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By NB Staff | June 26, 2007 - 11:04 ET

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Folks, this is must-see com

Folks, this is must-see commentary from a humor genius. FINALLY, another presidential candidate I can actually support!
JMR

Would you pardon the Girls Gone

Q: Would you pardon the "Girls Gone Wild" guy?

Dave Barry: He has suffered enough.

Well, Barry certainly makes a good first impression. However, I'm not sure if General Zod will appreciate the competition.

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Take a look at these...JMRQ

Take a look at these...
JMR

Q As president, whom would you use your three secret kills on? homeybeef, Chicago 6/20/07

A I would use all three on Geraldo, just to be sure. Dave Barry 6/23/07

Q My ex-husband passes great quantities of foul, evil-smelling gas. I'm just letting you know in case you become Commander in Chief because the Pentagon didn't return my calls. Shari, san francisco, ca 6/20/07

A He is as good as on the way to Iran. Dave Barry 6/23/07

General Zod..........I laughe

General Zod..........I laughed my a** off at that one.  Very clever and funny!!  Thanks for the laugh Hero.

Thx for making my day, HS. Gr

Thx for making my day, HS. Great site. You, too Sarc. I enjoyed them both!

Mr. Zod, will there be lots o

Mr. Zod, will there be lots of toys when you are President?

- Katie Vargas
Spokane, WA

General Zod replies: Child, let me explain something quite important to you. Under my new order, I allow you to live. In return for your obedience, you enjoy my generous protection. I expect tribute. Your tricycle, your dolls, everything you own. All these you will gladly give to me. All swear allegience to Zod!

 

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Hindu prayer to open US Sen

Hindu prayer to open US Senate

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Hi-jacking

I have seen little, if any, press coverage of Senator Obama's recent appearance before (I think) the United Church of Christ convention. He proceeded to SLAM Evangelicals for what he called the hi-jacking of religion. He went on to say that the only thing that they care about is dispariging gays, gay marriage, and the right to choose. He accused Evangelicals of not caring about anything but tax cuts for the rich.

I am not shocked by his positions, I expected it. I am not shocked by the invitation he recieved from the United Church of Christ to speak there. It is common knowledge that the United Church of Christ is one of the most liberal organizations in the nation.

It also does not shock me at the total lack of media coverage over this. I expected it and it enrages me.

I covered it yesterday, her

I covered it yesterday, here's a link to the story I used.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

I can't believe Obama says th

I can't believe Obama says those things.  Isn't the POTUS supposed to govern all types of people?  A huge number of evangelicals are black.  Does he think that he automatically gets their vote?

I like to think about what Go

I like to think about what God thinks about it:)! No worries...

TM's expert sound bit analysis:

"evangelicals are hijacking religion" - evangelicals could care less about religion - libs care more about that "appearances" kinda stuff - phrase is primarily designed to divide Christians during next election - what a great guy you are Obama:)!

evangelicals love everyone and we are concerned for your well being (love your neighbor as yourself) - we want to help everyone maintain a healthy and safe lifestyle - we don't like to see anyone dying of aids or any other STD's - libs often call this "disparaging gays"

Christians believe that marriage is entirely created by God - we do not have the power to change it at all - marriage is a sacred faith tenent - just like fundamentalist Muslims and their Koran - which must not be flushed down the toilet - disrespecting someone's faith is an abomination to libs (unless it's fundamentalist Christianity) - but in short Christians are completely powerless to support the idea of "gay marrage" or "ped marriage" or "marriage between person and horse" etc - libs call this "disparaging gay marriage"

a baby is protected by existing murder laws, libs call this "an assault on a mother's right to choose" - sometimes they also call it "tax cuts for the rich" - we're not sure why...

The classic paradigm of of

The classic paradigm of legal proceedings has undergone revolutionary changes. Today rehabilitation of the offender overrides all else in our judicial system. "Terrorists are now protected" under the US Constitution. Dems call this justice.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

We bad..............evangelic

We bad..............evangelicals.......

  • Vast- we are numerous, we are everywhere
  • Right - conservative
  • Wing - just part of the whole "Christain" world
  • Conspiracy - out to change the world from Jesus' point of view

Who are we?

  • Jesus said - My way is the High Way - we agree
  • Jesus said - woe to him who harms one of these little ones - including the unborn - we agree
  • Jesus said - I hate divorce, adultery, fornication, sodomy, but I love all people - we agree

Birds of a feather - b hussein obama "evangelicals are hijacking religion",  hillary r clinton "...this vast right-wing conspiracy that has been conspiring ..."


"People think we're paranoid when we talk about the vast right-wing conspiracy, but there is a real connection of these groups -- the same names keep popping up," said NH dem party chairman Kathy Sullivan. "They are the most disgusting group of political thugs that I have ever seen."

I think NB covered this a f

I think NB covered this a few days ago. Believe it or not, the original story was in the Washington Post.

Obama Says Some Have Hijacked Faith

The most telling part of the story was the "explanation" of the differences between conservative and liberal Christians:

Theological conservatives believe gay relationships violate Scripture,
while more liberal Christians emphasize the Bible's social justice
teachings.
(emphasis mine).

Nice job comparing apples to oranges, dontcha think?

cvg...You don't expect the li

cvg...

You don't expect the liberal MSM to stir things up against a Dem do you?

Just imagine someone with an (R) next to their name doing the same thing. The liberal MSM would stone them to death in the town square.

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!

Notice Paris Hilton. DO NOT

Notice Paris Hilton. DO NOT notice this.
JMR

And while you're not notici

And while you're not noticing vitally-important stuff that's barely-covered at all by the news media, you might also want to take a non-look at this often-ignored moral point of view on taxes & taxpayers, which I happen to share. (Cloaking device reactivated -- back to Paris Hilton's social life...) Oh, and by the way BT and anyone else interested, I've had 0 media interest in the e-gold DOJ-scandal Faux News was unable to cover truthfully, either, from anyone in the media, so either: 1. no journalists read NB or: 2. none care too damn much about financial privacy, believe whichever option you wish...At this point, I'm down to contacting the ACLU. Literally. And they'll probably ignore me, too. Oh well. Continue with coverage of Paris Hilton's tw....
JMR

Geeesh...Sarc sure is hung up

Geeesh...

Sarc sure is hung up on Paris. Kind of creepy.

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!

Surfing the credit bubble. th

Surfing the credit bubble. the stock market went from 12,000 to 13,000 in what 135 days? 1929 ish?  We live in a dangerous world.

Was anyone watching Fox News

Was anyone watching Fox News today, around 10:25am this morning. Something called Helens Court (or some such) was on, and they had a discussion of the girl's chastiy suit. She wants to wear a bracelet; the school rejects it based upon religion intolerance, even though muslim girls are allowed to wear headscarfs as part of their religion. IMO, another straight-forward example of selective bias against the religious basis of the US, masqueraded as a "consititutional separation" argument.

Well, they had this woman on providing arguments in favor of the ban. Here's what she said, believe it or not: "We have to have such bans. Suppose another pop-up religion surfaces next week, and they say they have to wear bracelets of naked women. How could we, if we want to be fair, reject that if we now give in to Christianity"?

Another pop-up religion? What an ass. Here we go again -- selective moral equivalency. I like how they use moral equivalency in these situations; yet reject moral equivalency whenever someone brings up the argument about homosexual marriage: "If men are allowed to marry men, what's to prevent three people from marrying each other"? This is always dismissed as nonsense by the radical left fringe -- yet, "pop-up" religions are always a legitimate concern.

Why are these people allowed to breath oxygen?

I think I've spotted gills on

I think I've spotted gills on some of our most prominent liberal 'celebs'.

Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar. 

TnT: I'm a big fan of the lik

TnT: I'm a big fan of the likes of Judge Alex and Judge Judy. What's Helen's Court?

I would also like to ask why the bracelet was identified as a specifically religious statement. Did it include reference to Jesus? Or was it just about chastity?

I agree that if a Muslim girl is allowed to wear her head covering in school, then a Christian girl should be allowed to wear a bracelet which signifies her religious beliefs. I suppose one could argue that it's a matter of "a requirement of the faith" (like the footbaths) as opposed to something that is a voluntary statement (such as the bracelet). Are Christian students in this school permitted to wear crosses?

I agree that there are "pop-up" religions that often focus their beliefs on single issues. But this is no excuse for discriminating against any religion. Of course, you must admit that it can get sticky if someone decides to wear a shirt or jewelry that espouses a particular prejudice against one  group or another based on religious tenets. For instance, surely no school would allow a Muslim student to wear a shirt or jewelry espousing "beheading the infidels". If an expression of one's religious faith is respectful and shows no hatred or prejudice toward others, then it should be permitted. And if the grown-ups in any school don't have enough good judgment and common sense to tell the difference, then they shouldn't be teaching or administering in the public schools of America.

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria

I finished another mediocre

I finished another mediocre and cliched book last night - Deception Point by Dan Brown, he of The DaVinci Code (it was loaned to me). It had all the usual cliches - a beautiful, brilliant, (and liberal) heroine, a handsome - yet lonely - widower hero, a dorky, yet loveable, scientist sidekick, some evil Delta Force soldiers bent on killing the afore mentioned, a noble, kindly, and grandfatherly Democrat president, and - you guessed it - an evil, greedy, and corrupt conservative Republican US senator running for the presidency - and southern to boot! We discuss here the liberal biases in the movies. I'd submit that popular fiction books are even more rife with it - and they put out a lot more books than movies. You'd think that, just to be different, some author would avoid these liberal cliches, but it doesn't happen often.

You know, Chris, you bring up

You know, Chris, you bring up an interesting point, but allow me to submit why, long ago, I decided not to read any Dan Brown novels.

Earlier this decade, I found myself doing a great deal of air travel.  I noticed that anytime I was on a plane or in an airport, at least 1/3 to 1/2 of passengers had copies of one of his books, especially The DaVinci Code.  And that, as snooty as it sounds, was enough for me. 

If Everybody Is Reading It, It Can't Be That Great.  (Now, that isn't quite universally true, but widespread popularity to me is a major warning sign.)

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

Unsane,You're a snob.Absolute

Unsane,

You're a snob.

Absolutely correct.  But a snob.

:D

Blonde, I am not a snob, I ju

Blonde, I am not a snob, I just think my tastes in books, music, and women (among other things) are better and more refined than anyone else's. 

:-D

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

Silly, Uns,A snob.Congrats...

Silly, Uns,

A snob.

Congrats....that's a fine thing to be.

Nicely done.

Me thinks the New York Times

Me thinks the New York Times is trying to destroy Rupert Murdoch's rep with this.  Do they have an agenda?

Got to do a few things before

Got to do a few things before I can sit and enjoy NB's for awhile but just wanted to mention that Cloture Vote is coming up in a few minutes in the Senate on the Illegal Immigration Bill.

Going to be interesting...hope not as maddening as I expect it to be.

Lol....

Catch ya' later.

And now, today's Zod-free Shr

And now, today's Zod-free Shrub Report®:

Happy 62nd anniversary of the signing of the UN Charter. How will you be celebrating? Celebrate like a Peacekeeper: rape a child or accept a bribe today!

Okay. The obvious reason for this story is either;

  1. most people are too stupid to understand what Our Lord and Saviour Al Gore is saying
  2. The Church needs to ratchet up the fear campaign

The latest on the Doogie Haji story this Report covered last week.

Latest in the growing trend of what this Shrubber calls Hispanic Faux Outrage Syndrome.

The Barzini family sits down with the Corleones…

90 years ago today, the first American combat troops landed in France. You're welcome, you ungrateful Euro-weenies.

Scientists to begin ground-breaking study on pro wrestling.

Perhaps our Democrat(ic) leaders should stick to more politically-correct sports, like cup-stacking?

One more piece of Pittsburgh news: Funeral director collects baby fetuses. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Oh, and the lawyer in the photo is also the lawyer representing the two po black folk who let their children burn to death while they were out partying.

On this date, 137 years ago, Christmas was declared a legal holiday in the USA.

64/35...on Cloture....here we

64/35...on Cloture....here we go again .

I am furious...nothing new there when it comes to this.

So what's this deal about Lar

So what's this deal about Larry Kudlow suggesting that liberals don't get a fair shake because conservative talk radio has all the money? It seems he suggested that libs do better on the Internet because it's less expensive. Heard about this on Rush. Anyone else? Sounds like another lib whine about "It's not fair. They have more money than I do. It's all their fault."

We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat. - Queen Victoria

Queen...I must of missed that

Queen...

I must of missed that when I was changing the water...dang it all.

Kudlow said that eh?

I am surprised.

Kudlow also doesn't have a pr

Kudlow also doesn't have a problem with illegals - since they're here already, etc., and what they do with the economy.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Well Fast that tells me all I

Well Fast that tells me all I need to know.

I haven't listened to Kudlow for years now...I used to catch him now and then on cnbc on some show early afternoon, before Kudlow and Kramer....so you answered my wonders about him.

....thanks.

Here's a conundrum:A $25,000

Here's a conundrum:

A $25,000 reward was offered for information leading to the arrest of the person responsible for the May murder of a couple and their 15-year-old son in Lancaster, PA (about 5 miles south of the Hero Squad estate.)

After a fruitless month-long investigation the 15-year-old killer was arrested last week and charged thanks to information provided by a citizen. The caveat: The person who provided the information was the killer's father.

So the question posed in our local newspaper (one that actually swings right, and where HS once interned) is, "Should the dad get the reward?"

Good question to debate, but in my opinion, the answer is yes.

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Yes - no question about it in

Yes - no question about it in my mind based on the story you relayed.

Now I would hope the father w

Now I would hope the father would do something honorable and give at least a fair portion back to the family (one daughter in the home fled for her life and was unhurt.) But few things in life have to be more difficult in turning in your child to the authorities, knowing that will likely be the last time someone you raised will be free, while wondering where you went wrong.

This kid had authorities stumped for a month. Only because the kid (who lived about a half mile away from the murder scene and had been interviewed by police) broke down and became suicidal did he reveal that he was the killer. That's kinda scary.

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Hero - what a terrible story.

Hero - what a terrible story. It must have been really hard for the Dad. Why did the boy do it?

"Why did the boy do it?&

"Why did the boy do it?"  If it wasn't self defense or justifiable homicide, the 'why' is immaterial.  Who cares?  And, let the punishment fit the crime.

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

Understood MikeB. But to answ

Understood MikeB. But to answer your question, I care. Thats why I asked. In reading the stories about the killings, no motive has been offered yet. Hero seems like he is a local, so I thout he might have some inside info.

BTW - I agree with your last sentence.

Police haven't yet released a

Police haven't yet released a motive as to why he did it. Thus far, they've said it was premeditated, and that he initially went to the house to suffocate the son. The two were friends, but apparently had a falling out (over a girl?). As to how it became a triple homicide involving a knife has not been released to the public.

Theories ran rampant during the month this was unsolved. Some Nancy Grace wannabes actually thought it was the daughter (who had returned from college the day before), while others thought it was some random gang hit. I thought it probably either a kid the son knew from school (which it was), or someone that had followed the daughter home.

Screams woke daughter

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Thanks Hero

Thanks Hero

Reward update

Just as a follow up, in case you're checking this... the father came out and said he will refuse to accept any reward money for turning in his son.

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

The money should be donated t

The money should be donated to a local charity or a public service such as a park.

Ephrata or Lititz?

Ephrata or Lititz?

Lititz.*****"I'm sorry,

Lititz.

*****

"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for a clown that gives a damn!" - Sticky the Clown

Here is a great link for anyb

Here is a great link for anybody to keep or check out when a vote takes place, and who voted which way, which they post that info after about a half hour of the vote, the vote total is almost always posted pretty quickly afterward the vote is done.

This is important between now and Thursday on the next Cloture vote on the illegal immigration bill if you want to contact anyone in your state or elsewhere.

The Dems will do anything to

The Dems will do anything to try and ruin this Administration. 

"Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) yesterday warned Dick Cheney that his office would risk losing its budget unless the vice president agrees to follow a presidential directive ordering the protection of classified information."

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/secrecy-may-cost-cheney-dems-warn-2007-06-26.html

I opened my morning mostly le

I opened my morning mostly leftist rag newpaper (The Frederick News Post- Frederick Maryland) this morning and read the following headline: "Roberts steers high court to right" (I could find it only in the print edition not online). I was livid. Isn't this an editorial opinion and not a news headline? I immediately dashed off a letter to the editor stating that maybe tomorrow's headline should read "Ginsburg steers high court to left" and that editorial comments and opinions shouldn't be disguised as news but labeled as such. One thing I noticed was that the story was picked up not from the AP but from the McClatchy Newspapers. The Frederick News post has just recently been using this news org as a source for news and articles from editorial commentators. I did notice that all the editorial commentary from McClatchy is very liberal left wing slanted in their point of view (more so than most). I even mentioned this in my editorial (which they called and said they were going to publish) I never heard of this organisation. Does anyone have info on them so I can refute the libs when they howl at me when my editorial is published. 

Anyone see a story on one of

Anyone see a story on one of the AM shows (don't remember which one - they're pretty much all the same) that asserted that murder was the #2 cause of death for pregnant women?  I'm sickened that it would even be statistically significant, but somewhat skeptical of the numbers.  I would like to see how data was gathered, what was inclusion/exclusion criteria, and who financed the study.  It sounds suspicious enough to be like another "Superbowl Sunday" hoax that asserted that DV goes up when the Big Game is on.  That's an easily disproved urban legend.

"A 2005 study by the Ame

"A 2005 study by the American Journal of Public Health reported that 31 percent of all pregnancy deaths between 1991 and 1999 were the result of homicide. Only pregnancy-related complications ranked higher as a cause of death."  ABC Jun 24th

BUT...that is "misleading".  In reading the study it says 27% of deaths during pregnancy/postpartum were from injury, 31% of "injury related deaths" were homicide.  By my math that is 8% of all deaths during pregnancy/postpartum.   

Article headline... Homicide: A Leading Cause of Injury Deaths Among Pregnant and Postpartum Women in the United States, 1991–1999

Thanks for the link.  I've p

Thanks for the link.  I've printed the whole article out and will check it out as I have time.  Back to work!

Re:june 26 immigration vote

Re:june 26 immigration vote:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

The bold, italics above point out the action that happened today. We have the right to insist on a new government. Impeach Bush now!

How would it be possible in a

How would it be possible in a country where the leaders derive "their just powers from the consent of the governed" to bring a bill to the floor of the Senate that 85% of the people loudly and vocally loathe?  Defeating this bill is the first step in taking-back the country that we've been watching slowly slip-away since the the ascendence of LBJ.

How would it be possible, you

How would it be possible, you ask?  Simple.  Apathy.  I'm hitting http://www.senate.gov in a short while, and I am registered to vote, and have taken part in every election offered in my precinct since I was 18.  Any takers???

And...you STILL have the primary process at which to send messages to politicians you don't like.  Ask former AK Gov. Frank Murkowski.

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

So, what of more f-ed up: a.

So, what of more f-ed up:

a. Fat Lezbo dressing up her adopted kid like a terrorist. Okay more like a "Team America" terrorist, but still...

b. the pu**y comments left by the sheep below the photo. Baaaaa. The picture is sooo offensive! I have the vapors!

Brownback voted for the Amnes

Brownback voted for the Amnesty Bill.

Bye-bye, presidency.

Rog...Thanks for the update.

Rog...

Thanks for the update.

Brownback now permanently scratched off my "thumbs-up" list.

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!

More and more signs are point

More and more signs are pointing to Fred Thompson for me.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

Dr. Love...Amen!Prove you can

Dr. Love...

Amen!

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!

Every single one of these soc

Every single one of these sociopaths who voted "yea" thereby putting our country squarely in the toilet should never, ever be elected to anything every again.

I can't believe I wasted my vote to put Martinez (FL) in the senate.

Liberal: a power worshipper without power. George Orwell

shrub--NB--I just --

shrub--NB--I just --paid $35 at grassfire to send a message to all who voted "yea" on the proposals. I was given a prewritten message. I was alllowed  to alter or replace it and I left it but added the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence. I also called them traitors to our country. I chided them for using the old phrase "land of opportunity" re: the illegal immigrants while blocking these same opportunities to American citizens by their vote today. The Declaration includes this:That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
 
I wrote that the Senate is currently doing exactly what the sentences above describe and we have the power to remove them. Just wanted to share--before hearing a knock on the door and be taken off to Bush's detention center.

Please, those who can afford to do so--go to grassfire and send a message. You can send to the 11 Senators and Bush for $15.00.

God bless America.

I just called Arlen Specter'

I just called Arlen Specter's office, the scumbag. Got an answering machine and left what will surely be a never-heard-and-immediately-deleted message for the dear chap.

I also left a message for my congressman. I think the Congress might be where we must make our stand.

I sent faxes via www.numbersu

I sent faxes via www.numbersusa.com.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

meangene

good for you. I am trying hard not to get too depressed about it. Here In GA we have turned our 2 Senators around and they both voted "nay". Isakson had already proposed a bill that became the triggers in the "compromise". I think he and Chambliss figures it was the best theycould do. I say, go down fighting. I sent an email to Isakson and said it was like Neville Chamberlain stepping off the plane with Hitler's "Peace Treaty".

RogHow did we ever let Arlen

Rog

How did we ever let Arlen stay?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Mr Bill,I just got a return e

Mr Bill,

I just got a return e-mail from DiFi, still waiting for Bar-Box to reply.  Their e-mail addresses are in my contacts.  I understand that in-state is much more weighty and most out of state correspondance is disregarded.

I sent an e-mail thru Congress.Org and had it returned saying they don't respond to group mailings.  So now i send my own.

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

botg---I have made so many 'phone calls, etc

botg---I have made so many 'phone calls, etc--they are grinding me down. I have used newsmax and grassfire before and then individual emails, but I know as soon as the see the out of stata entry, they chuck it.

So have I misterb.....I am wa

So have I misterb.....

I am waiting until each amendment is read, debated, and gets ready to go to vote now....then I begin again.

That is, if Cloture passes on Thurs.

I listened to a lot of the so-called Touch-Back provison they are now putting in on the Senate floor...it is long and tedious.

BT-- at the risk of being vulgar--

BT-- at the risk of being vulgar--"touchback issues" --Touch my butt-they are absolutely BS.  I am rapidly losing my civility again. I believe that Revelations interpretations are happening.. The country is burning up or in deep drought (like my area), people in the media (movies, tv) are acting like we live in Sodom and Gomorrah, and our central government is betraying it's citizens. Our soldiers i Iraq and other countries are being killed while their Senators are trying to give away their country is an evil almost to hard to believe , if I was not seeing it in progress. I could write a treatise about, not the possible, but the actual negative effects of lending legitimacy to this large number ol law-breakers. When the NAU/SPP and the padrone system are firmly embedded in this continent, the USA will cease to exist. My belief , all along is, this is why there is no USA in Revelations. GW Bush is destroying the greatest, most unique republic in known history. When all of the elected officals of this country are of the same ethnicity and the customs and habits of centuries of other countries are imposed on America- we will be running and hiding. It will be the beginning of the end of days. And our friendly businessman who is enjoying greater profits by exploiting the lower wages of an almost imprisoned slave population will smile all the way to the bank as American born and bred citizens have no jobs.

I have the same anger misterb

I have the same anger misterb....

I am not going to get any further down tonight if possible....took me long enough to get unmad from this morning, been cleaning like heck in between things here...

I will continue the fight, and I hope all people who care will too.

Time will tell misterb...soon enough.

I pray the American people from Sea to Shining Sea will rise up too....once again with our voices about this issue....

It isn't over yet.

BT-- I am a little down--

BT-- I am a little down--but I will continue also. I went to an immigration debate last night. 4 panelists. One police captain to address any issues re: immigration and local police enforcement. One lawyer--his name could have been Tumbler--started out quoting scripture , then how he was not in favor of illegal entry but how someone had to defend the rights of veryone even "undocumented workers". The 3rd member was actually a member of the Fairtax of America group. He passed on some of the questions, but he firmly stated  that we had laws in place  that our officials refused to enforceregarding illegale ntry and that he was quite upset about it. The 4th was a fellow named DA King. He is a columnist for the Marietta Journal and the founder of the "Dusty Inman Society". Dusty Inman was a teenaged boy who was killed by a drunk driver who was in the country illegally. DA King is a longtime family friend. He founded the society in hopes of having our existing laws enforced. Cut to the chase now- --DA King came out a big winner. The lawyer kept throwing out platitudes. The majority in the hall were for enforcing the laws that already exist. I keep saying this--there must be a smart lawyer in this country who can bring suit against lax officials who will not uphold and enforce our laws. Pray God it happens.

I'm hoping the people of this

I'm hoping the people of this great country finally come together on this one issue and physically toss out any politician that signs on to any illegals bill that includes any form of amnesty or rewarding those that break our laws.

Here's a kicker. Because of one part of the bill, any legal alien doing farm work in NC will get an immediate cut in pay if this bill passes. They (the ones doing it the legal and correct way) will have their pay cut by almost $2 dollars per hour. How come La Raza ain't raising hell about this?

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!

Hi misterb again....Had to ta

Hi misterb again....

Had to take care of family for a while...

I bet that meeting was something else from what you describe so well.

American people are outraged alright, the media is even helping to an extent on some shows with this attention for a change without politicians on some of these talking head shows.

I was surprised at Anderson Cooper's report tonight on this.

Lou Dobbs is going to be on C-Span soon about this subject at the National Press club I think I heard...I'm going to try and catch it.

Misterb..it  is people like you who are engaged nationwide that ARE making a difference...do not think you aren't....

My two-cents and lots and lots of gratitude is thrown to you from Montana.

For C*****'s F**king sakes...

NAU - When will people learn the history/culture of Canada and Mexico and figure out that THEY fear and hate that idea far more than Americans do?

SPP - I have never seen a more worthless institution HATED and FEARED as much as that one.  Could you imagine if that same energy was focused on even more dangerous things like...the Social Security Drain/Hoax/Scam/program???

Yes, I eagerly await all you populists and protectionists hurling vast quantities of invective at me for wanting to pay $20 for a t-shirt and buying cheap produce from around the world, while ALSO knowing that if we had the intestinal fortitude to do it, we can stop illegal immigration...

MAKE WAY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS!!!  THE 1999, 2003, 2005, AND 2007 NBA CHAMPIONS!!!!

Just my daily plug for the ne

Just my daily plug for the next president of the USA, Fred Thompson.

Run Fred, run...

I'm now completely convinced that Fred is our only hope of bringing sanity back to the WH. The Dems don't have anyone running that can be trusted to uphold our American way of life, and the field of GOP candidates are lacking in a lot of the qualities we need to regain our stature as the best damn country on earth.

Prove you can secure our borders first. The only legislation that counts!