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Matthew, I hope you're wearin

Matthew, I hope you're wearing your waders and maybe a hazmat suit.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

I've been wondering if there

I've been wondering if there was going to be a thread....

Thanks....

An entire Open Thread, with

An entire Open Thread, with links like this one, mysteriously-disappeared earlier, apparently because there were 2 or because I said something good about Ron Paul, you choose what to believe. Then the one Open Thread became filled up with 2 pages and harder to use anyway. Sigh...I've forgotten the other URL that was disappeared...
JMR

A Democratic Debate???

Isn't that an oxymoron?

The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic

Why Chris Matthews bushwhacked Ann Coulter really

This is related exactly to the democratic debate tonight. As there is a coup going on against Hillary Clinton by her own elite masters. Exclusive to the LC blog.

I am surprised no one has seen though why Chris Matthews set up Ann
Coulter with the Elizabeth Edwards bushwhack.......when it is revealed
everyone will sigh, "Oh yeah why didn't I think of that!"

I will give the answer in it all has to do with the earth priest who
stated he would get in the race if one of the democrats faltered before
September.
The answer of course is GlobAl Gore.

See by the way all the media ran with this story piling on so Edwards
could rape and yes I mean rape a windfall of campaign dollars from
donors is intended as part of the silent coup in making Hillary Clinton
hit the dirt hard.
The media knows as much as the banking cartel globalists who run the
world that Hillary is quite FBI loaded with blackmail files. They have
global connections too and it is why ever media whore will not do what
Sean Hannity does to people on his show....grill them until they squirm.

The answer of course is to raise Breck Girl Edwards to tag team with
another cream puff in Barak Hussein Obama in bringing down Hillary.
Neither of these two can win a general election no more than Hillary
can, but Edwards was chosen as he is a weakling who can not even get
out of the primaries.
Obama was raised deliberately from the off stage by democrats to show
democrats are all inclusive, but democrats are still the same as their
bigot plantation owners were in liking to dress up the help in suits
and showing them off to prove they were good vote getters but in the
end they get the back room while white folks eat at the big table.
That is why Obama is in the race and that is why Bill Richardson is in
the race. Obama can not be elevated too much or democrats will have a
problem....all they want is votes and not color in the DNC presidential
ticket....and Richardson gets to be color enough in being Hispanic to
be Hillary's running mate.
Don't jump on me if that sounds racist, because this stuff was plotted
out in the Clinton camp and in the DNC several years ago. Race in the
right mix with the marshmallow on top of the chocolate is they way the
democrats always operate.

Somewhere in this though about a year ago GlobAl Gore convinced the
globalists he was their soul for the buying and they would like nothing
better than Hillary to take a long row on a distant sea and Al to be
their puppet for the next 8 years.

Into that is what Ann Coulter waded into with the Chris Matthews set
up. None of this happens by accident and Matthews being the shill who
will do anything for the globalists to keep his job jumped at the
chance to be the dude who shot Liberty Clinton.
Maybe he is promised the head of NBC Nightly News or maybe it is just
the delight he has in being ass of the day, but Matthews knew what this
scam was and it spread to all the media elevating the weakling Edwards
just enough to so Hillary can come a stumblin' down.

Ann Coulter should be honored at being the big gun they chose as no one
else could generate the publicity she could. A cat fight was on the
ticket, but no one is seeing the real cat fight was Coulter being
utilized to take Hillary Clinton out of the race.

Hillary Clinton has a load of problems coming out in her illegal
campaign financing which certainly can land her in prison. Fred
Thompson was the gentleman who investigated all the Chicom bribes given
the Clintons for their election campaign before. Understand, the
globalists know all of this and know Hillary is a goose to be cooked
and they don't want to be left holding an empty Kerry bag again.

The answer then is GlobAL Gore who standing ready in his current
Dracula impersonation needing a blood transfusion has sold his soul to
the globalists and has worked a deal where comrade Chris Matthews was
the first salvo in bringing down the SS Clinton.

That is why Matthews bushwhacked Ann Coulter. It is the way they do
things in the land of chess where the world is watching the fight, but
not seeing the real game being waged.

agtG 228

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Interesting, as always

Interesting, as always

Lame Cherry,You gotta be kidd

Lame Cherry,

You gotta be kidding me! Love this conspiratorial stuff, the rank speculation…. My husband frequently says, “Pure speculation, dear.”  (Like you, he appreciates a good chess game, and he tends to his 30-or-so online games-in-progress each morning before work.) 

Anyhow, I was surmising that the Hillary people were behind the uTube posting of the Al Gore address from the early 1990’s… the speech that revealed his Iraq policy positions… the positions that are diametrically opposed to those expressed in his current ravings.

And I also presume that the Hillary people will eventually kick Obama to the curb (nicely, but to the curb).  The African American voters won’t be casting ballots for a Republican anytime soon, and Bill can deliver a few rockin’ sermons in Harlem to salve any hurt feelings.

And finally, my bold prediction is that Hillary will win the nomination and then select Wesley Clark to fill the ticket…. After all, if a woman is going to win the election, she could certainly use a General in the American Armed Forces by her side.

So, I would like to know how you think the Gore people will successfully derail the formidable Mrs. C, and who is your nomination for a Gore running mate??

One more thing, explain the “globalists” please… is Soros part of that club?

The dim's are having a debate

The dim's are having a debate? What if they gave a debate and no one came, does it make a sound in the forest?

The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program...........Ronald Reagan

Dem Debate?

Democrat Debate?  Hardly.

The Candidates are present at the indentured quarters of Tavis Smiley hoping to buy a monolithic voting block with empty promises.  There will be little if anything said about personal responsibility. 

Bill Cosby obviously was not invited.  He's evidently not nearly as Black as the marginal magical Hussein Obama.

Tavis will present the Dems as the only choice of the African American race and kindly thank the Plantation owners for coming to their humble abode.

The Dems will be happy with the dog & pony show they've put on because they won't say anything controversial.

Another four years of misrepresentation because.  A democracy will last only until its people realize they can vote themselves money

Can anyone tell me why John E

Can anyone tell me why John Edwards is asking "wha"?

What is up with this?

"Wha"?

He sounds like a two year old.

Oh...and now Obama is blathering on about segregationist ancient history.

Sorry...but this debate is totally plucked.

BTW..."tepid" response for Obama Man with his little diatribe at a racial diatribe.  And little Denny Kucinich clapping his hands is rather silly.  I can't wait to hear Hillary.

Matthew....drop them all, with perfect questions!

John Edwards

Peter Pan Edwards is wondering why the first question wasn't about his wife's courageous battle with cancer the thoughtless Ann Coulter who slapped her around

And Hillary has resurrected h

And Hillary has resurrected her "Village".

Is anyone else as appalled as I am over this "so-called" debate"?

This is pandering on the worst scale.

Sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes, I meant that.

Forgive me all, for replying

Forgive me all, for replying to myself...

But this is an addendum to my prior post.

These dems are seriously nuts!

Don't you love how all of the audience members are nodding up and down over spending everyone else's money.  I bet the average income of these audience members is about $25K per year.  So of course, to them, it makes perfect sence to receive all these bennies...While those of us who make a tad more pay, pay, pay.

Oooooohhhh....Obama said "universal health care"....like I can't wait for THAT!  I am seriously hoping to wait in line with all of the illegal aliens to get my twenty seven seconds in front of a doctor.....which, of course, I paid for...but I have to give it away to an illegal thief.

Oh....now they're saying "Michael Moore is right". 

These people are idiots.

Matthew....please, please, fire a hard conservative question their way....it doesn't matter what the question is....the pandering is making me have to call the carpet cleaner tomorrow.

}}----> Blonde

You know there's bound to be people going home from this racebaiting session tonight saying.  Strawboss gave us the same ol' same ol'.

These dems are beyond "s

These dems are beyond "stuck on stupid". 

I am a very articulate person...but I am at a loss for words....about how stupid the ideas these dem's are postulating come across....

Cinderella doesn't even begin to cover it.....

Oh, now the "pandering" questions begin....race baiting.

Obama is pontificating.  Gag me with a spoon.... a "Justice system...but not Just Us".  Gag, gag, gag....

These people are more trite than my barfing dog.

Guaranteed New Orleans return?

The damned place flooded.  And now my tax dollars should provide incentive for people to step back into the Democrat cesspool that is New Orleans.

Let them sing of the glory days when graft and corruption ran New Orleans, but don't suck it out of my pocket.

Blonde,You have to realize th

Blonde,

You have to realize they are pandering to their base-the uneducated illiterates among us who actually buy into that socialism BS. After all, it isn't their money the dims are coming after. Well, not directly, anyway. But try explaining that to a bunch of people who couldn't run a lemonade stand if their miserable existence depended on it.

Help Fred Thompson win the White House.

}}----> Hillary pandering?

Whodathunkit.  Is she "in no ways tarred" yet.  Surely she's slipped into her antebellum southern drawl by now.  A nod and a wink that "I knows what yo folk been goin through alla dese yeeaahs"  "That's why my husbin de fust Black Prezdent will be wit me at each o' y'all's bahhbekew.

Yes, Hillary is quite disgusting with her, as Larry Elder puts it, patronizing condescencion.

Cool,I am trying really, real

Cool,

I am trying really, really hard not to wretch.

And I love the invective against corporations (like, um, I work for one!!!  I love my corporation....it funds my check every week....I am a loyal employee...I don't want to wipe out big companies).

These dems (libs) are seriously retarded (sorry....terrig, but retarded is retarded, and a child doesn't deserve that sobriquet.....but idiot pol's do!)

The Soviets, if they were still around, would be the clapping section.    Oh, Geez, Hillary is quoting Warren Buffet...this is so stupidly silly I can't even believe it.

Kucinich Jackson

"Rehabilitation, not incarceration?  Jesse's hoppin mad now.

And Barak with the justice system not being color blind?  Oh Puhleeze.  Never mind the question didn't differentiate between violent and nonviolent crime.

lolHillary's " near tire

lol

Hillary's " near tired" speech was an all time classic.

Crack powder?

What's this nonsense about Biden needing crack powder?  Or something like that.

dahlia....Ooohhh...now I hear

dahlia....

Ooohhh...now I heard "I'm a fan of Charley Rangel"

How's that for scary?

Nasal Hill is now speaking.

These people are more than seriously scary. 

If it weren't so scary...it would be funny.  But they seriously think their views are a viable national position.

They pander....they lie, they lie down and spread their legs. 

I am totally amazed that the rest of the country doesn't laugh them off the television. 

What I've heard tonight wouldn't pass my fourth grade civics class, if I taught one. 

These people are idiots.

"I'm a fan of Charley Ra

"I'm a fan of Charley Rangel"

Hopefully, Blonde, Al Sharpton didn't hear that.  His feelings would be hurt.

}}----> It's PBS, Blonde

Who the heck is gonna say anything tonight.

PBS broadcasting to a fawning audience?  We won't hear a discouraging word until Rush hits the airwaves tomorrow.

I'll say something tonite.Thi

I'll say something tonite.

This was the most insane thing I've ever seen in my entire adult life.

It was a pander-fest.

I don't think I actually heard Hillary say "I'm going to take".....but I heard a thousand different ways of couching the "take" message in polite liberal dem-speak.

These people are seriously out of ideas.  I kid you not, I cannot believe they actually get on national TV and espouse these commie ideas.  And all the while, a whole audience "CLAPS".  Who are the clappers?  I'd like to kick their asses back to their mitrochondrial DNA.  Seriously.  Who are these twits?

I'd like to kick these socialists and the Clinton they rode in on (and her blue dress) back to the Dark Ages.

They're all filthy thieves.

Seriously. Who are these twits?

Seriously. Who are these twits?

Stalinists who have been awaiting revenge on the US for having to gall to "win" the cold war.

A what a fitting revenge to have the US adopt the same failed policies as their beloved Socialist Utopia.  Too bad for them, some of us voters are paying attention when we pull the lever.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Fred Thompson and Ann Coulter walk into a bar. The bar is instantly destroyed because that much awesome cannot be contained in one building.

Twits?

Seriously. Who are these twits?

They are the hijackers of "The Dream" a great man spoke about without ever saying gimme gimme.

Yep, Free....Pulling the leve

Yep, Free....

Pulling the lever is the best revenge.

Not to mention we know how to communicate.

Which Senators caved on the cloture vote?

(Not mine....but he shall certainly wish he had the next time he runs in the primary....MEL MARTINEZ in case anyone forgot!)

Fools.

The Shamnesty bill was a great reminder for the Elites in D.C.

Hello!  We voters are still here.

}}----> Cornyn, Hutchinson

My Senators got their minds right in time.  Cornyn, Hutchinson

Blonde,Oh no, I won't be voti

Blonde,

Oh no, I won't be voting for Mel again, no way. I sent him a few emails and called his office. I received the standard response.

Mel was too busy back slappin' with Teddy to care about what we wanted here at home! Makes me want to scream.

Seriously.  Who are these tw

Seriously.  Who are these twits?

They are the people (well, one of them, anyway) who is going to be calling the shots from the Oval Office if the Republican Party doesn't pull its collective (God, I hate that word) head out of its own bum and get with the program.

That is who those twits are.

Help Fred Thompson win the White House.

Blonde,LOL! You are killing m

Blonde,

LOL! You are killing me here. I started to watch but I just couldn't take all those liberals in one place. We put in a DVD...the first season of King of Queens, just made me laugh.

Oh good grief!Can we bury New

Oh good grief!

Can we bury New Orleans already?

Last time I was in Houston, I was accosted by a man w/ a New Orleans accent.  What the hell was he STILL doing in Houston? 

Sheesh.

I'm just sorry NO wasn't permanently put on the bottom of the ocean.  Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Oooooh....Obama is commenting on Halliburton, this should be stupid.

Obama

All Obama needed to say was "Halliburton".  No point needed.  He knows the buzzwords.

Oh, no.  Not the millworker's son again

Cool,I'm sorry to act like a

Cool,

I'm sorry to act like a little child...

But why do we have a "debate" staged by a bunch of people with an agenda?

Am I missing something?

Or am I so supremely stupid that I don't get the agenda-driven questions as being a gift from those who are for the "fairness doctrine"?  And why did my stomach just take a dive while listening to Hillary's diatribe?  I swear I'll kill myself (or seriously move out of the country) if that nasty nasal voice is elected to the Presidency.  It's bad enough to listen to W. mangle the language....But Hillary would make me commit hari Kari.  Or the Silky Pony.  Or ManBearPig.  Or Obamarama. 

They are all cheap suits.

Agreed Blonde

This was nothing more than the same old plantation politics Dems have pulled ever since The African American community chose to believe Barry Goldwater was the Republican party.  They've reaped the whirlwind in so many areas ever since they bought into the gimme gimme culture fostered by the Dems.

Klansman Byrd himself could not be more proud of the bondage under which he and his party have placed an entire race of people.

Thanks, Riled,I was seriously

Thanks, Riled,

I was seriously ready to kill my TV.

I've never seen such a bunch of idiocy in my life.

Do you really think anyone will buy this?  To me it seemed to be bizarro world...kind of like Annakin Skywalker going over to the Dark Side of the Force.

Not terribly believable.  Maybe...with a huge stretch....but a total "NO, don't do it" moment.

OK...having said that....did anyone else get totally freaked out by "Shrill Hill?"  Or was it just me?  That woman makes me want to kill myself.

She's THE commie mommy.

}}----> Buy it? Absolutely

Of course "you people" will buy it.  I don't care what has been said about Ross Perot's gaffe.  He was right in referring to "you people".  Witness the cries of "uncle Tom" every time an African American has the temerity to have an individual thought.

I'm disgusted with the Dems talking down to African Americans, but what can you say when the tactic works so well every time

Between the insurances Co and

Blonde

Between the insurances Co and illegal's there isn't any where to live here? Thanks so much for painting us all with the same brush. I suppose you live in Utopia. Just because the Dems make brownie points with this nonsense, doesnt mean we are all, as you say 'bad rubbish'

Darfur vs Iraq?

Dodd says initiate slaughter in Iraq and save Darfur?

The racist sonofabitch doesn't realize his pandering is racist tripe.

Oh yeah, we're real hawks when it comes to the issue Clinton avoided during his presidency.  Darfur

Matt,I just read what you blo

Matt,

I just read what you blogged in a live forum....

This is totally disappointing.

What is the point of having all of this technology, if we're going to be limited to PBS to watch, or some other sort of dead (yes...I read it) dead site to comment?

Sorry to bust you here, but this should have been put on a "Live" chat room...we've done it before here.....

And if the sissy dem's would (not that they would....but the COULD if they chose to) have LIVE questions posed. 

That was about the lamest "debate" I think I've ever seen.

A bunch of sixth graders could have done a better job.

Sixth Graders

A bunch of sixth graders could have done a better job.

Think about it Blonde.  The debate was dumbed down for exactly that audience.  The Dems automatically assume African Americans are uneducated blind folliowers.

Nothing to see here.  Let's all just move along.

It has been 43 years since th

It has been 43 years since the Civil Rights Act. Black kids then are now middle ages with grown children of their own. Blacks have been running this country's foreign policy for the past 6 years. There was a successful Black attorney/ Senator who has a legitimate shot at his party's nomination for President up there. Blacks are the CEO's of major corporations and on the Boards of all. They are the power brokers in sports and entertainment. At what point in time do Blacks stop being victims? At what point in time does personal responsibility enter into this. Is there even a need for across the board affirmative action or forced school bussing anymore? And the Supreme Court's decision did NOT erase Brown v. Bd of Ed.

Matthew,He's speaking about 1

Matthew,

He's speaking about 10 words a minute. Limo liberalism at its finest. We need to make children go to preschool at 4. "Smaller classrooms". Yay!

Yeah, why wait until they are five when we can begin their journey into care-free, government-dependent liberal bliss at the age of four.

Hell, insted of waiting untill they are four, why not start their indoctrination at three, or is that going to be the "hot new idea" they are going to save for the 2012 election?

Help Fred Thompson defeat the RINOs along with the Hitllary/Obama axis & win the White House in '08.

I didn't watch, but am I sa

I didn't watch, but am I safe assuming sarcasmo's "what, if any, domestic federal program or agency would you entirely defund?" question wasn't asked? (Most of the Republican candidates also need to be asked this same question, but the closest anyone in the "news" media has come to it was Steven Colbert...)
JMR

Quite the contrary. Edwards l

Quite the contrary. Edwards laid his universal, all-encompassing social programs that will cost so much that it will bankrupt the U.S. Treasury except for the fact that Edwards is counting on selling off part of the U.S. to Venezuala and Mexico in exchange for their agreement to fund these welfare programs. That will also solve the immigration issue out west because all Mexicans will automatically become U.S. citizens.

But the main theme, other than pleasuring each other, was the 40 year old Democratic race card fight song. I don't think anyone on that stage has enough intellect to recall that Bill Clinton got elected in part because he refused to kiss Jesse Jackson's ring by not meeting with him.

Well, I still want to hear

Well, I still want to hear the question asked of other candidates, at least to see if they'll say what Reagan himself said about the (now even bigger!) Department of Education. I think Edwards is a dead candidate despite the media's love for dust-ups like the one between him and Coulter. I think the YouTube video of him killed his candidacy and the $400 haircut put the nails in his coffin, pity for his wife's cancer won't matter. And as a bald man who needs hats these days to avoid sunburn, I've noticed that all presidential candidates seem to have good hair (except Romney & Edwards, whose bipartisan hair factors are both beyond a mere "good"). Oh well, I guess that means America is safe.
JMR

Ha. Maybe that is why Biden o

Ha. Maybe that is why Biden opted for hair plugs before running for President. I'm not sure about Kucinich. That is either a bad rug or he should talk to Edward's hair stylist. With bald being "in" now in Hollywood and so many men shaving their heads I wouldn't be surprised if Edwards does it to try and get more attention for his dying candidacy.

God Help Us!!!......

*Music* -- Send In The Clowns!!!....There ought to be Clowns!!!!!...Don't Bother, They're Here!!!!! (Hopefully not next year!!!!)

Reagan Conservative/Jeffersonian Liberal. Whatever happend to that?

This was the most racist so-

This was the most racist so-called debate I have ever seen, I was furious before the whiz-bangs for the Dem party came out with the statement from the like of Tom Joiner and such. 

If any of the words that  were used in this presentation were reversed and it was a white group of any kind..or Covenant, a word I get sick of with Tavis Smiley and his book and his constant reverse racism jive for all the years I have listened to the slick talking hustler....

It was despicable, I would be embarrassed as a human being let alone a pathetic leftist to even be standing there and not walk out...but then again they have no shame.

They should.

Nothing of substance or importance came out of this fiasco of a debate, which was nothing but ME ME ME.... cradle to grave... white mans fault.... we the black race are the real people who are going to be running this govt. because we have been abused by white man and are owed it.... blah blah blah....

Sick to death of it all...

Everyone has the same opportunities in this country...get off your asses, quit blaming others...and shut the hell up.

Btw...The pompous arse Smiley was on the Wa. Journal this morning....check it out if you want to get mad all over again.

BT - My sentiments exactly. I

BT - My sentiments exactly. It has been 53 years since Brown v. Bd of Ed and 43 years since the Civil Rights Act. The young Black kids from those days are grown up and are at least middle aged with grown kids of their own. They have been running our foreign policy for the past 7 years, are the CEOs of major corporations and on the Boards of all of them, they are the Chair of some of the most powerful Congressional committees, are leading academics and theologians, and among the highest paid people in entertainment and sports, and own shopping centers, entertainment companies, publishing firms, and many others.

At what point in time does this stop? At what point in time does this endless cycle of victimization/government support stop? At what point does this dead old mantra of playing the race card stop?

And at what point do Blacks take personal responsibility for their own fate?