CBS News: Immigration Defeat Is 'Defining Day' For Bush, Sees 'Dead Duck Presidency'

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While ABC and NBC both led off their Thursday night newscasts with the Supreme Court decision barring an exclusively race-based approach to assigning students to various schools, the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric began with the demise of the Senate immigration bill. CBS’s reporters emphasized how the vote was a defeat for President Bush, even though top Senate Democrats like Ted Kennedy and Harry Reid, plus a few Republicans like John McCain had also fought for the measure and failed.

CBS White House correspondent Jim Axelrod asserted that Thursday’s vote marked “a defining day in the Bush presidency.” CBS’s resident historian (and John Kerry biographer) Douglas Brinkley went even further: “George Bush is beyond being a lame duck President. He’s a dead duck President.”

In contrast, NBC’s Tim Russert argued that essentially all of Washington was now lame, not just the President: “I think there’s a growing sense, a strong sense, that Washington is just broken. It’s incapable of now taking on big issues like immigration or the looming Social Security crisis or the war in Iraq....I think both the White House and the Congress will pay a price for their inability to do something about immigration.”

Over on ABC’s World News, anchor Charles Gibson seemed to echo his analysis from June 8, when a similar failure to invoke cloture seemed to indicate the immigration bill’s defeat. Back then, Gibson said the immigration bill’s defeat made him wonder if “the way things stand, if our political system is really equipped to attack and solve the big problems?”

Last night, after reporter Jake Tapper noted how despite obvious problems with the immigration system, there is “little desire on Capitol Hill to plunge yet again into that morass,” Gibson again suggested: “Jake, that seems counter-intuitive to some people. Everybody -- whether you were for this bill or against this bill -- says something has the to be done about immigration. And yet, you have a majority of the Senate saying well, let’s not do anything.”

Tapper replied: “That’s exactly right. And as we mentioned before on this broadcast, there was something in this compromise legislation, to offend everybody. There was something that everybody didn’t like. And that ultimately is what killed the bill, especially with that very, very strong opposition from Republicans.”

Here’s more of how the big three networks covered the immigration bill’s defeat. MRC intern Joe Steigerwald transcribed the reports from the June 28 CBS Evening News and Nightly News, while I transcribed ABC’s World News.

# CBS Evening News, following a report from correspondent Sharyl Atkisson on the Senate vote:

JIM AXELROD: “I’m Jim Axelrod at the White House. President Bush was in no mood for questions about his stunning defeat on immigration. It’s not just that this is a clear rebuke of his confident prediction two and a half weeks ago.”

GEORGE W. BUSH, June 11: “I believe we can get it done. I’ll see you at the bill signing.”

AXELROD: “It’s that the defeat was sealed by his own party. After personally lobbying many Republicans, more than three dozen defected. Immigration was Mr. Bush’s signature domestic issue, and he used whatever remaining political capital he had left. Remember those hot and sweaty trips to the southwest so he could patrol the border? Which is exactly why historians will look back on this as a defining day in the Bush presidency.”

DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, CBS News Analyst: “Failure of the immigration bill means that George Bush is beyond being a lame duck President. He’s a dead duck President.”

AXELROD: “And it’s not just immigration. When the White House claimed executive privilege today to fight congressional subpoenas in the U.S. Attorney firings investigation, a top Republican complained the White House was just continuing to protect the President’s embattled Attorney General.”

SENATOR ARLEN SPECTER (at press conference): “And while the investigation is lagging, Attorney General Gonzalez continues to serve. But as long as he continues to serve the department is in disarray.”

AXELROD: “Add to that, this week’s high-profile republican defections about the war [screen shots of Senators Richard Lugar and George Voinovich] which sent national security adviser Steve Hadley to Capitol Hill to see if he could contain the damage.”

BRINKLEY: “It’s when people in your own party turn on you when you’re President, is when your policies crumble.”

AXELROD: “One GOP insider told me when it comes to the President’s influence, it’s how low can you go? If the President’s approval ratings were just at traditional lows it might be different. But they’re not, he added, they’re at historic lows, so now it’s every man for himself. Jim Axelrod, CBS News, the White House.

# NBC Nightly News, June 28. After a review of the Senate action by David Gregory, anchor Brian Williams talked about the political implications with Tim Russert:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: “And with us tonight to talk a little bit more about this, our Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert. And, Tim, what just happened here? Did, as some contend, the American people just rise up and kill this?”

TIM RUSSERT: “Well, Brian, there was a lot of anger out there but that’s why leaders are sent to Washington, to analyze and try to look at legislation and do what they think is in the overall public’s interest. I think there’s a growing sense, a strong sense, that Washington is just broken. It’s incapable of now taking on big issues like immigration or the looming Social Security crisis or the war in Iraq. It’s incapable of sitting down and finding common ground and achieving compromise and achieving great things.”

WILLIAMS: “And Tim, in Washington, where nothing, it seems, is ever really a sure bet and nothing is ever really dead, is this really now dead?”

RUSSERT: “It’s dead. Finito. Morte. It is over, Brian, for this cycle legislatively. You’ll see a big debate in the presidential campaign play out. Democrats will try to convince Hispanics that they were the party with a pathway to citizenship. They’ll try to get the Hispanic vote by a margin of 2-1. Republicans will say nonsense it was an amnesty bill. It will play out. Ironically Brian, the one thing that the Congress did achieve, the House approved a $4,000 pay raise. That they found common ground on. I think both the White House and the Congress will pay a price for their inability to do something about immigration.”

# ABC’s World News with Charles Gibson. Reporter Jake Tapper began by summarizing the bill’s defeat, then wrapped up his report by noting how the Congress probably won’t want to pursue a different version of immigration reform:

JAKE TAPPER: “The bill was unpopular with so many Americans.” [On screen display: CNN Poll on Immigration Bill: 47% Oppose; 30% Support; 22% Unsure]

SENATOR JON KYL (at press conference): “A lot of Americans have lost faith in their government. They don’t think we can control our borders, that we can win a war, that we can issue passports.”

SENATOR JIM DEMINT (on floor of Senate): “They’re calling in such numbers that it’s crashed the telephone system here in the Senate. My question to the Senate today is, what part of no don’t we understand?”

SENATOR TED KENNEDY (at press conference): “It’s extremely difficult for me to understand how the will of the American people [is to] want to continue to have broken borders.”

TAPPER, over video of a border patrol vehicle, some people walking through a turnstyle, and others jumping over a fence: “Status quo border security, at least 12 million illegal immigrants, an antiquated and broken immigration system. And that system will continue, as is, with no solution in sight, and little desire on Capitol Hill to plunge yet again into that morass. Charlie?”

CHARLES GIBSON: “Jake, that seems counter-intuitive to some people. Everybody -- whether you were for this bill or against this bill -- says something has the to be done about immigration. And yet, you have a majority of the Senate saying well, let’s not do anything.”

TAPPER: “That’s exactly right. And as we mentioned before on this broadcast, there was something in this compromise legislation, to offend everybody. There was something that everybody didn’t like. And that ultimately is what killed the bill, especially with that very, very strong opposition from Republicans.”


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SENATOR TED KENNEDY (at press

SENATOR TED KENNEDY (at press conference): “It’s extremely difficult for me to understand how the will of the American people [is to] want to continue to have broken borders.”

Let's see - the American people rise up against Amnesty, demand the enforcement of current laws, and build the wall, and somehow Ted Kennedy thinks that equates to wanting to continue to have "broken borders". 

Dutch

It's difficult for him to und

It's difficult for him to understand the will of the American people.

I don't know what is more dis

I don't know what is more disingenous, Ted's claims, or the media portraying this as Bush's defeat. I stated in another thread that Harry Reid probably isn't all that upset about the fate of this bill, as the President seems to be taking all of the heat for this,(well along with talk radio).

Btw, teddy, the American people don't want "broken borders" (it's people like you who broke it by the way), we want our laws ENFORCED, against the illegals and the businesses that employ them. Do that. No more legislation,( meant for nothing else than to legalize the criminals already here), is needed.

I agree with most everything

I agree with most everything you wrote, with the exception about it being Bush's defeat.  Bush was as much of a supporter of this bill than anyone in the Senate, if not more so.  He first announced his plan for amnesty in January 2005 and was confident that this would pass.  While the Senators were the ones who got hammered by the people, Bush is just as much as fault with the fact that this legislation made it as far as it is did, in my opinion.

Dutch

I agree. What I was trying to

I agree. What I was trying to say is that the media is portraying the President as the only loser in this. While President Bush deserves to take some flak over his support for this bill, the media are spinning it as a defeat for the President, not for Kennedy, or Reid et al.

Oh, and you're absolutely rig

Oh, and you're absolutely right on that.  Where is the media showing Reid's flip-flop from back in the 90's when he was pro-enforcement and stopping the invasion?  Where is the media with Kennedy, who voted for the 86 amnesty and said there would never be another amnesty? 

Dutch

matt - Wait till the beache

matt - Wait till the beached Orca gets a couple of pints of Scotch down him.

That should make it clearer.

You've seen the wooden spoof. Now see my funnier spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

As a Mass resident, I KNOW it

As a Mass resident, I KNOW it is impossible for Ted Kennedy to believe one of his constituents has the sense to come in out of the rain, much less advise the "great one" - contacting his office was an act of futility...but I did so anyhow!

Another question he asked (bleated out) "what are we supposed to do with them?  Deport them all????"  The answer, senator Kennedy is YES!  And BUILD THE DARN FENCE...AND ENFORCE THE LAWS ALREADY ON THE BOOKS!!!

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RUSSERT: “It’s dead. Finito. Morte. It is over, Brian, for this cycle legislatively. You’ll see a big debate in the presidential campaign play out. Democrats will try to convince Hispanics that they were the party with a pathway to citizenship."

I predicted this would happen...just another opportunity for Harry Reid to "pin the tail on the president" - and the president was more than willing to put himself in a position of that happening, much to my chagrin. 

Where is the "great one's" name????  Or that of senator McCain, the co-sponsor of the bill.  Or Harry Reid's??? As I understand it, this is a Democratic majority senate...therefore, it stands to reason that this is a Democratic defeat.  Have the names of the co-sponsors been uttered anywhere??? 

This is just one more example of president Bush stepping in when he should have sat idly by - but no, had to make that statement about "...see ya at the bill signing"  Now, of course, it is all the president's fault that it didn't pass.

If it is anyone's "fault", it is the "fault" of myself and the hundreds of thousands who made phone calls and contacted senate offices from across America...the "voice of the people" has been heard!!!!!!

SENATOR TED KENNEDY:  "

SENATOR TED KENNEDY:  "It's extremely difficult for me to understand how the will of the people [is to] want to continue to have broken borders."

 Since when has this toad ever been interested in the will of the people?  It was the will of the people to have secure and manageable borders for decades, and they thought that's what they were paying for.  But career politicians like Kennedy -- whose been negligent in the oversight of the problem since he took office over 40 years ago -- willfully ignore the will of the American people, in favor of the will of the illegal people.

Kennedy will never understand that this was open public rebellion  against Senatorial backroom deal-making and deceit.  Reid doesn't get it either, so he blames talk radio, even though he couldn't keep almost a third of the Democratic Senators in his fold.

It's very simple, Senators!  Fix the border, and when we get a handle on that, we'll start fixing the rest of the problem.

SIDENOTE:  I don't know if Bush is a dead duck, but he's certainly a lame duck.  The next year and a half will be little more than some minor Rose Garden events, unless we suffer another terrorist attack.  There's no more steam in Bush's locomotive.  Most of his team has departed, and he seems physically exhausted.

SIDENOTE:  I don't know if B

SIDENOTE:  I don't know if Bush is a dead duck, but he's certainly a lame duck.  The next year and a half will be little more than some minor Rose Garden events, unless we suffer another terrorist attack.  There's no more steam in Bush's locomotive.  Most of his team has departed, and he seems physically exhausted.

And that's his fault.  He had a mandate after 2004, and squandered it ... I don't know why, maybe so he could keep trying to set a new tone in Washington.  I am so disappointed mostly in this. 

My disappointment, too. 

My disappointment, too. 

Hi drill...The minute after t

Hi drill...

The minute after the President made the speech after the last Presidential election... he said he had earned the political capitol and he was going to spend it...

....the long knives were out....

'nuff said.

"'nuff said"  How

"'nuff said" 

How so? Whose knives? I thought it was incredibly stupid thing to say as soon as he said it.

Of course you did curious...s

Of course you did curious...so did the rest of the leftists in this country media wise...

I knew the minute he said it the enemy within like you would pounce.

You people never let him have one day of happiness or show any thanks since he won the first time...and I mean the first time...not the little school yard snot nosed brat algore style of trying to lie cheat and steal and put this whole country in turmoil because I want it now and mommy said I could have it and deserved it kind of man that is going to be your next candidate again....

Algore...a mans man....who has to pay a woman named Naomi Wolfe tons of money from political donors to guide him on how to dress manly...his own wife or his own manly self did not even know how to do that?

If you do not know how to dress at the age.... algore deserves to stay in the  Romper Room world he lives in.

Btw...From the Chinese taking our men/women not long after the President was sworn in to now has been a lot for one man to handle.

That leaves algore out...along with the rest of the leftists...including any Clinton who left this mess.

Whoa....bad time of the month

Whoa....bad time of the month? I was just curious as to what you meant by 'long knives', but your paranoid and over the top response answered me. It was that damn leftist under your bed.

BTW. It WAS an incredibly stupid thing to say. The gods always punish the hubris of mortals.

Bad time of the month?Every s

Bad time of the month?

Every single day leftist trolls like you come on here it s a bad day for you with me as far as I am concerned.....

I do advise you to watch it....never know when my long knives will come out.

What, now you're going to giv

What, now you're going to give me your Dick Cheney impersonation?

When are you paranoid, Ronnie-come-lately Republican wannabes going to accept the fact that a person doesn't have to be a Democrat, a liberal or a leftist to find things wrong with this administration; he has only to be a good Republican: ie, someone who supports limited govt, the rule of law, a prudent foreign policy, personal responsibilty and individual liberty. Hell, I supported Nixon in 1960, 1968 and 1972, and yet by 1974 I was in favor of impeaching him for putting his partisan interests above the rule of law.

So, quit with the leftist paranoia, and start thinking with your mind rather than with your opposite end.

drill -- and don't forget t

drill -- and don't forget that apart from being a lame duck..

his goose is cooked, he's turned turkey and all the conservative birds have flow the coop.

Since he flew like an eagle on the still burning ruins of the Twin Towers, it's been a disappointing decline.

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

There was no wind beneath his

There was no wind beneath his wings...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

How long can we keep this o

How long can we keep this one flying?

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

punny

I am crying fowl over this entire exchange.

Isn't that how vegans regar

Isn't that how vegans regard Thanksgiving..

Murder Most Fowl?

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

Oh, will you guys stop feathe

Oh, will you guys stop feathering your caps with this one?

Bush down

I am getting a little down from this topic.

[Definitely down about Bush's moderate 2nd term.]

Where's Dick Cheney and his

Where's Dick Cheney and his trusty shotgun when you need him?

You've seen the spoof. Now see the spoof of the spoof on YouTube: The Clintpranos: Bada Bong

He flew the coop Jack!Dang it

He flew the coop Jack!

Dang it all!

bt..too many

bt...too many roosters in the hen house.

Now now drill...Birds of a fe

Now now drill...

Birds of a feather...flock together....

when will it end?

How much punishment must we subject our fellow NBers to?

}}----> punishment

I'll send you the bill

"Do the chickens have la

"Do the chickens have large talons?"

}}----> Birds

Hard to swallow.

Dr. Bob White can help you wi

Dr. Bob White can help you with that problem ...

I refuse help

I refuse help like liberals do...instead, I choose to bury my head in the sand like an ostrich.

}}----> Gonna sue

Get me a Lawyer. Is Atticus Finch available?

joke, please

Is there a Boo Radley joke in the house? anyone?

Boo Radley

Wasn't Boo Radley the guy who said "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning"?

Bird brain

Don't forget, the President's amenesty bill has just laid an egg.

Good thing Mr. Bush doesn't quail before the enemy.

Maybe he's hoping he can feather his nest like Bubba did when he retired.

Say, those daughters of his are cute chicks, aren't they?

Have I clubbed this topic to death yet? :-)

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.

nkviking ???

nkviking...are we feeling a little cocky right now? Don't be a chicken, bring it on!!!

It's on

I guess I could come out of my shell and hatch a few more...

oh yeah

Are you ready to eat crow?

Next

It'll be like robin candy from a baby.

really

What's good for the goose is good for the gander !!!

[Someone help me out with a fois gras joke now.]

Stop parroting the French.

Stop parroting the French.

running away

I would run away if I wasn't pigeon toed.

}}----> Chicken

Running away is a cardinal sin

Snack time

<jingle music>Oh, Oh, Oh, Ice cold milk and an oriole cookie...

trouble brewing

I heard that the Sky is Falling. This, of course, is from an unamed source that wishes to remain anonymous...he is a little chicken, you see.

[With that, I am out of here. To all, have a great weekend!!]

Well, that's just pluckin' gr

Well, that's just pluckin' great, LK!!!  Pluckin' great!!

}}----> drillanwr

Don't be such a sap,sucker

Lion King, the circle of life has come around to you.

LK, it's your tern.

Gonna need a legal eagle to g

Gonna need a legal eagle to get us out of this one.

Paging Silky Pony

Maybe this is a job for John Edwards? Nah. No money in it.

no kidding

No way...Edwards doesn't work for chicken feed.

Forehand smash

Point to Lion King

good one

I like that...circle of life, crap ... ROTFLMAO

I understand The Dixie Chicks

I understand The Dixie Chicks, aka, The French Hens, are writing a song about it all ...

&quot;I don't know why, maybe

"I don't know why, maybe so he could keep trying to set a new tone in Washington.  I am so disappointed mostly in this."

Any new ideas that Bush brought to Washington were started in his first term.  Outside of the war on terrorism, which he seems to have run out of ideas on, the only big issue he's stepped up to the plate on was this failed Senate immigration reform bill, and he was on the wrong side of that.

He's violated one of the cornerstones of conservatism --- control government spending --- and now the public isn't even listening to him anymore.  Why should they?  He sounds like a broken record.

The public is ready to move on.

Anybody see Ann Coulter on Bi

Anybody see Ann Coulter on Bill O.R. last night?

I sort of like her idea for this problem.  I believe it went something like this: 

Have illegals sue employers for not paying them minimum wage (and I think Ann suggested making these illegals who sue legal and putting them in line for citizenship ...) And once that starts employers won't hire illegals if they know they're going to be sued.

(My explaination needs work ...)

That has always bugged me.  The same people who gripe about Walmart not providing this and that for their workers, are the same ones who insist these illegals should be allowed to come here and work for peanuts ... not even minimum wages!  And absolutely no benefits!

The left is a vast bottomless pit of hypocrisy trying to suck us all into the void and darkness.

}}----> got that right drillanwr

Leave it to the true voice of conservatism to come up with a workable inexpensive plan.

But would it work. What if th

But would it work. What if the alien had false ID, as many do. Then the employer would merely claim he acted under good faith, and the law, by checking his ID. That's the real unspoken problem with employer sanctions: quality fake ID. How does an employer know without some sort of expensive, and intrusive, system for checking IDs. And wouldn't any system for infallible IDs have to include real citizens?

My state, I'm embarrassed to say, allows aliens to get driving licenses. And these are just like my own. I've friends who hire illegals to work their harvests, and they say it's impossible to identify who's illegal and who's a true citizen of hispanic origin.

The larger issue is whether we can devise an impossible-to-forge ID card that doesn't take us down the road to a national ID.

I like when she said that she

I laughed when she said she was "the illegal immigrant of political commentary" - that she says what no one else is willing to say.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

And...is the only one held to

And...is the only one held to task for so doing!  (Loved today's NB cartoon!)

Lame duck president?We have

Lame duck president?

We have since been introduced to the lame duck congress.

In the light of dim low ratings, Reid has threatened the GOP with blocking legislation and Pelosi guaranteed a new vote on a phased Iraq withdrawal. Imagine Kennedy convincing the people the war is wrong.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Thank goodness this wretched

Thank goodness this wretched bill has been stopped, for now.  President Bush threw in with his generation (60's boomer libs: Republican, Democrat doesn't matter) who are now running the government on a broad basis.  He threw down the gauntlet, leading the way by practically insisting that this congress pass legislation that would compromise the sovereignty of the United States.  And just as disgraceful - during the same time he granted funding for Fatah.  People change.  My support for this president changed to almost nothing.  Waiting for '08 while we drift during wartime.  Disgraceful.

NBC’s Tim Russert argued th

NBC’s Tim Russert argued that essentially all of Washington was now lame, not just the President:

I wont argue with that

 

There was something that everybody didn’t like. And that ultimately is what killed the bill, especially with that very, very strong opposition from Republicans.”

I did not find it all that strong?

Jake, that seems counter-intuitive to some people. Everybody -- whether you were for this bill or against this bill -- says something has the to be done about immigration. And yet, you have a majority of the Senate saying well, let’s not do anything.”

Seal the boarder enforce the existing laws, you guys cant be that thick?

'Dead Duck Presidency'Using M

'Dead Duck Presidency'

Using Matthews/Edwards/MSM logic, is that a threat on the life of Pres. Bush, CBS?

I find it facinating that sin

I find it facinating that since the defeat of this crappy bill, it is all Bush's fault, and was "his" bill.  Hmmmmm, all his?  Yes he was for it, and I'm angry with him, but it was the Democraps and some RINOs that were pushing it.  Notice how they all run away and point fingers. 

BEGRUNT.....The Poor Fearless

BEGRUNT.....

The Poor Fearless Leader Harry Reid is scared of his own shadow on a cloudy day.

big,I think asshat Harry is g

big,

I think asshat Harry is going to find it tough in the next election cycle.  That idiot has no business being in office as well as a senator.  He and Voinobitch were made for each other, even though Voinobitch ended up doing the right thing in the end.  I dont think he'll be re-elected either.

This was the Bush/Kennedy Bil

This was the Bush/Kennedy (and McCain) Bill ...

Once again, Kennedy quietly wades out, and slinks away to let the other person drown ...