On NPR’s new talk show "Tell Me More," Michel Martin brought her sympathies to the cause of Cindy Sheehan and her "devastating conclusion" to withdraw from the public arena (Martin made no mention on the air of her disgust with the Democratic Party). She interviewed three other "anti-war" mothers of soldiers who died in Iraq, and asked if they were disappointed by Sheehan’s decision and how conservatives have made their lives difficult: "Cindy Sheehan reports that she's paid a very high price for her activism. She said her life has been threatened. She's been called, you know, many, many derogatory names, you know, some of which I can't really repeat here. I'd like to know have you felt that you've paid a price for your activism?" Martin made no mention of the many derogatory names Sheehan used for President Bush (an "evil maniac," the "biggest terrorist") or his cause ("the cancer of Pax Americana.")
The conversation even turned to American racism, with Martin asserting "we know that minorities are disproportionately represented in the military, particularly in the Army. And yet, many of the people we've seen be most publicly active in opposing the war have not generally included minorities, and you are among the few." Mother Elaine Johnson complained that the media might be racist for focusing on Sheehan and not on her.
Martin began the segment:
Cindy Sheehan, one of the country's most prominent anti-war activists, announced this week that she is stepping away from the limelight, from public activism, and from serving as the face of the anti-war movement. That's the world she assumed after her son Casey Sheehan died while serving in Iraq in 2004.
In a statement released on Memorial Day, Sheehan said she'd come to the devastating conclusion that her son did indeed die for nothing, and that she was stepping aside in order to reclaim her health and take care of her surviving children.
On Monday's program, we heard from families who are mourning the lost of loved ones in the Iraq war. We visited them at Arlington National Cemetery. Today, we hear from mothers who have channeled their grief in the same way that Cindy Sheehan did - into opposing the war.
But Sheehan has repeatedly said her son Casey died for nothing, and that never stopped her from protesting. After asking each mother about their own son’s deaths and how it spurred them into protest, Martin turned the conversation back to Cindy Sheehan:
MARTIN: Many people have criticized Cindy Sheehan throughout the time that she first began speaking out. And some of the people who've criticized her have also got military families, who say that it is disrespectful and certainly to the memory of loved ones who have been lost to say that they died for nothing. So Celeste, how do you respond to that?
CELESTE ZAPPALA: Every military person has said that there will be a political solution someday, and I believe that that political solution has to begin when the U.S. troops leave Iraq. So I don't think it denigrates the honor of these truly noble people. I certainly don't think that this administration has honored them by sending them into this immoral war.
MARTIN: We're talking to mothers who have lost children in the Iraq war and have made the decision to speak out against the war. Celeste, I wanted to ask - Cindy Sheehan reports that she's paid a very high price for her activism. She said her life has been threatened. She's been called, you know, many, many derogatory names, you know, some of which I can't really repeat here. I'd like to know have you felt that you've paid a price for your activism? I'd like to ask the other mothers that as well.
Ms. ZAPPALA: The price that I've paid has been a different one. I work with my other two sons and their dad, and our whole family has been together on this. And so the price that we've paid has been that this effort to end the war has become the focus of our lives.
MARTIN: Are you disappointed that Cindy Sheehan has decided to withdraw from public activism?
Ms. ZAPPALA: I feel badly for her. It does take a big toll, I understand that. But we're all sisters in this sorrow and grief, and I hope that she feels better. I know that all of us are still here working towards the goal of bringing the war to an end.
And that's - you know, 10 more soldiers died on Monday. There'll be more dead people tomorrow. We can't stand down. We have to keep working and speaking and holding our representatives accountable. They have not represented us well.
MARTIN: Doris Kent, what about you? Are you disappointed?
Ms. KENT: I think I was surprised at first, but not disappointed. I've always admired her and was grateful that she was speaking out and that the media was paying attention to her because even if they didn't pay attention to me, at least they were hearing someone's voice on the pain of what it's been like to not have these - not have our sons. Cindy struggled with it every day in a public way. And for that, I think we all need to be grateful.
MARTIN: Elaine Johnson, are you disappointed that Cindy Sheehan's decided to withdraw?
Ms. JOHNSON: I'm not disappointed, but I'm going to go back to ‘04 and me and Ms. Celeste and Cindy and all of us was a member of the gold family, Military Families Speak Out. We did a terrific march in ‘04. All of us was together, we was at one. Cindy decided to pull out and be independent.
And that was like, we were no more - she was no more a part of us. I feel that if we would have stayed together and be as one like we started to, we would be more effective. If one family is getting tired, we are there to support each other and like, say, okay, we can do this because a military family is a big support system.
But if you're out there all alone, quite naturally, you're going to get caught up and you're going to forget that you did - you started out with these people and they are still here. I'm still here for Cindy.
MARTIN: Elaine, let me talk about this with you for a minute. One of the things that I've wondered about is that we know that minorities are disproportionately represented in the military, particularly in the Army. And yet, many of the people we've seen be most publicly active in opposing the war have not generally included minorities, and you are among the few. I'm wondering why that is.
Ms. JOHNSON: Michel, that is something that I am actually working on. I've asked the black African-American people to join me, but it's still a thing with the African-America versus the White. I've been - me and Cindy in March together in 04.
And after that, we have been on many speaking engagements together, but it was like the media just focused on Cindy, Cindy, Cindy. Cindy is not the only gold star mothers. We have tons of gold star mothers that are speaking out, but not getting the attention. So...
MARTIN: Why did you think that is, Elaine? Why do you think that is?
Ms. JOHNSON: The media always - it capitalizes on - and I don't want to be a racist. But I'm just going to call it like I'm seeing it, okay? Me and Cindy march hand to hand. The media went straight to Cindy. And what surprises me now after Cindy throw in the towel, I have done five radio interviews yesterday and they would never call me. Never.
We've been used to struggling, you know. Black folks been struggling for a long time. I'm struggling now, and I'm still going to be struggling because I'm struggling with my son's death. So that's the struggle. Everybody's struggling in a different way.
Martin added to her liberal advocacy (and inaccuracy) in a blog post on the NPR website that inaccurately claimed President Bush never met Cindy Sheehan, when he did -- before she started trashing him.
From the minute she burst onto the scene, Cindy Sheehan has been a lightening rod. It seems the labeling of her activism saw both ends of the spectrum. She was either viewed as the Mother Theresa [sic] of the anti-war movement -- the woman who sacrificed her life so that other women's children would be spared -- or the worst of the worst, using her son Casey's death in Iraq to advance her own personal agenda ("attention whore" was the word she used on her blog posting to describe how her critics referenced her).
I remember when she first began camping out in Crawford, Texas, in August 2005. Her son, Casey, had been killed the year before. She told anybody who would listen that she just wanted answers about what Casey's death was really for. The President even sent his National Security Adviser, Stephen Hadley, out to meet with her. Of course, what she really wanted was to meet the President himself. He would not, and never did meet with her.
In my reporter's conceit, I always wondered: Why wouldn't the President just send his "secret weapon" out instead -- that would be Laura Bush, of course -- who could have invited her over for egg salad sandwiches and iced tea when the President was out cutting brush or something? I thought Laura might connect with her mother-to-mother. Hey, nobody's paying me for this advice, so I kept it to myself (until now), but I always wondered what would have happened if the President had connected to Cindy Sheehan as a grieving mother instead of as some hard-edged "lefty" political activist.
But she was a hard-edged lefty political activist. Listening to her talk for any length of time would demonstrate it.
—Tim Graham is Director of Media Analysis at the Media Research Center















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Does anyone else detect an em
June 5, 2007 - 07:16 ET by sarcasmoDoes anyone else detect an embedded assumption by most people on various sides of this issue that all protestors actually help the cause(s) they support or purport to support?
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Here's an example the media h
June 5, 2007 - 07:37 ET by UnsaneHere's an example the media hopes and prays we'll all forget: Europe going bonkers in 1983 over the decision to deploy GLCMs and Pershing IIs in Germany and the UK. What was the response? Well, the Polizei got to let off a little steam at various American installations by blasting protestors with water cannons and cracking their heads open (remember, the Polizei don't seem to understand what "police brutality" means, even today) and...well, that was pretty much it. The man who allowed the Americans to go forward, Helmut Kohl, was entering his second full year of power at that time; the second of sixteen years in office!
In spite of the whiners, the nukes got deployed, and less than a decade later, the Cold War was won.
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. - Vegetius
The Minority Thing is a Load...
June 5, 2007 - 07:22 ET by OldSailor88I still can't believe that the public is still so uneducated about the minority breakdown of the Services. Just a little research will show you that everything that was said in this interview is not true. I invite you to look for yourself. Here is the Army's Demographics Department website. Their statistics for FY2005 are up, and soon I'm sure you'll see FY2006.
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/Demographics.asp
The Military continues to be the model for how equal opportunity and racial integration works. I've worked Aircraft Carriers for a lot of my career, and you don't get a more varied demographic than that. I'm sure all of the other Services are the same. Drop the freaking race card when speaking of us. The problems you wish to be there don't exist. Get over it.
As for Ms. Sheehan. I feel sorry for the lady. Her misplaced grief has caused the loss of her entire family. Husband was running laps for charity to assist slain Soldiers on the day she was leaving the Dems and the Anti-War loonies. Her children stopped speaking to her long ago after they told her that Casey would be ashamed of what she was doing. I hope she moves on in peace and comes to grips with her loss. I also hope that she and her family can reconcile their differences so that they can mourn their loss together and be proud of their Hero Soldier for his sacrifice.
Old sailor, you are correct..
June 5, 2007 - 08:56 ET by BDOld sailor, you are correct...
If NPR were REALLY doing their job in the editorial department they would never have allowed Martin to make the claim that racially minorities were OVER represented when in fact minorities are actually underrepresented in combat units.
Dirty little secret is that for the last twenty years, African Americans have been self selecting Military occupational specialties in the Combat Support (Engineer, Signal corps,my branch MI, etc) and especially Combat Service Support (Ordnance, Quartermaster, Transportation etc).
Hispanics are also less likely to serve in the infantry, Armor, Field Artillary, Air Defense Artillery as well.
Who IS over represented in the Infantry?
Conservative White guys from North Carolina who grew up hunting, fishing, and voting republican. (That last one was a free hit since I so RARELY come across an infantry officer who has ever voted democrat....Hehehehehehe...)
Interesting
June 5, 2007 - 09:27 ET by OldSailor88That's interesting stuff to know, BD, thanks for the support. Us Squids don't have a lot of "in your face" warriors, so we don't have the selection of MOS to avoid combat as you do. The job of choice on the ship is where the air conditioning is. However, if you look at the Spec Ops boys, the demographics of Warriors there are the same as yours. And, like you, not many Dems in the bunch Navy wide. I think that's part of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
Concur with your assessment.
June 5, 2007 - 11:10 ET by BDConcur with your assessment. THough the only experience I have with Navy folks is in a joint unit I was assigned for several years, I agree with you.
One of the other things that bothers me is that the press reports that we are chaptering gay arabic linguists out of the services at an amazing rate. What they do not report is that the bulk of these seperations from service are based on claims by personnel who rarely are actually homosexual. Rather these are actioned by personnel who take the easy - non judgemental route out of their service contracts.
If we were to do away with the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy today, we will likely still end up seperating these personnel from the service, just for different excuses.
But does the press do the research to find this out? No, the Pink Journalists with the story to conform to their preconceived notions. If the press were to dig deep enough they would find that these same "Don't ask, Don't tell" chapterees actually marry women and father children in later years.
Which minority again???
June 5, 2007 - 10:33 ET by Ole_SargeI 'm a 22 year Air Force Retired Vet. I cannot argue with your observations, since they mirror what I have seen myself.
The only minority I ever found in my years of service were "the cowards' and the "turn-coats." As far as race, ethinic background, religion and all the rest -- I found that the troops I served with viewed themselves as Americans in uniform/military service first, everything else was a long back aways second.
No matter WHAT the original idea that got them into uniform was, most by the time all their mandatory training was accomplished and they were out "in the real Air Force" (on a base, with a mission besides training). The pride, the "do it" attitude, the drive to accomplish the mission.... It took my breath away.
In wonderful places like Germany, in the heat, humidity and buggy environs of Panama and the deserts of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Many "young" kids were men and women that carried a heavy burden - our National Defense.
We talk about the WW II generation that is slowly leaving all of us behind, as the "Greatest!" Ladies and Gentlemen what NPR and the MSM are missing is in FAR far fewer numbers, our "Greatest" generation is before our eyes now.
The only minority I ever saw was one of Americans of every demographic category that is putting ideals such as service, integrity and excellence, with duty, honor and country first; that act with courage and commitment. No matter what color the uniform, the rank or grade or even duty location or job description.
I have been disappointed for YEARS with NPR's coverage of "anything." I got to listen to more than my share of their drivel while stationed overseas during much of the Clinton Administration. (It was a wee-bit easier to live with, being overseas).
AFRTS carried "hours" of NPR programming, and very little else besides various canned music shows. Too bad their "reality" of life in America was NOT matching up to what my family, or my state-side friends were experiencing.
From Friends still overseas - it's still that way, except they always seem to get the news and the stories behind the news wrong every time. And never is there "positive" news.
I like your spirit, Old Sailo
June 5, 2007 - 09:31 ET by kathleenirishI like your spirit, Old Sailor. It is uplifting. You are right. Her grief was misplaced. Although I deplore Cindy Sheehan's words and tactics, the MSM used her grief and frankly, her mental illness, to hammer Bush and the effort for victory in Iraq. Beating up our brave and great military was their cause, through all means possible.
Beyond despicable. AP- hope you and yours fail miserably. You deserve nothing less.
Anyone who says they support the troops but not the mission is a liar.
"we know that minoriti
June 5, 2007 - 10:50 ET by motherbelt"we know that minorities are disproportionately represented in the military, particularly in the Army..." Michel Martin
I notice that Ms. Martin offers no proof other than the throw-away line "we know..."
I seem to remember reading not long ago that the percentage of blacks in the military is roughly equal to their representation in the general population, but I can't remember where.
Anyone have any specifics on that?
Cindy, really should have loo
June 5, 2007 - 11:11 ET by ucCindy, really should have looked to see whom she was getting into bed with. The loss of her's is tragic and heroic,yet to blame Bush and not Clinton eight years is political. Hillary went around Middle East publicly announcing that their women deserve education and equal rights. Bill never put real pressure on Saddam Hussein when his atrocities were much fresher in minds around the world. Bill didn't pull back together the coalition from Persian Gulf War and make arguments for compliance beyond a reasonable doubt on WMD. Bill didn't put together a plan for Iraq either for the take down of Hitler like Saddam or post take down and freeing of Iraqies even though Hillary wanted even Iraqi women I hope to have rights. When Bill took office we knew people inside Iraq wanted relief from Saddam and we knew then Saddam had WMD. Was I the only one that listened to Hillary and heard "only in her lifetime if there is war"? Bill and his response(?) to world wide terrorism does seem to have emboldened and left Bush no greater options than the ones he has had. A different strategy may only have been appropriate and available during the Clinton years, before we look like such hypocrites and before Clinton had so emboldened Al Qaeda.
The only reason Cindy Sheehan
June 5, 2007 - 12:16 ET by dscottThe only reason Cindy Sheehan is not continuing is the MSM is tired of her as the spokes person for the Anti-War/Peace movement. Protesting is not futile to change government policy, just the people and means of protesting can be futile.
Let's see Cindy Sheehan became a media whore to the point she complained about hurricanes bumping her from the first billing on the news. So Cindy, you became the news by your narissistic choice instead of the Anti-War protest. Your personal narissism invalidated your personal claims regarding Casey. Then let's move on to the questionable people you chose to associate with like Chavez, the Anti-US hatemonger of South America. Associating with people who intend harm to the US is not a sure fire means to demonstrate the US shouldn't use military power to achieve it's objectives. On the contrary, people like Chavez are precisely the enemies who ultimately draw the US into military confrontation like Saddam. The public realized that and so you looked naive and instead of helping the peace movement you actually demonstrated why the US needs to be aggressive.
Tim already covered the name calling, which pretty much lowers the caller to childishness in stature. Name calling to demonize a person is the exact opposite of the peace movements aims which is to foster dialog, trust and respect in order to avoid military confrontation. The point of demonizing is to strip the enemy of their humanity in the eyes of others to justify aggression, name calling is not a gesture of peace. You can't be a representative or advocate for peace when you engage in demonization.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
This is the woman who sided w
June 5, 2007 - 12:38 ET byThis is the woman who sided with Venezuela Dictator Hugo Chavez who swore he would bring down our government: Click Here
She was estranged from her son when he died. She was not a real mother. She gave birth, murderers give birth. It takes far more than just giving birth to make a woman a real mother.
Let's hope she crawls back under the rock from which she came out from under. She should have been kicked out of America years ago.
Debra...