'The Daily Show’ Ridicules Bush-Supporting Vietnam Veteran


“The Daily Show” often pokes fun at President Bush and his closest advisors and Cabinet members, but isn’t it a little low, even for “The Daily Show,” to mock a Vietnam veteran because he supports the President?

On June 25, the Comedy Central show did exactly that, airing a pre-recorded and what appears to be a heavily edited interview with Bill Thomas, a Vietnam veteran who won four Bronze Stars and three Purple Heart medals. Back in April, Thomas decided to give one his Purple Heart to President Bush, believing that the President is a “a hero by virtue of the fact that he’s shown phenomenal courage in the face of bitter personal attacks on his competence, his integrity and everything else.”

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On Monday's program, “Daily Show” correspondent Jason Jones sarcastically mocked Thomas’ gesture, asking over and over again who his gift was intended for:

Jason Jones: “So Bill Thomas honored the President's courage under verbal fire by presenting him with one of his own Purple Hearts. (Sitting across from Thomas) Let me just get this straight. You were wounded by bullets and grenades three times and you gave your medal to the President who has been wounded by words.”

Bill Thomas: “Absolutely.”

Jones: “So you gave your medal to George Bush.”

Thomas: “Yes.”

Jones: “I got a quick follow-up to that, George W. Bush?”

Thomas: “George W. Bush, yes.”

Jones: “And he didn't take it.”

Thomas: “He did take it.”

Jones (incredulous): “He did?”

Thomas: “Pain is pain.”

Jones: “And his pain is real.”


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Yes, I guess that is a little

Yes, I guess that is a little low. As bad as, say, accusing a triple-amputee vet of helping bin Laden or accusing another wounded vet of lying to get his medals and Purple Hearts!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

let's see kerry did lie about

let's see kerry did lie about his service...was mocked...good...

this vet didn't lie about his service...was mocked...libs like waka waka look like assholes (because they are)...try the desperate bullshit equivelence above...not only look like assholes but also look moronically stupid...good

I just flagged your classy co

I just flagged your classy comments for moderation. I'm very sure the good people at NB will do the right thing and remove your offensive language.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Pure horse manure waka.Your i

Pure horse manure waka.

Your insipid posts here stand on their own....no need to edit anything you've posted.  

Reality is reality.

Deal with it.

I see nothing offensive in th

I see nothing offensive in the post.  You are just being childish.  It is not very helpful to the debate.  I know you are making a joke about the whole thing, but can't you put yourself in the place of this man's family?  They shamed him for doing something kind and honorable.  That is just wrong.  John Kerry was running for president and had made some awful statement about soldiers, he openned himself up to that kind of analysis.  All this man did was share something important to him with someone he respects.  I sincerely hope this man can see the emptiness of those who mocked him and instead of making him feel stupid, he realizes that this is really about them and not about him.  Actually, they illustrated his point, that the MSM is hatefilled when it comes to our president.

Hey wiki wiki, tell us again

Hey wiki wiki, tell us again how that "triple-amputee vet" got that way. Hint: it was an accident. He was climbing onto a helicopter, and a grenade he hadn't properly secured fell out.

As for Jean-Claude Kerry, one of my Dad's commanding officers also commanded Kerry a few years later in Vietnam. Many years later, he helped keep him from being elected President. If you have any credibly documented "lies" that the Swifties uttered, do share them.

And remember, Kerry himself never challenged any of the Swiftie "lies", and refused to debate Swift founder John O'Neill (gee, I wonder why?). Why was that?

Thanks for playing!

Thanks, Del,You saved me from

Thanks, Del,

You saved me from posting all that.  ; ^ )

Oh, and refresh my memory:  The guy Kerry supposedly [saved] from the river actually fell off the swiftboat because of Kerry's panic driving??

So you think critisizing a tr

So you think critisizing a true hero's personal choice to honor Bush is just as bad as critisizing another hero's personal choice (or even accusing them) of helping bin Laden?

Waka, do you even think? In fact, who are you referring to with the first reference there?

*reads signature* Oh wait, no you don't.

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"Mockery" seems l

"Mockery" seems like a stretch. I think the appropriate term for the interviewer's tone would be "incredulity," which is certainly my reaction to a war hero wanting to give his medals to Bush.

Besides which, I think a man who's been wounded three times at war is probably man enough to withstand hurt feelings at the hands of a fake journalist.

"If their sins were as scarlet, they are now white as snow" Isaiah 1:18

Yup, incredulity is more apt,

Yup, incredulity is more apt, not just at the gesture but the fact that Bush kept it. Later on in the piece, the vet even says he disagrees with Bush on a number of issues. Jason says, "Was one of them his keeping your purple heart?"

Oh come on guys, WHERE IS THE

Oh come on guys, WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE!?!?!?

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Outrage this waki one.......a

Outrage this waki one....

...along with your fellow comrades here.

Little Ronnie is in trouble seems to me.

Now Tom DeLay is free to go b

Now Tom DeLay is free to go back to stomping rats.

Then, perhaps you should keep

Then, perhaps you should keep your eyes directed skyward.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

fender...What a whiz-bang you

fender...

What a whiz-bang you are.

Impressive little critter indeed.

Better hope Delay doesn't meet your acquaintance speaking of stomping out rats.

ROFL.....

fender

fender-- better crawl into your hole while you can!

Ha ha ha. DeLay's trying to g

Ha ha ha. DeLay's trying to get off on a legalism. TOO ironic.
You do know he's still charged with two of three charges, don't you?

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Rather disengenuous of you

Rather disengenuous of you waka, why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt?

And will you come back and eat FRIGIN CROW if he is found innocent of the other trumped charges?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Hey BalDo you think this Jone

Hey Bal

Do you think this Jones dude needs to up the hearing aid or is he an ijit? 

Do you think this Jones dude needs to up the hearing aid or is he an ijit? 

Do you think this Jones dude needs to up the hearing aid or is he an ijit? 

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

I understand why Bush kept it

I understand why Bush kept it.  Gifts like that are not something you can easily turn down.  How would you propose our President turn it down?  It meant a lot to him to give it away and it would have hurt if Bush did not accept it.  Surely you have given away something that meant a lot to you.  

It's a lose lose situation fo

It's a lose lose situation for Bush. Just imagine the outrage if he turned it down. I'm sure some would accuse him of "presuming to be too good for a vetern" or something.

Be sure to get your daily Fred Thompson Fact!

Where are the Swift Boat Liar

Where are the Swift Boat Liars now that you need them?

Kerry's in Massachusetts tryi

Kerry's in Massachusetts trying to remove the first amendment the other two liars from the swift boats are in parts unknown 

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

What sort of scum calls Col.

What sort of scum calls Col. 'Bud' Day (Medal of Honor recipient and America's most highly decorated living veteran) a liar.

Why.. I guess you fit that bill.

Col. Day's whole life is a testement to honor, duty, valor and self-sacrifice, so I find it rather offensive when he's called a liar because he was a high profile supporter of SBVFT. But hey, that's just me.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out  my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

I don't get it. The more hono

I don't get it. The more honor a person has, the more you "patriots" savage them, right? When did you reverse your modus operandi?

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

We never did reverse our MO.

We never did reverse our MO. You're just too dumb and self-absorbed to see how those who disagreed with you really were in the first place. Instead you just resort to forming a cartoon image of villany.

Be sure to get your daily Fred Thompson Fact!

I don't get it. That much i

I don't get it.

That much is obvious. A pointless post from a pointless person.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

LOL! DO give us credible and

LOL! DO give us credible and documented evidence of the Swifties' "lies" please. Key words, "credible" and "documented".

As I noted in a comment above, I know one of the main Swifties, and his integrity is impeccable. Please prove him to be a liar!

Del, don't you remember when

Del, don't you remember when Kerry released his military records and completely disproved all those swift boat commercials?

Oh... wait... he didn't.

Defintion: "Swift-boated"
Having the truth "unfairly" told about you. (applies only to Democrats)

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Am I on the Huffington Blog o

Am I on the Huffington Blog or have the pissants taken over NewsBusters?

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

...and Jones, you are a real

...and Jones, you are a real pain in the a$$.

Thank you Mr. Thomas for everything you have done in your lifetime here on this earth.

You have my immense gratitude.

BT, do you honestly think tha

BT, do you honestly think that Jones was mocking this man's service? I think he was being incredulous that this man, a decorated war vet who Jones points out has been wounded by bullets and grenades, would give one of the symbols of that service to Bush because of the abuse he's taken from his critics.

Balboa - always seeing only t

Balboa - always seeing only the best - in Liberals...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

I try to see the best in most

I try to see the best in most people, regardless of leanings. I just don't think Jones was mocking this veteran. He didn't say "Are you stupid?" or "Were your injuries to the brain?" or "Are you on permanent disability?"

No, of course he didn't. Guys

No, of course he didn't. Guys, like him and the Daily Show don't go for the direct attack. They go for more for the mocking, condescending, and sneering route. We've all seen the Daily Show. We know how they operate. And I think you know it too.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

They go for more for the mock

They go for more for the mocking, condescending, and sneering route.

You mean like Ann does?

No, I'd say Coulter is more 

No, I'd say Coulter is more frontal in her methods - if the target deserves it. And she doesn't condescend that much...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

"Frontal"!? I urge everyone

"Frontal"!?
I urge everyone to listen carefully to the pathetic New England WASPy superciliousness Ann retreats into during her confrontation with Elizabeth. It's like a little child trying to argue with an adult.

An addition to the conversation: It came out today that Coulter WAS informed before the beginning of her interview that Elizabeth Edwards might be calling her during the interview. Not that the facts matter to you guys though. ANN IS A VICTIM!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

waki...You are really behind

waki...

You are really behind with the info in the posts here today...

You should read first before posting such as you did.

We all know that you posted and have commented as such.

I am tired of this subject now...going to post a new one here in a minute just for you on the left.

All right pretty gurl. Wait

All right pretty gurl.
Waiting.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

boa...Oh knock it the hell of

boa...

Oh knock it the hell off.

Of course he was mocking him...it sure as hell wasn't respect.

Period.

Sorry. We see it differently.

Sorry. We see it differently.

Might I suggest you take off

Might I suggest you take off your rose-colored glasses boa.

Join reality once in awhile.

Oh never-mind....I know you get your kicks out of being ridiculous at times.

Carry on...as you will...lol.

Maybe you and I would not acc

Maybe you and I would not accept the gift of a Purple Heart from the man who earned one, but it is not uncivil nor bad etiquette to graciously accept a gift given freely, wholeheartedly, without malice or desire for monetary gain, even for the POTUS.

If I wanted to be snarky like The Daily Show, I would juxtapose this Vietnam veteran against another well known Vietnam veteran named John Kerry who boldly threw away medals/ribbons of other servicemen, making sure I repeatedly asked him to clarify the ownership of those medals/ribbons or just repeatedly playing video of him saying over the years they were his until he finally fessed up.   

The problem with this Daily Show mock-erview was that the subject was not a public figure and was not profiteering from his actions, as was John Kerry.  How is this veteran fair game for such a personal affront? 

Additionally, the interviewer repeatedly asking the veteran if he gave the medal to Bush absolutely represents mocking and belittling of the veteran and Bush...unless the interviewer is hard of hearing.  Using the veteran as the sleazy setup for a joke borders on depraved indifference.  Bush as a public figure is fair game but the veteran was not, based on the video I saw.

Maybe you and I would not acc

Maybe you and I would not accept the gift of a Purple Heart from the man who earned one, but it is not uncivil nor bad etiquette to graciously accept a gift given freely, wholeheartedly, without malice or desire for monetary gain, even for the POTUS.

I know that. They were joking.

The problem with this Daily Show mock-erview was that the subject was not a public figure and was not profiteering from his actions, as was John Kerry. How is this veteran fair game for such a personal affront?

Additionally, the interviewer repeatedly asking the veteran if he gave the medal to Bush absolutely represents mocking and belittling of the veteran and Bush

They were not mocking the veteran. Watch the whole video at comedycentral.com. It wasn't a personal affront, nor belittling.

It's been a fantastic day BT

It's been a fantastic day BT...

Haven't seen libs weathering this kinda reality for quite a while:) - superb...

TM...Boy have you got that ri

TM...

Boy have you got that right....they have been swarming all over here today...and I just now actually sat down....I haven't even really fought back yet...of course you don't need to be sitting but it is so much more relaxing when work is done and you can enjoy it.

LOL...just making dinner to go and I am settled in....I think I am, ...that is.

Yes, well, you have a differ

Yes, well, you have a different perception of "reality" than I do.

Then, why the fascination wit

Then, why the fascination with us here, Balboa? I think that, maybe, somewhere, deep down, you suspect that we're right.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Some topics we share the same

Some topics we share the same reality; some we don't. I think we're dealing with overlapping dimensions. :-)

I still think my appraisal i

I still think my appraisal is correct. 

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

I think Balboa is a NBer from

I think Balboa is a NBer from the bizarro dimension, wants to be here but just does stuff backwards.   

yeah - a real one:) - and I r

yeah - a real one:) - and I really wish you could join us bal - but you obviously must be an s&m masochist:)!

Is the daily show still on

Is the daily show still on the air? Is it still funny, sometimes? I thought they got really angry for a while, angry mean, and who wants to watch that? It looks like they're still in their angry phase. Tata.

I'd forgotten all about them after they ordered their clips removed from Youtube.

Now he can give the other two

Now he can give the other two to Sen. George Voinovich and Sen. Richard Lugar .

fendertele, I try to avoid re

fendertele, I try to avoid replying to pointless drivel like yours, but I cannot refrain myself any longer. I don't know how old you are, but your posts convey the intellect of a 13 year old boy who is trying to be the cool kid on the playground.

School's out, so I suppose perhaps you really could be. I almost hope so.

OOOOOHH! Zing! Reality h

OOOOOHH! Zing!

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

To be fair, did you folks w

To be fair, did you folks watch all the way to the end? (I'd agree that the better humor was the easy "Cheney's branch of government" stuff, but this seemed ok in the bias dept. given that ending!)
JMR

I did! I did!

I did! I did!

I forget whether it was &qu

I forget whether it was "douche" or "douchebag" in the clip, but anyway, if I could have put subtitles like "Sam Donaldson is a douchebag" on everyone's TV in the decades when Sam was busy being a douchebag, I'd have been a lot happier! And ABC News would have become much more entertaining during Sam's douchebag-moments. :) So given that, I don't think the Daily Show was being all-that-biased on this one, but as many have pointed-out, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
JMR

I'll agree that it's in the e

I'll agree that it's in the eye of the beholder. Should be noted that at the end they pointed out -- with three arrows and a dinging noise -- that the vet was the true hero.

Sarc,Knowing The Daily Show's

Sarc,

Knowing The Daily Show's politics and - er - humor, do you really believe that they were offering a straight story about a wounded veteran giving the President one of his Purple Hearts because he admired his steadfastedness and they admired his gesture? This really stretches credulity beyond the pale, to the point that only Balboa would buy it.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

No they never do "straight" s

No they never do "straight" stories. They were doing a story about a decorated war veteran because they're amazed that he believes that the president deserves the vet's purple heart more than the he does, which strikes them as odd.

So, they put this gentleman o

So, they put this gentleman on as an oddity, so their young and liberally hip audience could sneer at his gesture - one he sincerely believes in? Yeah, that's much better, Balboa. Not condescending at all.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

No, that's not what I said. I

No, that's not what I said. I said his gesture strikes them as odd, considering it was the veteran who was actually wounded, and the president hasn't been.

Give it up BBoa! These people

Give it up BBoa! These people think that that faux news "comedy" showing "Prez Rush" is funny. There's no way they'll understand The Daily Show.

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

Comedy's tough.

Comedy's tough.

Waka,What, precisely is your

Waka,

What, precisely is your basis for the statement "Reality has a well known liberal bias"?

That's the idiot statement of the year.

Defend it, or go down in flames, waka.

Waiting for your amusing reply.

Ever the contrarian, Balboa

Ever the contrarian, Balboa you are splitting hairs and they seem to be on different heads.

The veteran's gesture of giving a medal to Bush can not be separated from the man himself.  The gesture was bourne out of the veteran's belief system.  The gesture quite possibly represented an outward display of an inner core value of the veteran, given that Purple Hearts (usually) come at a steep cost to the recipient.  (Please spare the mirror argument of what steep price did Bush pay for the medal.  Read my earlier post above for why accepting the medal from the veteran is not "odd".)

Finding the veteran's gesture "odd" implicates The Daily Show as finding the man "odd" as well.

I don't agree. Finding someon

I don't agree. Finding someone's gesture odd doesn't mean the man is odd. Good grief...did you watch the video? Ever?

The whole schtick is predica

The whole schtick is predicated on directly ripping on the veteran's reasoning/beliefs for giving Bush the medal.  That is mocking/belittling/insulting the veteran, both his gesture and his reasoning.  In order for this mockery to work, one needs to either believe in some fashion that Bush thinks he deserves or covets the medal or the veteran is daft.  Unless something is absurd, as in "odd", then the joke doesn't work.  Good luck finding a modicum of proof for either scenario.

Childishly using "three arrows and a dinging noise", as if this is proof positive of their respect for the veteran, represents a cheesey amelioration of their lack of respect for this man.  I suppose three arrows must mean respect while two represents mediocre respect and four would be cloyingly sentimental. 

It appears the purple heart medal has significant meaning for the veteran.  He did not give the medal away capriciously.  The gift was not a stick of gum you give to a friend or a blender you mechanically offer up to a newlywed couple.  The medal represented something deep and personal for the veteran.  That The Daily Show (and you?) find his reasoning and core values to be distinct from his "odd" gesture, and I firmly believe one can not parse the man from the gesture in this instance, belies a self-indulgent hipster cynicism that devalues all of us.

Sorry guys, I think I'm wit

Sorry guys, I think I'm with Bal on this one. It's possible they respect the veteran and his service, but DON'T respect George W. Bush's abilities as President and therefore don't understand the veteran's decision. In the end it goes back to my point: The veteran's not the one being called a douchebag in the piece, that's instead the fake newsman referencing himself. Again, would that others were that honest in the past...
JMR

Of course the joke was about

Of course the joke was about and on Bush primarily, but the joke wasn't advanced in this case without some expense to the veteran.

The Daily Show heard about the veteran and his gesture, tracked him down, set up an interview, distances were traveled for one of the participants, crews set up equipment, the interviewer prepared ahead of time what he wanted to say and how to shape the interview, and it was all done to ridicule Bush using the veteran and his gift without the veteran's awareness of that salient point.  Using the veteran in this context is goofing on the man.

Asking the veteran to describe his reasons for giving the medal to Bush, then repeating the question about who the recipient was is the premise for the entire schtick.  There was nothing spontaneous about the repeated questioning.  It was all contrived ahead of time.  Since this was on film and the interviewer presumably had good hearing and isn't retarded, The Daily Show could have made their point without repeatedly asking who recieved the medal.  Ask a question twice and maybe you didn't understand or heard what was said, or, maybe you are responding with surprise or incredulousness.  Asking a third time and your being snotty and goofing on the person. 

So, where you guys live, everyone asks you the same question three times?  Cause if they do, their goofing on you.

Apparently they can't figure

Apparently they can't figure out how questioning a man's decision over and over and over becomes insulting. After about the 2nd-3rd time the subtext becomes:
"you REALLY did this? I mean, REALLY? Geez what are you, a moron?"

Be sure to get your daily Fred Thompson Fact!

They were doing a story about

They were doing a story about a decorated war veteran because they're amazed that he believes that the president deserves the vet's purple heart more than the he does, which strikes them as odd.

Which just proves how stupid they are. Every soldier I've ever met has been extremely humble in their words and action. If you asked him, I doubt the vetern would ever say that he "deserved" the medal. He'd probably say what I've heard so many fine heroes say before: "I was just doing my job."

The medal is a sign and recognition of respect. Why can't you and the daily show understand that the vetern was giving Bush a sign of HIS respect for the commander in chief.

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"Every soldier I've ever

"Every soldier I've ever met has been extremely humble in their words and action."

I guess you've never met John Kerry, otherwise, he would be "seared" into your brain, like his Cambodia 'expiditions' were for him.

No, I've never gotten the cha

No, I've never gotten the chance to meet JK (thank the lord). Personally I consider him the exception that proves the rule.

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Lt. Col. Thomas is a decorate

Lt. Col. Thomas is a decorated veteran who admires his Commander in Chief. 

Last week on this site, Matthew Sheffield posted a piece, Journalism’s Faulty Paradigm (sorry, I’m not real sure how to link).  Matthew linked to an article by James Bowman, Getting It Right, David Halberstam and the  media’s ethos of irresponsibility.

As to David Halberstam and his coverage of the Viet Nam war (from Bowman)….

It was because he was attacking, exposing, shaming what at the time would have been regarded, by the media culture as by everyone else, as his own side that he became famous.

"Getting it right" is of course an admirable ambition for a journalist, but it is an exercise that has little in common with what generals and politicians must do, which is to lead others through situations of mortal peril with appallingly incomplete and inaccurate information to guide them. Getting it wrong is a given.

In my opinion, Lt. Col. Thomas understands and values leadership.  The folks at The Daily Show do not.  Instead, they appear committed to attacking, exposing, shaming.

Swifties

Stop asking the Libs to supply any proof of the "lies" told by the Swifties.  You have got to understand in their warped view, which is the same as their Global Warming stance, the debate is over and if you do not bow to their stance you are a denier, liar, or a Carl Rove robot.  Please don't confuse them by asking for proof and facts, the debate is already over and in their mind they have won.  You can tell by the way they will never respond to the request to back up their false claims.  Too bad lying isn't painful.