No, NYC will always be an eat-out place. But it will be interesting to see how the fast food chains and chinese restaurants handle this. Will it hurt their business?
There probably are not that many fans of the WWE on this website, but Chris Benoit was a very talented wrestler. I am stunned to think he would do this to his family, steroids or not. Below is a link and cut and paste of the article
This is the hardest piece I’ve ever had to write for this website, which is partly why I’m keeping it short.
Since
the news that the bodies of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy and his
seven-year-old son Daniel were found on Monday night, I’ve been emailed
around the clock asking for my thoughts on what is a shocking tragedy.
In all honesty, I’ve found it extremely hard to even take in the events
of the past day or so, but I thought I should write something.
Chris
Benoit is a guy who I have watched wrestle for around fifteen years.
This is a guy who inspired a generation of fans to want to become
wrestlers. This is a guy who inspired a generation of wrestlers to aim
to be as good as him. Simply put, he was one of the greatest wrestlers
I’ve ever seen, and a hero to many. I was in attendance at Madison
Square Garden in New York City for WrestleMania XX back in 2004.
Everybody who is a wrestling fan knows how great a moment it was to see
Benoit win the World Heavyweight Title and close the show celebrating
with his friend Eddie Guerrero. But as much as I want to look back on
the memories and thank Chris Benoit for years of great wrestling
matches, I simply can’t.
He is a murderer.
It pains
me to write that, but this story is not about wrestling. WWE yesterday
distanced themselves away from Benoit after facts about what happened
over the weekend began to come out, and rightfully so. Everybody has
the right to have an opinion, but right now I find it extremely hard
for anybody to be able to show any compassion or appreciation for a man
who has killed not only his wife, but his son. An innocent,
seven-year-old son. Not only that, like many murderers, he took the
cheap way out and killed himself.
I know there are people
who will read this and think I am being harsh, but while I do feel for
his friends and surviving family members, I just cannot bring myself to
feel anything other than anger and dismay at what has happened. While
the headline may seem harsh to some, I find it impossible to give my
opinion based on what we’ve learnt over the past day or so by referring
to Chris Benoit in any other way.
With regards to Chris
Benoit’s state of mind and mental condition, I don’t want to speculate.
Were the deaths brought on as a result of “roid rage"? I doubt it. I do
believe that when toxicology reports are revealed that investigators
will announce that steroids were in Chris Benoit’s system, but I just
don’t buy into the theory that this was a double-murder that happened
because of steroid use or abuse. Will we know the full story of what
led to Benoit killing the two people closest to him? Perhaps not. I’m
not even sure I want to know the full story.
I’m sure that I’ll have more to say at a later date, but I felt I should share a little of what’s on my mind right now.
To
a loyal, loving, and extremely talented Nancy Benoit, and to a sweet,
innocent, Daniel Benoit who had his whole life ahead of him, Rest in
Peace.
I'm not a wrestling fan, but Howard Stern covered the tribute and then the distancing one day later. The side effects of steroids (seen in my own highschool) combined with law enforcement's approach to them is one of many things that made me disrespect big government's tax and spend drugwar from the time I was a teenager. JMR
Howard Stern is my all time favorite. I either had the choice of a DVR by comcast or satelite radio and I picked the DVR. I truly miss Howard. I heard he has since gotten engaged to Beth and Artie is leaving the show as well Sarc?
Yeah, he's getting married to Beth, and the day he announced they had Chris Rock in to give him all his own old crap about marriage, which was hilarious. But Beth's a sweet girl, so I'm happy for them. $500 for a lifetime of all this content (forget Stern) is a steal of a deal, go buy it. Today they did an excellent piece on just how much of Led Zeppelin's music was actually cover songs from other bands, which was fascinating. Artie's not leaving, he's just weirded-out a bit, but the money's too damn good if my guess is right for him to repeat Jackie's mistake. Robin (my queen!) and Mr. X broke up (I want to date her!). JMR
Yup, fighting crime and addiction is such a "Big Government" waste of time, huh? Better to spend our taxes on roads we don't need and studies of whether pigs get sunburns than law enforcement. And we don't need that big armed forces either, they guzzle up a lot of taxes, don't they? Surely they citizens can handle terrorists and hostile nations without it.
Of course, we can always "decriminalize" drugs to make them less dangerous but we should do that to with things like hiring hit men and robberies, cause then they would take the danger out of them too.
But it's supposedly a free market issue. Defective car seats and tires that explode should be sold too and not banned, since after all are illegal drugs really are is a defective "product." It's not about the free market, it's about fighting crime.
Only Satchmo the big mouthed *Liberal*tarion can use a story where steroids may have led a horrific murder to springboard how we should be lax about them.
With all due respect, you can take your social anarchist, pro-addiction/slavery, pro-drug dealer, pro-death and pro-degradation of society drivel somewhere else. There is a lot of crap that we pay much higher taxes for, why is it this so-called "Libertarian" (basically a liberal in disguise) focus on his precious soul-sucking drugs he so treasures. Really shows his priorities, don't it? Screw children and life, he says. And just like liberals, he'll resort to half-baked conspiracy theories. Or he'll say I'm a socialist just like those who want to ban fast food. Yup, like slurping down a cheeseburger and shooting heroin up your ass are on the same level.
Or best yet, hie yourself off to Sweden or the Netherlands, where they have "enlightened" drug laws. Those countries have high suicides rates and drug dealers who can write-off "business expenses" of their "trade" like guard dogs, armed guards and assault rifles, but at least they don't have the horrible "drug war big government taxes" to pay because they're dead.
Nah, Bal, that would be like holding Major League Baseball responsible for doing exactly the same thing, and we can't have THAT! These team owners are BIG political contributors to both "major" parties' candidates. It therefore can't be their fault. See the logic?? JMR
Ohhhh! NOW I get it! :-) It's stupid. You can't tell me that Barry Bonds didn't juice up. Colin Cowherd was saying today that the average WWE wrestler is 30% bigger than the average NFL guy. "How are they doing that? With PowerAde?"
I totally agree with you. Anyone who would kill a little kid like he did is a pig. An animal. And anything that went before means nothing after that betrayal.
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
Didn't something happen a couple of years ago with Lex Lugar and Ms. Elizabeth? I think she died at his house or something like that. I don't remember the whole story, but I know something happened to her and I think it was at his house. Also I used to like the Von Erichs back in the 80's and I think three of the brothers are dead, and if I'm not mistaken 2 of them were suicides.
"To be the man, you have to beat the man WOOOOOO!!!!!" Ric Flair
You are correct Carl. They found steroids at Lex Lugars house and Miss Elizabeth is dead. Eddie Guerrro died last year from what I remember to be steroid as abuse as well, and Davy Boy Smith. Don't know much about the Von Erichs
"To be the man, you have to beat the man WOOOOOO!!!!!" Ric Flair
My goodness Carl are you a wrestling jedi as well as a tv jedi? lol
Wow...Good thing big government's done so much since I was in highschool against actually-dangerous drugs used by public figures kids look-up-to, eh? JMR
I liked the wrastling from the 80's, so I don't know too much since then. I thought Kerry Von Erich was a cool wrestler. They used to have 3 man team matches and the Von Erichs were always on the same team. Guys like Jerry "The King" Lawler, Harley Race, King Kong Bondy, etc. were pretty entertaining I thought. And don't forget Andy Kaufman was a pretty good wrastler too.
"To be the man, you have to beat the man, WOOOOOOO!!!!" Ric Flair
Eddie Guerrro died from heart failure. He was clean at the time of his death. His past drug use caught up with him but he was sober for about 4 years. I read some doctors report that stated wrestlers age about 6 times faster as non wrestlers. Not sure how true that is but considering the large number of death at such young ages it just might be
The Road Warriors are still the greatest tag team of all time. Animal and Hawk were unbeatable and had the coolest name of all time. How about Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka when he used to jump off the top turnbuckle? I think professional rasslers(You use the correct pronunciation) would make better politicians than what we seem to have now. In fact I'm writing in Rowdy Roddy Piper for President next year.
this is absurd on its face. Let me see if I have this straight..
This Chris Benoit fellow and his family are dead because of a 'roid OD. It is beyond sad that had to happen to him or his family. However, I take SERIOUS issue over the fact that he used steroids. What was he juicing for? You don't "wrestle" anyone on WWE. Its ALL staged. People who follow wrestling as if it was the NFL are annoying. Like I said it's way too bad that horrible incident occured, but what the crap was he roiding for? the camera?
balboa you hit the nail on the head. And YES Sarcasmo. the MLB SHOULD be held accountable. ZF nailed you.
Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.
I will say that strength is important because of the stunts these guys do, which are insane, but the 'roids are all for show. These guys' popularity lives and dies by "The Show." The bigger, buffer, tougher they look, the better.
It's all fun and games until somebody murders their family and then commits suicide. Time for this roid rubbish to stop. Sarc. You ough to be ashamed of yourself for turning the deaths of those innocent people around to your whiney "big government drug war"... Shame on you
Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.
And just to complete the prediction, are you saying that big government should have spent even more of my taxes on the steroid aspect of the tax and spend drugwar? I'm not "whining" because I happen to be FINANCING this stupidity, by the way, so either: 1. Ronald Reagan was "whining" about that microphone he paid for, or: 2. STFU with YOURwhining about my legitimate financial questions regarding this waste, since "I'm paying for that tax and spend drugwar," to paraphrase President Reagan. JMR
You call it "stupidity", yet those nations that have decriminalized drugs all have one thing in common: membership in Unsane's "Going Nowhere" Club. I would much prefer the United States NOT join the "Going Nowhere" Club.
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Answer the question, rather than making allegations about "going nowhere" that can't be proved (and teen drug statistics tend to refute you in Amsterdam, anyway). Should we spend even-more taxes to prevent this, or not?? JMR
Teen drug statistics in Amsterdam refute me? Oh, my bad. I forgot about the great superpower of the Netherlands with its insanely dynamic economy.
Yes, the entire world trembles and cowers in fear at the mention of the Netherlands, not to mention our reliance on the Guilder as a reserve currency.
(You should seriously consider moving to AK. You'd fit right in with your extreme obsession with drugs, and your exploding with rage at anyone who dares disagree with you on the subject...)
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Where's the rage?? All I see is refutation on my part, and dodging the question AGAIN on your part. One more time, more taxes or less taxe$ should be spent on this abject failure? Which alternative?? JMR
You are not the sheriff around here. If you don't like my answer, deal with it. Now, go whine and cry about how "I deflected", "didn't answer you", "failed ninth grade debate", or "I took another one to the woodshed again!!! I am the smartest human being ever!!! I am 1,000,000% right all the time!!!!" or whatever the hell it is you do when you encounter someone who disagrees with you.
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Can't formulate answer when losing? Attack alleged massive ego instead!! Funny!!! But still an ad hominem loser. I'll repeat the question you refuse to answer for hilarious reasons: More Taxes or Less Taxes should be spent on this failure?? And I know it's in your nature to lie about me (see below) but I'm still a libertarian, as I say, not an anarchist, as you lyingly claim. The truth is, wanting less government in the USA these days is a HELL of a long way from anything resembling "anarchy," like it or not. The fact that you pretend otherwise suggests your real feelings for big government, despite your rhetoric, IMO. JMR
I'm not. You people are instead obsessed with this argument because you continually lose it, due to the fact that you people are "For" big government in this case, and it works just as "well" as it works when you're rightly against big government in other cases -- as in this incident. Therefore, I get to make fun of you and big government's failures at the same time. This situation naturally creates cognitive dissonance on your part, but you're completely unable to make any case that I'm less-obsessed with stupid BS like the FCC. As for costs, keeping this many people in jail on my wallet is substantial even if enforcement costs were ignored, and I don't ignore 'em. JMR
"You people are instead obsessed with this argument because you continually lose it..."
Really? Since when did the Libertarians get a majority in Congress or win the Presidency? Doesn't seem to me that we are losing this argument whatsoever.
Oh, silly me, I forgot. sarcasmo is THE smartest human being in the world, and none of us should ever dare oppose him. In fact, we need to make him PFL IMMEDIATELY.
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Look, if you support big government when it's failing, you're the ones who look like obsessed losers to me. And the fact that you're consistently losing state law elections WRT medical pot and have to compromise on principled issues like the 10th Amendment (see Thomas dissent in Raisch) seems to prove my point. It's not about the Libertarian party, it's about a failed big government policy. JMR
Let ALL the state law elections win. The feds still have outlawed pot.
Not to mention I got to see you drug-obsessed losers go down in FLAMES in AK in 2004 in your push to legalize pot in full up there (due to a 1975 AK Supreme Court decision, up to 1 oz of marijuana is perfectly legal...at least in state eyes). Only Juneau voted in support of it. It was great, especially after enduring stupid commercial after stupid commercial that tried to make it a right-to-privacy issue and a humanitarian issue ("I need pot for my MS!!!"). Not to mention, the losers that tried to get me to sign the petition to put the thing on the ballot themselves looked and acted like they dabbled a bit much in what the locals call the "MTF".
Now, if you think I am a big-government supporter because I like to see laws get enforced and society preserved, well, then you are a blithering idiot with an extreme selective literacy problem. Sorry, sarc, but I LIKE the idea of a United States on the forefront of civilization, constantly contributing to world progress with innovation, invention and industry. Hence I cannot, and will not, support the idea of decriminalizing drugs. Deal with it.
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If your answer to 10th amendment principle-issues is "so," then I rest my case. Want to actually ruin the stoner ex-roomate's life and harsh his buzz, since you seem to project so much of him on me? "The power to tax is the power to destroy." A corollary: "Enforcement power, while it seems outwardly "tough," is really only the ability to create a wasteful black market if people want something. JMR
It's nice to know that you are 100% okay with living in a rotting, decaying America that goes absolutely nowhere, so long as people burn as many blunts as they want and shoot up as much as they want.
Just Because People Want It Doesn't Mean They Should Have It. North Korea wants weapons-grade plutonium. Should they have it just because they want it? Or, how about pedophiles? Should they be allowed on elementary school campuses just because "they want it"?
So, I am projecting a stoner onto you? Sounds like you have a guilty conscience...
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Your propensity to lie about me when you're losing is showing again, but I guess that's easier than formulating a coherent debate. You can try to conflate crimes with victims and crimes without all you want, but the idea that I want America to "go nowhere" is as laughable as the idea that asking you to give a straight answer to a "More Taxes" or "Less Taxes" question is assuming the role of a "sheriff" instead of just a debater who continually whups your dumb (you "admit" it about as much as I "admit" anything above!) ass. :) JMR
"Simply put, he was one of the greatest wrestlers I’ve ever seen, and a hero to many."
Sorry, but I get so sick of people using the word hero to define althletes, race car drivers, public speakers, rich philantropists. It makes me want to punch them. Ok, so this man wrestled, pray tell, what the frack is so heroic about that? Same with Earnhardt. The guy drove a car fast around a track, what the hell is so heroic about that? Oprah is worth billions and she give lots of money away, but percentage wise, it is probably pretty close to what most church goers give away in their tithe, however, I don't care if she gives 20 billion away, what is so heroic about that? It may be honorable, but not herioc!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amber - probably like yourself - just supposing - my hero was my dad, and I have no shame (lacking in todays popular culture) in saying that. He was there, taught, talked and corrected me (when needed - seemed often) and yet gave me the freedom to make my young stupid mistakes, and helped me learn from them. And, yes, he was a hero, a south pacific 5th air corp, ground troop war survivor, and I think of him everyday.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dadV
I wish I could say that. My father was murdered in '96 while I was in Basic training.
For me, people who sacrifice for others, not caring or thinking about the cost to themselves, that is heroic. I smile when I hear people who fought and survived places like Bastogne saying they are not heroes....I think even they have a false sence of what a hero truely is because in my book, although they did not know it at the time, they sacrificed themselves every day for the guy next to them, the people dying in concentration camps, every European, and even Americans. They are heros in my book, not someone who makes millions by being an entertainer. The guys over in Iraq and Afganistan, they may not realize all that they have done for our safety, just by their mere presence in those countries, but some day, God will tell them. And the wives and parents and children who stay home and stand strong, they have sacrificed their greatest love; for duty, honor, and country, every bit as much as those soldiers have.
I'm wondering if the president, because of his present stand on immigration, wasn't slipped a mickey, if you will, with some kool aid at some demolib gathering with the mass orcha. I can understand the lib position of letting "undocumented" workers into the country, no moral standards or standars of any kind being the opperative motivation - but what got into Mr. Bush? There hasn't been any, that I know of, any explenation of why illegals should be given all the rights, priviledges of citizens, or why they should be allowed to skip the line. Had to be something in the demolib beverages, had to be.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dadV
I would just like to take this opportunity to say how much I love real men. Manly men. Warriors.
Last night I watched "Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg and I couldn't help noticing that although it was a great movie with a lot of stuff blowing up and bad guys getting shot, there was the inevitable trickle of liberal drivel that made it in. Like the whole "I'm upset at the government so I'm going to sit on a mountain and sulk and get all sullen and stuff" mentality of the so-called man-of-principle that Hollywood always has to portray.
I turned to my beloved at one point and opined that a real man wouldn't sulk or get all sullen or make some sort of grandiose statement. He'd just quietly and powerfully BE a man.
And that's why I love conservative men. They know how to be men. They don't have to act or pretend. They just go break heads and don't act like it was any big deal.
So to all the real men, the warrior class out there: You are what is right about conservative ideology. You are what we find in the fire departments, the police forces, the military, and wherever real integrity, bravery, strength, and power are needed. Let the whiners on the left whimper and dream.
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
My wife and I have what we call the "Bruce Willis Barometer" in deciding whether or not to see a Bruce Willis movie: the more he is beat up and bloody, the better the movie is going to be.
Granted, this rule is not 100% accurate (ie: "The Sixth Sense" rocked, and Bruce only bled a little at the end), but, for the most part, we have been satisfied with the results: Sin City, Die Hard, Last Man Standing, Armageddon, Pulp Fiction, all good flicks. The Whole Nine Yards, Looks Who's Talking, Mercury Risnig, Hudson Hawk: all pieces of crap.
Yes "Last Man Standing" is almost 100% identical to "A Fistful of Dollars". "A Fistful of Dollars" is based on a Japanese Samurai movie, but I can't remember the name of the movie. Has anyone ever seen that one? It must be extremly cool, since "A Fistful of Dollars" is definatly in my top 5 movies of all time.
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it". The Man With No Name
Yojimbo, starring Toshiro Mifune and directed by Akira Kurosawa (who also directed Seven Samuri, the model for the Magnificant Seven, as well tons of other movies that influenced a lot of American flicks). I developed a fondness for Kurosawa watched "Saturday Samuri" movies on IFC. I think they're still on.
I am glad you posted this, Curious. I was trying to find the name of that movie. I will sleep well tonight! Kurosawa's "Ran" is one of my top 10 (or maybe top 20 these days) movies of all time.
Thanks Curios. I had forgotten that "Magnificent Seven" was also based on a Japanese Samuari movie. How about the song "Magnificent Seven" by the Clash. I think that was the theme song for the movie.
I'm also thinking about making some robots that look like Yul Brenner and making a make believe Western town and having people come visit this place and they can have make believe gun fights against my robot that looks like Yul Brenner. Anyone think this is a good idea?
"I'm a man of means by no means, King of the Road" 'King of the Road'
The wife and I caught it last night too, full of DNC talking points. May I recommend "THE SHOOTIST"? Real men are found raising families,sacrificing every waking moment of his precious life for his wife and kids, not for praise, but because that is what he thought was lacking in his childhood. Damn the obstacles and steady ahead. All he really wants is good kids to turn into good people who raise good grandchildren. "300" has real men running amok!
300 sucked. I love history and I was ready for a good flick, but I was totally disappointed. There was not much in that movie that was historical, other than the fact that Leonidas was King of the Spartans (they had 2 kings, though and no one said anything about that) and that they went to Thermoplae. I absolutely hated it.
I don't have a problem with some creative license, you need that, I also did not have a problem with the comic book appearance. What I hated was that they did not stick to any part of history in the movie. People saw it and thought that is basically how it went down. There were a couple thousand people with the spartans fighting, one group of well trained soldiers as well, plus they never included their slave class in the film either and the slaves fought with the spartans. They did not show the Spartans letting everyone leave, but many people chose to stay. They also showed Leonidas kill an envoy in Sparta by kicking him down the black hole. That did not happen either. They made Xerxes out be be a faggot like god which was far from the truth. I also find it very hard to believe the politics that were going on at home. Every Spartan was a diciplined warrior, the women even fought and yet, they chose to take vast license and show the rape of Leonidas's wife. The whole film was about how they could sexually gratify each twisted member of the audience. Can't get off on man on women? We will have woman on woman, or beast on woman. Can't get off on normal sex? Well, we will toss in a rape for you and some nude young girls while we are at it, just for the pedophiles. It was aweful, horribly done. It had nothing to do with the history of the event and they cheapened the acheivments of the real men and women who fought. I hated it. I certainly hope "Gates of Fire" is done better when it is made.
For historical accuracy in a manly movie, I suggest "ZULU", with Michael Caine. 300 had a bunch of Chippendale poses and rock for the wife, slow motion hand to hand combat for me. Didn't mean to upset you, just a movie.
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Mike's a giving kind of guy
June 27, 2007 - 10:05 ET by sarcasmoMike's a giving kind of guy...
JMR
He seems very confused to me.
June 28, 2007 - 01:08 ET by amberHe seems very confused to me. Simply odd.
NY city readies for trans-f
June 27, 2007 - 10:05 ET by JDWNY city readies for trans-fat ban. Will more people be eating at home?
JDW
News media: Scoreboard for terrorists
No, NYC will always be an eat
June 27, 2007 - 11:53 ET by GothampcNo, NYC will always be an eat-out place. But it will be interesting to see how the fast food chains and chinese restaurants handle this. Will it hurt their business?
You correct and they were m
June 27, 2007 - 12:13 ET by JDWYou correct and they were my primary focus.
Regarding the hoi-poli, my thought was personal chefs for those who do not require the nighttime facetime.
JDW
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Chris Benoit
June 27, 2007 - 10:06 ET by shawn228There probably are not that many fans of the WWE on this website, but Chris Benoit was a very talented wrestler. I am stunned to think he would do this to his family, steroids or not. Below is a link and cut and paste of the article
http://www.wrestlema...
This is the hardest piece I’ve ever had to write for this website, which is partly why I’m keeping it short.
Since
the news that the bodies of Chris Benoit, his wife Nancy and his
seven-year-old son Daniel were found on Monday night, I’ve been emailed
around the clock asking for my thoughts on what is a shocking tragedy.
In all honesty, I’ve found it extremely hard to even take in the events
of the past day or so, but I thought I should write something.
Chris
Benoit is a guy who I have watched wrestle for around fifteen years.
This is a guy who inspired a generation of fans to want to become
wrestlers. This is a guy who inspired a generation of wrestlers to aim
to be as good as him. Simply put, he was one of the greatest wrestlers
I’ve ever seen, and a hero to many. I was in attendance at Madison
Square Garden in New York City for WrestleMania XX back in 2004.
Everybody who is a wrestling fan knows how great a moment it was to see
Benoit win the World Heavyweight Title and close the show celebrating
with his friend Eddie Guerrero. But as much as I want to look back on
the memories and thank Chris Benoit for years of great wrestling
matches, I simply can’t.
He is a murderer.
It pains
me to write that, but this story is not about wrestling. WWE yesterday
distanced themselves away from Benoit after facts about what happened
over the weekend began to come out, and rightfully so. Everybody has
the right to have an opinion, but right now I find it extremely hard
for anybody to be able to show any compassion or appreciation for a man
who has killed not only his wife, but his son. An innocent,
seven-year-old son. Not only that, like many murderers, he took the
cheap way out and killed himself.
I know there are people
who will read this and think I am being harsh, but while I do feel for
his friends and surviving family members, I just cannot bring myself to
feel anything other than anger and dismay at what has happened. While
the headline may seem harsh to some, I find it impossible to give my
opinion based on what we’ve learnt over the past day or so by referring
to Chris Benoit in any other way.
With regards to Chris
Benoit’s state of mind and mental condition, I don’t want to speculate.
Were the deaths brought on as a result of “roid rage"? I doubt it. I do
believe that when toxicology reports are revealed that investigators
will announce that steroids were in Chris Benoit’s system, but I just
don’t buy into the theory that this was a double-murder that happened
because of steroid use or abuse. Will we know the full story of what
led to Benoit killing the two people closest to him? Perhaps not. I’m
not even sure I want to know the full story.
I’m sure that I’ll have more to say at a later date, but I felt I should share a little of what’s on my mind right now.
To
a loyal, loving, and extremely talented Nancy Benoit, and to a sweet,
innocent, Daniel Benoit who had his whole life ahead of him, Rest in
Peace.
I'm not a wrestling fan, bu
June 27, 2007 - 10:14 ET by sarcasmoI'm not a wrestling fan, but Howard Stern covered the tribute and then the distancing one day later. The side effects of steroids (seen in my own highschool) combined with law enforcement's approach to them is one of many things that made me disrespect big government's tax and spend drugwar from the time I was a teenager.
JMR
Howard Stern is my all
June 27, 2007 - 10:20 ET by shawn228Howard Stern is my all time favorite. I either had the choice of a DVR by comcast or satelite radio and I picked the DVR. I truly miss Howard. I heard he has since gotten engaged to Beth and Artie is leaving the show as well Sarc?
Yeah, he's getting married
June 27, 2007 - 10:40 ET by sarcasmoYeah, he's getting married to Beth, and the day he announced they had Chris Rock in to give him all his own old crap about marriage, which was hilarious. But Beth's a sweet girl, so I'm happy for them. $500 for a lifetime of all this content (forget Stern) is a steal of a deal, go buy it. Today they did an excellent piece on just how much of Led Zeppelin's music was actually cover songs from other bands, which was fascinating. Artie's not leaving, he's just weirded-out a bit, but the money's too damn good if my guess is right for him to repeat Jackie's mistake. Robin (my queen!) and Mr. X broke up (I want to date her!).
JMR
Yup, fighting crime and addic
June 27, 2007 - 10:53 ET by zfYup, fighting crime and addiction is such a "Big Government" waste of time, huh? Better to spend our taxes on roads we don't need and studies of whether pigs get sunburns than law enforcement. And we don't need that big armed forces either, they guzzle up a lot of taxes, don't they? Surely they citizens can handle terrorists and hostile nations without it.
Of course, we can always "decriminalize" drugs to make them less dangerous but we should do that to with things like hiring hit men and robberies, cause then they would take the danger out of them too.
But it's supposedly a free market issue. Defective car seats and tires that explode should be sold too and not banned, since after all are illegal drugs really are is a defective "product." It's not about the free market, it's about fighting crime.
Only Satchmo the big mouthed *Liberal*tarion can use a story where steroids may have led a horrific murder to springboard how we should be lax about them.
With all due respect, you can take your social anarchist, pro-addiction/slavery, pro-drug dealer, pro-death and pro-degradation of society drivel somewhere else. There is a lot of crap that we pay much higher taxes for, why is it this so-called "Libertarian" (basically a liberal in disguise) focus on his precious soul-sucking drugs he so treasures. Really shows his priorities, don't it? Screw children and life, he says. And just like liberals, he'll resort to half-baked conspiracy theories. Or he'll say I'm a socialist just like those who want to ban fast food. Yup, like slurping down a cheeseburger and shooting heroin up your ass are on the same level.
Or best yet, hie yourself off to Sweden or the Netherlands, where they have "enlightened" drug laws. Those countries have high suicides rates and drug dealers who can write-off "business expenses" of their "trade" like guard dogs, armed guards and assault rifles, but at least they don't have the horrible "drug war big government taxes" to pay because they're dead.
In a free market, defective
June 27, 2007 - 10:56 ET by sarcasmoIn a free market, defective products garner lawsuits. And I'm staying right here, like it or not. Hopefully "not."
JMR
So you're saying, "Blame
June 27, 2007 - 11:15 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveSo you're saying, "Blame the drugs, not the person." Do I have that correct?
And how did our drug laws protect Benoit's family? And how did the laws protect him from himself?
They didn't? Hmmm....
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson
I'd blame the higher-ups at
June 27, 2007 - 11:17 ET by balboaI'd blame the higher-ups at WWE(F) too, for allowing this atmosphere to fester, where it's OK to be a 'roid monster.
Nah, Bal, that would be lik
June 27, 2007 - 11:19 ET by sarcasmoNah, Bal, that would be like holding Major League Baseball responsible for doing exactly the same thing, and we can't have THAT! These team owners are BIG political contributors to both "major" parties' candidates. It therefore can't be their fault. See the logic??
JMR
Ohhhh! NOW I get it! :-) It
June 27, 2007 - 11:27 ET by balboaOhhhh! NOW I get it! :-) It's stupid. You can't tell me that Barry Bonds didn't juice up. Colin Cowherd was saying today that the average WWE wrestler is 30% bigger than the average NFL guy. "How are they doing that? With PowerAde?"
It's "Drugwar Uber All
June 27, 2007 - 11:33 ET by sarcasmoIt's "Drugwar Uber Alles" flavored Kool-Aide! ;)
JMR
I'm sure someone will draw
June 27, 2007 - 11:18 ET by sarcasmoI'm sure someone will draw this conclusion, so I'll pre-draw it. "So we need to spend even more tax money on the problem, obviously."
JMR
Sarc a liberal?? ROTFLMAO.................
June 27, 2007 - 12:46 ET by florida_chadZF - you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today?
I totally agree with you. A
June 27, 2007 - 10:16 ET by HelenSI totally agree with you. Anyone who would kill a little kid like he did is a pig. An animal. And anything that went before means nothing after that betrayal.
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
Didn't something happen a cou
June 27, 2007 - 10:22 ET by Carl KolchakDidn't something happen a couple of years ago with Lex Lugar and Ms. Elizabeth? I think she died at his house or something like that. I don't remember the whole story, but I know something happened to her and I think it was at his house. Also I used to like the Von Erichs back in the 80's and I think three of the brothers are dead, and if I'm not mistaken 2 of them were suicides.
"To be the man, you have to beat the man WOOOOOO!!!!!" Ric Flair
You are correct Carl. T
June 27, 2007 - 10:29 ET by shawn228You are correct Carl. They found steroids at Lex Lugars house and Miss Elizabeth is dead. Eddie Guerrro died last year from what I remember to be steroid as abuse as well, and Davy Boy Smith. Don't know much about the Von Erichs
"To be the man, you have to beat the man WOOOOOO!!!!!" Ric Flair
My goodness Carl are you a wrestling jedi as well as a tv jedi? lol
Wow...Good thing big govern
June 27, 2007 - 10:32 ET by sarcasmoWow...Good thing big government's done so much since I was in highschool against actually-dangerous drugs used by public figures kids look-up-to, eh?
JMR
I liked the wrastling from th
June 27, 2007 - 10:42 ET by Carl KolchakI liked the wrastling from the 80's, so I don't know too much since then. I thought Kerry Von Erich was a cool wrestler. They used to have 3 man team matches and the Von Erichs were always on the same team. Guys like Jerry "The King" Lawler, Harley Race, King Kong Bondy, etc. were pretty entertaining I thought. And don't forget Andy Kaufman was a pretty good wrastler too.
"To be the man, you have to beat the man, WOOOOOOO!!!!" Ric Flair
Eddie Guerrro died from heart
June 27, 2007 - 10:58 ET by jcrapes4Eddie Guerrro died from heart failure. He was clean at the time of his death. His past drug use caught up with him but he was sober for about 4 years. I read some doctors report that stated wrestlers age about 6 times faster as non wrestlers. Not sure how true that is but considering the large number of death at such young ages it just might be
Wait a minute. Lex Lugar is n
June 27, 2007 - 10:32 ET by Roger the ShrubberWait a minute. Lex Lugar is not only a US senator, but a professional rassler, too?
The Road Warriors are still t
June 27, 2007 - 10:39 ET by Carl KolchakThe Road Warriors are still the greatest tag team of all time. Animal and Hawk were unbeatable and had the coolest name of all time. How about Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka when he used to jump off the top turnbuckle? I think professional rasslers(You use the correct pronunciation) would make better politicians than what we seem to have now. In fact I'm writing in Rowdy Roddy Piper for President next year.
Nah, the greatest tag team ha
June 27, 2007 - 12:11 ET by Roger the ShrubberNah, the greatest tag team has to be either:
The Moondogs
or
The feared Baron Mikel Scicluna/Stan "The Man" Stasiak combo
How about the Rock and Roll E
June 27, 2007 - 15:01 ET by Airforce_5_OHow about the Rock and Roll Express? <Sarc off>
Rock and Roll Express
June 28, 2007 - 01:25 ET by Carl KolchakMy boys and I have haircuts like the wrestlers from Rock and Roll Express. Those haircuts rule!
WWE Wrestling is FAKE
June 27, 2007 - 12:33 ET by Six String Spiffthis is absurd on its face. Let me see if I have this straight..
This Chris Benoit fellow and his family are dead because of a 'roid OD. It is beyond sad that had to happen to him or his family. However, I take SERIOUS issue over the fact that he used steroids. What was he juicing for? You don't "wrestle" anyone on WWE. Its ALL staged. People who follow wrestling as if it was the NFL are annoying. Like I said it's way too bad that horrible incident occured, but what the crap was he roiding for? the camera?
balboa you hit the nail on the head. And YES Sarcasmo. the MLB SHOULD be held accountable. ZF nailed you.
Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.
I will say that strength is
June 27, 2007 - 12:37 ET by balboaI will say that strength is important because of the stunts these guys do, which are insane, but the 'roids are all for show. These guys' popularity lives and dies by "The Show." The bigger, buffer, tougher they look, the better.
It's all fun and games until...
June 27, 2007 - 12:50 ET by Six String SpiffIt's all fun and games until somebody murders their family and then commits suicide. Time for this roid rubbish to stop. Sarc. You ough to be ashamed of yourself for turning the deaths of those innocent people around to your whiney "big government drug war"... Shame on you
Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.
There are some astounding f
June 27, 2007 - 12:53 ET by balboaThere are some astounding facts about the death rates of former "pro" wrestlers. It's an industry that's got serious problems.
Roids are against the law. Ye
June 27, 2007 - 12:57 ET by florida_chadRoids are against the law. Yet the murderer had them. So it appears the drug war isn't going so well. No shame in pointing that out.
BTW - at best, only two of them were innocent. Maybe only one. The DA reported the boy had needle marks in his arm.
0 shame here. None.
June 27, 2007 - 13:01 ET by sarcasmoNope, 0 shame for pointing out the truth, even when that truth happens to be truth big government's fans dislike. I repeat: Zero shame. Goose-egg.
JMR
And just to complete the pr
June 27, 2007 - 13:06 ET by sarcasmoAnd just to complete the prediction, are you saying that big government should have spent even more of my taxes on the steroid aspect of the tax and spend drugwar? I'm not "whining" because I happen to be FINANCING this stupidity, by the way, so either: 1. Ronald Reagan was "whining" about that microphone he paid for, or: 2. STFU with YOUR whining about my legitimate financial questions regarding this waste, since "I'm paying for that tax and spend drugwar," to paraphrase President Reagan.
JMR
On Going Nowhere
June 28, 2007 - 06:58 ET by UnsaneYou call it "stupidity", yet those nations that have decriminalized drugs all have one thing in common: membership in Unsane's "Going Nowhere" Club. I would much prefer the United States NOT join the "Going Nowhere" Club.
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Answer the question, rather
June 28, 2007 - 07:07 ET by sarcasmoAnswer the question, rather than making allegations about "going nowhere" that can't be proved (and teen drug statistics tend to refute you in Amsterdam, anyway). Should we spend even-more taxes to prevent this, or not??
JMR
GOING NOWHERE
June 28, 2007 - 07:21 ET by UnsaneTeen drug statistics in Amsterdam refute me? Oh, my bad. I forgot about the great superpower of the Netherlands with its insanely dynamic economy.
Yes, the entire world trembles and cowers in fear at the mention of the Netherlands, not to mention our reliance on the Guilder as a reserve currency.
(You should seriously consider moving to AK. You'd fit right in with your extreme obsession with drugs, and your exploding with rage at anyone who dares disagree with you on the subject...)
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Where's the rage?? All I se
June 28, 2007 - 07:24 ET by sarcasmoWhere's the rage?? All I see is refutation on my part, and dodging the question AGAIN on your part. One more time, more taxes or less taxe$ should be spent on this abject failure? Which alternative??
JMR
Yes, I believe that taxes sho
June 28, 2007 - 07:36 ET by UnsaneYes, I believe that taxes should be used to enforce the law (GASP!!!). Shocking, isn't it?
I do not see how this is an abject failure. Unless, of course, you desperately want to see the United States enter the "Going Nowhere Club"...
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Not an answer. I asked &quo
June 28, 2007 - 07:43 ET by sarcasmoNot an answer. I asked "even higher" or "not higher"? Once again, which one. Straight answer, please, for once.
JMR
You are not the sheriff aroun
June 28, 2007 - 07:57 ET by UnsaneYou are not the sheriff around here. If you don't like my answer, deal with it. Now, go whine and cry about how "I deflected", "didn't answer you", "failed ninth grade debate", or "I took another one to the woodshed again!!! I am the smartest human being ever!!! I am 1,000,000% right all the time!!!!" or whatever the hell it is you do when you encounter someone who disagrees with you.
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I'll take that as: "mo
June 28, 2007 - 08:03 ET by sarcasmoI'll take that as: "more & more taxes, just like always in this failure of big and growing government, but I simply don't want to be seen admitting it." :^) It can't possibly be a problem for US taxpayers when we have 5% of the world's population but must support 25% of its prison-population. Thanks.
JMR
Ego
June 29, 2007 - 02:11 ET by UnsaneI'll take that as your hyper-massive ego striking again.
I actually like law enforcement. I am not the anarchist you are.
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Can't formulate answer when
June 29, 2007 - 03:38 ET by sarcasmoCan't formulate answer when losing? Attack alleged massive ego instead!! Funny!!! But still an ad hominem loser. I'll repeat the question you refuse to answer for hilarious reasons: More Taxes or Less Taxes should be spent on this failure?? And I know it's in your nature to lie about me (see below) but I'm still a libertarian, as I say, not an anarchist, as you lyingly claim. The truth is, wanting less government in the USA these days is a HELL of a long way from anything resembling "anarchy," like it or not. The fact that you pretend otherwise suggests your real feelings for big government, despite your rhetoric, IMO.
JMR
What was he juicing for?Money
June 27, 2007 - 12:44 ET by florida_chadWhat was he juicing for?
Money, plain and simple. Same as the baseball players.
Stupid ol' truth. It never
June 27, 2007 - 13:03 ET by sarcasmoStupid ol' truth. It never quite conforms to hypocrites' ideology, does it??
JMR
Sarcasmo
June 27, 2007 - 15:02 ET by Six String SpiffWhy are you SO passionate about drug war spending and not as passionate about other programs that drain your wallet exponentially more?
By the way calm the F*ck down.
Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.
I'm not. You people are ins
June 28, 2007 - 07:09 ET by sarcasmoI'm not. You people are instead obsessed with this argument because you continually lose it, due to the fact that you people are "For" big government in this case, and it works just as "well" as it works when you're rightly against big government in other cases -- as in this incident. Therefore, I get to make fun of you and big government's failures at the same time. This situation naturally creates cognitive dissonance on your part, but you're completely unable to make any case that I'm less-obsessed with stupid BS like the FCC. As for costs, keeping this many people in jail on my wallet is substantial even if enforcement costs were ignored, and I don't ignore 'em.
JMR
"You people are instead
June 28, 2007 - 07:39 ET by Unsane"You people are instead obsessed with this argument because you continually lose it..."
Really? Since when did the Libertarians get a majority in Congress or win the Presidency? Doesn't seem to me that we are losing this argument whatsoever.
Oh, silly me, I forgot. sarcasmo is THE smartest human being in the world, and none of us should ever dare oppose him. In fact, we need to make him PFL IMMEDIATELY.
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"You people are instead
June 28, 2007 - 07:39 ET by UnsaneDamn double posts...
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Look, if you support big go
June 28, 2007 - 07:42 ET by sarcasmoLook, if you support big government when it's failing, you're the ones who look like obsessed losers to me. And the fact that you're consistently losing state law elections WRT medical pot and have to compromise on principled issues like the 10th Amendment (see Thomas dissent in Raisch) seems to prove my point. It's not about the Libertarian party, it's about a failed big government policy.
JMR
So?
June 28, 2007 - 07:53 ET by UnsaneLet ALL the state law elections win. The feds still have outlawed pot.
Not to mention I got to see you drug-obsessed losers go down in FLAMES in AK in 2004 in your push to legalize pot in full up there (due to a 1975 AK Supreme Court decision, up to 1 oz of marijuana is perfectly legal...at least in state eyes). Only Juneau voted in support of it. It was great, especially after enduring stupid commercial after stupid commercial that tried to make it a right-to-privacy issue and a humanitarian issue ("I need pot for my MS!!!"). Not to mention, the losers that tried to get me to sign the petition to put the thing on the ballot themselves looked and acted like they dabbled a bit much in what the locals call the "MTF".
Now, if you think I am a big-government supporter because I like to see laws get enforced and society preserved, well, then you are a blithering idiot with an extreme selective literacy problem. Sorry, sarc, but I LIKE the idea of a United States on the forefront of civilization, constantly contributing to world progress with innovation, invention and industry. Hence I cannot, and will not, support the idea of decriminalizing drugs. Deal with it.
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If your answer to 10th amen
June 28, 2007 - 08:00 ET by sarcasmoIf your answer to 10th amendment principle-issues is "so," then I rest my case. Want to actually ruin the stoner ex-roomate's life and harsh his buzz, since you seem to project so much of him on me? "The power to tax is the power to destroy." A corollary: "Enforcement power, while it seems outwardly "tough," is really only the ability to create a wasteful black market if people want something.
JMR
Begging the USA to go nowhere
June 29, 2007 - 02:16 ET by UnsaneIt's nice to know that you are 100% okay with living in a rotting, decaying America that goes absolutely nowhere, so long as people burn as many blunts as they want and shoot up as much as they want.
Just Because People Want It Doesn't Mean They Should Have It. North Korea wants weapons-grade plutonium. Should they have it just because they want it? Or, how about pedophiles? Should they be allowed on elementary school campuses just because "they want it"?
So, I am projecting a stoner onto you? Sounds like you have a guilty conscience...
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Your propensity to lie abou
June 29, 2007 - 03:35 ET by sarcasmoYour propensity to lie about me when you're losing is showing again, but I guess that's easier than formulating a coherent debate. You can try to conflate crimes with victims and crimes without all you want, but the idea that I want America to "go nowhere" is as laughable as the idea that asking you to give a straight answer to a "More Taxes" or "Less Taxes" question is assuming the role of a "sheriff" instead of just a debater who continually whups your dumb (you "admit" it about as much as I "admit" anything above!) ass. :)
JMR
"Simply put, he was one
June 27, 2007 - 14:10 ET by amber"Simply put, he was one of the greatest wrestlers
I’ve ever seen, and a hero to many."
Sorry, but I get so sick of people using the word hero to define althletes, race car drivers, public speakers, rich philantropists. It makes me want to punch them. Ok, so this man wrestled, pray tell, what the frack is so heroic about that? Same with Earnhardt. The guy drove a car fast around a track, what the hell is so heroic about that? Oprah is worth billions and she give lots of money away, but percentage wise, it is probably pretty close to what most church goers give away in their tithe, however, I don't care if she gives 20 billion away, what is so heroic about that? It may be honorable, but not herioc!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amber - probably like yoursel
June 27, 2007 - 14:47 ET by FastEdamber - probably like yourself - just supposing - my hero was my dad, and I have no shame (lacking in todays popular culture) in saying that. He was there, taught, talked and corrected me (when needed - seemed often) and yet gave me the freedom to make my young stupid mistakes, and helped me learn from them. And, yes, he was a hero, a south pacific 5th air corp, ground troop war survivor, and I think of him everyday.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
I wish I could say that. My
June 27, 2007 - 15:00 ET by amberI wish I could say that. My father was murdered in '96 while I was in Basic training.
For me, people who sacrifice for others, not caring or thinking about the cost to themselves, that is heroic. I smile when I hear people who fought and survived places like Bastogne saying they are not heroes....I think even they have a false sence of what a hero truely is because in my book, although they did not know it at the time, they sacrificed themselves every day for the guy next to them, the people dying in concentration camps, every European, and even Americans. They are heros in my book, not someone who makes millions by being an entertainer. The guys over in Iraq and Afganistan, they may not realize all that they have done for our safety, just by their mere presence in those countries, but some day, God will tell them. And the wives and parents and children who stay home and stand strong, they have sacrificed their greatest love; for duty, honor, and country, every bit as much as those soldiers have.
Yes, Hero is not a word that
June 28, 2007 - 09:00 ET by Hero SquadYes, Hero is not a word that should be thrown about lightly.
*****
"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown
I'm wondering if the presiden
June 27, 2007 - 10:10 ET by FastEdI'm wondering if the president, because of his present stand on immigration, wasn't slipped a mickey, if you will, with some kool aid at some demolib gathering with the mass orcha. I can understand the lib position of letting "undocumented" workers into the country, no moral standards or standars of any kind being the opperative motivation - but what got into Mr. Bush? There hasn't been any, that I know of, any explenation of why illegals should be given all the rights, priviledges of citizens, or why they should be allowed to skip the line. Had to be something in the demolib beverages, had to be.
There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V
I would just like to take thi
June 27, 2007 - 10:13 ET by HelenSI would just like to take this opportunity to say how much I love real men. Manly men. Warriors.
Last night I watched "Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg and I couldn't help noticing that although it was a great movie with a lot of stuff blowing up and bad guys getting shot, there was the inevitable trickle of liberal drivel that made it in. Like the whole "I'm upset at the government so I'm going to sit on a mountain and sulk and get all sullen and stuff" mentality of the so-called man-of-principle that Hollywood always has to portray.
I turned to my beloved at one point and opined that a real man wouldn't sulk or get all sullen or make some sort of grandiose statement. He'd just quietly and powerfully BE a man.
And that's why I love conservative men. They know how to be men. They don't have to act or pretend. They just go break heads and don't act like it was any big deal.
So to all the real men, the warrior class out there: You are what is right about conservative ideology. You are what we find in the fire departments, the police forces, the military, and wherever real integrity, bravery, strength, and power are needed. Let the whiners on the left whimper and dream.
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
Live Free or Die Hard
June 27, 2007 - 10:33 ET by Hero SquadFret not, Helen, for "Live Free or Die Hard" premieres Friday. And it's getting pretty strong reviews.
Sorry, not "pretty." I meant, "manly."
*****
"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown
YAY!!! Now I know where to
June 27, 2007 - 10:36 ET by HelenSYAY!!! Now I know where to use the movie theater gift card that I got at our company party! Thanks for the recommendation :o)
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
My wife and I have what we ca
June 27, 2007 - 10:43 ET by Roger the ShrubberMy wife and I have what we call the "Bruce Willis Barometer" in deciding whether or not to see a Bruce Willis movie: the more he is beat up and bloody, the better the movie is going to be.
Granted, this rule is not 100% accurate (ie: "The Sixth Sense" rocked, and Bruce only bled a little at the end), but, for the most part, we have been satisfied with the results: Sin City, Die Hard, Last Man Standing, Armageddon, Pulp Fiction, all good flicks. The Whole Nine Yards, Looks Who's Talking, Mercury Risnig, Hudson Hawk: all pieces of crap.
I can't decide on Twelve Monkeys, though, haha.
You gotta LOVE the opening of
June 27, 2007 - 10:54 ET by HelenSYou gotta LOVE the opening of Armageddon! Slicing golf balls at a Greenpeace boat to the sounds of ZZTop! Too much fun!!!
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
...a-ha-ha-ha-haw...I love La
June 27, 2007 - 11:20 ET by Mean Gene Dr. Love...a-ha-ha-ha-haw...
I love La Grange...it's the best ZZ Top song ever, it went great with that scene.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson
Rog
June 27, 2007 - 11:25 ET by BurroCrane 3098Has anyone else noticed that Last Man Standing http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116830/is a remake (modernized,ie...semi-auto guns instead of revolvers, cars instead of mules) of Eastwood's Fist Full Of Dollars http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/ ?
Good point. Who did you like
June 27, 2007 - 12:08 ET by Roger the ShrubberGood point. Who did you like better:
El Indio
or
Luther?
I have to go with Indio, easy
June 27, 2007 - 13:06 ET by BurroCrane 3098I have to go with Indio, easy to dislike.
I have to go with Indio, easy
June 27, 2007 - 13:06 ET by BurroCrane 3098I have to go with Indio, easy to dislike.
He was Ramone
June 27, 2007 - 13:22 ET by Carl KolchakHe was El Indio in "For a Few Dollars More" and Ramone in "A Fistull of Dollars"
"The heart Ramone. Aim for the heart" The Man With No Name
Ramon...yes.
June 27, 2007 - 13:31 ET by BurroCrane 3098Ramon...yes.
Ack. Thx for pointing that ou
June 27, 2007 - 23:18 ET by Roger the ShrubberAck. Thx for pointing that out Carl.
Yes "Last Man Standing&q
June 27, 2007 - 13:29 ET by Carl KolchakYes "Last Man Standing" is almost 100% identical to "A Fistful of Dollars". "A Fistful of Dollars" is based on a Japanese Samurai movie, but I can't remember the name of the movie. Has anyone ever seen that one? It must be extremly cool, since "A Fistful of Dollars" is definatly in my top 5 movies of all time.
"I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it". The Man With No Name
Yojimbo, starring Toshiro Mif
June 27, 2007 - 14:29 ET by curiousYojimbo, starring Toshiro Mifune and directed by Akira Kurosawa (who also directed Seven Samuri, the model for the Magnificant Seven, as well tons of other movies that influenced a lot of American flicks). I developed a fondness for Kurosawa watched "Saturday Samuri" movies on IFC. I think they're still on.
I am glad you posted this, Cu
June 27, 2007 - 23:16 ET by Roger the ShrubberI am glad you posted this, Curious. I was trying to find the name of that movie. I will sleep well tonight! Kurosawa's "Ran" is one of my top 10 (or maybe top 20 these days) movies of all time.
Thanks Curios. I had forgot
June 28, 2007 - 01:28 ET by Carl KolchakThanks Curios. I had forgotten that "Magnificent Seven" was also based on a Japanese Samuari movie. How about the song "Magnificent Seven" by the Clash. I think that was the theme song for the movie.
I'm also thinking about making some robots that look like Yul Brenner and making a make believe Western town and having people come visit this place and they can have make believe gun fights against my robot that looks like Yul Brenner. Anyone think this is a good idea?
"I'm a man of means by no means, King of the Road" 'King of the Road'
I was pleasantly surprised
June 27, 2007 - 11:29 ET by balboaI was pleasantly surprised by Twelve Monkeys. Really cool. But you're right about the others. You just can't beat the first two Die Hards.
Yeah, I kinda liked it, but i
June 27, 2007 - 12:01 ET by Roger the ShrubberYeah, I kinda liked it, but it was a little hard to follow, until about the 3rd time watching it. That makes it a typical Terry Gilliam movie, haha.
Terry Gilliam. Wouldn't you
June 27, 2007 - 12:38 ET by balboaTerry Gilliam. Wouldn't you love a peak inside his head?
shooter
June 27, 2007 - 10:43 ET by the mad poleThe wife and I caught it last night too, full of DNC talking points. May I recommend "THE SHOOTIST"? Real men are found raising families,sacrificing every waking moment of his precious life for his wife and kids, not for praise, but because that is what he thought was lacking in his childhood. Damn the obstacles and steady ahead. All he really wants is good kids to turn into good people who raise good grandchildren. "300" has real men running amok!
300 sucked. I love history
June 27, 2007 - 14:21 ET by amber300 sucked. I love history and I was ready for a good flick, but I was totally disappointed. There was not much in that movie that was historical, other than the fact that Leonidas was King of the Spartans (they had 2 kings, though and no one said anything about that) and that they went to Thermoplae. I absolutely hated it.
It actually wasn't supposed
June 27, 2007 - 14:30 ET by balboaIt actually wasn't supposed to be an exact historical re-enactment. It was based on the comic book "300."
I don't have a poblem with so
June 27, 2007 - 14:45 ET by amberI don't have a problem with some creative license, you need that, I also did not have a problem with the comic book appearance. What I hated was that they did not stick to any part of history in the movie. People saw it and thought that is basically how it went down. There were a couple thousand people with the spartans fighting, one group of well trained soldiers as well, plus they never included their slave class in the film either and the slaves fought with the spartans. They did not show the Spartans letting everyone leave, but many people chose to stay. They also showed Leonidas kill an envoy in Sparta by kicking him down the black hole. That did not happen either. They made Xerxes out be be a faggot like god which was far from the truth. I also find it very hard to believe the politics that were going on at home. Every Spartan was a diciplined warrior, the women even fought and yet, they chose to take vast license and show the rape of Leonidas's wife. The whole film was about how they could sexually gratify each twisted member of the audience. Can't get off on man on women? We will have woman on woman, or beast on woman. Can't get off on normal sex? Well, we will toss in a rape for you and some nude young girls while we are at it, just for the pedophiles. It was aweful, horribly done. It had nothing to do with the history of the event and they cheapened the acheivments of the real men and women who fought. I hated it. I certainly hope "Gates of Fire" is done better when it is made.
history smistory
June 27, 2007 - 19:22 ET by the mad poleFor historical accuracy in a manly movie, I suggest "ZULU", with Michael Caine. 300 had a bunch of Chippendale poses and rock for the wife, slow motion hand to hand combat for me. Didn't mean to upset you, just a movie.
I was not upset, at least not
June 28, 2007 - 00:34 ET by amberI was not upset, at least not with you, more like, upset I spent all that money on the movie.
Zulu? I don't remember that movie. When did it come out?