'View' Showdown On Rosie's Troops as Terrorists Suggestion

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By Ken Shepherd | May 23, 2007 - 13:25 ET

Update (14:17 EDT): Summary and transcript by Justin McCarthy posted below.

At first Rosie insisted she wouldn't debate Hasselbeck:

"Here's how it gets spun in the media. Rosie, big, fat lesbian, loud Rosie attacks innocent, pure Christian Elisabeth. And I'm not going to do it."

That didn't last long, as you can see from the highlight reel:

Video (4:07): Real (3.02 MB) or Windows (2.52 MB), or MP3 (1.87 MB)

Allahpundit at Hot Air has video too and makes this observation:

With Rosie on her way out I guess there’s no reason for them to pretend they’re friends anymore. Here she is at her disingenuous worst, playing the “big, fat, lesbian” victim while deliberately twisting Hasselbeck’s point about the enemy in Iraq — namely, Al Qaeda — to accuse her of treating Iraqi civilians as the enemy. Or is it deliberate? The more I watch, the more I think she simply doesn’t know that Al Qaeda has a presence there.

Update (Justin McCarthy | 14:17 EDT):

Elisabeth Hasselbeck finally stood up to Rosie O’Donnell’s bullying on the May 23 edition of “The View” as it got very personal between the two co-hosts. Joy Behar began the segment rattling off alleged failures of the Bush administration and the conversation quickly sank into a giant fight between Elisabeth and Rosie.

Rosie was offended Elisabeth did not “defend” Rosie and even called Elisabeth a “coward.” However, Elisabeth’s performance was anything but cowardly. Joy Behar and guest co-host Sherri Shepherd were knocked out of the conversation and they occasionally chimed in with a joke. Behar gestured to Shepherd to leave and Sherri Shepherd joked “this is why I like watching ‘Dancing with the Stars.’”

Also noteworthy, this flareup marks the end of Rosie's short-lived promise to not yell at the pregnant Hasselbeck.

JOY BEHAR: I was watching Al Gore on, on "Larry King" last night and, you know, he has a new book out, Al Gore, where he basically really says that Bush was the worst president that we’ve ever had in the history of the country. And I noticed that Jimmy Carter, a former president, is saying the same thing. So now if the former president Jimmy Carter is saying it and a former vice president of the United States is saying it and I have a list here of the things that Bush has done. I don't really understand why he's still there. Does anyone have any idea why we can't get rid of this guy who stole the election in 2000, killed the surplus with tax cuts –

ELISABETH HASSELBECK: According to Gore he stole it.

BEHAR: Wait a minute. It's very long. Wanting to privatize social security. Let me get through the list.

HASSELBECK: It’s very long, so we might be here for a while.

BEHAR: We might be here for a while. I let you talk yesterday. Now I'm talking. And I love her, but let me do this. He withdrew us from the Kyoto Treaty, John Ashcroft. Sat in the classroom after learning about 9/11 --

HASSELBECK: So he was supposed to freak out the kids when he was reading to them, I suppose.

BEHAR: And read "My Pet Goat" for seven minutes after we were attacked on 9/11.

HASSELBECK: Right, he should have definitely panicked the children.

BEHAR: He lied to us to get us into the war. He awarded a no-bid contract to Halliburton, Abu Ghraib. He promoted his friend Michael Brown to take care of Katrina. Heck of a job, Brownie. Remember that? He doesn't listen to the Iraq Study Group. He choked on a pretzel. [laughter] He waited a week to visit New Orleans and then only to watch some jazz. He stood by Alberto Gonzales, who needs to be thrown out, we all know that, and he stood by Rumsfeld, who some people think is a war criminal. He can't pronounce the word "nuclear." [laughter] These are just some of the reasons -- [Applause] -- That this guy needs to be thrown out of office.

SHERRI SHEPHERD: Yes, but he didn't sleep with an intern.

[laughter]

BEHAR: Yes, but maybe he should.

HASSELBECK: No, he did not.

BEHAR: I'm just saying something is wrong in this country when we are continuing to support this administration. I am furious today over all of this and Al Gore makes me mad because he doesn't run. Now, he says in the interview yesterday with Larry King that he's not running because he thinks global warming is more important. Well, the president of the United States has more power than anybody in the world and he needs to run for office if he wants to fix global warming and get us out of this mess that we’re in.

SHEPHERD: You think Al Gore could get us out, Al Gore?

BEHAR: Who else could? Who else could?

HASSELBECK: I knew I liked you, Sherri.

SHEPHERD: No I'm just saying, Al Gore, you know what he’s talking about with the Green Peace and everything, but you really think Al Gore is the one to get us out of this mess?

BEHAR: Why not?

HASSELBECK: What's his plan to keep us safe other than, in terms of the evironment?

BEHAR: He has a plan, read the book. He has a lot of plans in that book.

HASSELBECK: I’m sure he does.

BEHAR: He doesn't just criticize the president. He also criticizes the media. He says when we had that O.J. Simpson trial, he thought that was an aberration and we would not be so stupid as to be watching nonsense like that constantly, that CNN was constantly doing. But it's not an aberration.

HASSELBECK: Isn't he using the media to promote his books and films?

BEHAR: And we watch "Dancing with the Stars" instead of dealing with what’s going on--

HASSELBECK: No, not instead of, not instead of. You can watch “Dancing with the Stars” and also watch a lot of things that pertain to world politics, news safety, etcetera, absolutely.

BEHAR: How many people watched him speak on CNN? I’d like to know.

HASSELBECK: It’s called Tivo.

BEHAR: I’m just wondering.

SHEPHERD: I'm sorry. I wanted to see Laila and Apollo, but I did.

HASSELBECK: I don't think you're a bad person.

BEHAR: I'm not saying you're a bad person. I'm just saying nobody is interested.

HASSELBECK: People are interested. They just can do it on their own time. We’re in a situation now where technology allows us to do it.

BEHAR: We need to be furious. This country needs to be furious with what's going on.

[Applause]

HASSELBECK: It's called the election. You have- here is your opportunity, okay. You have, we’re a democratic society, you have the election in 2008 to change things.

BEHAR: Do you know how much damage this guy can do in a year and a half? He can invade Iran for all I know.

HASSELBECK: With Congress now as is?

BEHAR: Congress cannot pass anything because he, he vetoes it and they can't override it because his cronies in the Republican party stick by this president for political reasons.

[applause]

HASSELBECK: They stick by him for not demanding a pullout date for the troops, which is essentially saying to your enemies, I don’t know any team out there. I don’t have any strategy that says-

BEHAR: He doesn't have a plan.

HASSELBECK: -Here is the date that we are going to leave.

ROSIE O’DONNELL: To our enemies?

HASSELBECK: To our enemies, this is when we are going to pull out.

O’DONNELL: The enemies in Iraq?

HASSELBECK: Al Qaeda.

O’DONNELL: Wait, the enemies in Iraq?

HASSELBECK: Al Qaeda.

BEHAR: He didn’t even go after Osama Bin Laden when he was supposed to.

O’DONNELL: Elisabeth did, wait Joy. You just said our enemies in Iraq. Did Iraq attack us?

HASSELBECK: No. I'm saying Al Qaeda which is in Iraq.

O’DONNELL: Okay did Iraq talk us, Elisabeth?

HASSELBECK: Iraq did not attack us Rosie.

O’DONNELL: Correct.

HASSELBECK: We've been there before. I'm saying our enemies, Al Qaeda, are you hearing that?

O’DONNELL: I hear it. But where do you want to go?

BEHAR: This is a political discussion. Don’t interview each other. Just say what you mean.

HASSELBECK: If you're playing a game, okay, if you’re playing a game and I'm going to say okay I'm going to throw to my wide receiver, wide right, okay. Do you do that- what does it do for your enemy? It gives them time to plan.

O’DONNELL: If the enemy are innocent civilians, I don't want to play that kind of football.

[applause]

HASSELBECK: The enemy are not innocent civilians.

O’DONNELL: Iraq did not attack us!

BEHAR: Don’t yell at each other. Please let’s have a conversation.

O’DONNELL: You know why I don’t want to do this, Joy? Let me tell you why I don't want to do this. Because it here’s how it gets spun in the media: Rosie, big, fat, lesbian loud Rosie attacks innocent, pure, Christian Elisabeth.

BEHAR: Wait a minute. You don’t have to, let me do it!

HASSELBECK: I haven’t heard that line. Listen, I think it's unfair.

O’DONNELL: You should watch some of the shows you don't watch.

HASSELBECK: You accused me of watching all of those shows yesterday.

BEHAR: I’m okay arguing with Elisabeth.

O’DONNELL: You're just as sensitive when I’m hurt as I am when you were. Every time you were hurt, did I reach out to you?

BEHAR: Why is this personal? There's a war going on out there. It's not personal.

SHEPHERD: You know, this is why I like watching "Dancing with the Stars." This is exactly why.

[Applause]

HASSELBECK: I just don't understand why it's my fault if people spin words that you put out there or phrases that suggest things. And I gave you a opportunity, two days ago, to clarify the statement that got you in trouble on all those issues.

O’DONNELL: That, that got me in trouble. As a friend, you gave me the opportunity. That was very sweet of you. What I was asking is you, who actually knows me, do you believe I think our troops are terrorists, Elisabeth?

HASSELBECK: I don't think that you --

O’DONNELL: Yes or no?

HASSELBECK: I don’t believe that you–

O’DONNELL: Do you believe that, yes or no?

HASSELBECK: Excuse me. Let me speak.

O’DONNELL: You're going to double speak. It's just a yes or no.

HASSELBECK: I am not a double speaker and I don't put suggestions out there that lead people to think things and then not answer my own question.

O’DONNELL: I have a question to you and you didn't answer it.

HASSELBECK: I don't believe that you believe troops are terrorists. I have said that before. But when you say something like 650,000 Iraqis are dead, we invaded them.

O’DONNELL: It's true.

HASSELBECK: Let me finish, “who are the terrorist?”

O’DONNELL: You don't like the facts.

HASSELBECK: I'm all about facts. You know that. You tell me not to use facts because you want me to go only on emotion. Guess what? I like facts.

O’DONNELL: You cherry pick the facts you like.

BEHAR: Did I or did I not give this panel a list of facts?

[Applause]

SHEPHERD: And you know what? Oh my gosh! We're going to be right back with Alicia Silverstone!

[applause]

O’DONNELL: No, no, no we're not. Because we have a lot more time.

BEHAR: If you want to change the subject, that's something.

HASSELBECK: People were criticizing you for saying that because it suggested-

BEHAR: Oh, my God!

HASSELBECK: I said take your opportunity now. You have a show right now to tell the world --

O’DONNELL: I did take my opportunity to tell the world. I wanted to know what people like you, but you are my friend, since September, do you believe that I think our troops are terrorists? And you would not even look me in the face, Elisabeth, and say no, Rosie.

HASSELBECK: What are you talking about?

O’DONNELL: “I can understand how people are would have thought that, why don't you take this opportunity” like I'm six.

HASSELBECK: Because you are an adult and I'm certainly not going to be the person for you to explain your thoughts to. They're your thoughts. Defend your own insinuations.

[applause]

O’DONNELL: I defend my thoughts.

HASSELBECK: Defend your own thoughts.

O’DONNELL: Right, but every time I defend them, Elisabeth, it's poor little Elisabeth that I'm picking on.

HASSELBECK: You know what? Poor little Elisabeth is not poor little Elisabeth.

O’DONNELL: That's right. That's why I'm not going to fight with you anymore because it's absurd. So for three weeks you can say all the Republican crap you want.

HASSELBECK: It's much easier to fight someone like Donald Trump, isn’t it? Because he’s obnoxious.

O’DONNELL: I've never fought him. He fought me. I told a fact about him --

BEHAR: How did I get out of this conversation? I was in the middle of this conversation.

HASSELBECK: I gave you an opportunity to clarify.

O’DONNELL: You didn’t give me anything. You don't have to give me. I asked you a question.

HASSELBECK: I asked you a question.

O’DONNELL: And you wouldn’t even answer it.

HASSELBECK: You wouldn’t even answer your own question.

O’DONNELL: Oh Elisabeth, I don’t want- you know what? You really don't understand what I'm saying?

HASSELBECK: I understand what you're saying.

BEHAR: Let's go. Come on that’s it!

[Applause]

HASSELBECK: I think it's sad. I think it’s sad because I don't understand how there can be such hurt feelings when all I did way say, “look, why don't you tell everybody what you said?” I did that as a friend

O’DONNELL: All you did is not defend me. I asked you if you believe that I thought--

HASSELBECK: You didn't answer your own question. I don’t believe that you’re defending-

O’DONNELL: Elisabeth, every day since September I have told you I support the troops.

HASSELBECK: I have done the same for you.

O’DONNELL: I asked you if you believed what the Republican pundits were saying.

HASSELBECK: Did I say yes?

O’DONNELL: You said nothing and that's cowardly.

HASSELBECK: No, no, no. Do not, do not call me a coward. Because number one, I sit here every single day and open my heart and tell people exactly what I believe. Do not call me a coward, Rosie. I do not hide. I was not cowardly. It was honest.

O’DONNELL: It was.

HASSELBECK: What is cowardly?

BEHAR: Is there no commercial on this show?

[Applause]

HASSELBECK: Asking, asking, I'll tell you what's cowardly. Asking a rhetorical question that you never answer yourself.

BEHAR: Who is directing this show? Let's go to commercial. Let’s go to commercial.

HASSELBECK: I need a drink of water. Let’s go to commercial.

BEHAR: Man oh man.

SHEPHERD: How is the baby? Is the baby-

HASSELBECK: The baby's fine.

—Ken Shepherd is Managing Editor of NewsBusters

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....................................................HOLY CRAP!!!!

Hasselbeck gets knocked up and suddenly she's this aggressive she-bear!  If her finally becoming assertive has anything to do with maternal instinct, who wants to help me buy her a puppy?  Or ten.

20

I'm in for 20.

Hoo-yah Elizabeth!

Gotta be the hormones kicking in.....   

I've been one of Elizabeth's biggest critics, but Mama Elizabeth, you rock!  

You can tell the "poor

You can tell the "poor little Elisabeth" thing really gets under her skin and she's tired of people looking at her as the little lamb that's no match for Rosie. Rosie obviously thinks she's smarter than Elisabeth.

Maybe Rosie will leave earlier than expected?

"...she's tired of peopl

"...she's tired of people looking at her as the little lamb that's no match for Rosie."

Elisabeth needs to get a little fire under her.  For example, when Rosie said "First time fire melts steel" that was a perfect example for a Rosie smackdown.  Elisabeth should have immediately piped up and said "What do you think a blacksmith does? Why don't you shut your piehole and put your brain in gear?"

Well, I don't know if Elisa

Well, I don't know if Elisabeth wouldn't have taken THAT direction :-).

I also think it's stupid that Rosie was mad at Elisabeth for not backing her up or whatever on the troop comment. Rosie herself won't explain herself (at least not on the clips I've seen), so how could Elisabeth? One clear, concise explanation, that's all it would have taken.

When the gasbag talks like th

When the gasbag talks like this he/she really needs to be looking in a mirror...

I'll put it as civil as I can when I say rosie (and behar) is an absolute lying sack of sh*t...

Ok, first of all Ken...you

Ok, first of all Ken...you owe me four minutes of my life back. And secondly I knew liberalism made you ugly on the inside but apparently it manifests outwardly too. One conservative = attractive / 3 libs = udderly unattractive...I'm just saying...

The man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an argument.

John Derbyshire pointed out

John Derbyshire pointed out the law of conservative attractiveness a long time ago.

I'm thinking maybe Elizabeth is listing to HER netroots (us) and is finally realizing she has some fans.

Be sure to get your daily Fred Thompson Fact!

Spanish Soap

You know if you turn down your sound and turn up a spanish language radio station, it almost like watching a Latin soap opera.

loll....

loll....

You can always tell when a li

You can always tell when a lib gets that sinking feeling as they're suddenly realizing the truth...

It's a river in Egypt:)...

Holy sh*t.  Can this be for

Holy sh*t.  Can this be for real?  Is Rosie O'Donnell saying that "the media" is spinning her words?  She has her own d*mn show!!  She is "the media"!!!  All we have to do is rewind and playback her ignorant, racist, sexist and treasonous comments.  We all know what she's been saying, coming right from her huge, disgusting mouth, and then she wants to turn around and pretend like it was someone else who's been saying those things??

This is the level of insanity that we've reached.  God help us all.

Let just be thankful the medi

Let just be thankful the media is not telling us that Rosie is a perfect exsample of a Troop supporter, although I fear it's coming.

Grand Canyon

Bwwaaaaaahahahahahahah!  Elizabeth laid the smacketh!  Shut up, Rosie.  You washed(?) up, angry tranny in training.

As for you, Elizabeth.  Nice cleavage!

Islam should have it's religious status revoked until it can prove it's not a hate group.

Way to go Elisabeth, kick that fat rosie pig to the curb

Way to go Elisabeth. Yell as loudly as the fat pig gasbag liar, just as she does to everyone else.

I hope all the republicans who have said the wilting flower Elisabeth is not worth a damn, admit that this is the worst face to face a** kicking Rosie has ever taken from anyone on national television.

 Yes, I do believe that is correct. Any examples to the contrary would be welcome, but I doubt they'ell be coming.

Sporto, I was one of them and

Sporto, I was one of them and today, I take it back. To paraphrase Nike, "It's gotta be the womb. . .gotta be the womb." 

EH is all right in my book.  I think a few more a**kickings are in order here.

-PJ

"Trake: Your lofty convictions are another blemish on the rump of congregational sectarianism." -Tumbler 5/15/07 

She'd better keep it up thoug

She'd better keep it up though.

You've got to hand it to Rosi

You've got to hand it to Rosie.  She did get the "big, fat lesbian, loud" part right.

You know if it were reversed

You know if it were reversed and Elizabeth was saying, "poor me, I'm a Christian and a conservative", Rosie would eat her for lunch and say that's no excuse. Rosie is the last person who should be playing the victim card considering that no one in the mainstream media or on the show itself attacks her or her beliefs.

Dutch

I think Rosie subscribes to t

I think Rosie subscribes to the "any publicity is good publicity" philosophy.  Just keep 'em talking about you.

Wow

I think I have fallen in love tihe the Joseph Technicolor Dreamcoat dress wearing lady.

When Hasselbeck: was asked by O'donnel if she thought O'donnel said our troups were terrorists she should have simply said yep. Debate is impossible with willfull ignorance of fact.

football

I agree. The Joseph Technicolor Dreamcoat dress wearing lady did a great job and she did it using a football analogy.

Just the two captions side by

Just the two captions side by side say it all.

You're totally right, bigtime

You're totally right, bigtimer.  The caps are perfect.

Finally Rosie getting the med

Finally Rosie getting the medicine she has so richly deserved. Behar is right to stay out of it, because it looks like Elizabeth could take on both of them.

Behar had it made.  With Ros

Behar had it made.  With Rosie running her mouth, Behar just has to sit there.  I think sometimes she's asleep.  Sometimes she sits there with a look like "Where am I?"

Okay, okay, I got it all figu

Okay, okay, I got it all figured out now. The big fat LESBIAN is hot for the chick with the nice rack. Chick-with-nice-rack won't give fat lesbian the time of day. Ergo, the fat lesbian picks a fight with hot chick to feel better about herself. Right? Am I close?

Rosie was right.  She is a f

Rosie was right.  She is a fat lesbian . . . but she's also correct about Hasselbeck.  Elisabeth couldn't think or articulate her way out of a paper bag.  If she's the voice of conservatism, heaven help us. 

Yeah, but she's better than most

Yeah, but she's better than most, and certainly not worse. There aren't many now who can even wage a decent argument publicly. Really, those on TV are pathetic.

 Dick Cheney does a great job, but they hate him.

Rumsfeld whipped the lib press daily, but they hated him, now he's canned.

 Most of the current facetime pundit republicans miss most of the argument nearly all of the time, and the congressional republicans aren't any better.

 Christopher Hitchens is the best for the republican side - when he's on it. There isn't a common pundit republican close to his abilities. Same for his pieces in Salon, proving Bush was correct and truthful in the 16 words.

 It's a sad fact that the current republicans have no idea how to present the facts in public debate, and especially destroy the democrats lies which are nearly every time they open their mouth, with easily recalled countering facts. They just don't do it.

 Hitchens does. Cheney does too, even recalling the facts off the top of his head.

 

Sport...I was wondering if yo

Sport...

I was wondering if you saw this and were around....

LOL!

I'm leaving it at that....you already know how I feel.

:-) BT

Thanks for thinking of me. lol

Elisabeth, I sure hope it is pregnancy hormones, because we're in for 9 months of ocassional treats then.

At least someone has finally yelled back at the cows face. I believe it is a first.

I will say this Sport, she (E

I will say this Sport, she (Elizabeth) seems to have gotten a lot better with her resposes to the fat slob Rosie O that I have heard on here so far anyway....that is when she can get a word in edge-wise...lol.

bt,It would be fun, though h

bt,

It would be fun, though highly unlikely, if Hasselbeck brought an airhorn to trigger during Rhino O'Donnell's tirades. I think that would overpower her voice - er - maybe.

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Hi Chris...In answer to the a

Hi Chris...

In answer to the airhorn that would be deliciously fun because it would at least blow out that one brain cell Rosie has left floating around that vast empty space between her ears out of one of them!

LOL....

Republican Hater Is Normally Offensive

Of course by "Rhino," you mean: "Republican Hater Is Normally Offensive," right?

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

Hero,No, in this case, by &q

Hero,

No, in this case, by "Rhino", I literally meant a large and aggressive beast. :)

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

SP,That's been my complaint f

SP,

That's been my complaint for years. Republican politicians just don't think fast enough in a debate. They don't give, tit for tat. I don't think it's because they're dumb, they just don't seem to have the ability (or the desire) to quickly counter Liberal's phony facts or outrageous comments, they seem to content to let them hang out there as an accepted truth. Most Republican politicians come off as bean-counting nerds in debates...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Chris:It's because they're po

Chris:

It's because they're politicians first, Republican second, and (semi)-conservative last. They always think of self-interests and election, even if they just got elected. Remember the retirement bill- the more time they spend in DC, the bigger their retirement check. That's why nobody support to can that bill.

On the other hand, Elizabeth and conservatives like us has no qualms voicing our opinions (besides being truthful and factual), because we don't spend millions to get elected. These RINOs in DC will not waste their $, just to get booted out the next election. They try to be careful on what they say making sure their constituents are still with them...Most of our politicians are millionaires- Republicans or Democracks alike.

Chris and Chief

I'm not sure exactly what it is, but I suspect it is being overwhelmingly outnumbered - surrounded by liberals in the bureaucracies as long as Teddy Kennedy has been drunk, and the obvious hatred the news people, almost all the presses, and all the reporters have for republicans.

 So, they show up in a hostile environment ( something the very libs surrounding them claim makes working impossible ) - then if they do deliver, they recieve death threat phonecalls and emails by the boatload, and probably have their families lives, spouse and children threatened as well, and are labelled as a war monger, or a racist, or a xtian zealout, or whatever the press will call them afterwards.

 So, I don't think it is neccessarily getting re-elected, but something much more current and to the moment.

 I just finished watching about 20 archived Mcglauphlin Group video shows at their website. The libs are hostile, angry, reflexive liars filled with rage and hatred, and will tell any lie they feel, and turn the whole charade into a dumbed down ignorant hate filled joke.

On almost every issue discussed, the republican viewpoint and the facts are never given. It's a constant battle to talk with angry interrupting and yelling liberals who spin their lies like breathing air.

 The republicans are polite, and pretend the liberals have the right to their opinion, and say so. The rules are simply don't personally insult "me". So, there's a kind of already watered down nonsense discussion that goes on, and republicans pretend everyone else's opinion is ok, because if they don't the lib goes into a rage screaming they have a right to think and say what they want.

 There are some strange rules where you want others you're talking about to show respect and be perfect and then you criticize and twist everything you can about them, but that's ok. That's called " doing a good job ". It's "being political".

 So, until someone brings back the standard of being intelligent, correct and well informed, the exciting moronic smear talk politics will be all there is, and liberals can "win" when that's the game.

 Republicans will not be as rude and hateful and full of disgust and rage and show it, but the liberals will, so that's what they do. We see this type of rule from republicans themselves all the time.

 If you begin to notice, a republican will sometimes get angry, and break their rule, and "let loose" on one of the liberals. When they do, usually, out comes a list of facts and the actual refutation of the liberals idiot argument. I've seen it go for months until some republican snaps, then I realize they have known what I've known for a long time, but none of them dared say it.

It's "impolite" to prove what moronic lying turds liberals are normally, I guess.

 

Elisabeth

CWG, give Elisabeth some credit. Sounds to me like she is finally had enough of Wosie O'Dumber and has kept her composure about her - until now!  

'Atta girl, Liz - DON'T LET UP ON THAT OBNOXIOUS, OBSCENE, AND OVERWEIGHT LESBO!

Still hoping against hope that Baba Wawa will can Wosie's fat, lazy behind sooner than the end of June.

Never dance on an empty stomach unless is a liberal lesbo.  

Sorry Golden-Chris has it exa

Sorry Golden-Chris has it exactly right in his post above.  That "650,000 dead Iraqis" has been floating around in the liberal playbook for a helluva long time.  It stays there even though it is dead wrong because no one has the intelligence or savvy or balls (I know this one doesn't describe Elisabeth)  to call people on it.  All Rosie's shouting and ranting could have easily been de-railed by just asking her for her source on the casualty number.  Something like "where did you get that number?" or "do you have an objective source for those statistics?" would have worked just fine.  No need for Elisabeth to even raise her voice.  My guess is that she didn't know any better than Rosie that the number is super-inflated propaganda. . . . . . . IN FACT THE LEFT HAS BEEN USING THAT HYPER-INFLATED 650,000 NUMBER FOR SO LONG, THAT BY THEIR OWN COUNT IT SHOULD NOW BE CLOSER TO A MILLION.

A clarification

CWG, bro, you're missing my point. What I am saying that it's about time Elisebeth starting fighting back. She may not be where the Obnoxious One is at this point but at least she is coming out of her conservative shell and showing a little bit of backbone.

I agree with many that she should have been doing this a long time ago instead of letting that fat lesbo walk all over her.

The fat lesbo

The fat lesbo walks all over every one of them, not just Elisabeth.

 I will disagree about Elisabeth not knowing the real number, because she is a lot smarter than the vast majorities impression. She argued against the standard republican line about Imus on H & C, and did a fine job, it pissed off plenty of lesser thinkers in the republican ranks. In fact she had her own original arguments and counterpoints, never before heard on the tube, and she was correct.

 She almost always shuts up when fatso yells, which is 99% of the time, but then there's 3 hostiles there, and the the entire audience, and probably the entire crew.

 It's one against the whole room.

 You see above what happens when someone openly opposes the pig and doesn't back down. The two others got up and pretended to leave for a joke. That should show what refuting the pig brings. The pig can do it, every day, but noone else is allowed.

"The more I watch, the m

"The more I watch, the more I think she simply doesn't know..."

That's her biggest problem. She doesn't really know or understand much about anything, but that doesn't stop her from shooting her mouth off, bulldozing over just about everyone else around... and so the melt-down continues...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

It's inevitable. Soon, the

It's inevitable. Soon, the phrase "rosie o'donnel" will be defined in medical dictionaries world wide as some sort of incureable mental disorder. It will be in the same category as liberalism and BDS.

CKC, It's already out there.

CKC, It's already out there. I've noticed that from my MPA professors. Believe me, its incurable indeed!

Ken Shepherd: how about doing a follow-up on this?

Ken Shepherd:  how about doing a follow-up on this?

I bet the Rosie-lovers on the leftist moonbat sites are squeaking furiously about now.   Wouldn't it be fun to tap into that?     ;^>

Dangerous job, tapping into t

Dangerous job, tapping into those vats of acid...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

"He withdrew us from fro

"He withdrew us from from the Kyoto treaty".

Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Congress vote this down 96-0 during Clinton's term? If I am right, then we were never a part of the Kyoto Protocol.

(Btw, sorry if this doesn't post corrcetly. I am still trying to figure out how to do this.)

Absolutely - rosie and behar

Absolutely - rosie and behar are typical left-wing liars about everything...

Most of the things Behar clai

Most of the things Behar claims should be cause for impeachment are things I applaud him for. Continuing Clinton's rejection of Kyoto being one of them.

*****

"Was it a millionaire who said 'Imagine no possessions?'" - Elvis Costello

Yikes

God, that was painful to watch and even more painful to read.

OMG, people still watch the

OMG, people still watch the View?!

Hey, I only watched the clip.

Hey, I only watched the clip. I'd be in intensive care if I'd actually watched the show...

ENOUGH! That's it!I am shav

ENOUGH! That's it!

I am shaving my legs, getting a summer dress, blond wig,some high heels and marching down to the View! I'll tie up Liz in the green room and go on as her double.

WELCOME TO HELL ROSIE AND JOY!!!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

MM,You go guy!Btw...I just ga

MM,

You go guy!

Btw...I just gat a chance to watch and listen to the clip....I would love to be there opposite her...love to.

hehe, of course Im just kid

hehe, of course Im just kidding bt, Liz has much nicer legs then me:-)

I just can't believe they still bring up the tired old "Bush's 7 minutes while the trade center burns" again and again.

Only thing they missed was a Katrina reference. Sheesh what losers.

<edit> doh, I just looked back and there WAS a Katrina reference! double sheesh

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

Yes that's expert MM

That's an expert answer in the demolib dogma MM. They have a very long list of grievances and complaints that they have coddled and nurtured into full grown monsters. If you listen to a lib or any democrat for a full hour they will repeat them all, and think they've won the debate on everything.

1. disaster ( applies to Bush, Iraq, the administration, Katrina, foreign policy, usa diplomacy, how the world percieves us, no child left behind, the foreign trade deficit, the ecomony, jobs, the rich vs poor, outsourcing, Bush's speaking abilities, Walter Reed, Bush envirnmental policies, adinfinitum. Just say so and such is a disaster, and as a lib you've won the debate.

 So they have this huge list where "the debate is already settled" - so they just add flavorful adjectives and mention anything, and add the word or insinuation "Bush".

It's pure complaining, and 100% all complaint.

 You could listen to any one of them for weeks, and you would never learn a single thing, except how much they disapprove of Bush. That's it. They throw in Rove or Cheney about once every 100 complaints.

They really are sickly obssessed morons.

When it comes time to talk about anything with knowledge, they haven't got even the basic facts down. They're just as dumb and often dumber than they claim Bush is. They are total zeros.

There are a few exceptions, like David Korn for instance, but he even plays the idiot smear moron half the time, then smirks after he does it. I'll give him credit, because at least he knows he's just f'in off then. The problem is when he writes or talks, he makes an elaborate lie, that's when he's trying to be serious.

The rest take their smears and idiocies seriously, never cracking a smile, but deliver them often with venom and a raised voice or loud angry tone as their entire argument. Let's face it, if you are a democrat today, it is a MUST DO every time you speak. It is not within policy to do otherwise because then you'd have to actually make some kind of point or impart some kind of knowledge.

 They're all actually mentally deranged now. They all need a psychiatrist and a reprogramming.

You said a mouth full there

You said a mouth full there sport! And I agree, everytime I hear the dem talking points come out of some ditzy mouth like Rosie or Joy I do an immediate giant eye roll and actually feel a little sorry for the person speaking. The "bush sat for 7 minutes" talking point still drives me crazy when I hear it!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

I can't watch the clip wi

I can't watch the clip with sound till 5PM, I'm making sure no one steals anything -- like copy paper or paper clips.

With the speakers off:

Liz 10,000,000,000

Rosie 0

HEY!  You don't understand.

HEY!  You don't understand.  The street value of paper clips has sky rocketed recently ...

Behar: I'm just saying somet

Behar: I'm just saying something is wrong in this country when we are continuing to support this administration.

Sorry, but I found THIS the most offensive remark of the whole exchange. When has B-hole EVER supported this administration?

Right about now, Joy is probably thinking, "My goodness! When Rosie leaves will Elizabeth kick my @ss?!?"

When libs can't win an argument they always, ALWAYS resort to name calling! They ALWAYS play the victim card!

Sick. Sick. Sick.

Way to go Elizabeth!!!I don't

Way to go Elizabeth!!!

I don't understand why Rosie will not answer the question and set the record straight when Elizabeth asked her  "Do you think our troops are terrorists?" .  Using Rosie's own words..."It's a Yes or No answer."  As Rosie said she is not 6 years old.  So if you are not 6 years old Rosie, answer the question.  Defend yourself EITHER WAY.  Why should she leave defending herself up to Elizabeth?  I don't understand her thinking on this.

Lostone

lostone

Look, it's pretty clear the fat pig believes the troops via Bush are the real terrorists, and many on the looney left say so. Fat pig just can't say so flat out, and if Elisabeth said she thinks fat pigs believes that, the pig would just claim for that moment she doesn't.

 The fat pig believes in the inside job, and opened her fat yap and blogged about it, but was too much a coward to openly admit it all, and only peeked her gawker out of the closet door before it slammed shut on her snout.

 She blamed 650,000 deaths on Bush and our military, so you know off the bat she's insane. Elisabeth pointed at her and said " And who killed those 650,000 ?" and the fat pig never answered. Elisabeth asked again, and fatso ranted on about something, never answering a second time.

 These traitor USA haters are all over the place in our midst. I'm not sure how much of it is a game for their party of freaks and liars and oucasts for the moment, but rest assured they have no intention of ever being honest in any of it.

 If you hear one shrieking that they've been silenced, you can nearly be sure they're a conspiracy 911 freak.

 It's not just Bush admin. silencing them, but they will claim it is. They really know though that they will be called cuckoo by the masses, and that's why they feel silenced. They often cannot completely "out" themselves by openly proclaiming they think it was an inside job by Bush and his evil oil war mongering total takeover cabal.

 This is also part of the reason why they are so filled with venom and hatred.  He's getting away with it, he's gotten away with, we must stop the Iraq war, and put a stop to his evil hidden plan, by any means.

According to the last poll I saw, that is up to 54% of the current democrat party, with a full 35% convinced of it. This is what explains BDS. They think it's all going on right now, and they haven't stopped it.

Why is it we never hear an

Why is it we never hear an end to the "We're being silenced" shouting? When can we get the silence part? The "silenced" Michael Moore has almost finished production on another anti-Bush movie. Rosie O'D. is still in front of cameras and microphones even if it's not on "The View". A whole chorus of anti-Bush rhetoric is heard or read daily and I haven't heard of anyone disappearing because of any of it.

Lee T.

U.S. Navy (ret.) / Vancouver, Washington

The history of the race, and each individual's experience, are thick with evidence that a truth is not hard to kill and that a lie told well is immortal.-- Mark Twain

The show does point out one v

The show does point out one very important item - being smart, being intelligent, knowing facts, having an understanding of current history (never mind anything before 1950), all of these are NOT necessary, or I dare say, required, to be a tv host or personallity. (we can include most politicians, actors, and the so-called "journalists" of the msm (Lsm) ). The saddest part is that most american tv watchers have no clue that what is being "fed" to them, is not based on fact, but opinion, disguised as truth.

There is no sense in being stupid, if you can't prove it! - my dad V

HASSELBECK: You know what? Po

HASSELBECK: You know what? Poor little Elisabeth is not poor little Elisabeth.

O’DONNELL: That's right. That's why I'm not going to fight with you anymore because it's absurd. So for three weeks you can say all the Republican crap you want.

So now Rosie refuses to fight because Elizabeth is fighting back? Rosie only wants to fight when Elizabeth won't stand up for herself? When confronted with facts or called out properly on your inconsistencies it becomes absurd to fight?

Rosie is a bully and a coward.

"Believe what you want. You work your side of the street, and I'll work mine." --Frank Bullitt

Mean Gene...You hit the nail

Mean Gene...

You hit the nail on the head...but hear me out...

Rosie IS a bully and a coward, usually happens that way, right?  A bully tries to attack someone that seems weak, because they are too afraid to challenge someone that may be strong.

BUT...can anyone see the irony here?  We spend billions of dollars buying books, medicine and on getting therapy for our kids...we teach them not to judge a book by its cover, we teach them to listen to what other people have to say, we teach them to be fair, honest, respectful...and what do we see every single day??

Politicians lying to our faces.  CEO's of multi-billion dollar companies stealing money.  Teachers having sex with their students.  Crooked cops.  Crooked attornies.  Crooked judges. 

My point is, it's like people never grow up.  Rosie is undeniably ignorant; she's a racist, a sexist, a traitor and a bully.  We have all of it on tape, Rosie, so don't try to tell us that "the media is spinning my words..."  We all know what you think...err, what comes out of your mouth (I wouldn't say any thinking is done prior to the word ejection)  We're all witnesses to this ignorance and denial...she flat out refuses, or does not have the information/ability/guts to answer Elisabeth's straightforward question...all she does is yell louder, deny more, and try to put the burden of proof on Elisabeth.  

This stuff would just be a moot point (it's Rosie O'Donnell, for God's sake)..., if it weren't such a perfect example of the same type of ignorance, manipulation and denial that the MSM engages in on a daily basis!!  HELLO, BIG Al!!  Isn't he the king of, "don't question me!!!!  This is a concensus....I'm being louder than you now!!! Get those cameras out of here!!!"  These people think that they can just talk over and ignore questions to their legitimacy...WE CAN"T LET THESE PEOPLE OFF OF THE HOOK!!! 

This is a sickness, an epidemic, and it needs to be stopped.

I get tired of hearing the &q

I get tired of hearing the "I support the troops!" stuff coming from someone like O'Donnell.  The role of the troops is to kill people and blow things up... to wage war... not to just sit around and look tough.  If you really support the troops you also have to support their mission as that's their reason for being.  There's no way you can support the troops but not their mission because supporting the troops enables them to perform their mission better.  All this "we support the troops" BS stems from the flack Liberals took for abusing our troops after Vietnam, and the new Libs are afraid of getting tarred with the same brush.  O'Donnell can proclaim how much she supports the troops all she wants, but none of her words or actions support that claim.

What I found most interesting was how Behar was flipping out.  That woman seemed to be on the verge of a full-blown panic attack.  I wonder if Walters left her in charge while she was gone, and the real behind-the-scenes marching orders are to keep O'Donnell from embarassing herself and the show any worse than she already has.  Behar was definately wanting to shut O'Donnell up as quickly as possible.  Her offer to debate Elisabeth showed she wasn't concerned about what she was saying, but she wanted a gag on O'Donnell, and I'm guessing that guidance had to have come from Walters.

Bruzilla...Exactly.  Rosie i

Bruzilla...

Exactly.  Rosie in no way, shape or form supports our troops.  Every day she undermines them, disrespects them, lies about them, and TRIES to make jokes at their expense.  This woman should forever be known as a traitor, as an enemy to the American people, and as a war criminal. 

Lastly...

How funny is Rosie's comment to Elisabeth about having the floor to herself for three weeks?  It's like, "ya, go ahead Elisabeth and enjoy talking all of your Republican mumbo jumbo Georgie Porgie-Oil-War-Money-Catholics-no abortions-money for the rich-immigration-fake terrorism....AHHHHHHH!!"...then her head explodes like a fem-bot in Austin Powers.  She is so freakin ignorant and flat-out dumb that her success in life must be an aberration...or just more proof that COMEDIANS, ACTORS AND MUSICIANS DON'T KNOW SH*T ABOUT REAL LIFE!!!!

jpatch, Rosie might just do t

jpatch, Rosie might just do that- listen and not talk until she departs. She could get emaducated and hopefully get converted to conservatism ideology just before she leaves...that's the time I'll watch the show. Not! 

THESE WOMEN ARE SO ILL-INFORM

THESE WOMEN ARE SO ILL-INFORMED. Butttt, its about time Elizabeth spoke up........

why couldn't hasslebeck have

why couldn't hasslebeck have just said "yes" i think you believe the troops are terrorists rosie, you say so everytime you mention 650,000 iraqi deaths ...

rosie lives in her own world ... she's a total nut job slob ... the meltdown is just around the corner

behar has got to be one of the dumbest people i've ever seen speak on television ... the fact that this woman is employed at all is amazing. 

I am almost convinced that 'R

I am almost convinced that 'Rosie Oh' hates blonde, femanine, heterosexual women more than she hates the United States.

I am almost convinced that 'R

oops

I never watch the show-can't

I never watch the show-can't take the shrill sounds.

 But I read about it here everyday, thank you. 

Today was the first time I actually laughed at the keyboard!

Go,Elizabeth! Harpoon that whale!

I do think there is something to the idea that Rosie has the hotts for E. Put a picture of E. by Rosie's Kelli-you can see there is a (slight) resemblence .

I don't know why everybody picks on Rosie--

I don't know why everybody picks on Rosie--I admit  almost everything she says is stupid or biased but I still think she's FLABulous!!!

Rosie's self-description omit

Rosie's self-description omits:

"stupid, ugly"

Talk about her disinformation......

Rosie is typical for her kind

Rosie is typical for her kind. This is what they do. They seek to control their 'friends', and when they cannot control them, they blame them.  Rosie's idea of a friend is someone who, when she says, "Jump," the friend says, "How high?"

 ...Debra

Spot on! Rosie dismisses what

Spot on!

Rosie dismisses what she can't control. And she controls by shouting over others.

There is something freakishly wrong with Rosie actually demanding that Elizabeth defend Rosie's comments in any way, shape, or form.

The most important thing to a conservative is Truth.

The most important thing to a liberal is being liked.

All personal interactions between libs and conservatives stem from that.

Watched the video twice, just

Watched the video twice, just to make sure I was hearing this from an ABC channel. It's better than the democracks and republicans debate combined. Elizabeth cleaned Rosie big time. Rosie was a bully who retracted when somebody was going toe to toe with her. She looked defeated on this segment and I really hope that she'll "give the floor to Elizabeth for three weeks". Who knows, Rosie might get indoctrinated properly in Geopolitics 101.

I want to get tickets to th

I want to get tickets to the View to chant "ROOOOOOOOSIE!!! ROOOOOOOOOSIE!!!..........YOU SUCK ROSIE!!!" lol who's in!?

"Mass genocide is the most exhausting activity one can engage in, outside of
soccer." (Dogma)

I really wish this bloomin' i

I really wish this bloomin' idiot would just have her on air nervous breakdown already and get it the frak over with!!!  ABC should really have the guys in white coats on speed dial.

She played just about every liberal card she could in order to avoid the fact that her big fat mouth made a Freudian slip (They hate me because I'm fat ... becuase I'm a lesbian .... because I'm a bigmouth ... you didn't stand up for me as a friend ... blah, blah blah ... )  The "Victimhood" card fits much better on someone who doesn't come off as a massive, teeth-bearing, barking, junk yard dog.

YES, Rosie, you do think our troops are terrorists.  Your problem is you are pi$$ed sane people who are not your mind-numbed fans call you on this bullship you just let roll down from your cavernous skull and off your tongue like some hallow gumball.

Ms. O'Donnell shows just how

Ms. O'Donnell shows just how out of her league she is as she strays further from her veejay/comedienne/"I love my Tommy" past.  Either by choice or by aptitude, she is not equipped to delve into the realm of politics and current events, because she is demonstrably led around by her emotions.

Ms. Hasselbeck, on the other hand, seems more and more to acquit herself well.  I hope she continues to deal in facts, and continues to resist the temptation to be drawn down to Ms. O'Donnell's level of discourse; as is obvious, RosieWorld is a bitter, bellicose place.

--Mike

And jeepers, if you're going

And jeepers, if you're going to let yourself be led around by emotions, at least get worked up on the basis of FACTS, not the idiocies and unscientific conspiracies you pick up from a blog during the five minutes that you're waiting for your car in the morning. 

O’DONNELL: Elisabeth did,

O’DONNELL: Elisabeth did, wait Joy. You just said our enemies in Iraq. Did Iraq attack us?

Rosie, Rosie, Rosie, you poor sad fool. You can remember the Gulf Of Tonkin incident but you don't know anything about this?


U.S. Strikes Iraq for Plot to Kill Bush

Clinton, speaking in a televised address to the nation at 7:40 last night, said he ordered the attack to send three messages to the Iraqi leadership: "We will combat terrorism. We will deter aggression. We will protect our people."

Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving "compelling evidence" from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was "directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service."

"It was an elaborate plan devised by the Iraqi government and directed against a former president of the United States because of actions he took as president," Clinton said. Bush led the coalition that drove Iraq from Kuwait in the 1991 Persian Gulf War. "As such, the Iraqi attack against President Bush was an attack against our country and against all Americans," Clinton said.

Source:
Washington Post

By David Von Drehle and R. Jeffrey Smith
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, June 27, 1993; Page A01

Unless and until someone is a

Unless and until someone is allowed the time - without interruption - to debate R. O'D's so-called facts, "The View" will continue to be nothing more than a circle jerk for libs. Hasselbeck's attempt to tilt the agenda was perhaps well-intentioned. But her responses were weak, IMO.

*SMaK*Likewise *WhaP*HEH!!

*SMaK*

Likewise *WhaP*

HEH!!


Now, this might sting just a little bit.....

I threw up a little in my mou

I threw up a little in my mouth when I saw that bewitching chocolate devil sitting next to Rosie. I had, for a, moment, thought my dreams have come true, that Rosie AND Star would be sharing a stage (albeit barely)!

Alas, I was disappointed to find out it was just another fat, obnoxious slob. And a nice black woman sitting next to it.