Open Thread Friday

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Joke of the week: A long time ago, Britain and France were at war. During one battle, the French captured an English major. Taking the Major to their headquarters, the French general began to question him.

The French general asked, "Why do you English officers all wear red coats? Don't you know the red material makes you easier targets for us to shoot at?" In his bland English way, the major informed the general that the reason English officers wear red coats is so that if they are shot, the blood won't show and the men they are leading won't panic.

From that day forward, the French army decreed its officers should wear brown pants.

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Off the subject but "open thread".

I listen to Laura Ingraham every day and I love her like a daughter. I agree with just about everything that good lady says. Yet I am concerned about her tone and a lot of other Conservative's tones about the immigration bill and it's controversy.

I agree with most Conservatives and I am strongly against this bill and the "apparent" complicity of The President. Yet there are a few points here.

The 1st is that the language we are using about our President is playing right into the hands of the left. People, including Laura, are adding volumes of editing material to what the President has said. You have to want to believe he was questioning Conservatives patriotism to read that into his remarks.

I've heard people make the case that 60% of the American people are against the content of this bill. Probably, and I am in that group but quit quoting that % when that many believe our President is a failure as well. Remember that we are Conservatives and do not govern by poles.

Thirdly, what would you propose to do about the illegal immigrant situation that would not just make you feel good BUT what would work AND be American?

Bottom line: Lets keep supporting our President and ratchet down the rhetoric. This man has sacrificed his entire Presidency to keep this nation secure. 

Just a little lower tone would help.

CVG I would agree. But, we c

CVG
I would agree. But, we collectively have been screaming for border security for years. Now it is obvious why it has not been done. The more that come in the harder it is to depart!
and on top of it if we dont like it then we are Nazi's?????
I gave $ and worked on his election!! Now I'm a Nazi?

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CVG-- My guess is--

CVG-- My guess is--the complete disappointment I have with my President is shared by the large majority of conservative voters. In an earlier post, I cited that Pres. Bush caved on SS and GW. I feel he did this because, in the case of GW, there were many who accepted Gore's statements as facts and GW did not have the will to fight it. On SS, he did not get enough support and he gave it up. Too bad, it was a great idea. However, we who elected him do not expect those we elect to give up. Had he shown the tenacity with other issues that he shows with Iraq there would be two results.

The first is that those who hate and deride him would be even stronger in their insults and public criricism. The second, is that people like me would feel even stronger that we picked the right man. I do not feel that way about him any longer. He is, IMHO, an advocate of  an open door North America. I am not , and strongly opposed to it. Everything he does lately is in opposition to the feelings of the majority of his one-time supporters. I anxiously await the end of his term.

In the final analysis, he will be remembered as a President who started a war that America lost (even though we are winning), a friend of Mexico (in issues that most  of those who elected him disagree with), and ineffectual in achieving the changes he wanted (even though some of them were very good), and finally, in his lame duck years he will be remembered as a man who got in bed with his political enemies.

Need I say more? 

PS I could say a lot of the same things for McCain who has lost touch with his voter base and with reality in his declining years.

Right on

Right on, MB!

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

"Thirdly, what would you

"Thirdly, what would you propose to do about the illegal immigrant situation that would not just make you feel good BUT what would work AND be American?" Simple: SECURE our borders and enforce the current laws. If we prosecute the employers hiring these illegals, they will stop hiring them and the illegals will go back home where they belong.

"Lets keep supporting our President and ratchet down the rhetoric. This man has sacrificed his entire Presidency to keep this nation secure." I support the President on his Iraq policies, but he has done nothing to secure our southern border. I don't care if he IS Republican; if he is doing something I disagree with, I will say something. 

No RINOs in '08 - Thompson/Hunter would be a good ticket

But NOT Hunter Thompson! (I

Thompson/Hunter would be a good ticket

But NOT Hunter Thompson! (I know, he beamed up already)

I was on another thread that

I was on another thread that ended up in a discussion about President Bush. I commented on my disappointment that he seems to give in to dem demands too much. He seems to think if he is nice enough to them, they will like him and his "uniter, not a divider" line can still be a part of his legacy. It is not just Bush. I have a problem with ANYONE who gives these whack jobs legitimacy. When he ran in 2000, my most important reason for voting for him was that I wanted a republican president nominating for the SCOTUS. After 9-11, national security became number one in my book. SCOTUS became number two. Therefor, I felt he was the best option.

Illegal immigration is way up on my list too, and I can't think of a much bigger con job than global warming. Therefor, in the last two weeks, I have been very angry at his positions on these matters. I don't see any reason to keep these feelings hidden, and I have not been vitriolic whith my comments.

It just seems to me that he needs to worry less about pleasing dems and fight for things like lower tax rates (making last tax cut permanent) and his SS reform. If he had, people here wouldn't be so angry.

2/3rds of adult Muslims

I read that survey or another just like it recently, and what caught my eye were two things:

2/3rds of ADULT muslims in the USA were born in another country.

Muslims vote 5 to 1 for democrats.  

Peggy Noonan has it right.

Peggy Noonan has it right, GWB left us before we could leave him and I have left him BIG TIME!  There's no sense listing the obvious reasons save to say GWB is no conservative and his Mexican thing is treasonous.

Now is the time to restore conservative leadership to the Republican Party with an authentic, effective, dynamic leader.  That as opposed to someone that believes they are owed the job (McCain), is a one trick pony (Giuliani) or plays a conservative onscreen (Thompson).  Remember GRAVATAS.  Lets not put forward a candidate that we may have to apologize for and please lets find one that can speak the King's English!

On public speaking and the "King's English"

What does public speaking have to do with...anything?  Perhaps you are one of those who view having a southern drawl or Texas "twang" as the height of being uncultured, yet see having a northeastern accent as the supreme height of all that is educated?

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Watsa matta wit youse guys. 

Watsa matta wit youse guys. Whenever I hear that I think of gangsters and stupidity.  No offense but them Yakees move too fast fer me and need to slow down a bit.  Whenever I go ot of state I start to affect my backwoods East Texas accent, which if you have never heard it is attrocious.  Yep slow down and give your brain time to think before you engage yer mouth.

I imagine we all have some humorous ideas about a regions speech.

Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark. -- save my gun, shoot a liberal.

"Watsa matta wit youse

"Watsa matta wit youse guys."

*wiping brow*

Whew!! For a second there I thought tumbler was out of his coffin!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

motor mouth, dear

What is your problem ? I see no reason why you'd bring me up. And I have no coffin, yet.

Unsane,Right on. As a Texan m

Unsane,

Right on. As a Texan myself, I found that post a little condescending.

I wish Fred would either sh#t or get off the pot, ( how's that for Texas colloquiallism), as I would like to hear where he stands on issues important to conservatives. I know he talks a good game, but his voting record is pretty thin.

On accents

I HATE hearing everytime I travel out-of-state, or living out of state, "If you are from TX, where's your accent?" 

For the uninitiated, hit Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, or Austin (if you can stomach Austin), and see if you can find a "Texas twang" amongst the population in general. 

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What's up unsane, I got up la

What's up unsane, I got up later than you apparently.

You're right of course about the accent. I've had tourists ask me many times where I am from, and when I say San Antonio, they seem surprised. "Where's youy accent?" is usually the next question. I usually respond with some smartass remark. The "Texas twang" is prevalent in rural areas, but not in the cities. You are right on the mark about that.

Unsane--Ct-- I think--

Unsane--Ct-- I think--(both of you can tell me to butt out)-that CTs point is that GW Bush's lack of command of the English language has been a huge negative for Republican's. I sent two emails over time to Tony Snow to please,, please teach GW how to say nuclear not newkular. It has been a major laughing point for the Dems. To be honest, I cringe every time GW has to make a speech. This I know from life experience, if you mispronounce some words, a large number of people judge your intelligence as low.

For the record, it's not the accent!

Misterbill you have it right, if anything as a New Jersey boy I prefer a southern accent, it sounds more honest to me.  GWB's inability to articulate most anything has been hard on the ears for going on eight years now.  I voted for him twice and I donot regret it considering the alternatives including the Republican primaries.

As disgusted as I am now with his AMNESTY DOWN OUR THROUGHTS POLICY I believe the most important thing to do now is concentrate on a strong Republican standard bearer for 2008 that we can all be proud of.  I donot wish to be in a position as Country Joe MacDonald of the Fish once said "Why are we always having to vote for the lesser of two evils, I mean was George Washington the lesser of two evils?” (Paraphrased from anti-war anti-LBJ concert tour circa 1968)

John McCain is past it for which we should all be grateful.  Giuliani does not have the depth and most of the 3rd tear is not worth commenting on.  Everybody's hero in waiting Fred Thompson is an actor before anything else and he is no Ronald Reagan.  Reagan had genuine substance and a track record of leadership before he ran for the highest office.

It's time to get serious, the Dems top three candidates are so far left of socialists they must be communists.  Just like the war in Iraq failure is not an option, our country is at stake.

ps misterrbill great photos.

On accents, media, speech, and substance (what's that?)

Here's the thing - criticize Bush for many things (not forcing Congress [of either party] to be fiscally responsible, the Miers nomination, etc.), but when one starts to criticize him for his speaking ability, that to me smacks of shallowness at best and of complete snobbery of the most foul sort at worst.  In fact, there IS such a thing as sounding TOO polished, as many Leftists are. 

If the best you can come up with in criticism of - anybody - is "he says 'nuclear' all wrong" (among other speech-related offenses), I have to ask: how long has it been since you graduated high school? 

Also, I ask again: why are Southern accents so terrifying to people, yet when one hears a Northeast accent, that's okay?  I have heard of many occasions where journalists/people in broadcasting from the South have to learn how not to use their accent in order to be accepted in the industry (meaning: get a job ANYWHERE), yet how many times have I seen and heard people on radio and television who can't be bothered to say the 18th letter of the alphabet, because apparently that is acceptable?

To wit: some years ago I was watching Fox News in mixed company, and Dagen McDowell made an appearance n the program they were showing.  The guy next to me began griping about how much she sounded like a "hick" (never mind the freakin' substance behind her commentary).  I rolled my eyes and strained to be nice and diplomatic, and say nothing in this setting.  What an asinine comment!

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Right unsane. But when it com

Right unsane. But when it comes to Northeast accents, all I can say is, anytime ted kennedy speaks, I have to postpone lunch.

Three cheers for Peggy Noonan

Three cheers for Peggy Noonan.  She seems to have retreated a bit from her elite smuggness and realized what a disaster the White House and Senate wannabes have dumped on conservatives and the Republican Party .  http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/

Never liked Peggy Noonan. How

Never liked Peggy Noonan. However, she is right on with her comments. My wife and I were always puzzled about why Bush never moved to secure our borders. Now we know. He never wanted to secure our borders. Good by, George, don't let the door kick your ass on your way out.

NEVER,NEVER trust a liberal

sorry to realize this,

How ignorant you can be. Truly CLUELESS about the border.

caring--thanks for the link--

caring--thanks for the link--Peggy has succinctly stated all that is wrong with the current adminstration. I have dropped my membership in the RNC, over three years ago. I did it because I thought if I stayed, I would be saying that I endorsed all the President Bush was doing. I did not.

Pursuant to my previous post, I did endorse a large part of what President Bush WANTED to do--he never got it done, except for Iraq.

misterbill-You are not alone

misterbill-You are not alone . . . . Here's a link to the fund-raising problems facing the RNC.

 http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20070601-122909-8977r.htm

Hold onto your Beatles musi

Hold onto your Beatles music, there will be no new groups that will replace them.

Don't forget Reagan, like the Beatles he will not be succeeded either.

Whatever negatives one might have for Bush, the dems are crumbling behind the curtains. One day Bush will be recognized for his accomplishments. I must agree with Noonan in this instance, Bush is dividing the conservatives and the White House.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

Speaking of the Beatles... 40

Speaking of the Beatles... 40th anniversary of the release of Sgt. Pepper's today. No, you do not have permission to sing "It was 40 years ago today..."

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

unbelievable

I just got a call (per-recorded of course) from Ed Hill president of the IBEW.

He is asking all IBEW Union members to call their Senators to oppose the Immigration Bill.  Unbelievable

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

And from the site, the AFL-CI

And from the site, the AFL-CIO, and the Building and Trades unions are also opposed how come no mention by the MSM?

Supreme Court,  National Security,  Borders,  Fiscal Restraint, my litmus test for President.   

Ha, ha, ha!   Here's anothe

Ha, ha, ha!   Here's another one: At the end of WWII, there was a huge sale on used military equipment. Some of the items included:

1)  10,000 Italian rifles---never fired, dropped once

2) 5,000 Russian tanks---work fine but reverse gear burned out

I thought it was French rifle

I thought it was French rifles. I like the Italians more than the French, so let's make them French rifles.

I heard they were French rifl

I heard they were French rifles. I like the Italians more than the French, so let's make them French rifles.

On Russian tanks

5000 Russian tanks with burnt-out reverse gears?

Clearly you are not familiar with battles such as Kursk...

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Hans-Ulrich Rudel & his s

Hans-Ulrich Rudel & his stuka generally didn't leave Russian tanks the time to get into any gear at all...
JMR

Well, as I recall, the T-34s

Well, as I recall, the T-34s made it to Unter den Linden and Brandenburger Tor in spite of that...

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Not all of 'em....JMR

Not all of 'em....
JMR

Oh, I won't deny that in the

Oh, I won't deny that in the least...just my point being that in the overall scheme of things, it was the Soviets who won on the Eastern Front :-) .

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Well sick n tired

I read the page, and especially the charts, and if they are correct, it is astounding evidence of the capability of the press to whip everyone into a frenzy.

 I deduced the AGWers are full of it by catching them in so many lies myself, irregardless of the totally busting them charts.

 What I don't quite understand is how charts like that can be "hidden" from the mainstream. I suspect they know, but just add in their "tipping point" and therefore disregard them as inconsequential.

 I'm very discouraged by it all.

I certianly hope my confidence is somewhat restored by it all being exposed, but I find myself doubting that the truth will win. If there is a turnaround, I expect the AGWers to have some made up excuse as to why things shifted so substantially, and to spend billions studying the "new phenomena" and to lay claim to it's "discovery".

 Of course they will tell everyone it is a good thing they were doing what they had been doing with AGW, lest this "new thing" (old standard 5th grade science claimed as a brilliant new complexity) would never have come to light.

Sport,Keep the faith my broth

Sport,

Keep the faith my brother, the more we share the facts and the science with the sheeple  the more we expose AGW'ers for the agenda driven liars they are.  I think the tide is turning in this issue.  I will also admit I have great concern too; I think the truth is starting to become everso more  evident; my concern is will it happen fast enough.  It won't if we give up in this endeavor.

Dateline June 1, 2007New York

Dateline June 1, 2007

New York Times front page headline:

Bush Proposes Goal To Reduce Greenhouse Gas

LONG-TERM WORLD TARGET

A Shift for a White House That Has Long Resisted Setting Firm Limits

My question is, now that Bush has “shifted” on this issue, or in the parlance of Karl Rove “Flip-flopped” on this issue, will Noel Sheppard and the other global warming deniers on this site follow his lead?  Fear not, heads-in-the-sanders.  If you read the entire Times article, you quickly learn that it is just another Bush administration smoke and mirrors ploy to posit unattainable goals that ultimately distract from and derail the process already in motion for reducing greenhouse gases.  Stall and distract while taking credit for good deeds; a specialty of the Bushies!

Regards, Dave High

 "Ah, we did?  I don't think so." (George Bush's response when asked why the administration changed its position on what causes global warming)

 

"...stall and distract..

"...stall and distract..."

Dave,

My dear friend you have it all wrong, discredit, deflect distract and detract are methodologies that the AGW disciples use in the face of facts.  By the way I love your use of the term 'deniers'.  Last I checked, those armed with facts and can substantiate their arguements are true scientists, and those that work on emotion or politically driven agenda's, such as Al Gore, are the true deniers.

As for Bush, I don't think he knows up from down on this issue.  I just hope he doesn't implement policy based on junk science.

p.s. Check out my post below---very informative.

Sick n tired

I think they'ell (dippy doodles like Dave and Al)  have to soon claim the next Ice Age is kicking in and offsetting the Man Made Global Warming, but in fact their precise adjustments have made for the near perfect living environment, and that even though they were not wrong, we'd be in terrible shape without their valiant clean world environment efforts, which exactly coincide with the proper volume of new co2 required from the lack of perfect adherence to Kyoto. However, they will warn, their efforts must continue and be increased, and always be ready to make gigantic targeted changes if in the future it becomes immediately neccessary. Their Globalk Weather Carbo-ratchik shall not be defeated!

lol - what freaks

That is why I call bull sh*t

That is why I call bull sh*t when they try to use the phrase climate change as opposed to global warming.  They are trying to get a lock on any and every weather and climate phenom possible to drive there agenda for a socialist utopia.  Can't let them get away with it.

I was hoping little Davey "I'm so high" would come back to play.  Just a drive by troll i suppose...

SNT-- climate change as opposed to global warming

 climate change as opposed to global warming --- I prefer "rising temperature problem" It sounds so,,you know.. harmless!!

Earths Current Climate Correc

Earths Current Climate Correction phase. I like that.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

how about temperately challan

how about temperately challanged??

How about

How about, "more sunny days at the nude beach."

BINGO!

BINGO!

Since Bush knows that the hat

Since Bush knows that the haters oppose everything he says and does no matter what, by tossing a supportive word or two toward global warming means haters will have no choice but to oppose AGW if they wish to remain consistent.

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"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

There is no scientific proof

There is no scientific proof that the small climate change observed over the last century is primarily anthropogenic in its causes. 

There is no scientific proof that the warming observed since 1700 has been harmful to man or will even continue at the same pace for the next century, much less at the much greater rates postulated by AGW alarmists.

Therefore, there is no reason to institute fascist measures to prevent peaceful human behavior that has not been scientifically proven harmful.

Self crucifixition on that cross of guilt

Keep crucifying yourself on that cross of First World Guilt...

I suppose, since you believe that American industry is the locus of evil in the modern world, that you support having the United States increase the share of electricity it gets from nukes?  It works for 78.5% of France's needs.  How come you and other hyper-Leftists don't like that idea? 

(It really is too bad that we aren't monolithic Bush apologists as you so desperately want to believe, huh?)

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If you had read previous comm

If you had read previous comments on other threads, you would already have your answer. Agw is bullsh!t no matter who says differently. We don't blindly follow our party leaders like the lemings in the dem party do. We think things through and come to our own conclusions after research and considered thought. Liberals don't do this and simply follow their daily talking points.

I just hope Bush doesn't get us into something costly over this crap.

(From the late 60s/early 70s)

(From the late 60s/early 70s):

Have you heard about the new Egyptian tank?  It has 5 gears, 4 in reverse and one forward in case the enemy gets behind them.

Why do Egyptian Air Force pilots complete flight training faster than Israeli pilots?  Egyptian pilots don't need to learn how to land.

Why do Egyptian naval vessels have glass bottoms?  So they can see the Egyptian Air Force.

(Rimshot)

good ones These are the bo

good ones

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Out of all of the "Gaggl

Out of all of the "Gaggle" cartoons at the top of the NB pages, today's is my favorite! Good job!

No RINOs in '08 - Thompson/Hunter would be a good ticket

SJ -- but Thompson/Michael

SJ -- but Thompson/Michael Steele could be a GREAT ticket!

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

I agree! Wow! Wonder why I di

I agree! Wow! Wonder why I didn't think of that!

No RINOs in '08 - Thompson/Steele would be a great ticket

how about this ticket

Thompson/Rice

Err, sorry LK, but Condi ha

Err, sorry LK, but Condi has turned into Madeline Halfbright, right before our very eyes.

Either that, or the State Department has the real Condi chained to a radiator in a Foggy Bottom basement.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

I still respect her

I still think Condi is awesome. I think the State Department is bigger than one person...even Condi. I think her hands are tied as much as Executive branch is when it comes to legislation.

I think we are in agreement that 2nd term Bush Admin, overall, has been a collosal disappointment.

If conservatives are RIGHT, then liberals must be WRONG.

Lion -- you're correct of course.

Lion -- you correct of course.

All Administration appointments serve at the pleasure of the President. Ms Rice is only (in theory) implementing his policies.

But ... as those policies now seem now to be drifting 180 degress opposite of his first term ideas (in particular to NK, the Middle East and Israel), it makes you wonder if they have simply abandoned all State to the leftist, socialist and general UN lovers who seem to infest all career employers in "State".

The loss of John Bolton has been catastrophic.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

The loss of John Bolton has b

The loss of John Bolton has been catastrophic.

Bingo Jack!

He was the only chance we had...the leftist including that scum-ball Chafee made sure of that...they accomplished their mission.

To our county's detriment.

caught daydreaming

I was just envisioning the night of the Vice-Presidential debates with Condi versus anyone else...just daydreaming right now.

On criticism of Condi

Condi is awesome, but it will take eight more of her serving for eight years apiece - or more - to purge State of Leftist idealism. 

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Secretary Rice is too much of

Secretary Rice is too much of a lady to be effective in the down and dirty partisan political world in which we find ourselves. I'm afraid that, right now, the last thing we need is a diplomat representing Republicans on the ticket.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Sect Rice

You are probably correct, but, I dunno...I thought maybe it would be nice to have someone really, really smart in a leadership role.

My pick a while ago was Allen

My pick a while ago was Allen and Condi, but with Allen going under and I’m not so sure about Condi anymore.
Thompson, Hunter, Newt, Mitt in that order for me. Mitt I worry that might be a RINO.

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I think Duncan Hunter is the correct pick

I think Duncan Hunter is the correct pick. I don't know much about him, but have heard nothing bad, stangely enough.

He came forward when the Pelosiloons made their kos fake troop funding pork lie bill, and told me on national TV that page 72 REQUIRES any new actions in Iraq to be first forwarded to his Intelligence Committee, whereby they have 15 days to "make a decision for the commanders on the ground in Iraq" - and forward their "vote" for or against killing the enemy. LOL He was fuming. GOOD.

 I have said " That's the guy !" ever since that appearance.

He told me the page number, he is part of the intel committee, and he laid it out flat how ridiculous it was. It did more for me UNDERSTANDING the problem with that bill than anything anyone else has said before or since. I had FACTS to dig my heels in with, including a PAGE NUMBER. He appeared on one of the talking head shows when I saw him, not sure which one at this point.

 Now, there's the next President if I had my way.

I suppose some people feel it's "bad" when a POTUS candidate gets down to citing a page number, it seems perhaps "unpresidential" or too focused...

 I bet Al Gore though, and Pelosi - shook in their shoes, since it SLAMMED THEM INTO THE DIRT in my estimation. Gore wants specifics? Gore wants real debate and discussion? Well, that was REAL to me.

 Loved it. Perfect. Let us know what CRAP you're looking at in your behind the scenes committee work almost all of us never get to see. EXCELLENT JOB. We would not have known otherwise. Noone else told me, and I have not seen it reported anywhere else by anyone before or since. I've heard a bunch of spun up generalizations, that I would have no idea how to verify... or refute.

Duncan Hunter. I know one more thing, his demand for 800+ miles border fence to be built IMMEDIATELY, and his concurrent condemnation of the current bill that cuts it down to 300 some IGNORING the LAW that ALREADY PASSED. Here's the petitition everyone can sign at his website.

Yeah man, Duncan Hunter.

Hi Sport,I don't know if you

Hi Sport,

I don't know if you have missed my link here lately about Duncan Hunter....so I will put it in here again, it has his voting record....

I agree with you and have been saying...

Thompson/Hunter '08 for a long time now, I also have said in other posts if I had my way it would be Hunter/Thompson...or another good suggestion too is Steele by Jack Bauer.

Glad we agree about Hunter...lol!

Ok sounds good BT

Duncan Hunter

Ok sounds good BT. Since I don't know enough I went looking, and am still of the same mindset.

Here is 15 or more short Duncan Hunter videos (some youtube popups. I guess he was Armed Services Committee, not Intel as I said above ( unless he was both)

Here is his core principles page.

He's got a good answer on trade, manufacturing infrastructure, China, and defense in one or several of those videos.

And thanks I read through your link on his votes.

I think Sec. Rice would have

I think Sec. Rice would have a good chance of winning, simply because she is a lady, diplomatic and smart. I do think there are alot of folks out here that are tired of the dirty, below the belt and trashy politics going on today. Need some one with gumption and feet firmly in the conservative beliefs. So far, I have seen none of that on the republican side.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

bass,I'd like to think you're

bass,

I'd like to think you're right, but all I can see is that nice Republicans finish last and are torn up in the process. The media doesn't seem to offer many accolades to Republicans for being civil and being uncivil hasn't seemed to hurt the Democrats. I'm not happy about this, but it is what it is...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

There goes the Hunter Thompso

There goes the Hunter Thompson joke . . .

Hunter Thompson Joke

Flying by without the faintest notice.

Jack...That would be a great

Jack...

That would be a great ticket indeed also!

Would be great strategy that is for sure...plus I love Steele, wouldn't that be a poke in the eye to Schumer and other leftists who have done their best to demonize any black republican's for years and years....

Delicious thought!

Plus if this ever became a real deal Steele may move on to become the real first black President in history here....oh to funny ..this would kill just the dem party...they would be seething in anger and smother themselves with hatred.

I just wished he had Duncan Hunters voting record, especially regarding illegal immigration....and othe issues...

Time will tell.

BT -- yeah way to early! L

BT -- yeah way to early! Let's see if Fred even runs yet.

From all I read, and what I hear, Steele would be sensational as a VP choice, I think.

Whatever -- he has to be a serious conservative Presidential candidate at some point. Just don't call him clean. Thouhg he does look well scrubbed on TV.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

Jack...Oh I am sure Thompson

Jack...

Oh I am sure Thompson is going to run...only reason I think he wouldn't is his health took a down-turn.

I saw this today regarding Thompson and his running...whether he wants to or not...lol!

A few jokes from laughatlib

A few jokes from laughatliberals.com

Question - What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
Answer -A
puppy stops whining after it grows up.

Question - What is the only thing worse than an incompetent liberal
President?
Answer -A competent liberal President.

Question - Who was the first liberal Democrat?
Answer -Christopher
Columbus. He left not knowing where he was going,got there not knowing where he
was,left there not knowing where he’d been and did it all on borrowed money.

Q: How many liberals does it take to change a light Bulb?
A: At least ten,
as they will need to have a discussion about whether or not the light bulb
exists. Even if they can agree upon the existence of the light bulb they still
may not change it to keep from alienating those who might use other forms of
light.

Q:How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
A:None. Liberals
wouldn’t actually change the light bulb, but they would show compassion for it
by talking a lot about how terrible it is in the dark and more funding is needed
to improve dim, 60 watt bulbs up to bright and productive 100 watt bulbs.

Q: How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?
A: Let George
Bush fix it! It’s his fault it’s dark anyway!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

How many liberals does it tak

How many liberals does it take to change a light bulb?

NONE. they don't realize they are in the dark.

No RINOs in '08 - Thompson/Hunter would be a good ticket

SJ -- So that's why Democra

SJ -- So that's why Democrat(ic)s want to import another 40 million illiterate illegal aliens!

To change the lightbulbs Americans won't (or can't) change.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

Well they will do it, just no

Well they will do it, just not for below minimum wage.

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

Another English-French war joke

Here's another story from that same English-French war...

There had been a prolonged and frustrating stalemate at the front line, and during an English war strategy session, a clever lieutenant suggested they yell out a common French name, hopefully enticing a French soldier to respond by standing up, giving the English soldiers a clear shot. The generals decided "Jacque" was a good name to use.

So the next day, an English soldier shouted "Hey Jacque!" And lo and behold a French soldier heard his name, stood up and replied "Yeah?" He was promptly shot by the English soldier.

This went on all day, with the English shouting "Hey Jacque!" with continued success. Gradually the French began losing ground... not to mention a number of soldiers named Jacques. That evening, in the French war room, they tried to come up with a way to turn the tide. A French lieutentant suggested they fight fire with fire, and shout out a common English name. The generals agreed and decided that "Ian" would be a good name to shout.

So the next day, giddy with excitement about their plan, a French soldier on the front line shouted, "Hey, Ian!"

Ian responded: "Is that you Jacque?"

The French soldier stood up and yelled "Yeah!" ... and was promptly shot by Ian.</