Late Retirement Puts CBS in Tizzy

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What do you get when you add a liberal think tank study, another liberal “expert, and CBS “Evening News?” You get a doom-and-gloom story about baby boomers remaining in the work force as “an economic necessity” that ignores relevant information.

“The 78 million baby boomers are starting to think about retirement, but for many of them, that’s all they’ll be able to do. Think about it. Two new reports out today show many will have to retire much later than they thought,” said anchor Katie Couric.

Couric also said, “While boomers may be better educated and better paid than their parent, they’re not necessarily better off.”

Now don’t despair boomers. There is something Couric and correspondent Nancy Cordes didn’t tell you.

According to a May 21 story in USA Today, baby boomers are actually much better off than younger generations. People aged 55-59 are $200,000 wealthier than their counterparts aged 35-39.

“Younger generations now delay the start of wealth accumulation,” wrote USA Today reporter Dennis Cauchon. According to Cauchon’s article, the Fed lists age 57 as the year of peak income.

As it turns out, CBS didn’t even make a very good case for the financial hardship of boomers, despite only telling one side with the Brookings Institution study and a comment from the AARP. At least one of her examples pointed out that he is making a choice not to retire yet.

Cordes mentioned 61-year-old Georgia public relations executive Harry Hollingsworth, who doesn’t plan to retire until he’s 70. But Hollingsworth told CBS he is choosing not to retire yet because he “doesn’t think he would be happy just sitting around at home.”

—Julia A. Seymour is an assistant editor for the Business & Media Institute.


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One of my grandparent's neigh

One of my grandparent's neighbors was complaining about how they were going to have to pay I think $15 more dollars for Medicare acting like that was going to bankrupt him, and then in the same conversation said he was cancelling his yearly quarter million dollar donation to OSU because they weren't allowing beer in the tailgating parking lot.

How many generations have regular people been able to retire anyways? I think that except for the insanely weathy it just started towards the middle of last century. I'm already assuming that I will never be able to retire, even though I'm only 25 now, because my taxes are going to continue to go through the roof to pay for all of my parent's generation sucking down Social Security.

Mother nature is a bitch - Ninth Corollary of Murphy's Law

The concept of "retiring

The concept of "retiring" seems to be one of the post-war era.  Now we feel somehow cheated if we're not collecting a pension by the age of 50.  Given that most of us are likely to live into our 90's, it begs the question - what do we plan to do with the next 40 years?

As for me, I figure I can always buy a Lincoln Towncar and do the airport shuttle.  LOL   

nnptcgrad: Your parents genera

nnptcgrad: Your parents generation aren't 'sucking down' social security. When your parents were 25 they were told if they stayed with one company long enough, they could collect their defined benefit plan, all paid for by the employer, when they retired. The gov't told them when they turned 62 they could supplement their retirement with s.s.

So, I don't see where the 'sucking down' comes from? You can retire if you fund your 401K,  and /or Roth account, and put most of that stash in the stock market.

To be so discouraged at age 25 about your future shows me you've been listening to the "America Sucks" political party for way too long!

It's the politicians that have spent the funds for social security, not the 'sucking' from your parents.

Private accounts, instead of the government controlled social security, as George Bush proposed, are the way to go. Too bad the libs, and the current crop of RINO's will never give up the power they have in 'managing' a government program.

Actually, if you are 25 now a

Actually, if you are 25 now and just put $100 a month into a retirement account (investing in an index fund like S&P or Dow 30) you can retire at 55 with a few million in the bank.  With disciplined saving instead of those cheese burgers and fries you wouldn't need Social Security.   Any 401k, 403b, IRA, Roth or Variable Annuity or even Variable Whole Life policy that is available to the average person will produce retirement independence.  It's not the government's responsibility to plan for your retirement, it's yours.  Be responsible, take charge of your life and make the right choices.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

dscott: You said it better an

dscott: You said it better and more concise than I did.

nnptcgrad-- I offer you a challenge---

nnptcgrad-- I offer you a challenge---get in touch with---(call, send a resume) to any job openings you see that are for general business (not xray tech, C+ programmer. See how you will not get any responses or canned "thanks, but no thanks" replies. Or, "we will add your application to our files,yada yada yada.

Your grandparent's neighbor is an exception, not the rule. The attitude about retiring early is a fire that was built by and ignited by major corporations. They had found ways to outsource and save money. This gives them  a great bottom line, but then they have excess employees. It started (best recall) about '86. Friends of mine in the tech industry (Computers , mostly) were offered early retirement packages. It was strongly hinted that it was the best deal that would ever be offered, so a lot of them took it. They possessed skills that were still needed in the market place, so they went to another company and accepted a little less money, but with the early retirement check made more money overall. This did not last. A great number of lesser skilled people tried for months even years with no luck. But, I am getting of thread with that last. The message is that the employers created these attitudes to improve the bottom line. The partial privatization of SS was a great idea. A 401K is a great idea. Your parent's generation were taught almost from birth, that SS was the prize at the end of their working lives that would take care of them in their old age. HAH!

Social Security is a Ponzi

Social Security is a Ponzi scheme - nothing more.

Maybe some boomers are delayi

Maybe some boomers are delaying retirement because they haven't really figured out going to do in retirement and are afraid of being bored to tears?

PJ,I remember when the media

PJ,

I remember when the media did stories about people who wanted to keep on working past retirement age because they didn't want to be bored. That must've been during the Clinton years...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Why would anyone want to reti

Why would anyone want to retire, anyway?  I view "retirement" as simply waiting around to die. 

On the other hand, if one is so set on retiring, there is one sure fire way to assure that one does:  Stop accumulating all that stuff.  Sheesh, a huge chunk of the population below the Rio Grande doesn't even get clothing or shoes until they're 8 or 9 years old.  We on the other hand can't wait to spend a c-note on our screaming treasure's first frock at Baby Gap. 

Never considered Retirement

Since I was a child, I have never considered retiring ever. My grandparents all worked thank God until the literal day they were taken home to heaven.

People are not on this planet to retire, but to work in whatever vocation God places them which helps them grow and be fulfilled. I have a great number of projects I work on non stop from heirloom plant breeding, writing to photon physics to name but a few. Work is a great enjoyment to me as one even in doing things like having a dozen goslings in my kitchen which is a mess has great rewards. You don't have to be Donald Trump to make a difference in life.

One of the Wisest lessons God ever gave me was when I was around 10 and a gal from our bank announced she was retiring. 2 weeks later she was dead. I have seen that kind of thing happen too often to know that one has to be productive here for a greater glory given to God than just sitting around playing golf or complaining that the government isn't giving you womb to the tomb coverage........coverage which is taking money out of poor people's accounts as the government steals from one to give to another voting block of more power.

So here will I be working until Jesus returns. It gives one purpose this strenuous life and it is a wonderful adventure to labor each day. All glory to God and this message has not been brought to you by Billy Graham:)

*HIC IACET ARTORIVS REX QVONDAM REXQVE FVTVRVS

Billy Graham said it best. Th

Billy Graham said it best. The Bible says nothing about retirement, only taking care of the infirm and sick.

Which brings me to a bigger point. SS was not intended to be a way of life and eligible age was originally pegged at expected lifetime. If we raise eligbility to 75, still slightly shy of life expectancy, two things happen: 1. Budget solved. 2 More money for the truly disabled.

I intend to retire, and fish

I intend to retire, and fish for bass and men and women. Just because you stop one vocation, dosent mean you have to stop the others. I will have more time to give to the church and try to win a few more soles to Christ.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

In a bass boat buying/selling

In a bass boat buying/selling shoes?

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

FastEd,       No, no, n

FastEd,

       No, no, no....that's 'soles' as in fish.  But I think he'll have a hard time catching them in a bass lake.

Without recognizing the ordinances of Heaven, it is impossible to be a superior man. - Confucious

lame--retirement

lame--retirement-- I now have the time to find out what is happening, politically and otherwise in our country. I track issues such as immigration, economy, unemployment. etc. It uses a good portion of my day. It woud be great if I could earn some money for all the hours I put in. I am currently updating my knowledge of the Constitution by reading "The Rise of America". I feel, I am "semi" retired.

I wonder how many people are

I wonder how many people are retiring later because they didn't save enough over the course of their lives?  I think this speaks more to the younger generations than the older, but how many people don't have health insurance, save for retirement, put money away for a rainy day etc., but by golly they have their big screen TV, nice stereo, new car, and the like? 

Dutch

I have jokingly said that I

I have jokingly said that I have an expirement plan... :)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Darth--- I worked until I was 73---

Darth--- I worked until I was 73---I have a modest vehicle--a Kia. I "saved "  by investing more payments into my mortgage. My income with my wife working, is modest compared to my income while I was working. Just a little comment on not saving enough over their lives. In America today, divorce is fairly common. When I was 40 years old, I got divorced. I had a good salary, but supporting two households had me living very frugally and absolutely limited my savings ability. I supported my ex-wife and kids for 15 years before they were all grown and out of the house. (I do not begrudge one penny of it, I owed it to them.) Then at 55 years of age is when my second wife and I started planning for retirement. Now you know one reason why I worked until 73. Another reason was, I loved my work. So, it is not a frivolous life style that make a good number of Americans work late into life. Many times their scenario is quite similar to mine.

Retirement--

Quit complaining about paying SS. It helps me get by in my retirement. I retired at 59 years of age. I instantly went to school and got a certificate in another profession. Worked at it for a short while--did not like it--went back to school to update myself in my original profession and went back to work. I retired last April at age 73. My "career" from completing high school spanned 56 years. I was "retired for 4 of those. Y'all are in for a surprise when you get to around 60 and cannot do some of the physical tasks that once were easy. My best friend owns his own business. He is 65 years old. He has rheumatoid arthritis. He cannot work a full week. If I were able , I would continue working. I need spine surgery to help, but even then there are many jobs I cannot do. I know you discussed the disabled--but --if you call me disabled, I'll call you out. My mind is not a restful place to be. I am happiest when I work, but for each of us there is a time when our bodies or our minds say "I have had enough, it is time to rest." Also, for 35 years, I put the max amount into SS. Had I been able to put it in a 401K, I would have more than double the SS check coming in each month.

Misterbill,Anyone who counts

Misterbill,

Anyone who counts on SSI only for retirement deserves a Darwin Award.

I work in construction, though have gotten to the point where I direct a lot more physical labor than I do.  Sometimes though if ya want it done right you have to do it yourself.  I figure to work until 65-66 (about 13 more years)  sometime before that be ready to do something part-time inspection, appraisal, estimating, etc.  It's about being responsible for yourself 

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

botg-- I have a ---

botg-- I have a ---a retirement check in addition to SS. I also have the best retirement plan any old man can have--a working wife. But you have a good plan. There are many jobs that an older person can do if they have no infirmities. A good number work part time to supplement their income. My back has me out of luck on this one, but my local supermarket has seniors working the early shift--6:30 to 2:30P. Then the school kids take over. In the summer the senior take the whole summer break off. It's a good plan. Local community colleges offer many courses that can offer older citizens opportunities for part or full time work in new careers. I just felt at 73, it was my time to step down.

PS One thing that MAY tick you off is when you find how many people expect you to do free volunteer work.

Misterbill the ads are gone s

Misterbill

the ads are gone so enjoy the SSI,

Actually i figure to keep busy is the more important part.  Not working at 66 i'll have more income than i have working today

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

retire

I retired a year ago at 65, for the same reasons so many do - I want to do things, see places, spend time at home.  Well, I did all those things, and after 7 months of retirement, I was going nuts. I started putting in applications all over the place, and discovered it is not too hard to find part-time work when the employer doesn't have to worry about providing benefits, which I have covered by medicare & good supplemental insurance.  I found a nice little part-time job close to home, 20 hrs/week, decent money, and great working conditions, and I feel good about myself.  I think retirement is overrated - looks good from 10 years out, but when you finally get there, kind of a letdown.

EMMA,Even so not "having

EMMA,

Even so not "having" to leave the house at 5am will be nice

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

retire

botg - I would have loved a job that I could get up at 5AM.  I was stuck forever working 2nd shift ./ 3PM - 11PM at a plant 40 miles away from home.  An hour down, an hour back, and required overtime made it even more horrible a daily trip.  As I got older, my night vision was deteriorating, and I averaged one deer hit every couple of years. Sure, I could have found a job closer to home, but the money was good , the benefits were great, and the company was very successful, so I tolerated it, because the plusses outweighed the minuses. I am glad I retired, though....nowhere near the pressure in my part-time job.

As someone told me long ago,

As someone told me long ago, do what you love and you will never work another day in your life. I took that serious, changed vocations and my working arraignments (meaning I refuse to do work for those I cannot work with) Although I do work, I am also lucky enough to do what I love. I will only retire if my abilities cease.

ooohh ... i feel a rambling v

ooohh ... i feel a rambling vent coming along ...

nbc did a similar piece on tuesday ... there is one glaring omission from both network's diatribe on retirement ... personal debt.

referring to the dull/square/lifeless "ozzie and harriet" household to characterize the "greatest generation" and the adventurous/colorful/wild "woodstock generation" as the just-retiring boomer household. 

the same general assessment from both ... the boomers are better educated but destined to work themselves to death because they don't save. 

don't save?  what about the massive accumulation of debt that the offspring of the wwII generation have introduced to our way of living?  where their parent's generation made IBM a household name, the boomers made VISA and MasterCard an appendage to their bodies.  saving is the least of their concerns, because retirement income can't cover a 65 year old who still has 2 or 3 mortgages to pay for the home, home improvements and college educations for the kids ... 2 or 3 "gold" cards with sizeable balances to cover all the vacations they never could afford... the gas cards, the specialty store cards and the personal loans for computers, hdtvs, entertainment systems and car repairs ... then there is insurance to deal with all the therapy for how "stressful" life is.  who can save when their life is nothing but one big lien?

face it, everything the "greatest generation" did has been slowly eroded by successive generations lack of foresight and initiative.  granted, there are exceptions, but on a large scale ... the work ethic has declined, morality has become a historical term, religion is viewed as a joke and we have become selfish and obsessively greedy people.  we want things, we want them now and will pay later (and if we can't, we can take advantage of the lax bankruptcy laws and start all over again).  why save when we can get what we want immediately and pay for it ... forever (and who cares about the lovely 20+%  APR).   the bankruptcies and foreclosures are at record highs ... our cars can cost more than our parent's homes ... we can afford to eat out everyday on credit (and can sit in line at a drive thru when there is an empty lobby).  we can blame everyone (even the President) when things don't go our way, we don't have to tackle our own problems with all the prescription drugs that "fix" everything.  and when things get really bad and we just don't feel like working anymore, we can always quit work and live off the taxpayers generosity through subsidized housing and food stamps.  who needs to save when we can eek out an existance at others' (or the government's) expense.  wow, all this and we can't quit working at 'retirement age" ... poor us. 

looking back, maybe our education is overrated ... "ozzie and harriet" fought world war II and gave us the future ... obviously, their sacrifice and wisdom have more value than piece of paper that cost $60,000+ to earn over 4-5 years ... because basic math is all that is needed to conclude that you can't retire when you owe everyone for everything you own ... and it's not george bush's fault either.

... end of rant.

pmoh-- you are a student of --

pmoh-- you are a student of --American human behavior. I agree with your "rant". I would like to add a supposition--based on one part of your post--

"but on a large scale ... the work ethic has declined, morality has become a historical term, religion is viewed as a joke and we have become selfish and obsessively greedy people."

Sadly true--but, I do not attribute ALL the blame to each and every American for some of the true things you have said. Their environment has been changed severely since most of them were young--TV shows that are risque' for youngsters, movies laden with filth and foul language, sexual permissiveness and even encouragement by those who are supposed to teach our children,  (witness the shameful behavior of the Principal of Boulder High School.) , and rampant drug use.

Americans have been encouraged to live the way they are living now by all the media and all the godless people who are controlling or attempting to control our lives. Bill O'Reilly calls them the Secular Progressives. I call them the historians of Sodom and Gomorrah. You probably call their agents of destruction, the ACLU. We need God back in America, we need to follow the advice of our Founding Fathers who said, (even though some of them were deists) , that the Bible was the moral code  and the Constitution was the civil code of the American people.

 I am not a "Bible thumper", nor a xenophobe. Nor do I consider myself to be a prude. I am 74. I often wonder what my attitude and life would be like if my childhood and youth were filled with the offal of the minds of those who "entertain" us, educate us and legislate for us.

God bless America, but please God, help her first!!!

amen to that misterbill!

amen to that, misterbill!

mb - well stated - our past,

mb - well stated - our past, was very different - yours a little longer than mine - seemed simpler, more personally responsible, more forgiving in some respects, and sadly, some people don't have a clue, specifically the "journalists" of today who don't have any "worldly" experience, who went to college, and believed the agenda that was being taught. Like myself, you were probably taught to question everything ('cept mom and dad), especially what you read in the papers and heard on the radio - later tv. I've gotten into trouble for questioning "authority" or those who thought they had authority, but I've never felt bad or apologetic for those questions, simply because those questioned didn't have an answer, 'cause they didn' know or didn't want to know.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

I've gotten into trouble for questioning "authority"

"I've gotten into trouble for questioning "authority""    --me too! It was never anything big time, but I did get to lose a couple of half-day liberties in the Navy when I asked why certain things were done a certain way. I was suddenly changed from one liberty schedule to another. I learned to question things a bit more silently after that.

My wasn't so serious - just t

My wasn't so serious - just told some little piss-ant, in my not so considerate way, that he hadn't been considerate for not calling that he would late, on a Friday, and that I would have to stay late to finish HIS project, while he went home. He had more juice then me, family connections, but a year later, while I was working somewhere else, the whole company folded. I still held my ground, and he's still a piss-ant. - So it kinda worked out.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

I for one am looking forward

I for one am looking forward to retiring from the City in 4 years at 54.  I have a good pension coming that will keep me out of he poorhouse and 12K shares of exxon as a cushion.  I plan tio get a house on wheels and travel for at least a year and then occupy myself some other way.

I think teh idea is to do something you consider useful and taht stimulates your mind, whatever that may be.  I would like to try my hand at selling cars or perhaps doing some fine woodworking or any number of schemes.  But first I have 2 kids to send through college.  So Ill be working at the City for at least 4 more years and possibly 7 but no more tahn that.  Because at 36 years and 4 months of service you earn 100% of your salary and it would be crazy to continue to work there.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

Dan, go to the Roy L Fuchs school

Dan, if you want to learn how to sell cars, you should go to the Roy L. Fuchs school for selling cars.  He is by far the greatest used car salesman of all time!

"This country is going to the dogs! You know, it used to be when you bought a politician, the s.o.b. stayed bought!"  Roy L Fuchs

As 55-yr-old self-employed re

As 55-yr-old self-employed residents of the Golden State…. my spouse and I are not real pleased by the ever-increasing property, sales and state income taxes that are required to pay the retirement benefits (including health care) of state, county and city employees who retire in their 50’s.  The debate rages over extending the age for receiving Social Security and Medicare benefits, but the California media does not examine the pros/cons of extending the retirement age of government employees.

For myself

I had 3 kids, that was my choice.  I knew 36 years ago, as did we all, that we couldn't strap our children with the burden of supporting us in our old age.

Thanks to our "broken" healthcare system, we are living some 30 years beyond FDR's suckers bet with the electorate.

Me?  I'll celebrate my health and sound mind by working a few extra years.

And when the morning light comes streaming in I'll get up and do it again.  Amen. - Jackson Browne

Lysdexics Untie!

As a "boomer", what

As a "boomer", what our parents, friends, schools, associates, etc., didn't tell us, was - become rich. Work hard, obtain wealth, find out how to make money grow, don't depend on the govenment or social security, 'cause it ain't.

What they constantly harped on, and I heard all the time, by my demolib family members was, "The rich get richer, the poor get poorer". Never once did they say, "Get rich!".

Ohers here have said it too, we were brought up durring a time when you went to work for ONE company, get a pension, retire, collect social security, die. Now, life happened to throw a curve. Personal responsibility was replaced by, the Kennedy antithesis - what can my government do for ME - give me more health money, give me more social security, give me. And no-one mentioned that I would have to give - more taxes, more fees, give up some freedoms, give up retiring early.

As pointed out by Julia, above in her posting, most of us just want to continue what we like to do, get some cash for it, try to keep the govenment off our backs, and stop only when we want or have to (due to physicall brakedown).
Unfortunately, fighting the demolibs and media bias, is going to be a long time job, but a job that needs to be done. Nobody said fighting cowards was easy.  

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V