Update below with video:
Alert Al Gore and Hillary Clinton! Capitalism has answered the call for better recycling methods, but you probably haven't heard about it. A US company, Global Resource Corporation (GRC), invented a revolutionary high-frequency microwave which recycles anything with a hydrocarbon base like plastic, rubber or automobile "scrap" into 20% diesel oil and 80% combustible gas. The Hawk-10 should reduce the amount of trash in landfills and numbers of abandoned junk piles, as well as to a lessor extent, provide some oil--all without producing (for those who care) greenhouse gasses. Aside from a handful of articles that are mostly on techie sites and in India, the major media ignored a June 26 New Scientist article about the Hawk-10.
It will now be profitable to clean up those previously useless mountains of discarded tires and old car dumps that enrage environmentalists, while reducing landfills in the process. Considering the media drum beat over oil, environmentalism and recycling, this discovery seemed like a perfect fit, but not even Katie Couric or the New York Times mentioned it. Maybe they were confused as to whether they should support or condemn the process because it creates that dastardly oil.
Here's what the media didn't tell you about how the Hawk-10 could change recycling (emphasis mine):
"Take a piece of copper wiring," says Meddick. "It is encased in plastic – a kind of hydrocarbon material. We release all the hydrocarbons, which strips the casing off the wire." Not only does the process produce fuel in the form of diesel oil and gas, it also makes it easier to extract the copper wire for recycling.
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Gershow Recycling, a scrap metal company based in New York, US, has just said it will be the first to buy a Hawk-10. Gershow collects metal products, shreds them and turns them into usable pure metals. Most of its scrap comes from old cars, but for every ton of steel that the company recovers, between 226 kg and 318 kg of "autofluff" is produced.
Autofluff is the stuff that is left over after a car has been shredded and the steel extracted. It contains plastics, rubber, wood, paper, fabrics, glass, sand, dirt, and various bits of metal. GRC says its Hawk-10 can extract enough oil and gas from the left-over fluff to run the Hawk-10 itself and a number of other machines used by Gershow.
Because it makes extracting reusable metal more efficient and evaporates water from autofluff, the Hawk-10 should also reduce the amount of end material that needs to be deposited in landfill sites.
You would think a discovery which would eliminate the need for legislation and public shaming to get people involved in recycling would interest the mainstream media, especially since they are entranced by anything “green."
Only time will tell if the media just haven't noticed this story yet or if they are actually downplaying or ignoring this incredible innovation.
Update: 17:20 EST:
* YouTube video of the process
* This isn't exactly news coverage--CNN Money posted GRC's press release for the Hawk-10
Above recycling image from the Washington, DC Office of Recycling website
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It will now be profitable to
June 29, 2007 - 20:13 ET by drillanwrIt will now be profitable to clean up those previously useless mountains of discarded tires and old car dumps that enrage environmentalists, while reducing landfills in the process.
Sounds like more jobs. Katie, bar the door ... er, border.
Maybe they were confused as t
June 29, 2007 - 20:43 ET by general companyMaybe they were confused as to whether they should support or condemn the process because it creates that dastardly oil.
They obviously havent heard from brother Gore yet
You would think a discovery which would eliminate the need for legislation and public shaming to get people involved in recycling would interest the mainstream media, especially since they are entranced by anything “green."
This is not going to help brother Gores wallet, I am betting he is against it. Katie Couric and New York Times must have sensed it
The MSM which includes FOX Ne
June 29, 2007 - 20:45 ET by M J BThe MSM which includes FOX News has not reorted on this!
Why is this Liberal Bias?
Because it is a conservative
June 29, 2007 - 20:48 ET by general companyBecause it is a conservative solution?
Plastic to oil
June 29, 2007 - 21:06 ET by Cool ArrowLet's not fall all over ourselves touting this as the salvation of our way of life.
Similar "studies" pushed "Brown's Gas" as a cure all. Google it.
The Hawk 10 may live up to expectations, and maybe not.
I am sorry, I did not reliz
June 29, 2007 - 21:17 ET by general companyI am sorry, I did not relize I was falling all over myself touting this as the salvation of our way of life.
I just thought it was funny?
}}----> general
June 29, 2007 - 21:22 ET by Cool ArrowI didn't realize you were falling all over yourself either. Did someone say you were?
When I am in a group of 2 or
June 29, 2007 - 21:28 ET by general companyWhen I am in a group of 2 or more I/we are ofter refered to as "lets"
As in "lets" go to the store.
"lets" go home.
Please do not take this serious, I dont.
Snake oil
June 29, 2007 - 21:35 ET by Cool ArrowI'm just saying I hope there's something to this concept, but we (for lack of another pronoun) need only look to ethanol to see the shell game that's being played. The ethanol process requires almost as much fuel to produce as is produced in fuel.
I like the story of Stone Soup from Captain Kangaroo. Still makes sense today
wow! That is remarkable.
June 29, 2007 - 21:37 ET bywow! That is remarkable.
Who cares about turning pla
June 29, 2007 - 22:27 ET by riff_raffWho cares about turning plastic bottles into oil. A German scientist has figured out how to turn cats into diesel fuel. His method yields about 2/3 of a gallon of high quality, low sulfur no.2 diesel per cat. And it's highly economical too! The production cost is about $1.10(US) per gallon. This guy deserves the Nobel prize.
http://www.ananova.c...
Just think: I'll be to fuel up my 3/4 ton diesel pickup, rid the neighborhood of unwanted feral cats, piss off liberal environmentalists and help end our country's dependence on foreign oil. All at the same time.
The mind boggles with the possibilities here. Just imagine how many gallons of valuable fuel a fat, bloated carcass like Al Gore or Michael Moore might yield.
The Hawk-10 , 1) needs a vacu
June 29, 2007 - 23:47 ET by upcountrywaterThe Hawk-10 , 1) needs a vacuum. 2) needs a condenser 3) needs a microwave source. these 3 things SUCK energy.
I'm betting this machine uses WAY more energy, than what one would get out of it.
Just like ethanol.
IRANIAN URANIMUN, 220 lbs and counting.
The press release says noth
June 29, 2007 - 23:55 ET by sarcasmoThe press release says nothing about how much energy is needed, but intuitively I'd guess the park benches I've seen made a decade ago out of PTFE plastics are less energy-intensive than this process. I hope it's not a tax-money sink like ethanol is, but give politicians enough time and they'll find a way to either prohibit it or they'll manage to give it a subsidy...
JMR
The Saudis pump high qualit
June 30, 2007 - 02:13 ET by riff_raffThe Saudis pump high quality crude out of the ground for less than $15 bbl. How can you compete with that? Certainly not by recycling Evian bottles. And a little tiny country like Qatar has so much natural gas reserves that they can hardly afford to give it away.
Regardless of the (speculation driven) high crude prices we've experienced for the last two years, supply will catch up with demand and oil prices will settle out.
Thank goodness we have savvy oil industry guys like Bush and Cheney calling the shots. We'll use up all the cheap crude from the middle east, Canada, Russia and Mexico. After their supplies are no longer economical to import, we'll tap our domestic supplies of oil, gas and coal. Our economy will still be going gangbusters, while the oil-export-dependent economies of the middle east, Russia, Canada and Mexico go belly up.
In fact, I'm pretty sure the only reason Bush is sucking up to the illegals is that he knows we benefit from the cheap oil coming from Mexico. Once Mexico's cheap oil runs out (which is likely to happen within the next 4 or 5 years) there will be a fence built between the U.S. and Mexico faster than you can say "Arriba". About 1/3 of the Mexican government's revenues come from Pemex crude sales (they supply 15% of US oil/gas imports), and Mexico's oil reserves are dwindling FAST. The Mexican federal government will collapse without those oil revenues and most of their citizens will head north to escape the ensuing economic depression. The illegal alien problem we have now is nothing compared to what will happen when Mexico's Cantarell oil field dries up.
Besides our domestic oil and gas reserves, this country has the world's largest reserves of coal (300 years worth at current consumption rates) and one of the world's largest deposits of shale oil (more oil than the total amount that will ever be pumped out of Saudi Arabia). Oil shales and GTL conversion of coal is currently economical at the equivalent of $40 bbl crude oil, so sometime within the next few years I would expect that energy costs will settle out somewhere around there. Remember, only a few short years ago, oil was only about $12 bbl.
And finally, one of these days, some clever entrepreneur will figure out a way to economically harvest the methane hydrate deposits covering the deep ocean floor off of our east and west coasts. They say there's at least another thousand year's supply of energy there.
sarc,you tube ( poor video
June 30, 2007 - 16:12 ET by upcountrywatersarc,
you tube ( poor video ,ok audio) describes the process here. Vacuum, condenser, microwave.
However it's definitely a feel good way to get rid of trash !
Don't the conventional method
June 30, 2007 - 07:20 ET by Seabeach4348Don't the conventional methods used for coverting crude oil into gasoline, diesel fuel, etc also SUCK some amount of energy in the process?
No matter what method we use there is no free lunch, so wouldn't it be a good idea to examine everything?
Sea,No not even close, that i
June 30, 2007 - 16:17 ET by upcountrywaterSea,
No not even close, that is why we are STILL using it ( oil, gas ,coal ,nuks). It's always good to look at all energy systems, to see if there is a net gain.
What's older, the gasoline engine or fuel cells?
can you imagine what would
June 30, 2007 - 16:24 ET by Conservative Voicecan you imagine what would have to happen to Hawaii for the people here to allow a nuk-energy plant here? Or even if we used thermo-generators? Even though I don't have air conditioning or a heater, I spend more on energy here than I did in Utah or California.
}}----> Fuel cells?
June 30, 2007 - 16:43 ET by Cool ArrowAre we referring to the 'supposed batteries' found in the pyramids? The ones that suggest some of the solid gold artifacts are plated?
CV & CA,Yes a nuk here (H
June 30, 2007 - 17:58 ET by upcountrywaterCV & CA,
Yes a nuk here (Hawaii) would be great, then we ALL can have electric cars running every where, UTLIZING OVER HEAD WIRES not batteries. Most roads have wires running along them already.
A nuclear plant has a small foot print compared to the land hogging solar panels and windmills , jammed on every hill top.
Really we should build one on each island ! faat chance lol
yes fuel cells are older than gas engines.
I am interested in the ener
June 30, 2007 - 11:44 ET by Conservative VoiceI am interested in the energy trade off...but its cool that we can turn trash into fuel...much better idea than turning food (ethanol ) into fuel...plus its real fuel that we can pipe ( ethanol has to be trucked ...no fuel savings there... not to mention your engine doesn't run as efficient on ethanol ).
My guess though, if an evil conservative is behind this capitalist company, then the trade off is worth it.
the vast majority of ethanol
June 30, 2007 - 12:57 ET by PKthe vast majority of ethanol is hauled in tank cars on the railroad.
the big problem with ethanol is that it sucks moisture out of any possible source (like the air) which dilutes it (you can't have much more that a couple of a percent of water in gasoline or the engine stalls.) pipe lines inject a slug of water into the line to separate the various products being transported which goes right into the ethanol.
in an industrial sense there isn't enough ethanol being shipped to really build dedicated pipe lines etc.
one single railroad car can haul the equivilent of three tank trucks.
the railroads have a method of connecting tank cars together and so when they load these trains (made up of permanently connected cars with couplers and hoses) they pump the product into one end of the train and it fills all of the cars.
(actually they cut the train into a couple of sections and make four connections in the middle, to save time in loading or unloading. loading/unloading rates are in the neighborhood of 5000 gpm or higher, the standard filling pipe in this league is 12" [a large tank truck is 8500 gal.]) (yes martha it would fill your swiming pool in like 50 seconds)
moving a 96 car train to the loading/unloading track, connecting up the fittings and then doing the actual loading/unloading then removing the outfit back to the trainyard in actualy takes about 4 hours.
here in the los angeles area there is one "tank train" that brings crude oil from up the coast on a 20 hour cycle, has been for 30 years. there are seveal others in use about the country . the big thing about these trains is that after they have been in use for 10-15 years they tend to be replaced by pipelines.
by the way, the locomotives are diesels, however they could be electrics powered by nuc generating stations. (that was first done in the 1950's).C
Changing World Technologies
June 30, 2007 - 08:47 ET by c5thenA company called Changing World Technologies has developed a process that is sort of a high-temperature de-polymerization process that will turn almost any input material into it's seperate components.
Changing World Technologies
They basically run the manufacturing process backwards like the old joke about running a sausage mill backwards to manufacture pigs. Their first plant is built next to a turkey processing plant and takes their waste product (entrails, feathers, etc) and produces water, calcium and deisel fuel.
Their next plant is probably going to use old tires to produce carbon black, oil and water.
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic
the business of getting rid o
June 30, 2007 - 12:32 ET by PKthe business of getting rid of the "fluff" is a really old problem. the first that i saw mention of it was in the fifties. there is quite literally mountains of the stuff sitting around.
a problem with the wire is that most methods of removing the plastic insulation leaves a residual coating on the wire that is quite hard to remove. (remember there is literally tons of insulated wire about.) any hinderance to quite simply melting it down into ingots subtracts from the value.
this machine is aimed toward the scrap industry. those guys work cheap. there are a lot of machines for processing scrap but getting the stuff into condition to move economically to the machine is a problem. automobiles are crushed, cubed, chopped, and ground. after chopping and grinding the result is run through a magnetic separator which pulls the steel out but leaves aluminum, copper, plastic, glass, etc. and the economics of getting the stuff to the "hawk 10" is the killer. (in order to support the microwave part of the machine you have to have quite muscular industrial grade power and that is only available in certain places, no you don't plug it into the wall out in the garage).
just the name of the thing is interesting. there is only enough work in the country to support a couple of hundred of these things. by the time its installed it is approaching machine tool costs yet they give it a merchandising name more appropriate to a lawn mowr or bycyble.
sounds like another of those things that works but is not industrially economical. (probably has an actual payout time of 30 years and will be superceded in five.)
C