On Tuesday’s "Good Morning America," the ABC program used an attack by an aide to presidential candidate Sam Brownback on fellow contender Mitt Romney to delve into the former Massachusetts governor’s religious beliefs and whether bigotry will derail his campaign.
Comparing the treatment of Romney’s religion to past campaigns, Dan Harris asserted that this sort of thing "happened for orthodox Jews when Joe Lieberman ran for vice president in 2000."
But unlike in 2000, when Joe Lieberman ran for vice president on a liberal Democratic ticket, Mitt Romney is running a social conservative. And thus, Harris alternated from wondering if "a resurgence of the type of bigotry the church has faced since it was founded 177 years ago" might torpedo Romney’s bid, to speculating on the "uncomfortable questions" about Mormon beliefs:
Dan Harris: "There are other Mormon beliefs that may provoke uncomfortable questions for Mitt Romney. For example, Mormons believe God was once a human being. Mormons also believe in symbolically baptizing the dead, even if they're members of other religions. And, up until 1978, including a time during which Romney was prominent in the church, black people had second-class status. Mormons used to teach that blacks have dark skin due to a curse from God."
This is not the first time that GMA has reported on the Romney campaign with a skeptical, almost suspicious tone . In early April, co-host Robin Roberts repeatedly grilled the candidate about the source of his fund-raising and a Mormon connection to the money:
Robin Roberts: "So, where is the money coming from, Governor?"
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Roberts: "You say the money is coming from all the states. The ‘New York Times’ this morning is reporting that 15 percent of the money raised in your campaign is coming from the state of Utah. Many speculate that it has something to do, of course, with your being a Mormon. Does your, does your religion factor in at all in your campaign and in your fund-raising?"
While discussing the subject with Diane Sawyer in a second segment, "This Week" host George Stephanopoulos asserted that coverage of Romney’s religion is fair due to the fact that he would be the first Mormon president. He then referenced the fact that Harry Reid, the Senate Majority leader is a Mormon. However, would someone like Reid, who holds mostly liberal positions, face such scrutiny as a presidential candidate?
A transcript of the segments, which aired at 7:11am on June 19, follows:
ABC Graphic: "Keeping the Faith? Romney’s Religion Raises Questions"
Diane Sawyer: "And we turn now back here to the race to ‘08. Out on the campaign trail, religion and politics, a combustible mix for the front-runner, Mitt Romney. He is accepting apologies this morning from not one, but two of his Republican rivals. First, Rudy Giuliani and now Senator Sam Brownback, each one of them raising questions about some of the specifics of Romney’s Mormon beliefs. And our Dan Harris leads us off with this story. Dan?"
Dan Harris: "Diane, good morning. It happened for Catholics when John F. Kennedy ran for president in 1960. It happened for orthodox Jews when Joe Lieberman ran for vice president in 2000. And now Mormonism is having its moment and it's creating a mixture of both pride and anxiety for members of the Mormon church. On Monday, Mitt Romney accepted the apology of his Republican rival Sam Brownback, whose staffer sent out an e-mail questioning basic tenets of Mormonism."
Kansas Senator Sam Brownback: "This doesn't belong in a political discussion. There’s no religious test to be president. There shouldn’t be one."
Harris: "Fairly on unfairly, however, Mitt Romney’s Mormonism is coming in for increasing scrutiny. This has some Mormon’s nervous about a resurgence of the type of bigotry the church has faced since it was founded 177 years ago by Joseph Smith, later killed by an angry mob. Perhaps the biggest misconception about Mormons is that they’re polygamists, like in the HBO show ‘Big love.’ In fact, the church gave up polygamy in 1890. It’s now only practiced by a small group of so-called Mormon fundamentalists. Nonetheless, some Mormons were offended when Romney said this on ‘60 Minutes.’"
Mitt Romney: "I must admit, I can't imagine anything more awful than polygamy."
John Dehlin (Mormon Stories website): "There are many Mormons who, while they don’t practice polygamy, are very proud of their ancestry. So, to hear him so summarily dismiss or disparage the practice of polygamy is hurtful."
Harris: "There are other Mormon beliefs that may provoke uncomfortable questions for Mitt Romney. For example, Mormons believe God was once a human being. Mormons also believe in symbolically baptizing the dead, even if they're members of other religions. And, up until 1978, including a time during which Romney was prominent in the church, black people had second-class status. Mormons used to teach that blacks have dark skin due to a curse from God."
Dehlin: "These past statements haunt our people and they'll haunt Mitt Romney."
Harris: "But John Dehlin, a Mormon businessman and journalist who is sometimes critical of the church points out that Christian politicians aren't often asked, for example, about the Old Testament condoning slavery."
Dehlin: "Every religion has skeletons in its historical closet. The only difference is that Mormonism is less familiar."
Harris: "There are those who argue it is unfair for Mitt Romney to be forced, essentially, to become a spokesman for his faith. Others argue that since Romney is running for the highest office in the land and openly advertising himself as a man of faith, well, then scrutiny comes with the territory. Diane, back to you."
Sawyer: "All right, Dan. Thanks. Let's turn now to Washington and George Stephanopoulos, our chief Washington correspondent, host of ‘This Week.’ George, what about this fairness question and what about the fact that he was the governor of a major state and yet now, as he goes nationwide, one third of the people, Republicans, polled say they may be less likely to vote for a Mormon? What is different nationally?"
George Stephanopoulos: "Well, because he would be the first Mormon president. There have been other Mormon governors and senators. In fact, the Democratic leader of the Senate Harry Reid is a Mormon. But Mitt Romney would be breaking a barrier. And his campaign knows that he's going to get more questions on this, the better he does in the campaign. But they have a strategy to deal with it. Number one, he is aggressively reaching out to Christian and evangelical leaders saying I'm a Christian and from my faith, I get values we all share, particularly a belief in family. Secondly, that he does abhor some parts of the Mormon past, polygamy, racial separation. And then finally, and probably most importantly, that he believes in this bedrock separation of church and state, that church leads are not going to be the power behind the thrown at the White House."
Sawyer: "But as he moves, in a sense, to distance himself from some previous practices of the church publicly, he does get criticism from inside the church. So he's sort of getting it from both sides here. And I note that there is the article of faith, recognized as scripture by the Mormon church, which says Zion will be built upon the American continent. And I remember your asking him about the question of the second coming being in America. I want to play this and let you tell us what happened here."
Romney: "That doesn't happen to be a doctrine of my church. Our belief is just what it says in the Bible that the Messiah will come to Jerusalem, stand on the Mount of Olives and the Mount of Olives will be a place where there is a great gathering and so forth. It is the same as the other Christian tradition."
Sawyer: "So does he get criticized inside the church for those statements?"
Stephanopoulos: "He did. Because one of the doctrines of the church is actually that God will return to both Jerusalem and the new Jerusalem, which they teach is actually in Missouri. And he did get criticism for walking away from the tenets of the faith there. But his much bigger problem is with other Christians, other evangelicals. What voters, bottom line, I think, Diane, are looking for is they want a candidate who believes in God. Being an atheist is an absolute political killer. But they also want to be assured that whoever gets that office is not going to try to impose their beliefs on the rest of the country."
Sawyer: "All right. Religion emerging this early in the campaign. Thanks so much, George."
—Scott Whitlock is a news analyst for the Media Research Center.



















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Dang... there goes the media
June 19, 2007 - 12:47 ET by vrwc13Dang... there goes the media mixing religion and politics again....
"Others argue that since Romney is running for the highest office in the land and openly advertising himself as a man of faith, well, then scrutiny comes with the territory." Dan Harris
Hilary's Faith helped her stay married to an adulterer
October 15, 2007 - 12:23 ET by Daniel BakerShe doesn't get asked about this faith which she brings up in the campaign so much. What aspect of your faith helped you stay with an alleged rapist Hillary?
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"There are those who a
June 19, 2007 - 12:56 ET by sanskritg"There are those who argue it is unfair for Mitt Romney to be forced,
essentially, to become a spokesman for his faith. Others argue that
since Romney is running for the highest office in the land and openly
advertising himself as a man of faith, well, then scrutiny comes with
the territory."
That kind of sums it up.
It still gets to me that repo
June 19, 2007 - 13:23 ET by KC MulvilleIt still gets to me that reporters still use the self-referential tactic of "questions are being asked..." Yes, you're asking them. You can't justify your own questions by claiming that questions are being asked. That's the classic definition of begging the question.
Great minds, KC. See my co
June 19, 2007 - 13:45 ET by motherbeltGreat minds, KC. See my comment below LOL. They will see to it.
Ha! Blog synchronicity ...
June 19, 2007 - 16:23 ET by KC MulvilleHa! Blog synchronicity ...
"some have said" yo
June 19, 2007 - 16:37 ET by botg"some have said" you and mother have a conspiracy going
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
If you don't tell anyone ...
June 19, 2007 - 17:00 ET by KC MulvilleIf you don't tell anyone ... we'll let you in on it.
"A highly placed source&
June 19, 2007 - 17:08 ET by botg"A highly placed source" tells me we are all part of the vast right-wing conspiracy
Thanks, botg }}}}------------->
June 19, 2007 - 17:16 ET by Cool ArrowAnd the conspiracy continues to march
is ther HTML code to make pos
June 19, 2007 - 17:21 ET by botgis ther HTML code to make postings green (arrow)
Supreme Court, National Security, Borders, Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.
Will "umcomfortable qu
June 19, 2007 - 13:44 ET by motherbeltWill "umcomfortable questions" arise? Of course they will. It's like when the media says "the questions won't go away" (subtext: we will make sure of that.)
Let's try this one on: "So where is the money coming from, Senator Clinton?"
From the left I could take th
June 19, 2007 - 14:01 ET by buddycFrom the left I could take the attacks on Romney concerning his religion. I knew that they would not treat Romney as they wanted John Kennedy, Joe Liberman and Harry Reid to be treated. But I am soooooooooooooo discouraged by his treatment by conservatives concerning his religion.
I am a mormon who would vote for Rudi but who also thinks that Romney would make a great candidate. Religion has never factored into my views of candidates. While mormons have some peculiar beliefs, most all religions have similar peculiar practices and/or beliefs.
I am so discouraged by it that I don't think that I will ever again consider myself a conservative or believe I am part of that group of people.
buddyc, though there are so
June 19, 2007 - 14:37 ET by Conservative Voicebuddyc, though there are some who call themselves conservative and have religious bigotry, doesn't mean you should denounce yourself a conservative. Much like it would be foolish to quit the Mormon faith becaues Harry Reid is Mormon.
There are more conservatives who think as you do, that a candidate's religion shouldn't be a deciding factor.
.........so..........what sho
June 19, 2007 - 15:07 ET by vrwc13............so...........what should be deciding factors and what shouldn't.....................and why?
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
Well vr, for the 100th time
June 19, 2007 - 15:21 ET by Conservative VoiceWell vr, for the 100th time, his fruit. Judge a man by his fruit not his thought process, his beliefs, or color, etc. If you like the fruit, then support him...if you do not then don't. His religion isn't fruit...its the tree.
Why? So you aren't a bigot and thereby a moron. As far as should and shouldn't vr...hmmm if you don't see bigotry as a sin and a problem, well then I can't really help you can I.
His fruit....hmm....this only
June 19, 2007 - 15:37 ET by vrwc13His fruit....hmm....
hmm...just his fruits....
btw - not much tolerance in your acid response, not much of an answer to the question either.
"Others argue that since Romney is running for the highest office in the land and openly advertising himself as a man of faith, well, then scrutiny comes with the territory." Dan Harris
well Pharisee, I have zer
June 19, 2007 - 16:48 ET by Conservative Voicewell Pharisee, I have zero tolerance for bigotry...you certainly have the right to be one.
His fruit...
1. Address what he has done, helps determine his character, integrity, and honesty, and thereby gives you a clue on how he will act in the future.
2. On things like character, integrity and honesty...wow all sound like FRUITS. Because I seriously doubt everyone in your church is completely honest, full of integrity, and be an upstanding citizen because they sit next to thou.
If the religion was preaching that we should all rape and plunder and lie and such, then you might have a point. But since we condemn every immoral practice your Church condemns and then some, it would seem to me if you find fault with me and people of my faith because we go to Church, says a lot more about you.
oh and btw...the acid in this post and the last are only felt by the guilty.
Pharisee, bigot, moron... ble
June 19, 2007 - 17:08 ET by vrwc13Pharisee, bigot, moron... blessed I tell you, I feel blessed!
Btw - it's not the common practices between our faiths I question, its the vast differences.
"Others argue that since Romney is running for the highest office in the land and openly advertising himself as a man of faith, well, then scrutiny comes with the territory." Dan Harris
Where did all this fruit come
June 19, 2007 - 17:20 ET by TruthMongerWhere did all this fruit come from...?
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
TruthMonger
June 19, 2007 - 17:23 ET by Cool ArrowI think he just said something about your vas diferens
Don't know what that is - but
June 19, 2007 - 17:27 ET by TruthMongerDon't know what that is - but it sounds expensive! I'm happy to have one...
So what do you make of all this fruit here...is it tasty delicous or...not?
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
Persimmons and horseapples
June 19, 2007 - 17:36 ET by Cool ArrowHow far from the tree does this fruit fall?
...well looking down this sl
June 19, 2007 - 17:44 ET by TruthMonger...well looking down this slippery slope here I see alot of it still rolling...
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
: ).......
June 19, 2007 - 17:47 ET by vrwc13: ).......
The tree, man, its the tree!
June 19, 2007 - 17:24 ET by vrwc13The tree, man, its the tree! Eve took a bite from it, care to yourself?
Well I'm certainly desperate
June 19, 2007 - 17:29 ET by TruthMongerWell I'm certainly desperate for a little bit of knowledge (adjusts fig leaf)...pass it over...
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
Do you even understand the ve
June 19, 2007 - 17:36 ET by Conservative VoiceDo you even understand the verse Christ spoke, you shall know them by their fruits? (Luke 6:44) Let me spell it out then. It is what the tree produces. A good fruit can't come from a sick tree, and sick fruit can't come from a healthy tree. Hence we can judge by what is produced.
Sick trees?
June 19, 2007 - 17:45 ET by Cool ArrowI thought it had something to do with whether you were grafted to the vine represented by Jesus Christ. But if it's trees, it's trees.
Well you can hang your hat on
June 19, 2007 - 17:46 ET by vrwc13Well you can hang your hat on that tree, I choose this one.
dang TM just couldn't keep it out of it today...sorry : (.....
Yes Pharisee, I get it...yo
June 19, 2007 - 17:56 ET by Conservative VoiceYes Pharisee, I get it...you are the authority of how to interpret the scripture and if anyone differs from your Biblical view they aren't worthy to be hired by you, are to be held with disdain, and considered to be completely unworthy of Christ's salvation...thank you you helping me with my so called mote in my eye.
You know I will take a Leon over you any day, heck...I would take tumbler over you.
CV
June 19, 2007 - 18:00 ET by TruthMongerAnd if vr can't learn to offend nicely asap then I will too:)!
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
TM...I tried to be nice, but
June 19, 2007 - 18:05 ET by vrwc13TM...I tried to be nice, but he called me names...not very tolerant eh?
Wow, equal to Deb, and now lower than Tumb and Leon. Can't get much worse...Can I quit?
Give me a break vr...stop p
June 19, 2007 - 18:22 ET by Conservative VoiceGive me a break vr...stop playing the victim, I exposed your bigotry and hate and Phariseeism...it wasn't too hard. It isn't my problem as to why you do not have the mental ability to process as to why the names fit you...if I was just blowing smoke, then the names wouldn't stick, because you would be able to counter on how I am wrong...instead you continue to show to all around just how accurate those names are.
BTW not all names are bad...I wear the name Conservative with pride.
<sound of vrwc13 leaving..
June 19, 2007 - 18:30 ET by vrwc13<sound of vrwc13 leaving...shaking the dust off his sandals>
vr warrior
June 19, 2007 - 18:32 ET by TruthMongerI'm feelin very bad about CV here - he's a bud, vr - why don'tcha give him a pat on the back once in a while - actually most of the time from now on - you both know where you stand now I think...
There's no question about his heart for the big JC on my end...
thank you TM, and there is
June 19, 2007 - 18:44 ET by Conservative Voicethank you TM, and there is no question in my mind how you feel about the big JC either :)
Thanks CV - and thanks for yo
June 19, 2007 - 18:47 ET by TruthMongerThanks CV - and thanks for you efforts with vr...you both went to alot of trouble here...
And what fruit of mine do you
June 19, 2007 - 17:31 ET by Conservative VoiceAnd what fruit of mine do you not like TM? Or are you confused by the term fruit?
CV - I'm not judging your fru
June 19, 2007 - 17:42 ET by TruthMongerCV - I'm not judging your fruit...you two are working hard - I'm feeling the love - and I appreciate it. I'm behind you all the way...
...it was hard but I managed to keep religion out of it:)...
Pharisee: A person who is
June 19, 2007 - 17:28 ET by Conservative VoicePharisee: A person who is holier than thou...who spends his time condeming all the sinners, but discounts their own.
Bigot: Someone who is prejudice and intolerant, especially in regards to race and religion. If you refuse to judge by their fruits, then you are prejudice...if you add to that, that you are unwilling to work for, work with, or hire you are intolerant and thereby a bigot.
Moron: someone who is stupid, where I and others have hammered this over and over, and you are still stuck at zero.
They all fit. I have measured you by your actions, not your religion, and have found you to be a Pharisee, a bigot and a moron, sorry. But if you think your actions are sanctified, then wear the badge with honor and pride.
I wear this badge with honor
June 19, 2007 - 17:33 ET by vrwc13I wear this badge with honor and pride, thank you.
Yes, wear your bigotry with
June 19, 2007 - 17:44 ET by Conservative VoiceYes, wear your bigotry with honor and pride Pharisee.
Sawyer: "All right. Reli
June 19, 2007 - 15:42 ET by bigtimerSawyer: "All right. Religion emerging this early in the campaign. Thanks so much, George."
They never stop as long as it is someone with an 'R' after their name and they are doing well in the polls...scares the bejesus out of the little leftist critters.
Attack is all they know.
Too bad they do not apply all that energy for presenting non-biased coverage of the war on terrorism, we would of already achieved Victory by now....
....but hey...that is not in their leftist agenda...we can't have that....
Silly me.