For a little fun on a Tuesday morning, the folks over at National Lampoon need your help.
They are considering making a feature length film that is basically a modern version of their successful hit from the ’70s “Animal House” with a terrorist tilt.
However, they want the public's opinion as to whether or not they should make this film, and have created an online poll to assist them with their decision.
Lampoon’s website describes the premise of the comedy (video link available after the break due to the somewhat crude and vulgar content, h/t Charles at LGF):
Two idiot college students unwittingly join an Al Qaeda cell in order to get the 72 virgins promised to terrorists when they die. From the makers of Animal House, Van Wilder, and the Vacation movies.
Those interested can view the preview available here, and vote here.
Vote early, vote often!
Post facto question: Regardless of the voting, would the folks at Lampoon dare making this film given the volatile subject matter? Just imagine the outcry from Islamic groups like CAIR. Would they risk such negative publicity? After all, this is not a population that has presented itself as being tolerant of jokes directed at it, or have you forgotten the violence in Europe subsequent to the publishing of a few comic strips?
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Too easy Noel
June 19, 2007 - 09:23 ET by Cool ArrowLampoon will not make this movie no matter how much support they get.
How many New York audiences will feel comfortable sitting in a crowded theatre watching an Islam Lampoon movie.
Haven't seen the Satanic Verses on the big screen. You'd have to be in a RUSH to DIE.
They want the public's opinion?
June 19, 2007 - 09:33 ET by RJOf course they won't make it Cool Arrow.
But just asking for the public's opinion is another example of the underlying fear of Islam and possible reprisals from the "religion of peace."
Lampoon
June 19, 2007 - 09:36 ET by Cool ArrowIt's just such a cheap publicity stunt. How they have fallen since the glory days of Mona Gorilla
Mahmoud Iminajihad.... Rush c
June 19, 2007 - 09:33 ET by ViperMahmoud Iminajihad.... Rush chairman.... Damn glad to meet you!
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I hope very much that they
June 19, 2007 - 09:33 ET by rx4musicI hope very much that they make this movie. The premise is pretty funny and only Lampoon could do it right. However, I wouldn't want to be listed as a writer in the credits! I would definitely do it under an assumed name. If they make this, there will be more outcry about it than there was for Mel's "Passion"... When given the choice between politically correct or humour, I'll take humour every time (but then again, I was raised on Monty Python and Frank Zappa...).
MAKE THE MOVIE!!!
"I used to be disgusted, but now, I try to be amused..."- E. Costello
Oh Dude, do it!
June 19, 2007 - 09:59 ET by Ole_SargeI'm NOT a fan of the NL franchise, nor of most of their work, but HUMOR and laughing at your enemies is a great tactic. And maybe show the Leftists that Conservatives and "Fly-Over Country" Main Street America ARE NOT the enemy they ought to be fighting.
Interesting concept
June 19, 2007 - 10:53 ET by acumenInteresting concept.
I'm not as concerned about the portrayal of al qaeda as how the college establishment would be portrayed. Would they still be shown as the preppy, conservative, uptight establishment as in the original Animal House? Or, would they be shown as the factual Duke 88, Ward Churchill, looney leftist establishment that the "leadership" of academia have become? Not only would the latter be more factual but much, much more entertaining.
Lampoon the Koran?
June 19, 2007 - 10:58 ET by Cool ArrowDoes the Koran clearly state these virgins are female?
Actually I think it is 72 vir
June 19, 2007 - 11:32 ET by well99Actually I think it is 72 virgin bulls on viagra.
Here lately, Lampoon seems to
June 19, 2007 - 12:04 ET by Challenger GrimHere lately, Lampoon seems to have fallen a long way from the glory days of Animal House and Vacation.
Not only does this film look actually FUNNY (compared to recent flicks) but I'd see it in honor of Theo Van Gogh.
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I think it would be very unwi
June 19, 2007 - 12:11 ET by Phan of TruthI think it would be very unwise to make this movie. I am totally against censorship and all topics should be in bounds, but we've seen what happens when you insult Islam. Death threats or actual deaths. Not worth the risk when 26% of AMERICAN Muslims think that suicide bombing is justifiable.
"Death threats or actual
June 19, 2007 - 12:20 ET by ErgoDyne"Death threats or actual deaths" to whom? The liberal actors? The liberal studio/directors? Not to come across as uncaring, but maybe it would be a nice wakeup call to these clowns that Islam is not a peaceful religion.
Nah, the studio would probably defend the muslims and say that Bush antagonized them into attacking.
Either that or global warming.
I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
With all due respect to you
June 19, 2007 - 12:22 ET by doubledown552With all due respect to your opinion, I COMPLETELY disagree. We should ridicule them loud and continuously. And if they attack as a result of this movie, it just shows how unpeaceful they really are, especially considering the magnitude a movie has at changing peoples' opinions (which is almost none). They don't care about peace. They are bread to be violent and will never change. I feel censorship out of fear is the worst kind. This is Saddam style censorship: "anything I don't like, you can't make, or I'll kill you". It's total BS.
Morals....? Who needs those?
Not to mention, I practice my
June 19, 2007 - 12:30 ET by Challenger GrimNot to mention, I practice my 2nd amendment rights. Let them rise up and be as violent as they want, a lot of us are ready to fight back.
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I totally see what you guys a
June 19, 2007 - 12:37 ET by Phan of TruthI totally see what you guys are saying and I would absolutely agree if we were dealing with even somewhat reasonable people. But we're not--we're dealing with barbarians and that's the problem. If even one life is lost, is it worth a few laughs?
If just one life is lost in a
June 19, 2007 - 12:49 ET by florida_chadIf just one life is lost in an auto crash is it worth the convenience?
I think that's different. I
June 19, 2007 - 13:10 ET by Phan of TruthI think that's different. I'm saying that to antagonize these people would be unwise. I don't want to fight these people here. Keep the fight over there. We are doing the right thing by combatting them and their way, but I think that should be enough. We know it's no "religion of peace." Why rub it in their faces that we may think that they are ridiculous? If someone makes fun of me, I might get mad or I might laugh it off. If someone makes fun of them, they kill. The filmmakers are going to make the movie or they won't. I just hope that no innocent U.S. citizen gets blown up on a bus with a big ad on it for the movie.
If even one life is lost, is
June 19, 2007 - 14:02 ET by Challenger GrimIf even one life is lost, is it worth a few laughs?
Isn't that an exact quote from Cartman in the episode "Cartoon Wars"?
They made the point there, sometimes things are more important, like freedom. Else then we allow our entire culture to be enslaved by whomever is willing to cause the most trouble. That also leads to the whole "it's the victim's fault" line of thinking in relation to crime. (ie: "oh well she shouldn't have looked so inviting if she didn't want to get raped") Which is completely BULL CRAP.
You're not willing to fight them? Well some of us are. If they want to protest: fine. They want to get violent, they're not the only ones who can be. I may censor myself in the name of common curtosey or just being a gentleman, but if someone's threatening me to be censored... Over my dead body.
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I agree with CG. Plus that
June 19, 2007 - 14:20 ET by doubledown552I agree with CG. Plus that episode of South Park was pure genius.
Freedom is worth as many lives as it takes.
Morals....? Who needs those?
Thanks a lot for effectively
June 19, 2007 - 21:30 ET by Phan of TruthThanks a lot for effectively calling me a plagiarist. And a coward.
Oh get your panties out of a
June 20, 2007 - 08:11 ET by Challenger GrimOh get your panties out of a wad.
Another one calling me a coward. Why would you want to fight terrorists IN this country?
Besides the fact I'd get to savor their blood upon my hands?
Seriously, it's not that I want to fight the terrorists (way to twist words). But if I have a choice between fighting them or giving up my freedoms, then bring them on. I'm not giving up my freedom of speech, religion or anything else. Why are you so obsessed with "blaming the victim" in this case?
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"I'm saying that to an
June 19, 2007 - 15:22 ET by ckc1227"I'm saying that to antagonize these people would be unwise. I don't want to fight these people here."
I have an FYI for you: that day is coming, whether this movie gets made or not.
"Why rub it in their faces that we may think that they are ridiculous?"
Because they SHOULD have their faces rubbed in it. The only reason they have any power at all is because people like yourself give it to them. If you make your decisions based on what terrorists might do, then they have won.
Another one calling me a cowa
June 19, 2007 - 21:33 ET by Phan of TruthAnother one calling me a coward. Why would you want to fight terrorists IN this country?
The voice of fear. If America
June 19, 2007 - 14:21 ET by bassndudeThe voice of fear. If American Muslims think suicide bombing is justifiable, its time to round em up and put them all in the same place. America was not built on cowering to a threat, it was built facing and eliminating the threat. We just dont have many left with the courage to do so. They are becoming a people of cowards, afraid of the dark.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I have several fears. None
June 19, 2007 - 15:05 ET by doubledown552I have several fears. None of which you mention. But they do include the following: Those of us willing and able to fight back against any kind of foreign tyranny will not be disabled/stopped by those attacking us. No, we will be stopped by our own government. We are in a war right now, HERE IN AMERICA! People don't see it because its around them. The "It's hard to tell a friend is getting fat because you see them every day" mentallity. The things that fear me aren't foreign terrorists or even foreign powers, it's the people from within trying to tear us down. Until they are stopped, we will never be safe.
Morals....? Who needs those?
Agreeded double, but the ones
June 19, 2007 - 16:48 ET by bassndudeAgreeded double, but the ones you speak of that cant see this, are the very ones that fear what someone else will do if someone sayes something they dont like. This is the PC crowd. The harry reids, pelosis and clintons of this country are destroying it from within. And they fear what someone thinks. This is simply cowering before an emeny we could wipe off the face of the earth. But they are the real enemy. It is because of people like them we are were we are today.
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To All that are only seeing o
June 19, 2007 - 21:55 ET by Phan of TruthTo All that are only seeing one side:
The PC crowd. I hope you aren't grouping me with Reid, Pelosi and Clinton because that would be totally incorrect. Do you or any you think making fun of other religions is funny? Do you like to be made fun of? There are a lot of people that seem to think that THE GOLDEN RULE should not be applied here. We are already fighting these people on their turf in a war. I'm not for footbaths or any sharia law. To make fun of anyone unpredictable is foolish. Would you go to a bar and make fun of a Hell's Angel because he is wearing leather and gays wear leather? You'd probably get stomped. Common sense, right; or wrong, as has been implied over and over.
I don't care whether you agree with me or not but don't call me a coward because I don't want to fight barbarians here. It's smart, not cowardly.
FanI think the reaction you'v
June 19, 2007 - 22:04 ET by botgFan
I think the reaction you've gotten is people saying that acquiesing to a bully(s) only encourages more bullying. Look this is a society of free speech and to set up one group as untouchable will only lead to further hostility
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You are totally right on ever
June 19, 2007 - 22:14 ET by Phan of TruthYou are totally right on everything you have said. Don't you agree, though, that to pick on that bully, to poke at him, would be foolish. Yeah, you should stand up to him, just like we are doing over there. But throw pencils at him in class, standing in the corner, when the teacher isn't in the room? You're just asking for it then, and more often than not, he'll happily oblige.
FanThere have been movies and
June 19, 2007 - 22:26 ET by botgFan
There have been movies and scenes and sit-coms galore making fun of Christians, Hindus, Buddists, Jews, Rastafarians etc. To purposely avoid because 'they' may react is teaching the islamofascists that intimidation works it is also in a way predujice against the Muslims who wish to live in peace
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True that they know that inti
June 19, 2007 - 22:58 ET by Phan of TruthTrue that they know that intimidation works, but the bottom line is that I don't think it's cool at all to make fun of people's beliefs, even if they seem weird or insane to me. Nobody likes to be made fun of. Why do it? Especially when they clearly can't take it?
FanI don't do it, but if Mont
June 19, 2007 - 23:05 ET by botgFan
I don't do it, but if Monty Python makes 'The Life of Brian' or 'The Holy Grail' I can enjoy the humor. If National Lampoon makes a movie '72 Virgins' I shouldn't enjoy the humor? {sounds like unequal treatment (predujice) to me}
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Here's my thing botgIf I subj
June 20, 2007 - 02:29 ET by Phan of TruthHere's my thing botg
If I subject myself to laughing at one's beliefs, than I am just as subject to the ridicule of my own. I'm not trying to be a jerk about anything; I feel that you've got to walk the walk. There are a lot of things that I laugh at that that make me feel ashamed to laugh at later. I guess it's part of human nature. But I try to avoid that, whenever I can, because I want to rise above that, to be more than my basic responses. When I watch scatological humor, it makes me laugh. Against my desire to be above it, it does. I think that we, the Conservatives, are the last bastion of reality in this country, and with all of the negative influences around us, we should be the ones to walk the walk. There are many Pardoners out there, yet where is the Parson?
I don't mind being made fun o
June 20, 2007 - 08:18 ET by Challenger GrimI don't mind being made fun of if I believed something that genuiely was foolish. If laughter is one of the weapons we can use to undermine and weaken the crazies out there, then I'm all for it.
Unless of course you think we shouldn't stop slavery and/or honor killings because that's just "their belief". Oh and they'll "get upset" at it.
As for your examples of bullys etc. Your entire premise is built upon the bully leaving you alone. Well if he doesn't (and these people clearly have no intention of doing so) then it's time to fight them with every means available. Humilate him/them in public. Annoy and torture them with with every means available. FIGHT BACK.
Like I said once already (that you are apparently not getting). There is a difference between being gentlemanly and being held hostage. I refuse to be held hostage.
(and I'm sorry, Scientology DESERVES to be made fun of)
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If they attack here will yo
June 19, 2007 - 22:19 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveIf they attack here will you fight them then?
None of us want to fight the barbarians. Many of us are prepared to do so if the need arises.
Most other religions take ridicule with a grain of salt. They see it and pass it off as ignorance or childishness even when it is grossly offensive (i.e. Piss Christ). Islamofascists will kill you (and your family and any innocent bystanders) if they even think you did something they don't like.
The special treatment given to Islam because of the intimidation and threat of death is ridiculous. Giving them that luxury "validates" their position and reinforces their idea that it is acceptable for them to kill people when things don't go their way.
If the world doesn't stand up to the Muslim bullying and intimidation, it will gradually get worse. They should be treated just as everyone else. When you give in, you admit defeat.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson
Of course I would fight them
June 19, 2007 - 22:35 ET by Phan of TruthOf course I would fight them if need arises and I am prepared. However, why would I want to hasten the situation? Think football. If I'm on my own 47 and I throw a sideline out, if I complete the pass, I gain 5 yards, but if the corner jumps the route and picks it, he's going for 6. I'm risking an easy touchdown for the defense (terrorist attack) for 5 yards (an insult to their religion). And these corners are licking their chops, jumping every sideline route attempted.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You start
June 19, 2007 - 23:05 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveWhoa, whoa, whoa. You started talking sports--you lost me.
I know, kinda funny/sad, whatever.
I have never gotten into football (or any other sport outside of drag racing...which I don't even follow anymore).
I'm not saying it is a good idea to make fun of any religion. I am saying that Islam should not be held in any higher reverence than any other religion...especially by non-believers. Muslim "law" should govern Muslims that have "signed up" not non-believers that don't know/care about Islam. By placating them on this, we give them an inch to eventually take a mile. People like bin Laden have stated that Islam is the proper government for the entire world...their goal is to achieve that government on little step at a time.
Sorry you lost me on your football analogy...I'm sure it was very good for the football lovers out there.
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However, why would I want to
June 20, 2007 - 08:21 ET by Challenger GrimHowever, why would I want to hasten the situation?
You have to face them SOMETIME. So when do you want to? To use your football analogy, at some point you have to leave the huddle and face the other team. When do you do so? Well our play clock is running out too...
Stop huddling and get on the line! The ball's about to be snapped.
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Again. Aren't we facing and
June 19, 2007 - 21:37 ET by Phan of TruthAgain. Aren't we facing and eliminating the threat in the Middle-East or at least trying so that it doesn't happen here?
I think we should ease into t
June 19, 2007 - 21:42 ET by balboaI think we should ease into the ridiculing. Perhaps National Lampoon isn't the best venue. Start slow, snowball, and the next thing you know, there's a Sunday comic strip called "That Kooky Mohammed."
What would help is if more Muslim comedians made noise. GOOD comics.
Yo--I post here in the aftern
June 19, 2007 - 22:02 ET by Phan of TruthYo--I post here in the afternoon and get treated like a coward while I'm at work? Because I think that it's stupid to antagonize people, especially these Muslims?
You are right. But I don't think that that's all that likely. There doesn't seem to be that much humor about their religion coming from Muslims.
You need to remember, they
June 19, 2007 - 22:27 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveYou need to remember, they antogonize themselves.
Sometimes my daughter can get all teary and offended at every single thing her younger sister says to her...even if it is "hi". I tell her to knock off the crap and grow a thick skin.
It's pretty easy to take offense at everything, and the Islamofascists have that down to an art-form. We shouldn't have to do anything extraordinary to avoid offending them than we do for anyone else or any other group.
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I don't think we should try t
June 19, 2007 - 22:48 ET by Phan of TruthI don't think we should try to offend anyone, regardless of demographic. Let's not bend over backwards for people, like allowing sharia law, but let's at least do the right thing and not try to hurt people. Slamming a religion hurts people; these people take it differently than us in a very wrong way, but as the initiator, we become part of the problem. Don't do it and we're not.
Did I say we should try to
June 19, 2007 - 23:13 ET by Mean Gene Dr. LoveDid I say we should try to offend people?
BTW, our mere existence offends the Islamofascists what do you suggest we do about that?
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I don't think you did at all
June 20, 2007 - 02:50 ET by Phan of TruthI don't think you did at all Mean Gene Dr. Love
If our mere existence offends Islamofascists (which I think you are totally right about), we should continue to be better than them. We are. We all know that, and I think that they all know that. To me, that is a big part of why they hate us. What do we do about it? Well, if there was an easy answer, I think it would already be implemented. Let's just say that ease in this situation is almost impossible and conflict is almost unavoidable. But, we do not need to provoke anything in this country; they are doing more than enough themselves in the lesser world, with a lot of help from the anti-American globalists out there, undermining us from the outside and, disgracefully, the inside.
Seriously, do you know what "
June 20, 2007 - 08:25 ET by Challenger GrimSeriously, do you know what "blame the victim" thinking is?
http://en.wikipedia....
I think that's what pisses me off more than anything. You're entire argument is identical to:
"In the context of rape, this concept refers to popular attitudes that certain victim behaviours (such as flirting, or wearing sexually provocative clothing) may encourage rape. In extreme cases, victims are said to have "asked for it", simply by not behaving demurely."
Here's a hint: THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS. They are not "victims" we are not "part of the problem" any more than a rape victim "asked for it."
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Have to leave for a few hours
June 19, 2007 - 23:05 ET by Phan of TruthHave to leave for a few hours--sorry to anyone I'm talking to now.
I dunno ... I got a chuckle o
June 20, 2007 - 20:07 ET by drillanwrI dunno ... I got a chuckle out of it. And I must admit, it's a nice change from Catholic / Christian bashing in movies. Yeah, sure, make the flick ... But you might need bomb sniffing pigs at the box office doors.
Why just today drill, i saw a
June 20, 2007 - 20:14 ET by botgWhy just today drill, i saw a commercial for a new movie which is a spoof of Noah's Ark. It's like if there's no movie ridiculing your beliefs then you aren't one of the cool ones. In a way to NOT make the virgins movie is hate speech against mainstream Muslims. (You know you assume they all just riot and bomb and can't take a joke)
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OMA!!! (Oh My Allah) You ar
June 20, 2007 - 20:20 ET by drillanwrOMA!!! (Oh My Allah) You are sooo right! That would really be terrible stereotyping!!
My! My! That was powerful ins
June 20, 2007 - 20:17 ET by drillanwrMy! My! That was powerful insensitive!
Oh, well, I can't think about that today ... I'll think about that tomorrow.
Fiddle-de-dee ...