Oh Behar....

Go take a flying       ....!

Do something useful for once in your lousy little leftist life.

Be GONE!

The media's play here is the same way that they play any moral issue, abortion especially.

Imagine that President Bush said, "I've never been convinced, if you let me inject my Christianity into it, that Jesus Christ would approve abortion."  Well of course, the left would jump right up, just as Behar did today, and condemn him for bringing his faith into the White House. They'd attack (as they do) for pandering to the "Religous Right."

But if someone held in esteem by the leftist media speaks their views on Abortion -- well, shhhh. Chances are that the view will be closely held as. "oops, shh - we just don't go there."

MSM mantra - Never, Never publically ask Jimmy Carter or the Dalai Lama how they feel about abortion.

This article originally appeared in Catholic World News :

Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has scolded leaders of his own Democratic Party for their support of unrestricted abortion.

"I have always thought it was not in the mainstream of the American public to be extremely liberal on many issues," Carter told reporters in Washington on November 3, as reported in the Washington Times. The former President continued: "I think our party's leaders - some of them - are overemphasizing the abortion issue."

In a breakfast meeting with reporters, the former President, an Evangelical Christian, said that he agreed with President George W. Bush on some issues, including this one. "I've never been convinced, if you let me inject my Christianity into it, that Jesus Christ would approve abortion," he said.

The Dalai Lama (beloved icon of the left), while he offers up comples views on special circumstances, has remained quiet clear, that abortion is an act of killing and that is is wrong. But, are they interested in his views on such an issue - or, is their interest only in his views on issues with which they agree?

One constant we can all understand here, and that is that the MSM, as with most major issues, is not willing to provide the information to the public in which the atmosphere exists for a sensible dialog or debate. Rather, they seek to divide.

Joy needs to get her facts straight.  To put it in perspective, let's kill Joy Behar and use her cells for research.  What's wrong with that idea?  Uh, hello.  Joy is a living, breathing, growing thing.  So are stem cells.  Like EH said, they aren't pencils.  Anything that is GROWING, breathing is life.  If we are going to kill life for future research, then let's start with Joy Behar and Rosie O'Donnell.  Why not?  C'mon, Joy, your dead body and cells could save countless lives!!!  Let's urge our politicians to kill off democrats so we can save future generations!!! 

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Take it easy!  We're not making a western here.
      ~ Uncle Junior  (The Sopranos)

"BEHAR: Not everybody agrees that it’s unethical to have an abortion. You do. You believe that."

And not everybody agrees that sex with infants or the enslavement of blacks is unethical either.

"Behar: No, it’s a religious position."

No, Joy Bonehead, it's not a religious position. Abortion has nothing to do with religion, although some on both sides wrongly try to make it about religion. I am not an overly religious person, but I don't need the Bible to tell me that killing innocents, whether babies, adults, or the unborn, is wrong.

Using her logic, it should be perfectly acceptable to take people off life support in order to use their organs to "donate" to others. What they can not admit is that an embryo is a human life. It is nothing else as any DNA test will tell you and can not turn into anything else. This argument had direct bearing on the abortion debate and the liberals are scared to death (is that a bad pun?).

This is the same bigoted attitude that let people think that slavery was OK. It's just "them", they're not really "human" because they don't look like us.

Thats a lot of petroleum products smeared all over her face.  Boy, they sure don't like religion on that show, unless its Islam of course.

I wonder - as anti-Christian as Joy appears to be - if she had a beloved family member who was in the final stage of a terminal disease, would she pray to GOD to come and end the suffering and take them to Heaven, or would she rely on medical science to develop a miracle drug that will restore them to health, and then blame the Bush administration if the drug is not developed in time...

I guess I'll go against the current here and say that I think that Behar makes a good point when she says not to bring up having to pay for things you don't like.  Is that really the direction we want to start moving in?  The party in power decides not to fund something because they object to it?  Talk about the proverbial road to Hell that's paved with good intentions.  I remember back before Reagan, the country was pretty well focused on national issues.  Then Reagan shifted the paradigm and said "Are you better off now than your were four years ago?", and ever since, with every passing year, our measure of approval with government becomes more and more about ourselves and less about national issues.  Do we really want that to worsen by dragging the view of "I shouldn't have to pay for what I don't like or support or believe in" into the mix?  I don't think so.

What I think the main point of argument against funding embryonic stem cell research should be is one that thwarts the main argument for it, that being that the embryos used are surplus or unwanted, have no use or value, and are just being destroyed... so why destroy them if we can use them to help others.  I wish folks like Hasselbeck would say "but why are these embryos worthless?  Because aside from the parents, they have no use or value.  But what happens the second you open up the Federal cash spigots and dump billions of dollars into embryonic stem cell research?  Overnight, those embryos turn into gold for fertility clinics and those evil pharmaceutical and medical research companies you hate.  How long do you think it will be before clinics stop asking for five embryos and start saying ten or 15 are needed?  How long will it be before medical companies are contracting with clinics for embryos with specific genetic traits to meet their research needs?  How long will it be before parents are told "hey... if you agree to donate an extra five embryos, we'll knock 50% off your treatment costs!"  The current state is that those embryos are only disposed of because they have no value.  Once they get turned into a means of revenue all that will change, and your argument that we should fund this research because these are just surplus embryos goes right out the window as clinics turn into embryo farms."

BEHAR: First of all, I believe in the separation of church and state.

Joy, let's carry your argument to its logical conclusion:  Laws against murder and stealing are unconstitutional because they happen to coincide with two of the Ten Commandments.

There's no reason to pour money down the rat hole of embryonic stem cell research, which has been stunningly unproductive, when more effective alternatives like adult stem cells exist.  And as a bonus, adult stem cells don't carry all that ethical baggage.

When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.