Matt Lauer Hits John Edwards from the Left on Democratic 'Cave-In'

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By Geoffrey Dickens | May 23, 2007 - 10:59 ET

Updated with video below fold.

NBC's Matt Lauer spared no punches when he interviewed John Edwards on this morning's Today show, trouble is they were mostly left jabs. After a David Gregory report on the war funding bill, the Today co-host didn't waste any time launching into Edwards as he demanded to know why his fellow Democrats had to "cave-in."

Lauer: "David calls it a compromise, whatever we call it, let's talk about this deal that was struck in Congress. They, basically, the supplemental funding bill has 18 benchmarks the Iraqis have to hit on political progress, security, economic progress. Reports from the White House to Congress, July 15th, September 15th. But, and this is a big but, the headline here is no deadline for U.S. troops. Why did the Democrats cave-in?"

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Apparently not satisfied with Edwards' response Lauer, again repeated: "Why'd they cave-in then?" After that, Lauer, still pressing from the left, regurgitated Edwards' own talking points to him:

"Here's what you said recently: 'We need to stand our ground against this President. You can't negotiate with him. Congress should send the same bill back to him again and again,' and you're talking about that deadline-inclusive bill, 'until he realizes he has no choice but to start bringing our troops home. The funding power is the only way Congress can force Bush to end the war. If Congress gives him yet another blank check to fund the war, we're going to get what we've gotten every time before- yet another year of war.' Is this the case in point?"

Edwards: "It is! I mean the, the Congress needs to stand the ground against this President and force a change in policy. George Bush has shown over and over again that he's stubborn, that he's bull-headed, that he doesn't think he can do anything wrong. He will not change unless the Congress forces him to do it and they need to force him to do it."

Lauer did bring up the idea that violence will increase if the U.S. troops leave as he glumly noted: "We are doing a bad job there, in terms of stopping sectarian violence, but just by our presence we must be stopping some." But then Lauer returned to smacking Edwards from the left as he threw Barack Obama in his face:

"This, this is the issue of the, of the campaign right now. Let's face it. And, and I'm not trying to hand out gold stars and take gold stars away here. But, but why shouldn't a Senator Barack Obama be able to look at you and Senator Clinton and say look, 'When this was first discussed in 2002, I wasn't in the Senate but I spoke out against it. Senator Edwards voted for authorization. Senator Clinton voted for authorization. So on this paramount issue of, issue of paramount importance I had the best judgment.'"

Lauer then concluded the segment with a bit of liberal guilt-speak when he questioned Edwards on his credentials to talk about the "have-nots," when he, in fact, was a "have."

Lauer: "Another subject. There, there seems to be a bit of a growing PR problem in your campaign and it's this idea of two Americas. The, the 'haves' and the 'have-nots' and a candidate who is clearly a 'have,' who has multi-million dollar residences, who's, who's worked for, as an adviser, to a hedge fund and received about a half-a-million dollars in payments. Received a $40,000 honorarium or payment from a public university for sharing ideas on poverty. The haircut, we've all heard about. So how are you gonna change this perception that you aren't just a rich guy talking about poverty?"

The following is the full interview as it occurred on the May 23, Today show:

Matt Lauer: "Former Senator John Edwards is running for the Democratic presidential nomination. Today he's delivering a major speech at the Council on Foreign Relations on what he would do in Iraq and elsewhere. Senator, good to have you in the studio. Good morning."

John Edwards: "Glad to be with you, Matt."

Lauer: "David calls it a compromise, whatever we call it, let's talk about this deal that was struck in Congress. They, basically, the supplemental funding bill has 18 benchmarks the Iraqis have to hit on political progress, security, economic progress. Reports from the White House to Congress, July 15th, September 15th. But and this is a big but, the headline here is no deadline for U.S. troops. Why did the Democrats cave-in?"

Edwards: "Well the Democrats should be standing their ground. I mean the American people said very clearly in the last election that they wanted to see a different course in Iraq. They sent a mandate by putting the Democrats in charge of the Congress and it's very clear that George Bush has no intention to compromise. And what the Democrats need to do is to [stay] strong, stand their ground and continue-"

Lauer: "Why'd they cave-in then?"

Edwards: "Well I don't know. I mean, I think what they, what the American people wanted them to do was stand their ground, force this President to start withdrawing troops from Iraq and continue to submit bills to him with the timetable withdrawal."

Lauer: "Is, is it possible, Senator, this is all about the Democrats' fear that they'll be seen as unpatriotic and not supporting the troops?"

Edwards: "This should not be about politics at all, Matt. I mean we have men and women dying in Iraq. I was listening to your newscast just a few minutes ago. This is about life and death. This is about war. We have families who are sending young men and women over there to put their lives on the line. We need to stand our ground."

Lauer: "Here's what you said recently: 'We need to stand our ground against this President. You can't negotiate with him. Congress should send the same bill back to him again and again,' and you're talking about that deadline-inclusive bill, 'until he realizes he has no choice but to start bringing our troops home. The funding power is the only way Congress can force Bush to end the war. If Congress gives him yet another blank check to fund the war, we're going to get what we've gotten every time before- yet another year of war.' Is this the case in point?"

Edwards: "It is! I mean the, the Congress needs to stand the ground against this President and force a change in policy. George Bush has shown over and over again that he's stubborn, that he's bull-headed, that he doesn't think he can do anything wrong. He will not change unless the Congress forces him to do it and they need to force him to do it."

Lauer: "You're, you're gonna talk about your plan before the Council on Foreign Relations today and your plan includes 40 to 50,000 U.S. troops coming out immediately, the rest of the troops out by the end of the year and the critics say, and they're critics of not only your plan but similar plans, say that as the U.S. troops leave you're gonna hear a giant sucking sound and that's gonna be a vacuum. And it's gonna be created and the violence that we see now is gonna get larger and fill that vacuum and it could spill out throughout the region. How do you, how do you say that you're right and they're wrong?"

Edwards: "Well all of this doesn't depend on us, it depends on the Iraqis. It depends on what the Sunni and the Shia leadership do. If they can reach some political reconciliation."

Lauer: "Which they haven't."

Edwards: "They will, they have not, that will help squelch the violence. And the question is how do we shift the responsibility to them to reach a political solution?"

Lauer: "But you have to figure that just by our presence we are stopping. We are doing a bad job there, in terms of stopping sectarian violence, but just by our presence we must be stopping some. So if we take our troops out who's responsible for stopping that violence? The Iraqi's troops?"

Edwards: "Yeah, the Iraqis themselves. I mean we have to shift the pressure to them, Matt. That is what has not happened. They don't feel the heat, they're not reaching a political solution.. And can I just add, as we start to pull our combat troops out of Iraq we do need to maintain a presence in the region. I mean we're gonna need to keep troops in Kuwait. We need a naval presence in the Persian Gulf."

Lauer: "This, this is the issue of the, of the campaign right now. Let's face it. And, and I'm not trying to hand out gold stars and take gold stars away here. But, but why shouldn't a Senator Barack Obama be able to look at you and Senator Clinton and say look, 'When this was first discussed in 2002, I wasn't in the Senate but I spoke out against it. Senator Edwards voted for authorization. Senator Clinton voted for authorization. So on this paramount issue of, issue of paramount importance I had the best judgment.'"

Edwards: "Well I think the answer to that is I've said, very clearly, that I think my vote was wrong, I've taken responsibility for it. I hope that it indicates something about how I would lead as President of the United States. Openly, honestly, so that the American people know when I, when I believe I've made a mistake and change course. All of us are human. We've never had a president who wadn't [sic], we're never gonna have one idn't [sic] and we need to be able to have a President who will be honest and open with the country."

Lauer: "Another subject. There, there seems to be a bit of a growing PR problem in your campaign and it's this idea of two Americas. The, the 'haves' and the 'have-nots' and a candidate who is clearly a have, who has multi-million dollar residences, who's, who's worked for, as an adviser, to a hedge fund and received about a half-a-million dollars in payments. Received a $40,000 honorarium or payment from a public university for sharing ideas on poverty. The haircut, we've all heard about. So how are you gonna change this perception that you aren't just a rich guy talking about poverty?"

Edwards: "Well Matt I am a 'have,' there's no doubt about that. I mean it's not where I come from. I come from being a 'have-not.' But I've been lucky in my life and I'm a 'have,' now and if you look at what I've spent my life doing, just since the last election. I mean I've helped raise the minimum wage in six states, helped organize workers into unions all over this country. Started a college program for kids, who otherwise couldn't go to college. I've been all over the world doing humanitarian work."

Lauer: "So you're saying you can relate?"

Edwards: "Oh, oh I don't think there's any doubt about that and I think the American people will see that. They're gonna look at me. They're gonna judge me as a human being whether I have the characteristics, integrity, honesty, openness to be President of the United States. And whether it's specific things I want to do on issues like the war in Iraq, makes sense to them."

Lauer: "How's Mrs. Edwards feeling?"

Edwards: "She's actually doing very well. Thanks for asking."

Lauer: "Good. It's nice to have you in the studio and you're giving a speech, again as I said, a little later this afternoon here in New York."

Edwards: "Thanks Matt, thanks for having me."

Lauer: "Thanks Senator."

—Geoffrey Dickens is the senior news analyst at the Media Research Center.

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"Why did the Democrats c

"Why did the Democrats cave?"  That is a question a Democrat constituent would ask a Democrat office holder...Oh, yeah...I forgot...Lauer is a Democrat constituent...for a second, there, I mistook him for a journalist.

Well, it could've been worse.

Well, it could've been worse.. you could've mistook him as an objective journalist.

So how would a "real j

So how would a "real journalist" ask the question? Seems pretty direct to me.

I don't know that the questio

I don't know that the question could be asked any differently. I think what you have here is a disgruntled operative of the DNC's propaganda wing asking the question. That's the humor of it.

On hitting Edwards from the left

I agree with Balboa (never thought I'd say that), I don't see the problem with this one. I don't mind if our politicians are thrown hardballs by journalists from the right OR the left, as long as the politicians ARE forced to explain themselves. (I DO have a problem when conservatives or Republicans are thrown hardballs and liberals and Democrats are thrown softballs meant to set up their talking points, which happens all the time.)

The Democrats campaigned HARD for the 2006 elections by portraying the Administration's handling of Iraq as inept and promising that they (the Democrats) could do better if they were given the chance. So they convinced the electorate to give them a chance. Instead, their legislation on the issue reflects the reality that Iraq is a much more difficult problem than the Democratic sound bites from 2003-2006 would have led you to believe. Their watering down their legislation (while it was the responsible thing to do) amounts to their breaking a campaign promise, and implies that they were lying to the American people for all those years about how they could do so much better than the Administration. I think they SHOULD be held accountable for their dishonesty. We don't often have journalists revisiting campaign promises and intimations; I think this is a GOOD idea, and it should happen more.

Certainly Edwards has well-rehearsed speeches to fall back on whenever his liberal statements are challenged by attacks from the right, he's more likely to be shown up as the fraud he is by pointing out the dishonesty of his positions from the liberal side.

So I don't have a problem with attacking Edwards' statements from the left, any more than I'd have a problem with a journalist attacking Administration policy from the right (that would be rather refreshing, actually).

Rover

It's not about the directness

It's not about the directness of the question - which I'm sure you know. 

Nevertheless, try this for how a real journalist would ask the question: "What is the reasoning behind this compromise?"

Calling it a "cave-in" implies an advocacy position on Lauer's part, which, as I said above, is fine for constituents, not for journalists...

An accurate assessment.

An accurate assessment.

"Cave-in" to me sou

"Cave-in" to me sounds like the way a conservative would pose the question, not someone on the same side. Regardless, I don't think you have a good point. :-)

No so.  When the Republicans

No so.  When the Republicans compromised in 1995 it was conservative constituents and editorial commentators who called it "caving in" - journalists called it a "deal" or a "compromise"...

BTW, you asked how the question should be asked by a 'real journalist,' I answered you...any response?

I think your question is fi

I think your question is fine. But I don't see any problem with Lauers's, either.

Edwards says he's been "

Edwards says he's been "lucky in life"? This is a typical liberal view of personal economic success in America. As if success is the result of some cosmic lottery. No mention of education, hard work, etc. No, they believe that economic success is either inherited or is caused by "luck" and those who aren't successful have been unfairly denied their slice of the economic pie by "the lucky few" . Maybe Edwards can separate America into "The Lucky" and "The Luckless". Sheesh...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

I don't believe they really b

I don't believe they really believe that about themselves.  I just think it's one of their socialist elitist tricks.  They got rich because of their own greatness, but for everyone else, it's luck... 

No, I'm sure Edwards was just

No, I'm sure Edwards was just being modest about his success in suing to wealth. But real liberals do believe that there is some kind of unfair conspiracy to make some "rich" and keep the rest "poor".

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

bon chance

He wants to be boss, good luck with that

So, according to Senator Edwa

So, according to Senator Edwards, we should negotiate with terrorists and countries that sponsor terror, but not with the sitting President? Sounds prefectly logical to me!

Roger, you'd think that becau

Roger, you'd think that because many libs view the President as a terrorist - they might negotiate with him...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

More liberal hypocrisy???

More liberal hypocrisy???

Edwards

Wish I could say something meanigngful here.  I just can't get over how pretty his hair is.

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

edwards

This guy is such a lightweight he must have ropes holding him down.

I still don't get how you end a war by walking off the battlefield.  What does this say to your enemy besides we quit, you win?   This could only make things worse down the road.  But the dems seen to be in love with myopia.

That's why I call him Senator

That's why I call him Senator Dust Bunny...

The dogs bark, but the caravan moves on.

- Arabian Proverb

Myopia

I don't know about your opia, but I do think they are being nearsighted. 

 I think after we walk off the battlefield we should apologize for whatever it was we did to raise their ire.  Then we'll all be friends, don' cha think?

I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

"Paraphrasing Obama: Sen

"Paraphrasing Obama: Senator Edwards voted for authorization. Senator Clinton voted for authorization. So on this paramount issue of, issue of paramount importance I had the best judgment.'"

Realy? Or the worst

"I've been all over the world doing humanitarian work."

Such as? Going their and ridiculing the current administration doesn't count.

Gotta go with the:"I've

Gotta go with the:

"I've been all over the world doing humanitarian work."

Now that's just some smelly B.S.

Lauer says: "We are do

Lauer says: "We are doing a bad job there, in terms of stopping sectarian violence".... Thus perpetuating the ongoing theme of Iraq as a "disaster".

Fist of all Matt, "We" dosen't include you. You aren't doing a damn thing to help the people who are doing the job. And our troops ARE doing a good job in a difficult situation, you just won't report it. And why did the dems "cave"? Puleassse! They knew all along that what they were doing wouldn't pass muster with GWB (and the American people) but they did it anyway. Why? because they are spineless, backstabbing, lying pieces of <fill in the blank>!!

"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...

SHITE!

SHITE!

Lauer and Edwards are leftist

Lauer and Edwards are leftist losers.

Period.

Did They Change Their Party Name

"Matt Lauer Hits John Edwards from the Left on Democratic 'Cave-In'"

Ok, maybe I missed something. I remember the Democrats made a big push to be called Democratic, but aren't they still the Democrats? Calling the Dems the Democratic party makes me want to hurl. Words do mean things I think.

At the end of this transcri

At the end of this transcript, Lauer asks Edwards "How's Mrs. Edwards feeling?" When he answered "very well", Lauer should have asked him what effect her condition is going to have on his campaign, at some point might he decide to chuck it.

No, I really wish he had asked him why he thinks it's more important that he become President of the United States than take care of his family. The ego of this man, who thinks he is so indespensible to this country that he is willing to put his wife , who has untreatable cancer, and his children, second to his ambition, is unbelieveable, and I think his decision is disgusting. And please, don't say his wife urged him to stay in the race. She's in denial; she thinks it will all be fine. And she doesn't want to feel guilty by trying to "hold him back." But let me tell you, when she is throwing up from chemo or radiation, or when the kids are wondering why Mommy is crying again, and can't get out of bed for the third day in a row, they are going to need their father 24/7, not for 30 minutes of "quality time" before the next speech.

The self-centeredness and ego of this man is just stunning.

I raised that issue myself wh

I raised that issue myself when it first appeared on NB, the man has no sense of proportion. If it were my wife and I had his kind of money, I'd be traveling, doing things with her and the kids but certainly not a grueling political schedule of on the road campaigning. There are appropriate sacrifices in life, his is not one of them.  It's no wonder he says there are two Americas, his and ours.

“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.” – Marcus Aurelius

There are appropriate sacri

There are appropriate sacrifices in life, his is not one of them.

There is no "his' sacrifice. He is doing what he wants, and his family be damned. His wife is making the sacrifice, and the kids are being sacrificed on the altar of his ambition. IF I were a Democrat, and IF I ever had a thought of voting for him, this would end it for sure. There is no way I could ever vote for someone who put his career ahead of his dying wife. And yes, she is dying. Maybe not today or next week, but her cancer is incurable. She is dying.

mbelt

mbelt  A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do--why he is even thinking of switching to Prell.

Had to get that out--- I agree with you 100%. Not only that, but he is in a financial position to be able to be with his wife. Some of the folks I worked with received a lot of time-off because of management's sympathy to similar situations. But the employee could not stay home every day and help.

Have you noticed Matt Lauer

Have you noticed Matt Lauer always has his legs crossed?

Marvl,Are you suggesting some

Marvl,

Are you suggesting something? Women cross their legs on TV, except Oprah (sometimes), and Bill Clinton crossed his legs (many times) when he was interviewed by Wallace on Fox...Is their a correlation, Marvl. Just say it, come on, say it!

You mean, how he always has h

You mean, how he always has his legs crossed at the knees, instead of his ankle resting above the knee?

"HAV3 TH3 BRIDG3S OF INSANITY B33N CROSS3D AND FOR3V3R R3TRACT3D???."  - Meshuggah, "3ntrapm3nt", from Catch Thirty Thr33 (2005)