme
July 2, 2007 - 21:51 ET by BlondeCap,
That's true. But I remember this story (and this was before I became a regular NB reader). I just thought all of these poor elderly people died!
Never did I suspect that they died of dehydration....from being left alone while all of the socialists francaise were on the beach in their bikinis!
Now I'm a tad older, and wiser, and understand a whole lot more about media bias.
But Hillary wants us all to steam in our apartments until the big Guv runs in to save us. Just like in New Orleans. Oh, don't even get me started.
Well, ya know that's just the
July 2, 2007 - 21:57 ET by CapitalismRulesWell, ya know that's just the liberal mantra.....victimize as many as possible into a false sense that only the government can solve your issues and then you become a slave to their policies. But it starts with things like these type of "environmental" tragedies and then worms their way into things like your pocketbook.
Which, CR, is exactly why 'pe
July 2, 2007 - 22:01 ET by botgWhich, CR, is exactly why 'personal responsibility' is not spoken in lib circles because responsible people don't need a savior.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
Right, so the libs prey on th
July 2, 2007 - 22:11 ET by CapitalismRulesRight, so the libs prey on those who can't take physical responsibility for themselves i.e. the elderly. If personal responsibility was the order of the day, there would be no need for liberals of the democratic party in general. Now, you and I know that we are responsible for ourselves and our own success or failure, but those in the media will always perpetuate te myth that govt. has this divine ordination to "take care" of you.
Because it makes them 'feel'
July 2, 2007 - 22:22 ET by botgBecause it makes them 'feel' good about themselves to be the savior, nevermind that it's not saving it's enabling and the end result is that group they save ends up worse off.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
The Answer is "D: LIber
July 2, 2007 - 17:55 ET by Gat New YorkThe Answer is "D: Liberal Hot Air Windbags."
Here you go. Take this test
July 2, 2007 - 18:09 ET by drillanwrHere you go. Take this test. I got 100% correct.
Take the
GLOBAL WARMING TESThttp://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html
drill...I need to go back to
July 2, 2007 - 18:18 ET by Clear thinkerdrill...
I need to go back to school. I got one wrong.
The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.
Aw crud, so did I. Which one
July 2, 2007 - 20:49 ET by liberal_bug_zapperAw crud, so did I. Which one did you get wrong? I got the last one wrong. I knew that Satellites were having some issues with accurate measurements at one time, and I also knew that ground based stations are not reliable due to ignoramus factors... so I picked weather balloons... dang.
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"We can only reason from what is; we can reason on actualities, but not on possibilities." ~ Thomas Paine
Q #1Weird! we are all being
July 2, 2007 - 23:53 ET by acadia1755Q #1
Weird! we are all being told that the world as been cooling since 1998. :-)
The Liberals have become what they hate.
Is this magazine still for sa
July 2, 2007 - 19:14 ET by ThisnThatIs this magazine still for sale? Does anybody buy it? Does it come in a brown paper bag?
There needs to be a warning on the cover: "WARNING: All contributers have lost their minds, their common sense, and human qualities. Everything printed herein is simply gibberish, which you won't understand (in fact, you will be astounded that we could even put it down on paper) and reading the contents could be hazardous to your mental health".
It just comes naturally
July 2, 2007 - 22:17 ET by nkviking75I'm still waiting for them to explain how the Midwest, where I live, ever got out from under the glaciers when human technology didn't even exist then. Either there never were glaciers here, or the earth naturally warms and cools.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Wasn't there also something c
July 2, 2007 - 22:24 ET by botgWasn't there also something called the dust bowl?
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts
My grandfather was a weather
July 2, 2007 - 22:31 ET by upcountrywaterMy grandfather was a weather man in Dodge City Kansas. My mom has some pictures like this, the dust lasted for days and blotted out the sun.
IRANIAN URANIMUN, 220 lbs and counting.
UPgood link i've held it to w
July 2, 2007 - 22:39 ET by botgUP
good link i've held it to watch the movie later. The point is weather changes.
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -Chief Justice John Roberts