NYT Defends 'Useful Provocateur' Rosie O'Donnell's WTC 7 Conspiracy Theory


New York Times columnist and reporter Jim Dwyer provided comfort to left-wing anti-Bush conspirators everywhere when he gave respectability to Rosie O’Donnell’s wacky theorizing about how World Trade Center No. 7 collapsed (“miraculously, for the first time in history, steel was melted by fire”).

Even the headline misleads: “On Her Way Out the Door, Rosie O’Donnell Revives a Conspiracy Theory About 9/11.” Actually, the recently departed co-host of “The View” said it on the March 29 edition of the show -- two full months ago.

“The first day of the post-Rosie O’Donnell era on ‘The View’ television show has come and gone, and by any fair accounting, an often useful provocateur has left the building.

“In her final months on the air, she mostly dropped her public torment of an attention-starved, orange-haired real estate developer. Instead, she opened debates with others about terrorism, peace and citizenship.”

(You can read some of O’Donnell’s more “useful” debates (including her conspiracy theory on WTC 7) in this compilation by the Media Research Center.)

“She also recently took up -- without quite spelling out -- a theory that one of the buildings at the World Trade Center, No. 7, was brought down by bombs late in the afternoon of Sept. 11, 2001. No. 7 was not one of the towers struck by the airplanes, she said, but a separate building ‘that got hit by nothing -- 47 floors and dropped, 5:30, into itself.’

“She also said: ‘I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center Tower 7 -- Building 7, which collapsed in on itself -- it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved.”

That conversation has been left dangling by her abrupt departure from the show, but her statements made their way to Queens and the home of Daniel Nigro, retired after a life in the Fire Department. He began the morning of Sept. 11 as second-in-command; by 10:30, he was in charge, when the chief of department, Peter J. Ganci Jr., was killed.

"'I feel like I watch the show because it’s replayed so often on the news: ‘I never saw fire melt steel,’ and the studio audience clapping, like this was some great revelation,’ Mr. Nigro said. ‘It’s true that there has never been a skyscraper collapse as a result of just a fire. It’s a natural progression to a conspiracy theory.'"

Dwyer eventually let Nigro debunk the theory. Yet he bizarrely inserted this in the middle of Nigro’s dissection, as if to shore up the wacky premises behind O’Donnell’s delusions.

Few civic virtues are as useful as skepticism, though it is rarely honored until too late. The citizens who questioned the validity of the case for war in Iraq were widely scorned or ignored in 2002 and 2003 by the government and the news media.”

This is not the first instance of a Times reporter giving credence to a bizarre left-wing conspiracy theory involving 9-11. In June 2006, reporter Alan Feuer gave respectful coverage to a conspiracy convention in Chicago who thought Bush caused 9-11, and he also tried to shore up its credence by pointing to more “plausible” conspiracy theories like the ones over the Kennedy assassination.

Right-wing conspirators didn’t get the same sympathy from the Times during the Clinton era. The February 23, 1997 New York Times Magazine story “Clinton Crazy” by Philip Weiss, a 9,000-word story on those who thought Clinton aide Vince Foster’s suicide was actually murder, referred to Clinton “haters” six times, “Clinton crazies” 11 times and four “far rights” for good measure.

For more New York Times bias, visit Times Watch.

—Clay Waters is the director of Times Watch, an MRC project tracking the New York Times.


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Is "provocateur" French for "

Is "provocateur" French for "fat, loud-mouthed idiot"?

I was thinking the same thing

I was thinking the same thing. You beat me to it. LOL!

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

Man I am slow today!  I was

Man I am slow today!  I was thinking typing away and you got it.  Darn these slow fingers!

It was just sitting out there

It was just sitting out there waiting to be taken. Had to do it.

Useful hemroid?

I get the provocateur part.  I'm more puzzled by the "useful" part.  Is that kind of like a "useful" hemroid?

Toilet paper is useful. So ar

Toilet paper is useful. So are barf bags.

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

Good Point Mean Gene

Good point Mean Gene. And those items might be considered provocative to a tree-hugger.........

more like ---

more like ---a boil on your butt. Now --that's useful??

Ha Mr. Bill

Ha Mr. Bill. Believe it or not that was my first choice for my warped analogy......butt....I considered that too provocative.

I insinuated this on the fo

I insinuated this on the forum side. It was if she had bloomed early in unexpected warm February weather only to be confronted by a March (Hasselbeck) cool down which she was unable to handle. These people cannot deal with facts.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

I'm not up to date on the Vin

I'm not up to date on the Vince Foster case (although a co-worker of mine thinks he was murdered) but I do know when Clinton was governor of Arkansas he knowingly allowed drug running at Mena and even denied it taking place.

Of course, GW the first was still president....

But don't listen to me...I'm just a whacko 9/11 conspiracy theorist...

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena.html

If I were a 2008 candidate

If I were a 2008 candidate the Clintons would be off limits. Allow the general public to read the two books 'out of nowhere' and surmise as they so choose, but do not touch the contents. What is there to be gained by fighting over what is true or not in the Clinton past v. where we want to take America and how? Why would any sane person want to argue infidelity over increased taxes?

There is something to home field advantage, play your game at home and run your offense.

JDW

News media: Scoreboard for terrorists

But don't listen to me...I'm

But don't listen to me...I'm just a whacko 9/11 conspiracy theorist...

You said it bucko, I don't and you are.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

We've got to ask, and ask oft

We've got to ask, and ask often, of these so-called, cowardly "journalists" can YOU prove this so-called theory? Why not? Prove what you say, or don't say anything and save a tree. If you can't do that, then print it on one sheet of tp, so at least it will be useful, for ms. Crow.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Uh, did you look at the link

Uh, did you look at the link (probably not) or just spit off the first thing that came to your mind (and probably your first thought of the day).

It is apparent that I can't prove even the most obvious of conspiracies (9/11) to you people so why try with something even smaller?

thoughtpolice

I have explained this to you time and time again. If your having reading comprehension problems, I suggest you get one of your chums, with an IQ above that of a frozen twinkie, to explain it to you. You would think that the physics of 9-11 would explain themselves. But then that is assuming someone has a HS education. Frankly, anyone that belives this so called theory of yours is a fool.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Ummmm....hey....Rosie? Didja ever notice...?

(“miraculously, for the first time in history, steel was melted by fire”).

A few weeks ago, a gasoline truck crashed under one of the STEEL overcrossings that leads to the San Francisco Bay Bridge. The fire from one gasoline tanker generated sufficient heat to melt two levels of steel bridges causing them BOTH to collapse to the ground below.

Why does Rosie think fire can't melt steel?

And...oh yeah...they kind of melt it to form it into things like girders in the first place.....don't they????

Oh yeah===well====

Oh yeah===well====that's bridge steel, try it on building steel. You conservatives will say anything to hide your dispk--desspakabl--lousy conspiracy. And don't start with me about the other two metals. Tian and gold.

"And...oh yeah...they ki

"And...oh yeah...they kind of melt it to form it into things like girders in the first place.....don't they????"

That's what I thought, but apparently girders are either mined or I think hydroponically cultivated in the underground Joint Alien-Federal Government fortress at Dulce, New Mexico. From there they are transported to steel mills on the underground supersonic mag-lev rail system that criss-crosses the continental U.S. so we all think the steel mills are producing them.

I think TP and LoD can fill in all the details.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." --Thomas Jefferson

MeanGene-- I think TP is out of this--

MeanGene-- I think TP is out of this--he took Sheryl Crow's advice and now he is one sheet to the wind.

DOH!

I feel like such a moron!

I forgot about the joint Alien-Federal Government projects! THAT'S where all the AMERICAN workers went! That's why we need illegals.

But...wait a minute! If the Americans are working underground...and the illegals are working on the surface getting tanned as they mow our lawns....then....don't the Democrats and Liberals have it backwards? Don't we need to bring the AMERICAN workers out of the shadows?

Oh, hell. A few more rounds with Teddy Kennedy and everything will (hiccup) becom clear! Thank God Nancy Pelosi is out there confirming Global Warming for us all. She'll figure this all out....right after she confirms that she has excommunicated herself. Then she can tackle the Rain Forest problem...you remember...it was just a few years ago. (Quick somebody get Sting on the phone.)

Yeah...Rain Forests...they were all going to disappear...but then...the Interior Minister of Brazil (not his correct title) pointed out that if you "did the math" the entire Amazon would be barren based on how many acres per hour were being burned and the number of years over which the -global warming types- were predicting total global death!

Oh...and while I'm on a roll...in 1980, in Skin Diver Magazine (read the article myself) Jacques Cousteau sadly announced that the bottom of the food chain was dead (that would be plankton). By 1990 we were all going to begin to starve.

HEY, FAT PEOPLE!!! WHAT THE HE.. DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING??? FACE IT...THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GET FAT...EATING TOO MUCH. YOU'RE KILLING THE REST OF US NOW THAT THE FOOD CHAIN HAS BEEN DEAD FOR 17 YEARS!!!!

Fire. Steel. Mmm

Fire. Steel. Mmm

Wonder how they make steel?

Bad, Gary.  Bad, bad Gary.Go

Bad, Gary.  Bad, bad Gary.

Go to your room.

You just made Rosie look like an idjit.

Nicely done!

They make steel?

They make steel?

Only the Evil Republicans.T

Only the Evil Republicans.

The Pure and Wholesome Democrats use Natural Organic Steel.

/Sarcasm off.

Next thing you know they are

Next thing you know they are going to tell us that it was a missile not a plane that slammed into the Pentagon....What?  They have?  For crying out loud who is coming up with this stuff?!

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day.
Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

John, don't be silly!  Fire

John, don't be silly!  Fire can't melt steel.  Structural steel for buildings is a crystaline form of ferrous alloys mined in the Mesabi range of Minnesota.  Railroad steel is a waste product of Structural steel mining.  Bridge steel is mined in Colorado, but they have to be awfully careful, because artillery shells are frequently found in veins mixed in with the bridge steel.  Geeze, don't you know anything?

"A communist is someone who reads Marx.  An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx."  Ronald Reagan

So does Rosie and all of thos

So does Rosie and all of those who go along with her 'conspiracy' theory believe that those who were on the one plane that did not make it to its destination to blow up another building, just made it all up? I am speaking of those who called loved ones just before their flight crashed.

Debra...

I've thought of that one too,

I've thought of that one too, good point.  I guess when you have such blind hatred for something, you'll believe whatever the heck you want.  I mean if she hated grizzley bears, I guess she would blame them for 9/11 too.  It's sort of become a fill in the blank with your most hated group or person.    _________ was really responsible for 9/11.  Very sad that this type of thinking gets such extenisve coverage.

Thank you, CR. And I like you

Thank you, CR. And I like your user name. So many people want the government to take care of them, that they are willing to give up Capitalism in exchange for Socialism.

Debra...

Deb- absolutely, free markets

Deb- absolutely, free markets let us decide what is best for ourselves.  And it is under major attack from within our own ranks without many people knowing it.

ENOUGH about this (wo)man. (S

ENOUGH about this (wo)man. (S)he alreary "left" the building!!!

Thank goodness for structural

Thank goodness for structural physicist, geopolotical analyst, economic genius and expert climatologist Rosie O'Dingbat, where would we get our education without you?

While you guys try and figu

While you guys try and figure out what Rose was saying, credible groups are coming out for 9/11 truth.

www.pilotsfor911trut...

www.ae911truth.org (architects and engineers)

www.stj911.org

Yes, I know...they are ALL liberal and ALL crazy. The fact that they have people with Masters degrees and Ph. D's as compared to people on here who have a degree in following what others say pales in comparision.

Keep drinking the kool-aid...it gets better with each sip..

Dude, you DO realize you're

Dude, you DO realize you're now posting on the actual blogs, not in your cave on the forums?

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Is that you Rosie?

Is that you Rosie?  Would just love to check out your doctor approved links but these pesky thumbtacks need arranging on my bulleting board again - must be a conspiracy.  But real quick - do the people with the Master and PhD you are so excited about concur with your premise that 911 was the first time in history fire melted steel?  BTW - Did Dr. Seuss have a PhD?

True Cap -- she's big in al

True Cap -- she's big in all those areas. Always the smartest peson in the (bath) room.

You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll talk jive! Just check out my latest YouTube video Hillary Clinton Talks Jive

Wow, real PHD's!!

I think Timothy Leary wuz one of dem, wuzn't he?

Gore lied. Nobody fried