Al Roker was one of the villagers with torches who stormed the castle demanding that Don Imus be fired, but now the foot is in the other mouth. On the June 7 edition of the “Today” show, during a segment discussing London's truly horrible 2012 Olympic logo, which was said to have driven people into epileptic seizures upon viewing, Roker cracked a joke about the disorder. Without turning inflecting a politically correct tone or blowing the situation out of proportion, the New York Post reported his comments and next-day apology (hat tip: Insignificant Thoughts):
"Remember that controversial Olympic logo for the 2012 Olympics in London? Some folks have complained that the campaign actually sent them into epileptic seizures," Roker said on Thursday's show.
"Well, we asked you to weigh in on our Web site in an informal poll; those of you who could get up off the floor after shaking around were able to actually log in…"
I guess things have changed since Roker wrote in his blog that he was sick of the “ 'humor' at others expense” and “the cruelty that passes for funny” (bold mine throughout):
I, for one, am really tired of the diatribes, the "humor" at others expense, the cruelty that passes for "funny". Don imus isn't the only one doing this, but today he's the one in the hot seat.
What he said was vile and disgusting. It denigrated an entire team and by extension, a community and its pride in a group that had excelled.
(...)
The "I'm a good person who said a bad thing" apology doesn't cut it. At least he didn't try to weasel out of this by hiding behind alcohol or drug abuse. Still, he said it and a two week suspension doesn't cut it. It is, at best a slap on the wrist. A vacation. Nothing.
(...)
...it's obvious that he needs to move on. Citing "context within a comedy show" is not an exscuse (sic).
He has to take his punishment and start over. Guess what? He'll get re-hired and we'll go on like nothing happened. CBS Radio and NBC News needs to remove Don Imus from the airwaves. That is what needs to happen. Otherwise, it just looks like profits and ratings rule over decency and justice.
Bold words from a man casually walking a similar path. The media ignored a hypocritical joke from Roker, which, as Roker claimed about Imus’ remark, contained “cruelty that passes for ‘funny.’ " Or, perhaps the media ignored the joke because neither the “victim” nor the “perpetrator” fell into their favored categories? However, Roker’s situation differed from Imus’ because the weatherman didn’t have the “excuse” of making the comment on a comedy show.
The Post included the apology, which was delivered the next day:
"I started joking about it. I want to make this clear - I was not joking about epilepsy or anyone who suffers from epilepsy,” he said at around 8:04 a.m. while he was delivering a weather report from Milwaukee..
"We understand and know that this is a serious affliction and would never joke about that.
"We were joking about the logo - not about epilepsy. If anybody was offended, I heartily and really humbly apologize."
So, in this case, the “ 'I'm a good person who said a bad thing' apology” does cut it?
I'm not firing up my own torch and calling for Roker's termination. I don't think he should be fired or hounded. The MSM, “tolerant” leftists and activist groups couldn't push the Imus controversy fast enough or long enough, but Roker's joke somehow evaded their “tolerance radar.” It really seems as though when the offender is on the left, the media allow a comment to be termed a “joke” or a “bad joke,” but when the comment is from someone on the right or someone who isn't left “enough,” it is labeled racism, sexism, prejudice or intolerance.
I just find it interesting that there was no artificially-induced “groundswell” of outrage demanding that another insensitive bigot be fired. I guess Media Matters doesn't care about handicapped people.
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Imus firing
June 13, 2007 - 12:16 ET by exLibI fully believe that Imus got "lynched" because a week early he was calling Hillary evil and other names and stating that nobody could/should ever vote for her for POTUS and despite being pretty left of center he was never afraid to call out lefties.
He was an equal opportunity offender, and had he just know his place and only went after the right he would have been either ignored or quickly forgiven by the media.
Who is Al Roker and why shoul
June 13, 2007 - 13:27 ET by buddycWho is Al Roker and why should I care what he says about anything?
I agree with you on Imus. His mistake was disliking, insulting and making an enemy of Hillary. She got him.
democrat disgrace
June 13, 2007 - 12:25 ET by bulbasaurThis is reminiscent of a very dark moment in America's history when the Vice President of the United States, Al Gore, ridiculed the "extra chromosome right wing."
These elites see themselves as an aristocracy, and their doing so is very much at the core of the culture war.
Roker
June 13, 2007 - 12:32 ET by iveseenitallAl Roker, Bryant Gumball, Sharpton, and Jackson have one thing in common: the color of their skin. Racism is alive and well on the hypocritic turf of Liberalland.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
Exactly! Liberals in gener
June 13, 2007 - 12:43 ET by mattmExactly! Liberals in general are immune from criticism. Liberals who are also members of "protected classes" are even moreso.
However, Roker’s situation
June 13, 2007 - 12:35 ET by Dave RHowever, Roker’s situation differed from Imus’ because the weatherman didn’t have the “excuse” of making the comment on a comedy show.
Actually, I believe the only difference here is the fact that Don Imus reflects more light than does Al Roker.
Build the damn fence, George!
Dear Mr. Roker,I am deeply of
June 13, 2007 - 12:59 ET by Roger the ShrubberDear Mr. Roker,
I am deeply offended by your insensitivity.
Sincerely,
Joe Cocker
It's always hard to live up t
June 13, 2007 - 12:59 ET by Chris NormanIt's always hard to live up to the standards one sets for others...
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
Not sure "getting up off
June 13, 2007 - 13:08 ET by balboaNot sure "getting up off the floor" is equatable to "nappy headed hoes," but good effort.
what if
June 13, 2007 - 13:46 ET by LionKingWhat if it was "getting pulled up off the floor by their nappy head" ?
[Then would he be in trouble?]
Rush Limbaugh...Micheal J. Fo
June 13, 2007 - 15:08 ET by TruthMongerRush Limbaugh...Micheal J. Fox...Parkinsons...white...conservative...hell unleashed...
Roker...epiletics...African American...liberal...free pass...
Newsbuster's influence continues to grow...we shall overcome...we have a dream...
You're right - any hint of ra
June 13, 2007 - 14:11 ET by mattmYou're right - any hint of racism is to be condemned, whereas mocking the afflicted is O.K. - especially when done by a member of a "protected class."
One thing that puzzles me...
June 13, 2007 - 14:12 ET by Hero SquadOne thing that puzzles me... in Stevie Wonder's song "I Wish," he reflects with affection "back on when I was a little nappy headed boy."
Am I to take it now that this reference is offensive and not nostalgic?
Roker's and Imus's comments do have one thing in common, they are both just not funny. And I know funny... I'M A CLOWNFISH!
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Right
June 13, 2007 - 14:20 ET by iveseenitallSo right, bal. Only jokes about race are offensive. Liberals are such illogical hypocrites.
NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal
I think Imus' intent was to
June 13, 2007 - 16:24 ET by balboaI think Imus' intent was to deride, to insult those women, based on race. I think Roker was joking about the affliction of epilepsy, not deriding those who had it.
Maybe Imus was merely joking
June 13, 2007 - 18:16 ET by mattmMaybe Imus was merely joking about the hip-hop culture...and not personally or racially attacking anyone in particular...
The point here is the double standard...
Gee Bal, you wouldn't be tr
June 13, 2007 - 17:08 ET by Lynn DavidsonGee Bal, you wouldn't be trivializing epilepsy would you? That's not very tolerant. I predict the PC police will be knocking at your door at any moment.
Gee Bal, you wouldn't be tr
June 13, 2007 - 17:18 ET by balboaGee Bal, you wouldn't be trivializing epilepsy would you?
Nope.
So Kanye West is handicappe
June 13, 2007 - 13:12 ET by sanskritgSo Kanye West is handicapped?
No, I was referring the com
June 13, 2007 - 21:43 ET by Lynn DavidsonNo, I was referring the comment that Kanye made when he said, "George Bush doesn't care about black people." That was what that sentence played off of.
"Those of you who could
June 13, 2007 - 13:34 ET by Higgins WR"Those of you who could get up off the floor after shaking around"
-- As the father of a 2 yr. old w/ epilepsy...seeing someone you love 'shaking around' on the floor is extremely frightening, not humorous at all.....seizures seriously decrease the supply of oxygen reaching the brain, and can cause brain injury EVERY TIME! They're not funny and joking about them is in very poor taste.
"We were joking about the logo-not about epilepsy" -- Who's 'we'? And what a terrible attempt at a cop-out.....the logo wasn't logging on after getting up off the floor, so explain to me again how the 'joke' was aimed at the logo and not epilepsy and its sufferers.
"If anybody was offended, I apologize" --- So if I wasn't offended, no apology? Go screw yourself, Al !
What he said was more offensive than what Imus said...and what Imus said is still being said today, you just can't get away with it unless you're black, then it's fine, it's a cultural thing. What ever, Either say it or don't, but the double standard is BS.
Probably the "we" h
June 13, 2007 - 13:49 ET by HypocriteHaterProbably the "we" he is referring to includes his cohorts on the show that laughed along at his "joke". You can hear them giggling away in the background.
Didn't you hear? Epilepsy jokes are all the rage amoung the liberal elites.
Somehow I don't think Al would find it funny if someone said "Well, we asked you to weigh in (get it?) on our website in an informal poll; those of you who could get up out of your chair without the assistance of a crane were able to actually log in."
"If anybody was offended
June 13, 2007 - 14:14 ET by Hero SquadIn other words, "I'm apologizing for the way you took my comments, not for the comments themselves." So I think he's trying to apologize for your inability to understand what he was saying, Higgins. Isn't he swell?
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
on the floor
June 13, 2007 - 15:07 ET by tejanodiabloi have epilepsy. i take 1500MG of depakote ER every day. i HATE that crap. the dr. busted it down to three 500MG pills i take every night but i don't do pills very well .. plus it makes me shake like hell so i don't even bother owning a pistole any more .. i also gained 25 lbs. that i really, really don't need .. i'm not sure if the meds aren't worse than the condition .. did roker like jokes about FAT people ??
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
Your disease is freakin hilar
June 13, 2007 - 15:12 ET by TruthMongerYour disease is freakin hilarious you shakity weirdo!!!
Sincerely, Al Roker, fat bastard
big al
June 13, 2007 - 15:43 ET by tejanodiablowell, al, Truthmangler is a good name for you ..
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
re-read my post till you get
June 13, 2007 - 15:45 ET by TruthMongerre-read my post till you get it right bro:)
big al
June 13, 2007 - 15:55 ET by tejanodiablowell, AL, thruthmangler is a good name for you ... comprende ahora ?
never look a gift skunk in the tail ..
If anybody was offended, I ap
June 13, 2007 - 21:11 ET by dahliatraversIf anybody was offended, I apologize.
Dontcha love that?
Maybe you should figure out if you were offensive before opening your mouth. 'Cause if you weren't, you don't need to apologize. But if you were, those words are more offensive than not apologizing.
Double Standard Alert
June 13, 2007 - 13:40 ET by Blogger Guy00001There is obviously a double standard in action here. Anyone who is conservative or identified as such by the liberal media is ALWAYS WRONG, even if he is right. Anyone who is liberal is NEVER WRONG, even if he is wrong. Roker has protection because of various things, including his liberalism.
I may be an epileptic but...
June 13, 2007 - 14:06 ET by Shooter1002when I picked myself up off the floor and checked in the mirror I didn't see no nappy headed token weatherBOY!!!
Tomorrow I'll be just fine but you will still be......
Glass houses suck, so do hypo
June 13, 2007 - 14:35 ET by general companyGlass houses suck, so do hypocrites. When you insist others pay dearly, the karma that goes with it will not be denied
Hero - Exactly! If for some r
June 13, 2007 - 14:38 ET by Higgins WRHero - Exactly!
If for some reason, you took what I said the way I said it, rather than the way I meant it, well sorry for you.
As an Army EO Representative, this is an un-apology. You don't apologize for something from the position of "If anybody was offended", you apologize "to anyone who was offended"...not even to those who 'may have' been offended.....You start from the position that someone was likely offended. Not the 'possibility' that there may be someone out there who may or may not have been offended.
I know it sounds nit-picky, but it speaks to the message that gets through. And Mr. Roker's 'apology' delivers the message of "I don't think it was offensive, but if you were offended, well, so sorry, I'll try not to let it happen again."
I think he should have to go through sensitivity training at a minimum......but seeing as he is a public figure, who is frequently able to voice his opinions on national television...he should be canned. You don't give people who make these sorts of 'jokes' second chances. Had he been white, and on the radio, and conservative he'd already be on 'administrative leave'.
Meanwhile, Isaiah Washington
June 13, 2007 - 14:55 ET by Hero SquadMeanwhile, Isaiah Washington ("Grey's Anatomy") gets fired after being contrite, apologizing with sincerity and doing everything he was asked to do following his insensitive remarks allegedly targeting a homosexual castmember. The thought police are in full swing these days. At least for some.
Anyone know his political affiliation?
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Anyone know his political aff
June 13, 2007 - 15:37 ET by HypocriteHaterAnyone know his political affiliation?
Anti-homosexual. That's all it takes to get on the wrong side of the thought police. He can't even enjoy the protected status of being african-american, because the gay lobby rules supreme!
Ironic pettiness.
June 13, 2007 - 15:31 ET by CTMs Davidson,
This business with Al Roker's joke is too petty to deserve a posting on NewsBusters. Does the irony of your complaint escape you?
What's ironic about the compl
June 13, 2007 - 15:42 ET by Darth DutchWhat's ironic about the complaint?
Dutch
Some people, who comment here
June 13, 2007 - 15:58 ET by Chris NormanSome people, who comment here, think everything on NewsBusters is too "petty" to be discussed on NewsBusters. "Nothing here, move along..."
The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.
- Arabian Proverb
First, I'm not complaining
June 13, 2007 - 17:37 ET by Lynn DavidsonCT--First, I'm not complaining that Roker said it. My issue is with the hypocritical liberal victim establishment, along with the media, that picks and choose who and what is worthy of "protection" from insult. If you don't think this is important, then you don't realize that these self-appointed arbiters of speech decide what people get to joke about. Dick Cheney's gay daughter is OK to make fun of but not John Edwards, who isn't even gay? By controlling speech, especially in a way that is biased and uneven, society and culture are controlled.
While I think the joke was inappropriate for the setting (and clearly not an intentional slight), my post was not supposed to point out the outrage people should feel about the statement, but the uneven manufactured outrage industry, which is driven by liberal activist groups and the media.
Are there hard and fast rul
June 13, 2007 - 17:41 ET by balboaAre there hard and fast rules for who you can make fun of? I don't think there are, truthfully. Who was joking about Dick Cheney's daughter? I'd like to hear the context.
Point taken Lynn
June 13, 2007 - 18:01 ET by CTPoint taken Lynn,
John Edwards isn't gay?
Al Roker is an undisciplined,
June 13, 2007 - 15:59 ET by walkAl Roker is an undisciplined, weak pig. He had to have his stomach stapled because he just couldn't stop stuffing his pie hole with donuts and he is still fat. And, omg, could this court jester be any less funny?
The Today Show, led by Matt Lauer, is the perfect example of the wussification of America.
Hey CT, How is Roker's 'joke
June 13, 2007 - 16:13 ET by Higgins WRHey CT,
How is Roker's 'joke' less offensive and less deserving of criticism than say, for example, oh I don't know.....Imus' 'joke'?
I wasn't offended by the 'joke' made by Imus, but I can damn sure understand how somebody could have been. Roker's 'joke' did offend me, as does your reference to it as 'petty'.
Higgins WR - Get over yourself.
June 13, 2007 - 17:59 ET by CTHiggins WR,
Get over yourself.
There are just some things yo
June 13, 2007 - 21:05 ET by dahliatraversThere are just some things you don't joke about. These remarks were over the line.
Unfortunately, some in the msm look upon African-Americans as victims so hold them to a different standard. So far, that is holding true for Al Roker.
Dahlia, I have to disagree
June 14, 2007 - 03:09 ET by Lynn DavidsonDahlia, I have to disagree with you about that. Saying that there are some things that just shouldn't be joked about is why Imus couldn't make his remarks without getting fired yet Al Roker could. I'm not saying that people shouldn't be respectful anymore, but when certain types of people, issues, illnesses, etc. are singled out as off limits, then there will be a bias in what can be joked about and what can't.
The argument you gave is the exact same argument given to keep the Danish Mohammad cartoons out of the media and the Mohammad image out of that South Park episode. What happens when people who have different ideas of what should just never be joked about, are effectively choosing what is allowed to be made fun of and what isn't?
Al Roker agitated for Don Imu
June 14, 2007 - 07:22 ET by dahliatraversLynn, Al Roker agitated for Don Imus' firing when he said something offensive. Don't I get to agitate for Roker's firing now that he's said something offensive ...?
That's everyone's right, but
June 14, 2007 - 19:47 ET by Lynn DavidsonThat's everyone's right, but where does it end? Don't agitate to achieve payback for a previous comment or witch hunt. Pick and choose carefully, because who wants to live in a world where no one can make jokes any more? I'll say it again. Roker's comments were inappropriate for his setting, but making some topic off-limits means that someone is deciding which ones are off-limits. That's usually fine until there is a shift and specific humor is protected while others are outlawed.
For example, atheists can make fun of "Jeebus" and Christianity, but they are not allowed to make fun of Mohammad or Islam. Nick Ginsburne and others were banned from YouTube for giving Islam the same treatment that Christianity gets on a daily basis.
I would much rather live in a country where I can make fun of everything, even if that means that something that I care about and am sensitive toward is ridiculed, than living in a country where there are special groups that are off-limits, even with political satire such as "South Park."
An issue that Newsbusters covers is the disparity between what kind of speech and humor is allowed and what isn't--and why.
Damn. I was looking forward
June 14, 2007 - 23:19 ET by dahliatraversDamn. I was looking forward to having a double standard ...
I don't know if I could say w
June 14, 2007 - 10:32 ET by Hero SquadI don't know if I could say wholesale that there are some things you can't joke about, but there are certainly things that if you are going to try, you really need to tread carefully.
Case in point: Immediately after 9/11, that seemed quite clearly to be a topic to avoid for any comedy whatsoever. Two weeks later, The Onion creates a drop dead brilliant issue dealing with 9/11, the lead story being about the hijackers in hell confused about what happened to their expected paradise. Sometimes, laughter is a necessary tonic.
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
You make an excellent point.
June 14, 2007 - 20:11 ET by Lynn DavidsonYou bringi up an important distinction. There is a difference between banning speech, whether through pressure, laws or rules and "treading carefully" out of consideration to avoid hurting people's feelings. Laugher does heal, and humor can often be used to address a greater truth. Voluntary sensitivity is one thing, but I wouldn't want to live in a world where people can't joke around and political satire is verboten.
What is comes down to is this:
Some humor is more equal than others, especially political satire, and that's wrong.