The media was fascinated with the story of the Americans in Michael Moore's "Sicko," who left the US for medical treatment in Cuba, a country with socialized medicine, and it was used to highlight the failings of the US health care system. When the exact opposite occurred, and an American fled Italy's socialized medicine for medical treatment in the privatized care of the US, the media decded that angle was no longer significant.
In the coverage of Andrew Speaker’s TB quarantine, very little was mentioned about why he was so determined to return to the US that he ignored the CDC’s command to remain in Italy to treat his life-threatening illness, which is the most serious form of TB and is resistant to most drugs.
Speaker was so adamant about getting out of Italy and returning to the US health care system because Italy's was inadequate for his needs. The AP recounted the Diane Sawyer interview on ABC where Andrew Speaker said the doctors at a Denver research hospital said the US was his only hope (emphasis mine throughout):
"Before I left, I knew that it was made clear to me, that in order to fight this, I had one shot, and tha was going to be in Denver," he said. If doctors in Europe tried to treat him and it went wrong, he said, "it's very real that I could have died there."
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Speaker further explained to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution why he believed his life was in danger:
The man said he and his private doctor — with the agreement of government health officials — made plans for him to undergo cutting-edge treatment with specialists at National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver after his honeymoon.
The man said he's been told the course of treatment could take 18 months — and that the only place that can do it is the Denver hospital.
According to the AJC, a CDC staff member told Speaker that he wasn’t allowed to fly home on a commercial jet and there “wasn’t funding in the budget” to fly him home on a CDC jet. Instead, they said that “he'd need to turn himself into Italian health authorities the next morning and agree to go into isolation and treatment in that country for an indefinite period of time."
The article hit the real reason that he ducked the CDC’s orders to stay in Italy:
The man said he wants people to understand he sneaked back into the United States because he feared for his life. An unsuccessful treatment in Italy would have doomed him, he said, because he said thesy lacked the expertise.
To help understand why Speaker took the risk, read this first-hand account of Italy’s socialized health-care system. Like people fleeing a burning house, the trend in many countries with socialized medicine, particularly across Europe, is to move away from state-run health care toward some amount of privatization. Disregarding the warnings of professionals, the media are running toward that burning house of socialized medicine.
The media ignored the reasoning behind why Speaker acted in what they presented as recklessly risking the spread of a deadly disease. Surely, it would be preferable to undergo free, or at the very least, cheap treatment in a country with what the World Health Organization calls the second best health care system in the world, right behind France, than it would to be to chance being treated in number 37—the US (which ranks below Saudi Arabia, Colombia, Morocco, Dominica and Costa Rica—all WHO examples of better health care). Instead he risked arrest to find his way to America, the home of what the media characterize as a capitalist rip-off.
Too bad the media wouldn’t investigate the claimed failings of Italy’s socialized medicine as they did the claimed failings of America’s privatized medicine.
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Great post, Lynn. Glen Bec
June 4, 2007 - 06:54 ET by dahliatraversGreat post, Lynn. Glenn Beck interviewed the guy and he never cited that as a reason for so urgently wanting to get back to the US, presumably because he would then have to admit that he knowingly exposed scores of people to a virulent strain of TB.
He also claimed that TB was not a big deal where he was from (Russia) which is why he did not treat it as a big deal. Now that I think back, his story didn't make sense. If it wasn't a big deal, why did he fly into Canada and drive into the US? Why didn't he just fly straight into the US? Obviously, it was to foil the authorities he knew were looking for him. And now we know why he went to all this effort - he was trying to get back to what he knew was the best medical care.
(Side note: in my opinion, if anyone on his flights gets sick or dies, this man should be criminally charged. He deliberately exposed these people to a life threatening disease for his own selfish reasons. He knew he had TB before he left the US; he should have stayed home to await the results of the strain test, not left for Europe. Weddings can be postponed; diseases and their treatments cannot.)
It's likely, especially due
June 4, 2007 - 07:14 ET by sarcasmoIt's likely, especially due to his circumstances of both being a lawyer and having taken TB-advice from an expert in the family before deliberately evading surveilance, that he's going to get sued by lots of people for something like "negligent infliction of emotional distress" even if -- as seems pretty likely at this point -- nobody from any of his flights gets that particular form of TB.
JMR
Thank you dahalia. I'm not
June 4, 2007 - 09:25 ET by Lynn DavidsonThank you dahalia. I'm not sure if you've heard more about the case, but Speaker says he has audio tape of someone from the CDC telling him that they would simply prefer he didn't fly, and the CDC is noticeably silent. They haven't challenged Speaker to produce the tape, which tells me that there might be truth to Speakers claims.
Speaker's father asked if the CDC really meant he shouldn't fly, or if they were just engaging in CYA, and the person from the CDC admitted they were just covering themselves. That is essentially telling him there isn't much of a chance of spreading the disease and to go ahead.
He also says the CDC knew before he left that he had the drug-resistant version, but they didn't tell him to take any extra precautions--even with his wife, who he was kissing up until his quarantine. So, if the CDC felt that it wasn't necessary to take precautions with his family and friends, including the wife he was sleeping beside every night, why would he worry about people who were only briefly near him?
I don't thiink this guy endangered anyone, and the CDC has admitted that the people he was in contact with are in no danger. This is a story that is overblown by the media. I bought into it at first, and then started asking myself things like--why wouldn't a CDC doctor who works with TB tell his future son-in-law to wear a mask around his daughter to keep her healthy and safe? The CDC also very carefully did not deny Speaker's version of the warning that they would rather he not fly and they were just CYAing. In an interview, a CDC rep said that he didn't know what was said, but he knew what he told them to say.
The initial story of a reckless bio-terrorist just isn't accurate, IMO.
Mor info here and here
Well, something doesn't jibe
June 4, 2007 - 09:36 ET by dscottWell, something doesn't jibe here, was this guy contagious or not??? Is TB contagious or not? Are there phases of the TB infection in a person where they are not contagious like in leprosy? Someone is not telling the whole story here and that means someone is lying to cover themselves. So which is it? Did the CDC over react or did this guy blow off the risk to others?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
One can be infected with tube
June 4, 2007 - 13:34 ET by stratmanOne can be infected with tuberculosis but have a very small bacterial load in secretions and therefore have a small risk of transmitting the disease to others. If I understand the media reports correctly, this attorney was told before going to Europe that he was at low-infectivity stage and therefore able to travel reasonably. It was known he had DR-TB (Drug Resistant TB) at that time which is usually amenable to 2nd line medication cocktails. It is unclear yet who said what about flying and his risk of infecting others. Surely his father in law, a TB scientist would give some words of wisdom to his daughter and new son in law, though daddy in law isn't saying too much as he's probably been told by the other daddy, also an attorney attorney, to keep his trap shut to the media.
Now the newlyweds take off for Europe and while in Rome the infected attorney is called by the CDC and told he has EDR-TB (Extremely Drug Resistant TB), which is resistant to one or all of the 2nd line meds and has a historical survival rate of 30%. He is told in no uncertain terms to not fly and to go to the US Embassy or to the Italian medical authorities for assistance. Now scared by the worse diagnosis, the infected attorny hatches a plan to go against official US Government policy and medical orders, jumps on 2 flights to Canada and then rents a car to sneak into the US.
There is no doubt this attorney knew his condition, knew the gravity as it related to US policy, knew he could be identified via his passport so he utilized foreign air carriers and/or foreign destinations for travel to circumvent interacting with US agents as much as possible, and he knew that there was a possibility of infecting others becuase the CDC had told him NOT TO FLY COMMERCIALLY and SEEK HELP IMMEDIATELY.
This attorney is a criminal regardless of whether others become infected or not. His wanton disregard for direct US Government orders/policy to seek help in Rome, his wanton disregard for the public's safety and his direct circumvention of US border policy (he knowingly crossed the US border carrying a harmful/deadly disease) are enough to brand him a criminal. I also do not believe his story about the US government not offering assistance. As I recall, a CDC jet was readied for flight to Rome to pick him up. This attorney/criminal got scared, rabbited and endangered potentially hundreds of lives.
And yes, he should be wearing a mask around other people. This is yet another example of his selfish and careless behaviour. And then there is the topic of swapping spit with his wife on their honeymoon. Does this man have no compassion or respect for his wife?
June 4, 2007 - 17:28 ET by stratman
"An officer and a Duck&q
June 4, 2007 - 07:06 ET by Senior Chief"An officer and a Duck", coming soon at theaters in your area...
I apologize for my early co
June 4, 2007 - 09:12 ET by Senior ChiefI apologize for my early comment- thinking lefty Dianne Sawyer was still behind the duck mask...Busted and regretted!
I'm curious why Speaker isn't
June 4, 2007 - 09:46 ET by Hero SquadI'm curious why Speaker isn't wearing a mask? Wouldn't it knock down some potentially dangerous germs if his mouth was also covered?
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
If I were Starbucks, I'd st
June 4, 2007 - 07:06 ET by sarcasmoIf I were Starbucks, I'd start trying to sell those stupid surgical masks in every airport, yesterday, at their usual 100%+ markup. Actually, that's been a good idea for a few years, IMO. If I were any airline but especially Southwest or JetBlue, I'd make it a marketing point to both clean cabin air better than the others and have a higher level of O2 in cabins (especially in first class) than other airlines. These people should be paying for my advice, and I give it away for free right here...
JMR
Surgical Masks
June 4, 2007 - 08:03 ET by allanfThe masks are a fixture on flights to Asia. If you want to find a collection of hacking and wheezing people, just go on an airplane. Sometimes I think people say "I have the flu today, why don't I take a flight".
Actually the wheezers are probably more contagious than Speaker, who was asymptomatic at the time, and probably safe to fly. CDC should have arranged a medical evacuation.
I have no financial interes
June 4, 2007 - 08:14 ET by sarcasmoI have no financial interest in the company, and this is entirely anecdotal, but I take that expensive fizzy "Airborne" stuff before every flight, and I swear it's saved me from colds.
This could easily be the placebo effect, etc., but it works for me, so I'm busy making that ex-teacher veddy-rich whenever life forces me to fly.
JMR
PS Bonus Elvis-esque Chavez-toon for Jack.
All the pieces make a big difference
June 4, 2007 - 08:08 ET by c5thenKnowing all the pieces of the story makes a big difference in the opinion formed. The fact that the Media have left out is main reason for sneaking back into the US and puting hundreds if not thousands of people at risk shows that they must screen every story to make sure that their ideology is not contradicted in some of the facts. If it is, they simply leave out that part of the story.
We have now very recent examples of people who go to great lenghts to come to the US to be treated for illness rather than submit to standard socialized medicine in other countries. (Furnes' father and now the TB guy).
I would love to hear someone talk about the real reason why healthcare costs so much in the US - The health insurance industry. they have made the system more and more inefficient and driven up the costs because of mandating unnecessary tests and proceedures, and the volumes of paper work and forms that must be submitted.
A few years ago I injured my knee. My primary doctor sent me to an Orthodedic specialist. He examined me in his office and said that I had damaged a ligament, but he wasn't sure how extensive. He said I needed to go get an X-ray. I asked him why an X-ray, I thought that they really didn't show any soft tissue. He smiled and said I was absolutely correct, but my insurance company wouldn't allow him to send me directly for an MRI because an X-ray was "cheaper" and it wasn't until he and the radiologist said that they couldn't see anything in the X-ray that they would approve the MRI. So...the insurance company spent a few hundred $$ on an X-ray and a radiologists time in order to spend almost a thousand $ on an MRI to see what was really going on.
Multiply that scenario by 100 million...
The day that "politician" became a career choice is the day we started losing the Republic
And our "choice"
June 4, 2007 - 08:23 ET by sarcasmoAnd our "choice" seems to be between more taxpayer subsidies for these same stupid companies (I'll not bore you with my very similar story of stupid waste for the sake of waste) or direct 100% socialist government control.
JMR
But do we know all the pieces
June 4, 2007 - 09:13 ET by dscottBut do we know all the pieces? Why did he travel in public risking the health of those around him? Even a 5th grader knows TB is very contagious and dangerous if left untreated. This "lawyer" knew he was infected with a form of TB that was resistant to normal treatment, so he knew he was risking the health of others with a form of disease that had no known cure. So what was so important that he had to fly abroad? Hmmm, he had wedding plans. That's the answer. His wedding plans were more important than any health issue. And he and his fiance' couldn't change plans to get married in a bubble????
Lynn, I will in any event agree about how you characterized Socialized medicine, however, it seems to me that someone so narcissistic to risk the health of others will use any excuse to justify their narcissism. Remember after all, we are dealing with a "lawyer" a person who lies, misrepresents and twists facts for a living.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius
This isn't his characterizati
June 4, 2007 - 15:19 ET by Lynn DavidsonThis isn't his characterization of his chances. That is what the Denver research hospital said. He had one shot to be treated. There is one hospital in the world who could treat this illness. He had made arrangements with them before leaving for his wedding (if he didn't know that he had the drug-resistant TB, why would he make plans with a hospital to be treated for it).
The CDC said they would not let him fly commercially, they would not arrange for other transportation and sent the Italian government to pick him up and beging treatment (if the CDC was making arrangements to have a jet pick hiim up, why would they have the Italians begin treating him).
If he stayed in Italy as the CDC wanted, he would have died. Should he have worked harder to find another less public way home? Yes. Should he have worn a mask and been more cautious? Yes. However, judging from the info I have, he is not the bio-terrorist that everyone says endangered all of North America. This guy didn't infect his wife or her small child after months of close contact. Why would he infect people sitting a few seats over on an airplane for 6 hours?
This guy is being painted as the next Typhoid Mary who didn't care about infecting people and disregarded medical instruction. That just wasn't the case.
It is premature of you to ta
June 4, 2007 - 17:31 ET by stratmanIt is premature of you to take his story as the real story without hearing all the sides. This guy lies for a living. His father lies for a living. His entire upbringing is based on the money "earned" by lying. What makes you think he's compulsively telling the truth now? His big baby blues? He purposefully took off his mask to be photographed to show you his sweet and innocent baby face, one that could never tell an untruth. Right? Just another manipulation like so many others he performed recently.
In fact he was and is infectious though the risk was slight according to the information presented so far. If there was no risk there would be no testing of people he wantonly exposed on the flights. That's a fact.
One HUGE problem are the HIPAA Guidelines concerning patient privacy. The criminal/attorney's medical privacy do not allow his local physicians, nor the state and federal physicians and government employees to discuss much concerning this case other than the illness and potential risks for public health issues at this pont in time. I was shocked to hear the guys name in the media as I would have thought HIPAA rules would have trumped all else, EXCEPT he became a criminal and endangered the public health. At that point, he was fair game for reporting some details. When officials can speak more on the record, I'll bet we'll hear some contradictions to the criminal/attorney's own story.
It is a lie that the US Governement and the CDC were going to let this guy blow in the wind. According to previous media reports, a CDC jet was going to pick him up in Rome but he bugged out before it got off the ground.
It is also a lie that the criminal/attorny would die or fail treatment while in Rome. Italy certainly has the capability of dispensing the proper medicines in the proper sequences, especially within the context of CDC and international treatment guidelines. It ain't rocket science to pump drugs into a body. The treatment could have been started in Rome and he could have been transported back to the USA in short order.
The criminal/attorney got scared and did the most selfish and reckless thing possible, given the CDC's instructions, and then rationalized it on national TV with Diane Whoreyer. His mea culpa was as transparently ridiculous and self-serving as a school kid's excuse of "my dog ate my homework".
Whether he actually infects someone or not does not negate his reckless, narcisistic criminal behaviour. I would find it hard to believe he has not violated one or more federal laws. I am sure he has done harm enough for civil suits to be initiated. Fear is not a justification for his actions. An attorney does know that criminal behaviour can occur despite good intentions. I'll bet dollars to doughnuts we will learn that his scientist father, let alone the CDC, told him the potential consequences of EDR-TB. The criminal/attorney knew what was going on - I believe that's called "with malice and forethought".
This guy has no excuse for his actions.
Socialized Medicine
June 4, 2007 - 10:26 ET by pbanks7mandating unnecessary tests and proceedures, and the volumes of paper work and forms that must be submitted.
This is called covering your butt. The "lawsuit industry" makes it so. What are they going to do if the libs get their wish and attain socialized medicine? You can't sue the gummint. All those trial lawyers will have to find someone else to sue.
Ignorance is bliss. It's easier to repeat a mindless slogan than to do some actual research.
It's a good thing Speaker di
June 4, 2007 - 09:49 ET by Hero SquadIt's a good thing Speaker didn't see "Sicko" before heading back to the U.S. He might have diverted his travel plans and headed to Cuba instead, for the superior treatment and free health care they offer to all for everything.
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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello
Given their initial reactio
June 4, 2007 - 10:35 ET by sarcasmoGiven their initial reaction to AIDS (question for the lefties here, why was Castro instantly-forgiven for doing that to mostly-homosexual people? Don't principles matter when it comes to AIDS and politics?) I think he might experience a longer stay than anticipated!
JMR
Excellent point, Sarc. One wo
June 4, 2007 - 15:34 ET by Lynn DavidsonExcellent point, Sarc. One would think those issues would matter...