I nominate Barbara Strisand!

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

There's an image - babs and joy with palm fronds, fanning the large, sweating rosiedude, lounging on a nile barge, as it slowly drifts down the river, while slipping into the accumulated mud. On the shore is Elizabeth, waiting patiently on her elephant, surrounded by legions of crying rosiedud fans, hoping their tears will raise the sinking craft, not kowing the roseidue has been secretly nibbling on the boats reeds, thinking it was shredded wheat.

So long, rosedude, may your new gig be as successful as your last, but not as long.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

Yeah, I know you don't want me pissed, but I'll say my peace, especially when vindicated.

BT, you didn't get chosen for a TV show with fat rosie on it and there's a reason for that, with several other libs, with an elite lib audience.

Their plan didn't work, it finally blew up in their face.

I quite understand everyone here would have destroyed rosie every day, screaming at the top of their lungs and half of us would have decked her and beat the bloody snot out of her. That's not the point, nor is it a realistic issue.

 What is still the problem is the constant attacking of decent and good enough republicans and conservatives. It's an epidemic on the conservative side, especially before elections. It is immensely helpful to the left, to the democrats, and totally destructive of the republicans and the party. The republican party ate up Hastert and mr gay emails like ravenous lunatics - and THEY WERE WRONG.

 As I've said before, everytime she got in a word edgewise , it was a republican position. But many still hated her and said so.

 It's not right, it's a huge problem, not just the internet egos, but the party leaders, with the ultra sensitivity to percieved wrongdoing and the toss over the side crap.

 She should NOT have been attacking rosie all along, because she wouldn't have gotten away with it.There were hundreds of others attacking rosie in the alternate media, and they weren't chosen as get alongs on the show.

 Indeed we see, the combination of her leaving, and the fact that Elisabeth opened fire, despite her standing orders from Baba -( in fact the BOSS was gone ) - led to the victory.

 I am gloating, and I still believe in that type of environment she did what she could for a year. She wasn't allowed to speak, and that should be apparent.

 If you happened to have noticed, Rosie had her little open discussion that she wasn't going to "do this" --- before it all started... So the plans for the show were obviously modified beforehand, and she knew Elisabeth wasn't chained down. They probably decided to " give Elisabeth a chance" before rosie fled in 3 weeks.

 I guess what you people wanted was Elisabeth stomping off the slanted environment near a year ago after letting her have it. Do you have any doubt that the little talks given on how everyone interacts and behaves isn't micromanaged backstage before and after every show by the liberals running the thing ? I guess naivete' is the answer.

 Screw this idiotic right wing crap that everyone spews how they would do so much better.

 We have our HEROINE - and she did great the whole time considering the CONDITIONS.

 I see how the right is so willing to stab their own in the back, so often, it sickens me. Then the left plays on that, calling "Bush loyalists" the problem with the USA.

 Republicans and conservatives here constantly in reaction recite when a lib attacks how they don't go along with everything Bush says, asserting their conservative cred like it's a diamond mine they alone control.

 I'm sick of it really. That's all. It's wrong in most cases. No encouragement really to those publicly waging the fight, just emotional complaining when it isn't up to par, and the complainer would of course always have done so much better.

 I watched the pundit gals of various stations and even Donald Trump say Elisabeth is an idiot ( same old dumb blonde good looking stereotype ) , but when she was allowed to talk, she DESTROYED rosie on every point, same way she did her opposition on H&C that so many republican line toters here were upset about.

  So the answer for many was " I thought she was a complete idiot, but the way she destroyed rosie was impressive " (gosh not an idiot after all)

( In other words, their own bias prevented them from noticing any intellect in any of her 3 word allowed answers on the show ) Heck, they never even heard her answers - but I challenged for a left wing one, or demo one - and not a single ever came. ( I paid attention to what the blonde flower said)

When she did speak on H&C about IMUS, her arguments were far above what Hannity presents daily, but so many called her an idiot then too.

 They are simply wrong.

 She isn't a talking head politican or pundit ( although she should be now - I hope Fox hires her for it ), and her position on The View was not " make political points " - Rosie caused a change in the shows format.

 I agree and think the republicans don't do a good job of offense or defense, and it's NOT Bush' fault.

 However, in the environment Elisabeth was in, she did all she could.

 Not true of Bush, nor true of republican pundits and speakers in general, when they are on so many political shows and news hours, and are given the opportunity to speak and freelance.

Oh FastEd...you ham!

jgrapes...

Not at all going to be angry about what you said.

My only problem with that is ...I am sick of hearing that pregnancy somehow makes you speak out...or be brave or some such...that would be sad if that is what people think make women somehow finally go from timid and somewhat intelligent to the facts presented to speaking your mind....and knowing the facts...hopefully.

What a bunch of BS.

IMHO.

You have a great Memorial Day week-end too friend.

poco...

Oh okay, I saw that too through this site with a link sent here along with another one earlier than that to sign to demand that she step down to abc...which a lot of people had, I noticed...lol!

This is what happens when you finally stand up to ill informed loudmouth libs. Problem was Liz should have told her  "HEY ROSIE- YOU KNOW THAT 65000 DEAD IRAQI NUMBER WAS NOT BASED ON A BODY COUNT- IT WAS 100% FABRICATION"