Valerie Plame Wilson claims her life was ruined, her career ended, and national security possibly compromised because her CIA employ was made public, but of course she now wants to cash in with a memoir.
The CIA, for good reason, wants to make sure nothing that compromises national security gets published, and now Plame is literally making a federal case out of that, suing over CIA objections that her dates of employ are and should remain classified.
Another layer of hypocrisy at its finest, but the icing on the cake is the recent allegation that Plame perjured herself in congressional testimony.
Fortunately for her, Time's Jay Carney didn't notice in this oh-shucks post to "Swampland" today.:
I was wondering what Valerie Plame was doing in New York yesterday when I saw her across the lobby of my hotel. Turns out she was here to file suit in federal court against the CIA, which has blocked the publication of her memoir. It's always amazing how Washington scandals metastasize.
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Hypocrisy is not found in a
June 1, 2007 - 10:03 ET by Senior ChiefHypocrisy is not found in a leftoid-democrack dictionary...There is no moral value to it.
Af if the Wilsons don't get a
June 1, 2007 - 10:07 ET by Senior ChiefAf if the Wilsons don't get any penny from the government, I'm wondering if Hugh Hefner offered...yea next to Bill's Lewinsky.
Why is this surprising? It wa
June 1, 2007 - 10:45 ET by BeowulfWhy is this surprising? It was a non-issue from jump-street. The only thing Scooter was found "guilty" of was not answering questions. I still don't see how he could have "interfered" with an investigation of a non-crime, i.e. if someone didn't have an alibi for a robbery that was never committed, how could that person be convicted of anything?.
The Closed Mind Erects Strong Barriers
Oh of course she is going to
June 1, 2007 - 10:54 ET by bigtimerOh of course she is going to sue...she has to get the book out or she isn't going to have the big Hollywood movie made...of course from her/Joe's point of view that is...which is outrageously filled with lies...which she has been caught lying....again IMO.
Now she wants to have in print some info that may hurt this country even more if possible...and this treasonous blond in my opinion is crying a river...oh please.
Stick a fork in it Valerie, you are so done...along with your partner in crime.
You two-slicksters get a job and earn your own money instead of trying to bilk more people with your lying eyes...and lies.
Scooter Libby getting time, while Burglar gets a slap on the hand for stealing national security documents for the Clinton's from the Archives...what is wrong with this picture?
Another disgraceful memoir,
June 1, 2007 - 12:15 ET by BacchusAnother disgraceful memoir, similar to "If I Did It" no doubt. It should make her $hundreds.
Where are all her pals, who
June 2, 2007 - 08:50 ET by MilesDWhere are all her pals, who told her to go "get" the Admistration, and she would be a heroine, and everybody would be fawning over her?
Seems they walked away, left her standing there holding the bag
Very little honor among thieves ...
Plame lied. Wilson lied, Fitzgerald lied, the msm lied
June 1, 2007 - 10:56 ET by SportPoliticsPlame lied, and also claimed she didn't know what her status was in front of Waxman's committtee. Joe lied about what he found out on his wife suggested and supported trip. The French lied about their connections to the Niger documents and Joe Wilson and yellowcake mines.
Fitzgerald lied as he shook and sweated in his indictment press announcement concerning Libby "being the first" to reveal the Plane name outside government. The msm lied about it all.
Bush didn't lie. But that doesn't matter. LOL
I feel sorry for other nations, that must have one heckuva time trying to untangle the gigantic pile of spaghetti with dozens of players in every different angle in this mess and certainly many others. Even after all this crap is spewed about and misreported and turned into a thousand variations of untruth that even motivates our judicial branch, it must be difficult for any other nation to make heads or tails of all the players and even the current situations, so it may be ironically our greatest strength.
When the msm posted pictures of real covert agents on the ground in the Haiti/Dominican R area, that was all but great for the msm and Fitzgerald. Bush was blamed for kidnapping Aristide by the democrats, and life went on. LOL
It's a kookball fest. Bush is nearly removed from office for picking up Al Qaeda on the battlefield with weapons in hand, that's our national security stance. LOL Fight to shutdown Gitmo, now that foreign governments cooperative prisons have been exposed and closed.
I guess the enemy doesn't need to do any post battle fighting, they just sit back and try to untangle the massive spaghetti western.
...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
June 1, 2007 - 11:14 ET by PeskyDane...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... oh is she still here?
Whatever supposed damage (if
June 1, 2007 - 11:27 ET by mattmWhatever supposed damage (if any) was done to our national security by her identity becoming known, it has been far, far exceeded by the damage her and her husband's politically motivated false accusations have done.
There must be something for which these two cut rate versions of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg can be indicted.
There is a whole hell of a lot of Bush / Cheney guilt
June 1, 2007 - 11:38 ET by American Rhetoric Reviewof criminal behavior and corruption that would have to be dealt with before we could even come close to getting to them
Bush /Cheney criminal behav
June 1, 2007 - 11:50 ET by MightyMouthBush /Cheney criminal behavior? Like what?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
2nd time
June 1, 2007 - 12:00 ET by LionKingThis is at least second time this troll has made a post like this without addressing the vague accusations that are questioned.
Lion..this is a second rate,
June 1, 2007 - 12:06 ET by bassndudeLion..this is a second rate, extreme left wing newbe. I would say, he is more than likely gay, and anti religion, anti God and anti Church. Unless you speak of the chruch of satan or the religion of global warming. In other word, a self important, self involved, deluded indivudal.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
If you speak of criminal beha
June 1, 2007 - 11:57 ET by bassndudeIf you speak of criminal behavior, rampant corruption and professional liers and traitors, you must be speaking of the Clinton/Gore/Reid/Pelosi group.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
David Boies on the Libby trial
June 1, 2007 - 12:47 ET by Gary HallDavid Boies on the Libby trial.
An aside to Ken's well made point.
For those who missed this one (my bold):
David Boies (Gore's counsel in Bush v. Gore) on H_C on Fox – March 5th, 2007
Those last two sentences of Boies are striking. then he continnued
...so, as I see it, the trial
June 1, 2007 - 12:56 ET by mattm...so, as I see it, the trial itself is the crime... (which is what I always thought)
mattm
June 1, 2007 - 13:39 ET by Gary HallExactly. If Libby had been on VP Gore's staff, one can assume that the coverage, if any, would have only been focused on the people going after Libby. Oh, we've been there - and not to long ago. (;~>
bigtimer
June 1, 2007 - 20:06 ET by shawn228Scooter Libby getting time, while Burglar gets a slap on the hand for
stealing national security documents for the Clinton's from the
Archives...what is wrong with this picture?
So your saying Scooter Libby will do time? You don't think President Bush will do the right thing and parden him if he is not free during appeals? June 5th is right around the corner.
If Bush pardons Libby, it wil
June 1, 2007 - 20:15 ET by NL207If Bush pardons Libby, it will not be until after the 2008 elections.
NL207 , You never know
June 1, 2007 - 20:31 ET by shawn228NL207 ,
You never know, he might have the stones to do it. He has been pretty stubborn on the Alberto Gonzales thing and stuck by him even with Republican pressure to fire him.
I hope he has at least some p
June 1, 2007 - 20:41 ET by NL207I hope he has at least some political savy. If he pardons Libby now or at any time before the election, that is all we will hear about from the MSM leading up to the election.
Very True
June 1, 2007 - 20:47 ET by shawn228I agree NL207, but he has already p*ssed off conservatives with his immigration bill. The 28% approval rating that he has are a representation of people from sites like this one and ones similar. He will be under tremendous pressure from conservatives to pardon him. If he does not parden Scooter Libby his approval ratings might drop under 20%..
Shawn, I am glad you are en
June 1, 2007 - 20:59 ET by NL207Shawn, I am glad you are enough of a realist to recognize that most conservatives are unhappy with Bush positions like this and are willing to take action against him over them. Bush is not a true conservative. This is something most of the left wing loonies here just don't get.
Because you get this, I have an added prize for you. In 10 years you will be a conservative too. That should give you something to look forward to!
In 10 yearsWe're holding you
June 1, 2007 - 21:28 ET by dahliatraversIn 10 years
We're holding you to that, NL207. You're not going to get an additional 16+ years, like a certain NASA scientist, to get it right.
If its any consolation, I am
June 1, 2007 - 21:30 ET by NL207If its any consolation, I am NOT a NASA scientist. The stuff I build does not blow up on launch with great loss of life, break up on re-entry with great loss of life, or inadvertently crash into planetary bodies with loss of mission and vehicle.
What amazes me is that with this track record of catastrophic failure, liberals still believe these jackasses.
Realist
June 1, 2007 - 22:14 ET by shawn228I am a realist NL, Out of no respect to you and people of this site, I have seen more Bush bashing on this site in the past weeks, than I have seen the whole 6 months since I have joined this site combined.
It seems this immigration bill, along with Bush not sticking up to the Dems has been taking its toll.
Any time someone said bad things about the President, they were considered a Troll. Yes there are Trolls on this site and I have exhibitted Trollish behavior in the past myself. There are some that just want to offer their opinion. Leon for example, I have never seen him flame anybody, but when he critiqued the President he would get flamed ten fold. Its better now though, people are debating him instead of flaming.
I try to look at things from all points of view NL. Who knows maybe I will become conservative 10 years from now:)
Hey Shawn,How are are you doi
June 1, 2007 - 22:48 ET by BlondeHey Shawn,
How are are you doing?
I find your growth here, on this site as a poster, to be extremely interesting.
You arrived here as a DKOS brat....and you've matured (good job, BTW!) to be able to have conversations with people, and even seriously debate points which you feel to be important.
So I'd ask you, and of course, you're under no obligation to answer, but I'd find your response to be interesting....
Since interacting with us here (the conservatives)....how have you changed your thinking? And I don't mean how you've changed your debating style....how have your conversations here, and the arguments you've posed, and responded to, changed the way you perceive the debate? You obviously started here as a total leftie....but I've seen you make and concede points. And I think I've seen your view change a bit too....mature, if you will (sorry...I meant that as a compliment).
And if you answer this question honestly, here, on an open forum....I'll try to make sure that you don't get flamed for it. It's a question I'd really like to see you answer, Shawn.
Thanks.
You had me till this line..
June 1, 2007 - 22:57 ET by The Wicked ConservativeYou had me till this line...Leon for example, I have never seen him flame anybody... You're not paying attention. His posts stand alone as little turds that he drops on our heads from his position of wisdom. His arguments are seldom meaningful and are just dropped in the middle of a conversation to stir people up. Disagreement is great but Leon and Waka are childish pot stirrers and the site would be better of without them. If you're a leftie and you have a cogent argument, then bring it, I haven't stumbled into my opinion and I'll argue for it.
Agree with your assessment…
June 1, 2007 - 23:57 ET by maggieqpublicAgree with your assessment, NL…. the MSM would obsess over a pardon. But the President should pardon Scooter Libby now. It is the right thing to do (at least that’s my opinion).
Hi Blondie,That is the
June 2, 2007 - 00:03 ET by shawn228Hi Blondie,
That is the first time I have called
you that. I hope it is okay since you said only your "friends" are
allowed to refer to you by that name.:)
Okay here goes, I was a
real Bush hater. I was not a member of this site but read many post and
they made me very upset. I voted Democrat in November and was elated
they took the house and the senate. A few days after the Dems took
control of the house I decided to join this site and gloat a little. I
also wanted to keep it civil and express my views at the same time. I
think it was a thread about CBS news. I mentioned about how "this is
when Katie was just starting" Katie was going to improve and get better
over time "well you guys sure proved me wrong huh? lol" I got flamed
from a few people but no big deal. Then when the subject moved toward
WMD the discussion got much more heated. Dave R was the first one to
attack me, then you joined in, and then the last straw was
SportsPolitics. I remember being really angry and thought, well I'm
going to kicked off anyway and played the troll. I was amazed when Noel
"did not know he was a moderator at the time" told me that this site
welcomed different points of view and welcomed me to site.
I figured since everybody called me a troll, then what did I have to lose and played the part.
I
have told you this many times but one more will not hurt I have always
been pro-choice without a shadow of doubt my whole life.The turning
point for me was someone on this board challenged me to look at
pictures of abortions. They were very frightening and really got me to
think. I thought about a fetus as a fetus and not a baby. I had no idea
how formed the thing growing in th womb was. I am really on the fence
now and i'm actually glad the SCOTUS upheld the ban on partial birth
abortion. Never thought I would ever thunk that. You were very mean
to trolls, but you also seemed like you had a open mind and I felt bad
about some of my remarks to you on a thread and I wanted to make peace.
I'm glad I did.
So, If I could change my mind about something like that, I am open to hearing conservatives opinions on other matters as well.
Now
over six months since the Dems took control of congress, they are
proving to me a huge disapointment. Harry Reid saying the war is lost,
Nancy Pelosi trying to put a time table full or pork in the Iraq
funding bill almost got regretting my vote.
That is not to say, I still do not lean to the left because I still do, I
think I am now disgusted with both parties as oppossed to just one. The
Bush adminstion still strikes me as one of the most secretive in
history. The missing emails, Cheney wanting to keep his meetings
secret, the attorney firing messup. The hypocricy with the deputy
secretary of state and the alleged call girls etc.
There are many
good things about this site and there are bad. Let me start with the
bad. Up until a few weeks ago, people blindly defended Bush on almost
every topic the few Liberals on this site attacked him with. Now since
the Rose colored glasses are gone, it is open season on Bush. The
constant articles about the msm spinning about the gas prices and how
they did not factor in inflation. I don't know about you Blonde but gas
is very expensive right now and it is hurting my wallet. Unless you car
is a Prius, I suspect that is case for most on this site. Would it hurt
for Noel to say, gas is ridiculously expensive right now? Also I would
say I am a reasonably intelligent person "some might not think so" We
are trillions and trillions of dollars in debt but some seem to think
the ecomomy is doing good we don't need to worry about it. I am no
economics major, but if you borrow money you need to pay it back some
time right? I don't know if the world is getting warmer or not but
isn't overfishing, pollution, clear cutting a bad thing?
Now the
good. I have met some good people on this site like you Blonde and
thanks to you, I do not get flamed as often as before. Yes I get many
sarcastic comments, but I can give and well as I get. I don't even get
offending by SportsPolitics anymore, I find him more amusing than
anything.I now understand how hard it is to be the POTUS it cannot be easy having a hostile democratic congress waiting for him to fail. Talking to dead soldiers widows and sons and daughters must really weigh on his concience as well. That about wraps up my long winded post.
Good night Blonde.
shawn - I know you directed your post to Blonde,
June 2, 2007 - 00:14 ET by misterbillshawn - I know you directed your post to Blonde, but I did want to say, if you remember, that I had told you about two weeks ago how you had softened your approach and your arguments into a reasonable debate format. Keep up the good work.
One important thing to me regarding Bush--you may be in the opposite camp on this--but he lost me, particularly with his stance on immigration. I have been around a long time. I can see some of the changes already and he wants to make more changes that favor Mexico. It really turns me off. We have the most unique republic that ever existed . IMHO it will be destroyed unless we get immigration under control
misterbill
June 2, 2007 - 00:32 ET by shawn228I totally agree with you on the immigration thing. How about the people that did it legally and stood in line and went paid all the lawyer fees and paper work. It just shows people "its okay to skip to the front of the line"
PS
Anymore spider bites?
Well, Shawn,I am up way past
June 2, 2007 - 00:35 ET by BlondeWell, Shawn,
I am up way past my bedtime...but I have to reply to you here. So I had to log back on....
First, I must say BRAVO, shawn.
I thank you for your candor and honesty here. Nicely done.
Wow. You are the only "troll" (which you were, when you arrived here) I've seen who has stuck it it out, been given the total troll treatment (and I know I am one of the supreme troll bashers...and I'm sure I kicked your troll a$$ when you first got here), and then you stuck around.
So, I congratulate you on your growth, here. If you're still inclined to believe the liberal line....stay here, we'll cure you of it. I won't flame you for it, again...you've proved to me that you are worthy of a respectful debate.
Shawn, you are a big, big person to admit, publicly, changing your mind on the abortion issue....and I suspect as you hang here longer, you'll come to see the conservative side of most of our arguments.
Finally, Shawn, only a mature person would have responded to an open challenge like I just made to you. With all of the world looking on. I am totally, totally impressed.
Continue hanging here...we'll turn you into a conservative, yet.
Nicely done, Shawn. Keep thinking for yourself. Evaluate what you read here, and compare it to your worldview, and lib talking points. It's amazing what happens when you evaluate things critically.
Finally....you've earned the ability to call me "Blondie"...a name to which I only respond when posted by my friends. Or, if you'd rather, you could just shout out "Oblio"....I'll reply to that one too!
:) "blushes"
June 2, 2007 - 00:38 ET by shawn228:) "blushes"
Well, Shawn,You deserve the
June 2, 2007 - 00:46 ET by BlondeWell, Shawn,
You deserve the applause.
It's very interesting to see someone grow. And you have.
P.S. You forgot to start that post with "Blondie" or "Oblio".
Oblio
June 2, 2007 - 00:52 ET by shawn228Sorry Blonde, us liberals have a ADD you know....lol. Thx so much for the kind words they mean alot . It is far past your bedtime. I am going to sleep right now. Time for you to do the same. Good night..
Valerie, you've betrayed ju
June 2, 2007 - 01:45 ET by MilesDValerie, you've betrayed just about everyone so far, most of all, your former employer, the Government, who took you on and assumed you would just carry out your duties on behalf of the People.
Then you decided you were a superstar, and could tell lies to a grand jury and cash in on your fame.
You ought to go back and look at that oath you took when you were given a Government position. And ask yourself, what made you change your mind about the importance of that
The Plame Irony
June 2, 2007 - 13:14 ET by exLibIsn't it Ironic that Plame insists that everything about her had to do with National Security and that Bush/Cheney/Rove put the US in danger and lives were ruined and secrets were outed.
Yet, when it comes to writing a book about it all, she says No Big Deal. It's not "really" secure.
I think the guys at the CIA are having a big laugh about this because I think they know that Plame was not really "outed" and all that, yet they are using her own words and testimony to keep her from releasing her book.
I bet in the end she ends up signing something admitting to it all so that she can get the book and movie out. I also will guarantee you the MSM buries that story.
Great point. The Bush admin
June 2, 2007 - 21:08 ET by dahliatraversGreat point. The Bush admin isn't allowed to endanger our security by exposing state secrets but she is.