AP Story on Vt. Secession Movement Ignores Conspiracy Kooks, Liberalism

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In April, NewsBusters contributor Dan Gainor criticized how the Washington Post puffed up a liberal secessionist movement in the state of Vermont. You know, the state that now has two very liberal independent senators, socialist professor Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy (D), and previously gave the nation RINO-turned-independent Jim Jeffords. [UPDATE: See "Little Green Footballs" for more on just how liberal the secessionist movement's leaders are]

Well, now the Associated Press is running with the story, and outlets like CBSNews.com are peddling the piece to readers. In CBS's case this morning, on the Web site's front page (see screencap at right).

Nowhere in the story does the AP describe the key players behind the secession movement as liberal or even as "progressive," (not to mention conspiracy nutjobs-- see bottom of post) nor is any pundit brought in to chalk up their rumblings about secession as hysteria driven by Bush Derangement Syndrome.

What's more, the AP doesn't address the unconstitutionality of secession until late in the article and even then in a misleading fashion:

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"It doesn't make economic sense, it doesn't make political sense, it doesn't make historical sense. Other than that, it's a good idea," said Paul Gillies, a lawyer and Vermont historian.

While neither the Vermont Constitution nor the U.S. Constitution forbids secession per se, few think it's viable.

"I always thought the Civil War settled that," said Russell Wheeler, a constitutional law expert at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C.

"If Vermont had a powerful enough army and said, `We're leaving the union,' and the national government said, `No, you're not,' and they fought a war over it and Vermont won, then you could say Vermont proved the point. But that's not going to happen," he said.

While nothing in the Constitution expressly forbids secession, the Supreme Court ruled in Texas v. White (1869) that unilateral secession is unconstitutional, but hinted that an accord between Congress and a particular state might allow for peaceful secession:

The Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union, composed of indestructible States. [74 U.S. 700, 726] When, therefore, Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. All the obligations of perpetual union, and all the guaranties of republican government in the Union, attached at once to the State. The act which consummated her admission into the Union was something more than a compact; it was the incorporation of a new member into the political body. And it was final. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration, or revocation, except through revolution, or through consent of the States.

The conservative temptation to rid the body politic of a Marxist senator and former Gov. Howard Dean aside, it's highly doubtful that any Congress and president would assent to a state exiting the Union.

That only leaves revolution and I highly doubt a bunch of nudists will last long against the U.S. armed forces.

***Kirkpatrick Sale, mentioned in the AP article, wrote the following in September 2005 as a defense of Vermont secessionism***

What is most striking about the various conspiracy theories that have emerged to explain 9/11 is that so many of them seem plausible. It is hard not to feel that the Bush government could well have been not merely incompetent but actually to some extent complicit—actively or passively—in the hijackings and crashes. There are a great many holes in the official version of things, as is well documented elsewhere in this issue.

—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters


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If they're threatening secess

If they're threatening secession, then just cut off any and all federal money to the state. If they want to be sovereign, then let them finance theirselves. Isn't Vermont one of the states with the worst economies in the nation?

Mother nature is a bitch - Ninth Corollary of Murphy's Law

Yea that's what I was thinkin

Yea that's what I was thinking, take away all Federal money's and add tariffs to all of their good's. After all of the businesses leave and their economy dies we should contemplate for a few years whether or not we should allow them to reunite, then impose comprehensive immigration on all of their citizens.

Vermont wants to secede?  O

Vermont wants to secede?

  Oh boy, here's some guys that might want to settle an old score with them.

Proposed name: The United Sta

Proposed name: The United Little State of Old Hippies and Way Liberal Ex- New Yorkers.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Full Circle Timeline:Vermont

Full Circle Timeline:

Vermont secedes from U.S.

Businesses and citizens flee

President of the Independent Nation of Vermont orders wall built around Vermont

President of Vermont orders army to guard borders

No one volunteers for army since citizens are made up of aging hippies, hollywood types, poets, painters, and STD infected earth mothers

Boy scout troop from New Hampshire invades Vermont

Vermont surrenders, becomes a state again.

I wonder how the old-timers f

I wonder how the old-timers felt as they watched their state being taken over by the invaders.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Let 'em go.  It just means t

Let 'em go.  It just means that the Dems lose the Senate.

I'm not so sure. If Vermon

I'm not so sure. If Vermont gets to secede, some of the southern states might want a mulligan.

Nah - once they see how the r

Nah - once they see how the rest of those damn yankees think, they'll supply the buses, making sure that those who want to get there - DO!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Let 'em go but only if they

Let 'em go but only if they take california with them.

The man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an argument.

And Rhode Island and Maryland

And Rhode Island and Maryland and New York City and Chicago and Seattle and Detroit and Cleveland and Madison........

Agree! - and the smart thinki

Agree! - and the smart thinking states will vote to let them - with all their demolib payouts, all the losers from all the other states will flock to cross the border into VT. They would also lose their future SS payments, (suppose those collecting would be considered ex-pats), Medicaid, care, transportation, etc., funds, meaning less stress on the rest of us. Those leaving other states to gambol in the new freedoms of the Free State of Wackeyness, would leave their present handouts and trade them for whatever maple syryp they could get. And those presently paying taxes would migrate out and help with the taxes that the rest of us don't want to pay. Run VT, Run! From the Green to the Yellow Mountain Boys! 

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

That only leaves revolution a

That only leaves revolution and I highly doubt a bunch of nudists will last long against the U.S. armed forces.

Oh now don't be so sure, Ken.  If we are to believe what's going on in Iraq, apparently a bunch of towel-head, camel jockeys with garage door opener remotes can destroy a superpower, those nudists would certainly give the marines a run for their money.

Why don't these folks just

Why don't these folks just pack up the truck and move North a couple hundred miles? It would seem to be easier to join a leftist paradise already in progress than to create your own, and wouldn't require the assent of Congress.

But does Canada have an immigration quota on wankers?

Something about this intrigue

Something about this intrigues me.

I would love to get caught sneaking into Vermont as an illegal then declare I need sanctuary. Once they come to my rescue I would then take advantage of every free program they can afford. Next I would sneak in lot's of family and get them on the public dole. It would only take a few short years for the state to go broke, and at that point I will lead a coup and become the King of Vermont.

This whole idea has promise.

The liberal MSM has become an enemy of the USA.

I saw this Kook on Fox this a

I saw this Kook on Fox this afternoon.  Critics of the movement point to economic reasons it would fail.  His response to this was compared to other countries of the world the same size and populations being the same or less, 2 of them had economies ranked in the top 10.

I believe he is talking about Qatar and Kuwait. 

Is there a major oil field in VT or they going to make all their money by uniting all the Maple Syrup producing nations and create a embargo on it to get more money?

Someone help me on this one.

 

Oh God!!!!  My pancakes, my

Oh God!!!!  My pancakes, my pancakes!!!! 

Small children crying because

Small children crying because their breakfast is ruined.

Rationing lines in the Cereal aisle. 

Alternating days you can go get your 1 bottle of Maple for the week.

Anarchy will rule the streets of America.

 

Yeah, I guess those Green Mou

Yeah, I guess those Green Mountain (dare I call them) boys, have us by the nads.  Way to go fellas, syrup rationing is here to stay I guess.

Will we let the asshats rule?

Will we let the asshats rule?

Mrs. Clinton, where are you to help us out of the quagmire?

Mrs. Clinton?  Mrs. Clinton?  Hillary?